FYI: PRL 13xxx means you're on the new Hybrid Network - Thunderbolt General

Originally Posted by Gav508 Tonight I called tech support from Verizon and was surprised to get in touch with a very knowledgeable rep. The Hybrid push is a known issue, but ONLY for certain customers. These customers are in certain areas and are either former Alltel customers or customers that are accessing former Alltels equipment. I to have the 15008 PRL, however my location, New Jersey, I am not affected by the Alltel issue, and even though she said she would send the update to my phone, she stated that it can cause other issues. Since she seemed very knowledgeable about this information, I decided to take her advise and stay clear of this update.
For any of you guys using Alltel towers or equipment, all the info you have read is correct and this pushed update should serve you phone well. Just first verify you are in that Alltel local.
Myself I suffer from loss of internet sometimes moving from one place to another. (home to work). She asked if I frequently get the cannot connect for internet message. I do. She also asked if I get the 1X instead of 3G frequently. I do. She stated that this is a know issue with the Thunderbolt and it can be rectified very easy by doing a full factory reset from settings. Since I was having more issues with the Internet then the phone calls I am going to try this fix. I hate reloading and setting everything back up but I am going to try it anyway.
For anyone thinking of this, this operation puts your phone back to factory release condition. You will lose all contacts and data info. Make sure your contacts, calendar and misc info is backed up first. If you have a Google Account everything is and will reappear after you re sign back in.
Update from the OP: I said 13xxx, but this number could be different for your area. I honestly have no way of telling how many different PRL's there are or which number would say that would definitely tell you that you're on the Hybrid network(If there is one in your area.) I just know my results and that my PRL number changed.
On a quest to figure out why my phone had 3-4 bars of network signal, while my wife's phone had 0-1 bars even when they were next to each, I found this out in the process. If you're on PRL 15008, your phone is connected to the old Verizon Nationwide network. While if your phone shows PRL 13xxx, then your phone is connected to the New Hybrid network. I was on 13004, while she was on 15008. If your PRL shows 15008, I highly recommend you call Verizon and have them upgrade you to the Hybrid network, as this GREATLY increased my wife's signal and fixed her voice calls reception. (Not sure if this does anything for data. She always had good 3G and we're not in a 4G area.) They will push the update to your phone and have you leave it on for a few hours. Afterwards, I pulled the sim card and battery out for 30 seconds, replaced them and let the phone boot up. After 10-20 minutes, the radio will locate the nearest tower and my wife's phone auto updated its PRL number from 15008 to 13006. She now has a constant 3-4 bar signal and her time without a signal is significantly lower. (Same as mine.) Also, if you're rooted, make sure you know the correct stock firmware/radio version as they will probably ask you for this info.
P.S. I would only do this if you're having voice(not data) signal problems like my wife phone was. My wife phone shows 13006 and mine shows 13004, so PRL's can be different numbers for your area. So again, this may help some people and this may do nothing for others. If you already have a great signal, I would leave well enough alone.

How does one find out if they are on PRL 15008?

ApplCobbler said:
How does one find out if they are on PRL 15008?
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Menu>Settings>About phone>software information.

you wouldn't happen to have the radio imformation etc that you need when calling verizon do you? i might just call them tomorrow morning and see what they say if I get the correct info.

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you wouldn't happen to have the radio imformation etc that you need when calling verizon do you? i might just call them tomorrow morning and see what they say if I get the correct info.
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Mine is 1.12.605.6 software/1.16.00.0223 baseband. Not rooted.

Mine reads PRL Version 14001. Would you recomend i call verizon?!
Thanks for this tip, I have not heard it before. Would be sweet if it helped my service!

livestrong2012 said:
Mine reads PRL Version 14001. Would you recomend i call verizon?!
Thanks for this tip, I have not heard it before. Would be sweet if it helped my service!
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yeah, I have 14001 too. Are you on a legacy Alltel plan?

I am on 1508 and in a 4G area. I don't know about the hybrid network or what not but I know that coming from Tmobile, I have great voice reception.
Just today I started to get 4G at my apartment. The coverage map always showed me in a strong 4G area but I was only getting 3g until today.

That is my first time hearing about 14xxx. But it could be the correct PRL for your area. Wouldn't hurt to call and find out. Also, have the regular Verizon plan. Not sure what the legacy Alltel plan is, as I never had Alltel service. I'm located in Central Florida btw.

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yeah, I have 14001 too. Are you on a legacy Alltel plan?
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I sure am, didn't think about that, goo call man! Would it screw things up to change over to hybrid? for example i still have unlimited messaging and internet for like 15-20 bucks a month way back from my alltel haha and would HATE to screw that up.

I'm on 15008 in Houston my phone is set it LTE mode (no switching to 3G) and I almost always have full bars and can get D/L speeds 20-30 easily.

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I'm on 15008 in Houston my phone is set it LTE mode (no switching to 3G) and I almost always have full bars and can get D/L speeds 20-30 easily.
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Damn you lucky bastard... lol

my_handle said:
I'm on 15008 in Houston my phone is set it LTE mode (no switching to 3G) and I almost always have full bars and can get D/L speeds 20-30 easily.
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see I live in cincinnati and was getting those speeds pre rooting, now I don't get close to those speeds. I am going to call verizon tomorrow and ask about these PRL business and see what I can make happen.

nosympathy said:
see I live in cincinnati and was getting those speeds pre rooting, now I don't get close to those speeds. I am going to call verizon tomorrow and ask about these PRL business and see what I can make happen.
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Have you downloaded the 4g fixes for the VirusRom?! I hear they will bring your speeds right back up to par! I am not in a 4g area therefor i can not confirm but a lot of other users have said after they downloaded the fix everything was back to normal!
Just thought i might see if that helps. Good luck!

I called Verizon and even got tier 2 tech support...they said they have NO upgrade for PRI......he told me to pull the batter..then the SIM card......and see if it helps....I still have 15008 PRI. The tech informed me that it depends what part of the city you are in. Maybe your wife got the wrong tower when you activated the phone and she got the 13000 when you pulled the card. Do not think there is an upgrade for this.
That is why everyone has a different PRI

livestrong2012 said:
Have you downloaded the 4g fixes for the VirusRom?! I hear they will bring your speeds right back up to par! I am not in a 4g area therefor i can not confirm but a lot of other users have said after they downloaded the fix everything was back to normal!
Just thought i might see if that helps. Good luck!
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I have just been lazy and haven't fixed my signiture, I am running the Das BAMF rom. Although my 4G sucks on every rom. It cuts in and out, and so forth. Unroot my phone, instant 20-30 down speeds every time.

So what does it mean when my PRL is 1?
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So what does it mean when my PRL is 1?
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I dk, but my phone was on 15008 and i started messing around with 3G and I am now on PRL 1 myself lol.

+1 Houston/Sugar Land with full 4G

Does the PRI change if you flash a new rom?
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TMo: web and talk simultaneously?

Can you browse and talk simultaneously with the myTouch 4G?
In strong 3G and 4G environments, I'm unable to browse the web and talk simultaneously on my MT4G.
This was never a problem on my G1 in 3G settings, oddly enough.
Should I be able to browse and talk at the same time on the MT4G when I have a good 3G or 4G connection?
Has anyone noticed this problem? Any fixes available?
I'm running Ice Glacier 1.1.6.
UPDATE: This dual use is working at the moment. Perhaps I've been in Edge networks or weak 3G for previous attempts.
thepza said:
Can you browse and talk simultaneously with the myTouch 4G?
In strong 3G and 4G environments, I'm unable to browse the web and talk simultaneously on my MT4G.
This was never a problem on my G1 in 3G settings, oddly enough.
Should I be able to browse and talk at the same time on the MT4G when I have a good 3G or 4G connection?
Has anyone noticed this problem? Any fixes available?
I'm running Ice Glacier 1.1.6.
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ANY GSM phone connect to 3G+ connections should be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time.
I have noticed the same issue... hmm was thinking it was a issue with my settings. May have to look into it.
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I've personally had mixed results with this... sometimes (in E, 3G and H) i can talk and browse at the same time, sometimes no dice, but anytime I am using the stock Wi-Fi Hotspot all my calls come through and it never breaks my tether.
anyone have any update on this? I can't find anything to fix it.
I recently bumped an old thread from early dec abbot the same issue. It seems many ppl are having the same problem. I too am having mixed results. I will have 3g fine when not in a call, but once I'm in a call, data along with mms function gets killed. However, a few times I moved closer to a window and I would get the 3g icon back. So I can only chalk it up to reception. it seems being on a call somehow effects 3g reception. I don't have a technical explanation for that though.
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I had this issue back in late 2009, using a G1 then. TMO was only giving the Orlando area about 800 kbps down, but voice + data should still work. My actual 3g icon would vanish as soon as I got on a call.
TMO opened a ticket to have a field tech check towers, but I never heard anything back.
A coupla weeks later, Orlando had an outage. I went into a TMO store to see what was up and to gripe about the outage. We were given two, free CliqXTs. Shhhh, I said they were GIVEN to us. (and I will stick with HTC devices from here on out.)
Well, same issue. We then put in the NEW SIM, as opposed to using the one I got with my G1 in 2008, voila! My fiancee had the same issue. Swapped her old SIM, voila!
So for me, it was an issue with how the old SIM worked on the network (or didn't work).
Nonetheless, on a GSM network, concurrent voice/data should be possible, so if it's not a matter of just poor coverage in your area, I would go to a TMO store and/or call customer care.
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It works for me, even when I use it as a wifi hotspot at Starbucks (Because it's better than their free wifi . I'm able to call and txt and browse the net and receive calls while I am browsing on the laptop. It's very nice IMO
It's weird because it didn't work for me on the stock ROM but it works fine on CM7.
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Do you still have a backup of your stock ROM before you went to CM7? If it's "something inside the ROM," then it should be an easy test.
Since the hardware obviously didn't change, it almost sounds like a APN or Mobile Network settings issue. Can you compare your stock to CM7 and see if there's any difference?
Sometimes if you're on a voice call for a while, you'll drop down to 2G. When that happens, your ability to do simultaneous voice and data goes away. If you're mobile data indicator goes away while on a call then this is what's going on. You can verify under the the "Network" part of the "About Phone" screen.
You can mitigate this somewhat by setting your phone to 3G only mode but this can cause it's own set of issues. If your phone wants to move to 2G because of signal quality issues but can't because you have it set to 3G only mode, your call might end up dropping altogether.
shlongwoodian said:
I had this issue back in late 2009, using a G1 then. TMO was only giving the Orlando area about 800 kbps down, but voice + data should still work. My actual 3g icon would vanish as soon as I got on a call.
TMO opened a ticket to have a field tech check towers, but I never heard anything back.
A coupla weeks later, Orlando had an outage. I went into a TMO store to see what was up and to gripe about the outage. We were given two, free CliqXTs. Shhhh, I said they were GIVEN to us. (and I will stick with HTC devices from here on out.)
Well, same issue. We then put in the NEW SIM, as opposed to using the one I got with my G1 in 2008, voila! My fiancee had the same issue. Swapped her old SIM, voila!
So for me, it was an issue with how the old SIM worked on the network (or didn't work).
Nonetheless, on a GSM network, concurrent voice/data should be possible, so if it's not a matter of just poor coverage in your area, I would go to a TMO store and/or call customer care.
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So new sim cards solved your issues? Did your data speed/coverage improve at all?
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@Phate - In that particular incident, yes, the new SIM resolved my issue. I had the issue on my G1 and then TMO gave us two free CliqXTs to retain us. We used the same SIMs from our G1s and the issue persisted. I called back in to TMO and they recommended using the new SIMs, as they said they'd seen issues with certain "older" ones.
From that point on, we could browse and talk. Prior to that, you'd see the 3G icon vanish while you were on a call. As soon as you ended the call, the 3G icon would come back.
Our speed then was around 800 kbps down, which isn't blazing fast but it's definitely more than EDGE. Once we got the new SIMs, the speed was still at 800 kbps down in the general Downtown Orlando area (keep in mind, this is early 2010). Over the next few months, the speeds got better and better and then we ultimately ditched our CliqXTs when the Glacier became available.
So in my case, Phate, the SIM resolved our simultaneous voice/data - it did not increase our speed, not explicitly.
Hope this helps!
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@Phate - In that particular incident, yes, the new SIM resolved my issue. I had the issue on my G1 and then TMO gave us two free CliqXTs to retain us. We used the same SIMs from our G1s and the issue persisted. I called back in to TMO and they recommended using the new SIMs, as they said they'd seen issues with certain "older" ones.
From that point on, we could browse and talk. Prior to that, you'd see the 3G icon vanish while you were on a call. As soon as you ended the call, the 3G icon would come back.
Our speed then was around 800 kbps down, which isn't blazing fast but it's definitely more than EDGE. Once we got the new SIMs, the speed was still at 800 kbps down in the general Downtown Orlando area (keep in mind, this is early 2010). Over the next few months, the speeds got better and better and then we ultimately ditched our CliqXTs when the Glacier became available.
So in my case, Phate, the SIM resolved our simultaneous voice/data - it did not increase our speed, not explicitly.
Hope this helps!
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It does help, thanks. I've been using the same sim since my Samsung e315 flip phone.
Maybe it's time for a new one, lol.
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@ Phateless, Did you happen to try a new sim? did it help anything?
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@ Phateless, Did you happen to try a new sim? did it help anything?
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Nah, service hasn't been bad, was just curious if it would get better. Never followed up on it.
I tried everything I could think of then broke down and went to the store today. The guy restarted the phone insisting that would fix it. Even when I told him I do it all the time. Thats when he blamed it on the custom rom due to the boot animation I have on it. I reassured him that its still the same rom, so he wanted to wipe it. Told him I tried it and no go. I had already told him I just wanted a new sim and he refused to even look at it. So at this point I asked for the manager. First they I told the manager was I could not get data and voice at the same time and I wanted a new sim. He popped the sim card and said it was only a 3g sim (kinda odd cause its a sim from a wing and could get H.)
Long store short he gave me a new sim and it works fine. So make sure you don't let anyone know you have a rooted phone... the idiots like to think thats the reason for all the problems.
With all due respect I wouldn't even walk into a T-mobile store with a rooted phone.
At the bare minimum I would nandroid back to stock rooted rom before going in.
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I never had that problem back in the day with my g1
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yeah I know... I kinda was just hopping he would look at the sim. Even before he rebooted and found it was rooted he insisted it was something else. Its all good phone works great now!

[Q] Sick and tired of Sprint's HORRIBLE 3G service in my area...can I get some help?

I get on average 26kbps down. I also frequently drop down to 1X. Simply awful. I know it isn't a coverage thing. Sprint's map for 3G says the whole city and then some are covered. I call BS. This will be my third Sprint phone with the same issues. I've called Customer Service but they say they can't do anything unless more people complain.
Could someone help me with modifying a PRL to get better service in my area? There is no 4G where I live so using some Verizon towers wouldn't matter much. I already know how to flash a different PRL but I don't know how to read one or modify one.
If I hadn't just bought my Shift I'd be ditching Sprint for someone else. ANYONE else.
I feel your pain can't beat the price though.
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benutne said:
I get on average 26kbps down. I also frequently drop down to 1X. Simply awful. I know it isn't a coverage thing. Sprint's map for 3G says the whole city and then some are covered. I call BS. This will be my third Sprint phone with the same issues. I've called Customer Service but they say they can't do anything unless more people complain.
Could someone help me with modifying a PRL to get better service in my area? There is no 4G where I live so using some Verizon towers wouldn't matter much. I already know how to flash a different PRL but I don't know how to read one or modify one.
If I hadn't just bought my Shift I'd be ditching Sprint for someone else. ANYONE else.
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Well if you haven't already, you can try THIS THREAD. that mod helped me quite a bit.
prboy1969 said:
Well if you haven't already, you can try THIS THREAD. that mod helped me quite a bit.
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Thanks. Didn't know about that thread. I'll give it a shot here in a minute and let you know if it works.
benutne said:
Thanks. Didn't know about that thread. I'll give it a shot here in a minute and let you know if it works.
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Nope. Didn't make the least bit of difference. Download is still around 24(ish) kbps. I didn't mention it before but my upload is 10x my download at around 250kbps.
What Rom are you using? Well you can always call Sprint and complain. Explain to them how bad your Data services are. I've heard of them on more than one occasion, offering a free Airwave to customers with bad Data services. It may take more than one call. But if you get it for free it will be worth it.
I was having all types of connection issues. I formated my sd card. With ext4 at 1gb and swap at 256, then installed cyanogenmod nightly 243, boot install gapps new one, boot installed sparkies script and v10 kernal. And settled in. I am getting 6 times faster everything on a 8gig class 4. Did it to the wifes too but did 2gig ext4 cause she has a butt ton of apps. It made her give up miui. Well kinda lol she wanted that 3.1 miui launcher. But anyway. Do this it should boost your bandwidth. I sure as hell did mine. I am getting 2Mb on 3g now up to 7 or 8 on 4g and 15 on wifi.
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Btw forgot to mention use TWRP recovery! Wipe all system too. It is a great tool
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benutne said:
I get on average 26kbps down. I also frequently drop down to 1X. Simply awful. I know it isn't a coverage thing. Sprint's map for 3G says the whole city and then some are covered. I call BS. This will be my third Sprint phone with the same issues. I've called Customer Service but they say they can't do anything unless more people complain.
Could someone help me with modifying a PRL to get better service in my area? There is no 4G where I live so using some Verizon towers wouldn't matter much. I already know how to flash a different PRL but I don't know how to read one or modify one.
If I hadn't just bought my Shift I'd be ditching Sprint for someone else. ANYONE else.
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There is a thread in the Evo 3d forum here on xda that has the phone # for Sprints retention dept. If you call that number and explain that your cell and data signal sucks and you drop 2 out of 3 calls they should send you a Air Rave for no charge and won't charge you for the service. If I get time to nite and can find it I will post the link.
Edit: Here is the number for retention (877)775-4886 Hope you get some satisfaction I know it worked for me.
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Almost makes me wish I had Crappy 3G in my area. Almost , but not really . Already been there done that and it was not a good time .
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Was just reminded of something reading a post by sparksco. What radios are you using? Have you updated them?
halrulez said:
I was having all types of connection issues. I formated my sd card. With ext4 at 1gb and swap at 256, then installed cyanogenmod nightly 243, boot install gapps new one, boot installed sparkies script and v10 kernal. And settled in. I am getting 6 times faster everything on a 8gig class 4. Did it to the wifes too but did 2gig ext4 cause she has a butt ton of apps. It made her give up miui. Well kinda lol she wanted that 3.1 miui launcher. But anyway. Do this it should boost your bandwidth. I sure as hell did mine. I am getting 2Mb on 3g now up to 7 or 8 on 4g and 15 on wifi.
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I think your right that the kernel does make a huge difference as well as the patch. If your phone is using all of your memory/ram then data connection has a hard time keeping up. Pershoot makes really good kernels...
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I have fair 3g speeds but 4G coverage (which is why I went with sprint and the shift) in Atlanta is really spotty in the metro area. When you are any cell store the strength and speeds will be great to get you to buy in my opinion. You don't get to see how it will be in daily use until the contract and sale are complete
I can see downtown Atlanta from my condo but yet I get no 4G and fair 3G speeds. That's how it is all over Atlanta. I understand the frustration especially if you are paying the $10 4G fee. I went to ask about the coverage and speeds. I told the rep I was upset at paying a $10 extra fee for 4G when it is so spotty and slow. Apparently the $10 fee is not for 4G, insert bs excuse here ! While I can't be of any help to your speed issues I want to say that even where I live it's a problem. Most of the time I keep my phone connected to my wireless router and then in areas where free wireless is offered I connect to it running an SSH tunnel app to my router at home.
Ok, I'm still getting ****ty data service and I've tried almost everything I know how to do. Does anyone.know how to modify a PRL so I can force a connection to some Verizon towers? Obviously I still want to use Sprint for calls since I rarely have issues with that but the 3G is completely unbearable
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benutne said:
Ok, I'm still getting ****ty data service and I've tried almost everything I know how to do. Does anyone.know how to modify a PRL so I can force a connection to some Verizon towers? Obviously I still want to use Sprint for calls since I rarely have issues with that but the 3G is completely unbearable
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Try THIS THREAD for what you need. Specifically THIS post.
when i updated the radio and wimax radio on my shift i did notice a little stronger signal in general. but in my experience especially in fringe areas, MOD MOD MOD MOD MOD then TRY TRY TRY TRY then AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN several PRL variations. i think in general the 00001.prl everyone agrees is a good one to start on. just make sure your phone is set with NO restrictions concerning data roaming. half the time at least half the time im not even on sprints network, lol. if i call customer service i usually get verizon, but i have got alltel and USCC before lol. heh, in the gulf of mexico it shows up as something like 'national calling system' or something lol.
i never noticed the thread recommended above, so i will trying that in approx. 47 secs lol! so thankd for pointing that out.
but always, when i doubt, keep adding towers.....
cheers,
disco
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Try THIS THREAD for what you need. Specifically THIS post.
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Well, after using the 00001 (or whatever) PRL that is 100% Verizon, my speeds have increased dramatically. Its like getting a new phone. I don't plan on using that long term as Sprint can get uppity about it but I'll try it for a while and then see if I can settle on some sort of hybrid approach or even that corporate PRL you linked to.
Thanks for the help. I'm a happy EVO Shift owner again.
No problem . Here to help .
Ok then. I switched to the Sprint corporate PRL. Went from full bars at home to two. I'll try it out for a bit and see if it sucks less than the normal Sprint PRL. Verizon is looking better and better even with the data caps.
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Till you see your bill . Know a few Sprint people who switched to Verizon recently, about three months ago. They're crying big time . Both switched because they " get better reception " . But the Bill is crazy . One has had about $100 in overages . The other has great reception, but two weeks in he's already over his 2GB cap . No thanks to all that .
i have sprint but i put this prl on my phone and for last few days both data and voice have been better than 0001.prl, i'm in new orleans so i do not know bout other parts of country but i thought it worth posting.
cheers,
disco

[Q] Reception Problems

okay guys so I just switched over from the Galaxy S to the S2, Skyrocket LTE
I had full reception at my house with the Captivate....Now, with the skyrocket I still have full reception....but with a catch
I'll have full service...then all of the sudden it will drop to 1 bar and be unable to send any texts. (Message not sent error). Then, like 45 seconds later it will turn back up to 5 bars and ill get texts.
the time that its off and on seems to be consistently repeating and switching back and forth between 45 second intervals. Also, sometimes ill get all my texts together (9 unread) out of nowhere with time stamps from 5-12 minutes ago.
I'm running STOCK everything:
Android version 2.3.5
Baseband: I727UCKJ2
Kernel version: 2.6.35.11
I wanna root my phone but I wanna make suree there isnt a problem with it.
I think its also important to note that this problem is ONLY in my house and around my house. not anywhere else.
Any ideas on what could be causing this, or any solutions? anyone else have the same problem?
I'd recommend reporting your thread via the upper right link to have this moved, you got it posted in the wrong phone section. I'd try to take a stab at helping ya but honestly it would just be a guess...
Thread moved from AT&T Galaxy S II forums to the Skyrocket Q&A forum...
anyone have any idea?
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There have been some problems reported on the LTE network, but the biggest problem was/is.. people not being able to make calls when the network mode was set to lte auto. Depending on where you are, you might want to check the coverage map for your location... and call your carrier.
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There have been some problems reported on the LTE network, but the biggest problem was/is.. people not being able to make calls when the network mode was set to lte auto. Depending on where you are, you might want to check the coverage map for your location... and call your carrier.
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Thank you, do you have any links regarding the problems reported? I'm in LA, I dont think we have LTE here yet. Also the problems seem to happen only at my house, not even like 1 block down. I know I had full coverage here with no problems on my Captivate. It's just this phone, reception drops to 1 bar, then 5 .... like every 10 seconds, keeps going up and down, I gotta time when to send my texts so they go through lol.
I want to say lte is in testing for la. That could definitely cause issues if they are messing with the towers. The same thing happened to me while we were in Vegas...a few days later everything worked ...including LTE which Vegas previously did not have. Its also worth checking to make sure ATT has u on an LTE plan. Its been documented that if they have not done that it can cause some issues
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Thank you, do you have any links regarding the problems reported? I'm in LA, I dont think we have LTE here yet. Also the problems seem to happen only at my house, not even like 1 block down. I know I had full coverage here with no problems on my Captivate. It's just this phone, reception drops to 1 bar, then 5 .... like every 10 seconds, keeps going up and down, I gotta time when to send my texts so they go through lol.
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the captivate is not a 4g or Lte phone...the phone is not trying to switch between 3g to 4g...i think thats the problem with your SII..trying to change from H+ to Lte without succes in an area doesnt have Lte
The only links that I have seen, are for rogers here in Canada.. don't know if that would be of any help to you? While my signal strength is all over the map, I have never had any problems making or receiving calls.
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00mred00 said:
Its also worth checking to make sure ATT has u on an LTE plan. Its been documented that if they have not done that it can cause some issues
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I went ahead and called. It seems the problem is, as everyone suspected, the phone trying to switch from H+ to LTE. the 4G logo seems to change from 4G to 4G (LTE) when it drops reception. Will rooting / roming help stop this? Are there any ways of turning off LTE until they get it fully working?
With regards to the quote above, I currently have Unlimited Data since i got grandfathered in. The guy at the ATT store told me I dont have to change my data plan and I'll keep my unlimited (so i did that). He gave me a new sim which he said "will help give you better reception". Will I still have issues because i dont have the new data plans? I want to keep my unlimited data.
**EDIT**
Just checked on ATTs website and I have "LTE UNL SMT VVMT" data plan.
Thanks in advance for all the feedback guys!
Also, I think its important to note that even if I connect to WiFi, the problem is still there, reception drops and goes up consistently. I've missed countless phone calls and have had to resend a vast amount of texts. I get all my texts together every 4-6 minutes. PLEASE help =/
Did you ever get this resolved. I have the same problem at my house, calls drop frequently and data seems to be not available at times.
Y did u resurrect this thread lol, a new post might have been better. None the less, try the telus KJ3 radio if u don't have LTE in your area, it has really good voice quality, and consistent data rates. If u do have LTE use the new UCLA3 one

[Q] Constant Loss of Signal (Sprint)

Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
TempeDuck said:
Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
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I don't "think" I've had LOS... but if I notice it over the next couple days I'll let you know.
jell3d said:
I don't "think" I've had LOS... but if I notice it over the next couple days I'll let you know.
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Sweet, thanks
Yes, I was just about to create a thread asking the same thing. The signal icon turns to an empty triangle randomly for no more than a minute. It's been happening all day =/
The phone is locked and 3G is working. Not sure about LTE just yet.
Edit: Here's a pic (lasted ~30 seconds)
http://i.imgur.com/mS4EUgd.jpg
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I think it's because the N5 just has terrible reception in general. I get 1 LTE bar in areas where my Moto X used to get full LTE bars.
KiNG OMaR said:
I think it's because the N5 just has terrible reception in general. I get 1 LTE bar in areas where my Moto X used to get full LTE bars.
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I'm not sure because it'll drop when I have full bar 3G.
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Cheater912 said:
I'm not sure because it'll drop when I have full bar 3G.
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I have experienced random signal drops, even when I have full bars. It might only happen when it's switching between LTE/HSPA, but I haven't really payed attention.
Sprint is doing a lot of backend tweaking to support the Nexus 5s. Lots of performance changes hour by hour as they try and set up the network to allow unlocked Nexus phones.
First time allowing a phone on their network that's not sold them so these are all part of the growing pains. Just keep giving Sprint productive feedback so they can iron out the issues.
I went to the online chat and the guy apparently "refreshed the network and fixed the glitch." I thought he was full of ****, but I haven't lost bars yet ^.^
Edit: never mind, he was full of ****...
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Cheater912 said:
I went to the online chat and the guy apparently "refreshed the network and fixed the glitch." I thought he was full of ****, but I haven't lost bars yet ^.^
Edit: never mind, he was full of ****...
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I have been having the same problem at work and I can trace it to switching between network types. LTE to 3G to 1x. At home I'm good to go. I think it may be because Sprint installed a micro cell in our building and it's not LTE compatible.
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Might just be a not so great radio software/firmware at the moment. Most likely future updates will make it better. Now, that doesn't help you in the interim but that's most likely it.
my worst fear.. LG's are notorious for dropping signal. I know this because my old LG Optimus G did it, and many others had this problem as well. You can google or look at my old posts.
I ran a Network Signal Pro log last night and it was a constant signal/no signal. Not sure if it was just voice or voice and date. I have attached it, if someone who knows how to read that better than me could look at it that would be great. I'm running another log right now, will be 60 minutes with a 30 poling rate. I'll post that later. The signal is pretty weak since I am in a hangar at an airport. So we will see how it is.
TempeDuck said:
Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
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I'm having this issue -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516543
I thought it was a bad sim/the fact that sprint doesn't even recognize the device. I plan on waiting until the 8th to take any action personally.
lilotimz said:
Sprint is doing a lot of backend tweaking to support the Nexus 5s. Lots of performance changes hour by hour as they try and set up the network to allow unlocked Nexus phones.
First time allowing a phone on their network that's not sold them so these are all part of the growing pains. Just keep giving Sprint productive feedback so they can iron out the issues.
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Why should any "tweaking' be required? GSM networks have let on all phones for years. It would seem that once Sprint allows a phone on the network, it should be in the same position as a GSM network with respect to phones that it did not sell.
Also OP, do you mind providing your general location?
Here is the next log. Never lost a connection.
The only difference I see here is EVDO A at work vs EHRPD at home. Wonder if that is part of the issue?
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Also OP, do you mind providing your general location?
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Home is near 48th St and Elliot Rd in Phoenix and work is at Sky Harbor Airport.
TempeDuck said:
Here is the next log. Never lost a connection.
The only difference I see here is EVDO A at work vs EHRPD at home. Wonder if that is part of the issue?
Home is near 48th St and Elliot Rd in Phoenix and work is at Sky Harbor Airport.
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Ah - other side of the country. Didn't see you had it in your profile as well, my bad.
Other side of the country which makes me nervous that it's not a sprint issue - I'm in Detroit near campus martius and still having similar issues.
it isn't only Sprint, it happens in Rogers and Fido in Canada as well. So I believe it is LG
dicecuber said:
it isn't only Sprint, it happens in Rogers and Fido in Canada as well. So I believe it is LG
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I feel it may be a sprint issue only due to it constantly losing connection of EHRPD but it being fine now that I on on EVDO A at work. It is the same radio and antenna for EHRPD and EVDO A, right?
I'm going to Salt Lake City this weekend, I'll have to see how it preforms there.

[Q] LTE not working

Hi, I just got my S5 today and have been having quite a few problems. First one was that Best Buy forgot a step: activating my device... They're so incompetent... lol
So anyway, after multiple talk with Sprint I now have everything working but LTE. My S3 could pick up the LTE network when I was home this morning, but my S5 can't seem to ever connect to LTE. Of course I went to check the settings and the option CDMA/LTE is selected.
Anyone has any suggestion?
Thanks,
- Cascius
Not sure what's going on but my S4 signal was 10x's better... My daughter now uses it and she has full lte service and I'm barely picking up 3G... Contacted sprint and they are telling me to bring it in for possibly a defective antenna...
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cascius said:
Hi, I just got my S5 today and have been having quite a few problems. First one was that Best Buy forgot a step: activating my device... They're so incompetent... lol
So anyway, after multiple talk with Sprint I now have everything working but LTE. My S3 could pick up the LTE network when I was home this morning, but my S5 can't seem to ever connect to LTE. Of course I went to check the settings and the option CDMA/LTE is selected.
Anyone has any suggestion?
Thanks,
- Cascius
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Hmmm... I'm connecting just fine. If you're having trouble with LTE in an area you know had it, try update PRL/Profile firstly. See if thatfoxes. If not, I would highly recommend just Factory Wipe and Wipe Cache since still early before development goes underway. Easy to reset up. I did and seemed to clear up any and all my issues at first.
I have not been able to connect to LTE either. After a reboot, it says LTE but then the antenna turns off and comes back on in 3G. If I go into the Sprint Zone app and try to test the 4G, it tells me to turn it on in the settings and never does a test. My wife's current S3 has no problem with LTE and the Sprint Zone test of 4G seems to work. I plan on going to a local store today and see about the problem.
I tried a data reset, cache wipe, PRL/profile update and no improvements.
It's a network issue with your area. This was a big problem for me when the nexus 5 came out. It's because of the new tri-band devices and sprints network not being updated. There is a a big article about it on s4gru. Trust me it's not your phone. That's why it connects to Lte for a split second and then goes to 3g. U just have to wait for sprint to update the towers in your area
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Refer here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712240
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I am having the same issue of not connecting to LTE. I bought the phone yesterday. I am in the Atlanta area if that matters. I am very pissed BC I sold my S4 back to Best buy so now I'm stuck with an S5 that cannot connect to LTE.
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Same thing here in San Francisco, but my gs4 was having connection issues too, not cool, I will try a factory reset later to see if that has any effect, but if it is a tower issue then that won't fix it, not cool
evilbeef54 said:
Same thing here in San Francisco, but my gs4 was having connection issues too, not cool, I will try a factory reset later to see if that has any effect, but if it is a tower issue then that won't fix it, not cool
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Whats weird is that I can update PRL and LTE will pop up and stay connected anywhere from a few seconds to minutes.
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unrooted, factory restore, updated everything...
no luck
i can cycle airplane mode on and off and LTE will be up a few seconds then goes away again, so yeah sounds like definitely a sprint issue, not cool
evilbeef54 said:
unrooted, factory restore, updated everything...
no luck
i can cycle airplane mode on and off and LTE will be up a few seconds then goes away again, so yeah sounds like definitely a sprint issue, not cool
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i would go to a sprint store and try their floor model
if that doesn't work, its an issue with the network in your area
this article explains the hiccups being caused with LTE with spark updates
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5001-breaking-band-tri-band-lte-ecsfb-issues-thread/
eyecon82 said:
i would go to a sprint store and try their floor model
if that doesn't work, its an issue with the network in your area
this article explains the hiccups being caused with LTE with spark updates
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5001-breaking-band-tri-band-lte-ecsfb-issues-thread/
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Just checked out the floor model in the Sprint store.... same thing I cycled airplane mode it saw 4g then lost it, do yeah I guess we just have to sit and wait, surprising that I'm in the San Fran bay area and can't get 4g. Any details on when this will be fixed?
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Just checked out the floor model in the Sprint store.... same thing I cycled airplane mode it saw 4g then lost it, do yeah I guess we just have to sit and wait, surprising that I'm in the San Fran bay area and can't get 4g. Any details on when this will be fixed?
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no clue
at least you know its not your phone, and rather it is a network issue
Alright here's an update on my end: I get LTE in some areas, but not others (even though my S3 did)
- San Francisco: No luck in any neighborhood i tried... (PS I live in SF so this really isn't good)
- Napa (and highway 80 on the way there): LTE signal most of the way. (only 2-3 bars most of the time, but still, LTE!)
- Mountain View (where i work): LTE with full bars.
My take so far: the problem doesn't come from our phones but rather from the status of those towers. The fact that Napa's network would be better than SF is extremely surprising and disappointing to me to say the least.
Now here are a couple questions:
On my S3, doing update PRL or Profile would have a confirmation/successful popup. On the S5, it just shows a quick "Initializing application" and nothing happens. Are you guys also having the same issue?
Anyway, those are my findings so far. I've been a loyal Sprint customer since 1999, and at this point I might return the phone and cancel my contract in favor for Tmobile or ATT...
Oh well...
cascius said:
Alright here's an update on my end: I get LTE in some areas, but not others (even though my S3 did)
- San Francisco: No luck in any neighborhood i tried... (PS I live in SF so this really isn't good)
- Napa (and highway 80 on the way there): LTE signal most of the way. (only 2-3 bars most of the time, but still, LTE!)
- Mountain View (where i work): LTE with full bars.
My take so far: the problem doesn't come from our phones but rather from the status of those towers. The fact that Napa's network would be better than SF is extremely surprising and disappointing to me to say the least.
Now here are a couple questions:
On my S3, doing update PRL or Profile would have a confirmation/successful popup. On the S5, it just shows a quick "Initializing application" and nothing happens. Are you guys also having the same issue?
Anyway, those are my findings so far. I've been a loyal Sprint customer since 1999, and at this point I might return the phone and cancel my contract in favor for Tmobile or ATT...
Oh well...
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yeah i am getting really upset with sprint too, been with them since 2001, i like my plan, but i have the same results as you in the same areas, no luck in San Fran, oakland, or dublin, tempted to go to verizon but i dunno, i like the unlimited data... but if i am gonna be stuck in 3G then there is no use
and the prl update should still have the conformation screen, i get it on mine
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yeah i am getting really upset with sprint too, been with them since 2001, i like my plan, but i have the same results as you in the same areas, no luck in San Fran, oakland, or dublin, tempted to go to verizon but i dunno, i like the unlimited data... but if i am gonna be stuck in 3G then there is no use
and the prl update should still have the conformation screen, i get it on mine
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Oooooh, thanks for the PRL information. I think a recovery is indeed needed. I also forgot to mention that I keep getting a notification that there is a software update. When I click nothing happens... Then i go to settings, system update, and i get a message saying I'm up to date... Pfff... LOL
Regarding switching to Verizon: don't! With work I had an iPhone 5 on Verizon and it was actually worse than Sprint. (At least in the Bay Area)
We now have upgraded to iPhone 5S on ATT and it's definitely better. I've read that TMobile is pretty good too, but have no experience of my own.
Anyway, on a positive note: my S5 is much more responsive than my S3 and the screen brightness is awesome! I was just outside in the sun and could read emails with no problems. The camera is also a nice upgrade as the S3's camera was horrible. Aside from that it really feels like a nice incremental upgrade, but nothing more.
I'll post an update tonight after recovering etc...
- Cascius
Ok, I have been in Oakland for a few hours now, 3g the whole time, I cycled airplane mode, and now am on LTE for the last 10 min, so it seems like it isn't trying to search for lte after the initial time?
I have the same situation here. LTE only stays for a few minutes and then goes to sleep until it decides to wake up (whenever it feels like). I don't think speaking to Sprint will solve anything. It will be a while before we can see Spark in action, I think.
The problems lie with Sprint Spark. My S4 & Note 3 have great reception. All spark devices i activate barely get 1 bar. Its horrible. But its because of the bands they have the devices default on. They are trying to take less strain off of the current LTE single band and equal it out to all 3. Or just the 2 depending on your location.
This isn't a phone issue, rather a Network issue
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