At one point in sales Google pulled the Nexus One from the website and stopped selling it all together and the word rare came into play. Do you think Best Buy/Samsung will do the same? Why or Why not?
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Of Course!
think about it, they need to do it for business like any other product, and to launch the next Nexus 3, or whatever they are going to call it
it might be from Moto, or Acer, or Dell, or LG... we'll see who wins the bit for it later this year
I wonder who would have the next making. Hopefully not dell. Lol
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Could be from HTC too, we have no idea however if were assuming each manufacturer gets one moto is out. The xoom is the nexus of tablets. Pure android, the most powerful, and most important the first.
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Could be from HTC too, we have no idea however if were assuming each manufacturer gets one moto is out. The xoom is the nexus of tablets. Pure android, the most powerful, and most important the first.
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I could see another htc nexus
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the nexus s will ****ly follow the same exact way as the nexus one. gotta think, the nexus one sales were in the ball park of 300k units or so. the way the nexus s is selling, it seems to be in a similar ballpark range. when the ATT version releases that will bump it up for sure, probably to nexus one levels around 300k.
when is the att version being released.
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I hope so, not bad having a so-called "Rare" phone
I feel like its a rare phone now. People probably think I have a china mobile knockoff
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I feel like its a rare phone now. People probably think I have a china mobile knockoff
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I've run into a few "Droid"-fanbois (people who think they know android but still call all android devices "droids") who ask me what my phone is and show a little bit of interest. For example, my sister's boyfriend. I had a blast showing him the phone then I "accidentally" brought up a screenshot of a 4.2k Quadrant. His eyes bugged out and he asked me if it where I had found that and what phone it was from. I told him it was mine and he scoffed. I ran quadrant and his jaw hit the floor. Nexus S 1, Motorola Droid X 0. Lawl.
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the nexus s will ****ly follow the same exact way as the nexus one. gotta think, the nexus one sales were in the ball park of 300k units or so. the way the nexus s is selling, it seems to be in a similar ballpark range. when the ATT version releases that will bump it up for sure, probably to nexus one levels around 300k.
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Not a challenge here, just curious: on what are you basing your estimates of Nexus S sales? I've not seen any official numbers released.
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I feel like its a rare phone now.
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It may be rare, but I've noticed an explosion of new names showing up here in the Nexus S forum the last couple of weeks, so the phone seems to be getting a lot of new attention.
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I feel like its a rare phone now. People probably think I have a china mobile knockoff
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I don't think so, any one I've talked to, or saw my phone in action automatically recognized it as Nexus S, and not the usual "is that an iphone?" (when i was using the SGS I9000) LOL
so that on its own it's worth it
apparently people can associate Nexus to Google, but they can't quite get the SGS design and mistaken for the iphone very often.
the Boot Animation of the Nexus S is a big give away, people see it and they are like WOW! is that the new Nexus phone?! , and you nod or say yes, and you start to see their drool
specially people on Wind stores, and Mobility City stores
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Not a challenge here, just curious: on what are you basing your estimates of Nexus S sales? I've not seen any official numbers released.
It may be rare, but I've noticed an explosion of new names showing up here in the Nexus S forum the last couple of weeks, so the phone seems to be getting a lot of new attention.
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the best estimates i've seen are from a few weeks ago, when the official android version numbers were released. gingerbread made up 0.3% of android devices. since we know 300k units per day, roughly, are activated, you can do the math.
0.003 x 300,000 = 900 per day
900 x 60 days = 54,000 devices sold in 2 months.
its way way rough guesstimate. but it seems in the ballpark of that. i certainly would not say the nexus s has sold a million units. i thin kits closer to the <100k mark.
this is all loose rough guessing though, educated as best can be. but tons of factors are excluded from that guess.
Yeah, seems like a rough number at best, but a reasonable enough method for our purposes.
Over 500,000 sold
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the best estimates i've seen are from a few weeks ago, when the official android version numbers were released. gingerbread made up 0.3% of android devices. since we know 300k units per day, roughly, are activated, you can do the math.
0.003 x 300,000 = 900 per day
900 x 60 days = 54,000 devices sold in 2 months.
its way way rough guesstimate. but it seems in the ballpark of that. i certainly would not say the nexus s has sold a million units. i thin kits closer to the <100k mark.
this is all loose rough guessing though, educated as best can be. but tons of factors are excluded from that guess.
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Just want to say that that figure isn't quite right. Yes, 2.3 made up .3% of Android devices (at the time. It's .8% now), but that does not mean it makes up .3% of Android activations. First of all, most of those 1.5 and 1.6 devices aren't being sold at all, so 2.3 is actually competing with a smaller pool. Second, the Nexus S is a newer device (and was the newest device available for the first month or so of its release), so logically, it would net a larger percentage of the sales. It's impossible to guess those figures though.
A better way to do it is to calculate it based on the total number of unique Android devices, which, according to Gartner's, is somewhere around 70 million devices. 0.8% of 70 million comes out to over 500 thousand Nexus S' sold!
Edit: Also, I don't think Gartner's is including Tablets in their figure, so Nexus S sales might even be well over 600k now. Or it might be about the right number to offset people with unofficial 2.3 ROMs. Either way, I'm fairly confident that the Nexus S has sold over 500k units.
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Not a challenge here, just curious: on what are you basing your estimates of Nexus S sales? I've not seen any official numbers released.
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Probably because the nexus s is being released worldwide in March. Most of Asia is getting it around this time.
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Just want to say that that figure isn't quite right. Yes, 2.3 made up .3% of Android devices (at the time. It's .8% now), but that does not mean it makes up .3% of Android activations. First of all, most of those 1.5 and 1.6 devices aren't being sold at all, so 2.3 is actually competing with a smaller pool. Second, the Nexus S is a newer device (and was the newest device available for the first month or so of its release), so logically, it would net a larger percentage of the sales. It's impossible to guess those figures though.
A better way to do it is to calculate it based on the total number of unique Android devices, which, according to Gartner's, is somewhere around 70 million devices. 0.8% of 70 million comes out to over 500 thousand Nexus S' sold!
Edit: Also, I don't think Gartner's is including Tablets in their figure, so Nexus S sales might even be well over 600k now. Or it might be about the right number to offset people with unofficial 2.3 ROMs. Either way, I'm fairly confident that the Nexus S has sold over 500k units.
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I thought i remember the Q4 2010 android numbers being around 30 million. so we could use a rough gues based on that as well, 0.008x30million = 240k devices. Using the original 0.3% gives 0.003x30million = 90k devices. (that's personally my guess as most accurate).
i'd personally have to say there is no way the nexus s sold a half million devices. i could be completely wrong, but i still think it's around <100k.
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I thought i remember the Q4 2010 android numbers being around 30 million. so we could use a rough gues based on that as well, 0.008x30million = 240k devices. Using the original 0.3% gives 0.003x30million = 90k devices. (that's personally my guess as most accurate).
i'd personally have to say there is no way the nexus s sold a half million devices. i could be completely wrong, but i still think it's around <100k.
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I think the figures from Gartner's is pretty accurate. The Galaxy S alone has sold something like 15 million units. The Droid X sold around 2+ million in the first quarter. The original Droid reached 1 million sales in just 74 days. And this is just in the United States (not including the Galaxy S). Worldwide sales for the other major Android manufacturers are actually pretty close to Samsung's sales, so that 70+ million figure sounds about right to me.
Maybe the 30 million figure you heard was US only?
Edit: Nexus One sold 135k units in the first 74 days, and I'm certain the Nexus S is selling significantly better than the N1 did.
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Probably because the nexus s is being released worldwide in March. Most of Asia is getting it around this time.
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Any idea about India release date?
also I heard they'd strip the SUPER part of the super AMOLED and instead throw in a LCD in india?
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GO SAMSUNG Galaxy S. Suck it iPhone!
Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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I'm just happy my backing the Android racehorse hasn't been a mistake
is this the number of all the galaxy s phones in the world?
captivate/vibrant/i9000/epic etc...
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is this the number of all the galaxy s phones in the world?
captivate/vibrant/i9000/epic etc...
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No. It's AT&T plus T-Mobile. And it's 1 million shipped. Not sold.
But I doubt Verizon and Sprint will sell as many Galaxy as AT&T and T-mobile. Verizon already has a great Android line. Galaxy S for verizon is just ugly.
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Hating on the competition doesn't make sense to me :/ .. but I guess good for Galaxy S.
Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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Well, Rule #1 in this forum (and all the other android forums): any pro-Apple post will be deleted and your account will be suspended!
Quite impressive for Samsung.
Been contemplating this very question for awhile....and also two more:
> How many have been 'sold' worldwide? Id say approx. 2 million but thats just my guess - considering sammy has sold heaps in Korea.
> How many HTC Desire's have been sold worldwide, as this gives a good representation of Sammy's android competition.
One million phones sold? Impressive.
Ah, it seems like yesterday that I was envying Omnia i900 owners for their 3.2in screen, 624Mhz processor, and smooth Windows Mobile performance. Now I own a Galaxy i9000 variant with a 4in SAMOLED, 1Ghz processor, and an Android OS (which wasn't even released yet at the time).
Good times.
Android and Apple can happily coexist. It's true! I even like both platforms despite each of their con's.
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Believe it or not though. The iPhone is quite a feat with what it has done to the industry.
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I think a lot of people forget about how touch interfaces were before the iPhone. Remember using a stylus? Even though the iPhone isn't for me, I appreciate the push that it gave to the industry to design better UIs. That being said, I think that Android will eclipse the iPhone some day and these numbers are encouraging.
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I think a lot of people forget about how touch interfaces were before the iPhone. Remember using a stylus? Even though the iPhone isn't for me, I appreciate the push that it gave to the industry to design better UIs. That being said, I think that Android will eclipse the iPhone some day and these numbers are encouraging.
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I completely agree. I wonder if Android would have even entered the market if Google hadn't seen how successful Apple was.
I look at the two like this: iPhone is great for people who want smart phone functionality with a VERY simple interface. Android is great for people who want smart phone functionality and control the phone at a more granular level.
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I completely agree. I wonder if Android would have even entered the market if Google hadn't seen how successful Apple was.
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Google had already acquired Android and was investing in it before Apple announced the iPhone. Google was already building in the space.
That said, if you've seen the early Android stuff... well, things changed a ton before we even got to the G1. Which was now famously described by Andy Rubin as beta level software, a .8 version. The super early stuff was more Blackberry than Apple, and in fact, Apple wasn't even yet an established top player yet. But certainly, Android development, in co-ordination with Apple's runaway success took a very iPhone-esque turn. And, at least in my opinion, very much for the better.
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Also, 1 million shipped in 45 days on AT&T and T-Mobile is very impressive. I wish we had a break down of the AT&T and T-Mobile specific numbers. If even 300,000 of those are Captivates than AT&T must be in shock, they did almost no promotion, especially before release, yet this would be selling big numbers right across from those massive iPhone 4 displays. Maybe then they will step up their Android efforts. And maybe we will see both Android and iPhone displays at AT&T stores soon.
The Epic seems to be doing quite well in terms of buzz. It should do well. Many of the various versions of the International Galaxy S are doing very well. And doing bonkers in Korea. They did what, 300,000 in Korea in 19 days? And had sold 1 million worldwide in less than 4 weeks on the same date, which was July 13th. Before any US versions released. Now... hard to say until we get an update, but 3 million worldwide wouldn't be surprising, and that's with the Epic, Fascinate, and not all global markets released yet. Though I will say, I am a bit worried about the Fascinate. But it might do alright. People talk about the options on Verizon, but there are many of the same options or more in Europe, and the Galaxy S line has still sold very well.
(It will also be interesting to see how the Vibrant sells when the G2 is released. Very interesting. Also how T-Mobile development moves. The G1 was the starting point, then the Magic was strong, and then the Nexus One, especially on T-Mobile, maybe the height of community Android development centering on a device. The Vibrant has some momentum, especially as the first super high end T-Mobile phone, as the Nexus One wasn't a T-Mobile phone, just on the network. The G2 could split that up. We will see.)
I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy, but... Apple sells that many iPhones in 10 days.
Total global sales so far have exceeded 3 million and its climbing.
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I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy, but... Apple sells that many iPhones in 10 days.
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Come on now...I dont think humans are really THAT stupid but I could be wrong....that would be scary
Go Galaxy S...my bro took a while to upgrade from his love affair with blackberry and now cannot put the galaxy down....oh yeah another convert!
I'm pretty sure that's about correct. They already sold over three million.
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TexUs said:
I hate the iPhone as much as the next guy
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I hope I am not the only one in this forum that loves both iOS and Android. I wish both do well. I hope the competition can go forever so the customers can be real winner.
I hope they both do well. I think Android is better suited to phones than IOS. IOS rocks the Tablet form factor though.
Apple only sell about 5-6 mil each year.
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Apple only sell about 5-6 mil each year.
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haha yea only lol.
But really though I think there's too much Apple hating with Android (Bootscreen's with Android peeing or pooping apple, wallpapers etc.). Android IS amazing and all but what do you really get bashing another platform that keep Android developers in check by working even harder to compete with the other guys? I guess it's all for the fun.
With that said. Love my phone right now
Anyone seen any sales numbers on the Nexus S yet ?
If they were flying off the shelf I'd think we'd have seen some press on it by now.
I'm guessing the sales figures are underwhelming.
Maybe thats why the Nexus One is still lonely for Gingerbread ?
Not sure what the sales figures are, but until this past Sunday - it had not been advertised in the Best Buy flyer (here in Denver CO.). So maybe now, sales will pick up some - since they're finally starting to advertise it...?
P.S. Must not have done too bad in sales, wasn't it back-ordered last week?
Its advertised all over the internet... Google ads have nexus s all over them.
Gingerbread for the nexus one is out and modded.
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Gingerbread for the nexus one is out and modded.
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Really? I see a lot of hybrid and 0.x level ROMs based on AOSP code, but nothing official from Google.
What am I missing?
going_home said:
Anyone seen any sales numbers on the Nexus S yet ?
If they were flying off the shelf I'd think we'd have seen some press on it by now.
I'm guessing the sales figures are underwhelming.
Maybe thats why the Nexus One is still lonely for Gingerbread ?
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Multiple Best Buy employees told me that when they checked the stock from local stores that all stores in and around Houston Texas were told out in 24 hours. I had to drive 2 hours across town to get the last one from a small town outside of Houston. People in Europe were saying similar things when the Nexus S was released on December 22nd.
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Multiple Best Buy employees told me that when they checked the stock from local stores that all stores in and around Houston Texas were told out in 24 hours. I had to drive 2 hours across town to get the last one from a small town outside of Houston. People in Europe were saying similar things when the Nexus S was released on December 22nd.
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It's hard to deduce real meaning from that kind of anecdotal evidence.
Yeah, stores sold out fast, and in the past we'd have said that meant that the sales exceeded expectations (a good thing), but now part of the marketing campaign on many products is false shortages to artificially create a sense of demand. They only release part of what they expect to actually sell into the retail chain the first week or two to keep the item interesting. Look at the Nexus One, EVO 4G, a couple of the iPhone models, the iPad, etc - all of them sold out the first day or two. Are the planners really that conservative/wrong in their sales forecasts, or are they just playing marketing games?
Until we see some actual numbers there's really no way to know how many of the devices were sold, and whether it's a disappointing number or not.
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Multiple Best Buy employees told me that when they checked the stock from local stores that all stores in and around Houston Texas were told out in 24 hours. I had to drive 2 hours across town to get the last one from a small town outside of Houston. People in Europe were saying similar things when the Nexus S was released on December 22nd.
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Most Best Buys in this area had like 4 or 5 of them.
Only one store was actually a T-Mobile dealer and they had 70.
So based on almost none in stock, its easy to see how they could
easily be sold out.
Honestly though, Google made a niche phone that the average phone
buyer wont buy.
Even many N1 owners arent buying it.
Is it maybe that the N1 owners expected a major upgrade from their current
phone, and thats certainly not the case at all.
I know I was underwhelmed by the NS and returned it after a week.
The MT4G is definitely a faster phone, and yes the 4G is in the area.
If nexus one ROM really is being purposely delayed, when it does finally come out it better be solid as a rock with all the extra testing time they get.
Hate to be devil's advocate, but really, Google is no longer obligated to update the Nexus One. Therefore, they'll get to it when they get to it.
I am a Nexus One user and I picked up the Nexus S from my local Best Buy about a week ago. It was interesting to me that there was no in-store signage or promotion. As I was waiting for the guy that was helping me to check to see if they had the phone back in stock - ("we were sold out" ) Two other people walked up and asked about the same phone.
I started chatting with them and neither one had previously used an Android device. Both had seen the phone advertised online and thought it looked like a cool phone. I finished up first and left with my phone but I think they both were buying the device as well.
The Best Buy employee I was dealing with said they weren't getting a lot of stock but they were quickly selling out of what they were getting in FWIW.
Best Buy in Northgate - Seattle had huge shelf full of Nexus S. After a few hours on Dec 16, half was gone. I know they eventually sold every single phone since a week later they were out. Had to drive up north to Alderwood to pick up a replacement and even there the stock was limited. So i am guessing the phone sold ok.
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Hate to be devil's advocate, but really, Google is no longer obligated to update the Nexus One. Therefore, they'll get to it when they get to it.
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Well, it never was obligated.
rjdaly28 said:
I am a Nexus One user and I picked up the Nexus S from my local Best Buy about a week ago. It was interesting to me that there was no in-store signage or promotion. As I was waiting for the guy that was helping me to check to see if they had the phone back in stock - ("we were sold out" ) Two other people walked up and asked about the same phone.
I started chatting with them and neither one had previously used an Android device. Both had seen the phone advertised online and thought it looked like a cool phone. I finished up first and left with my phone but I think they both were buying the device as well.
The Best Buy employee I was dealing with said they weren't getting a lot of stock but they were quickly selling out of what they were getting in FWIW.
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Best Buy Mobile in Woodfield mall had signs promoting the Nexus S, and when I went in for an exchange, they had a working demo unit kinda like how apple has their iPhones and iPads at their stores.
Nexus phones aren't really about sales they are about setting an example of what an android phone should be. How many phones had 1ghz processors before the Nexus One. Google forced manufacturers to stop making phones that had only weak processors. Manufacturers are only in it for the money and they don't care how bad they make android look, there are a lot of people who say android sucks because they used to own a backflip for example. I think the Nexus S is going to sell a lot more than the Nexus One because after 12 months I only knew of one other person who had one and I bought it for him (he paid me back). In the first week I have already seen or talked to people who know other people that have bought it. It will never sell a lot though not like the Evo or Mytouch, it is not all over TV or carrier approved, they would never let you get away with free tethering.
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Best Buy Mobile in Woodfield mall had signs promoting the Nexus S, and when I went in for an exchange, they had a working demo unit kinda like how apple has their iPhones and iPads at their stores.
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Yeah the small town where I got mine had a big sign above checkout counter and the Best Buy next to my house had a bigger sign, free pamphlets, and a demo unit.
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I checked 2 smaller best buys in Wisconsin in smaller towns ~30-50k people and both stores had stock and didn't seem to run out.
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didnt the G1 get updates for close to 2 full years until they retired it? yeah, i'm pretty sure the nexus one has plenty of life left in it lol...
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didnt the G1 get updates for close to 2 full years until they retired it? yeah, i'm pretty sure the nexus one has plenty of life left in it lol...
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Not saying they won't update it or shouldn't. Just that Google can take their time with it.
So two weeks ago, I got my Galaxy S3 And today I saw my friend for the first time in a few weeks. He got an iPhone 5 while I got my S3. So we talked about how each of our respective phones was better. We ended by me betting that my S3 will last longer than his iPhone 5 in terms of who will get updates the longest. Whoever won would pay the next upgrade...and I'm pretty sure that I won't have $200 to spare two years from now.
My main question is whether or not you think I made a pretty good bet or not. I hope I did Thoughts?
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So two weeks ago, I got my Galaxy S3 And today I saw my friend for the first time in a few weeks. He got an iPhone 5 while I got my S3. So we talked about how each of our respective phones was better. We ended by me betting that my S3 will last longer than his iPhone 5 in terms of who will get updates the longest. Whoever won would pay the next upgrade...and I'm pretty sure that I won't have $200 to spare two years from now.
My main question is whether or not you think I made a pretty good bet or not. I hope I did Thoughts?
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You realize this is not a Nexus, right?
I don't think that was a safe bet. The iphones have a great track record of getting updates compared to Samsungs and even androids in general, IMO.
I didn't mention officially or not lol
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You should probably think a bit more carefully about your finances if you can't have an extra 200 dollars in two years.
Good thing you'll have 6 months between when they cut you off from updates at around 18 months and the end of your contract at 24. It'll give you time to come up with 400 bucks. 200 for your next phone (min.) and 200 for his.
No matter how good devs are..... at the rate things change with Android, even if you get a port of whatever OS Android uses at the time, I bet it won't have all the features, have glitches due to hardware limitations or unavailable drivers for months.
May I suggest marry rich or perhaps a second job?
Your best shots are
A) Hope your friend doesn't know better that you are flashing ROMS
B) Don't be friends in 2 years, the time honored way of escaping serious long term bets
From prior experience most droid only get updated for about a year then start to fall off think you may have made a boo boo on this one
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Don't worry get the s4 and he went even know. After all he is an iphone user.
On a different Note is that all you two could come with? How long you would get updates?
Remember that the ancient iPhone 3g is still running the newest updates
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the most retarded bet ever imo...the ibone obviously will get more updates, refer to what heshmonster said. apple only has 5 devices to release updates for in 5yrs time. Android has hundreds...dont take this the wrong way but android devices are like disposable cameras, once the film runs out they are trash. that being said i still will never get a iphone!
he can always hope Samsung finally wins a lawsuit and all the iphones get banned!
He can also hope for world peace though, just sayin'
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the most retarded bet ever imo...the ibone obviously will get more updates, refer to what heshmonster said. apple only has 5 devices to release updates for in 5yrs time. Android has hundreds...dont take this the wrong way but android devices are like disposable cameras, once the film runs out they are trash. that being said i still will never get a iphone!
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Well, 6, but who's counting?
Ya you lost that bet. Might as well pay now. He was a smart cookie for taking that bet though.
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The bet seems too vague considering that both devices can be flashed with hacked up firmware.
On the one side, I kept my original Moto Droid from the day it launched to the day I got my SGS3 preorder in the mail.
This is while I watched many colleagues go through many iterations of the iphone, each time buying an entirely new device.
The original Moto Droid actually just got JellyBean, and I know the original iphone can not even kind of run iOS 4, much less iOS 6.
If anything the iphone is the disposable camera in this scenario. Ever try to get anything above iOS 3 on a second generation iPod touch and you will know what I mean.
Back on topic though, the bet will not have a clear winner in 2 years. Try 4 years and you will see which device has the most longevity.
Ta,
ALQI
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I can imagine in the heat of the moment, we like to think that products like ours (with a popular modding community behind it) gives it a longer life span since modders will typically add new features from other phones to this one.
Horrible bet.
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why are they shooting for cheap?? why not price it at 500-600 dollars but make it a quality phone?? show the world what they are capable of.
HRodMusic said:
why are they shooting for cheap?? why not price it at 500-600 dollars but make it a quality phone?? show the world what they are capable of.
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Price at £500, get x sales
Price at £300, get 2x sales + recognition as a reasonably pricing company, with a quality product, and a lot more factors.
It's business. That's why.
Why post this question? This is another useless thread.
Honestly the nexus 5's quality is on par with some of the higher end smartphones available right now. Admittingly the speakers and camera are not the best, but other than that it's a good phone. There's really no reason for most companies to jack up the price of their phones to $500-600. Just because it costs that much doesn't mean it's quality. If you look at how much it costs to build a nexus phone, vs a leading high end smartphone, you'll see there's not a lot of difference.
They want to put this phone in as many hands as they can. What do you think they make all that money from?
What do you mean? Google is barely charging a mark up. That's why its cheap. Not because they're using. Cheap parts
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sunil237 said:
Price at £500, get x sales
Price at £300, get 2x sales + recognition as a reasonably pricing company, with a quality product, and a lot more factors.
It's business. That's why.
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than have 2 products. gotta please your other customers that want the very best.
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Why post this question? This is another useless thread.
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its not useless, i just want to see what other people think. if you disagree, then tell me why you prefer just the cheap version.
Thanks.
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HRodMusic said:
its not useless, i just want to see what other people think. if you disagree, then tell me why you prefer just the cheap version.
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I think you're the only one here who believes this phone is cheap. Again as stated before, Google does not mark up their devices very much, thus creating a more affordable price. Samsung, HTC, Apple, everyone else will mark theirs up a lot more, but they also do this to pay the middle man (warehouses, retail stores, etc). Google sells their own hardware on their own website, so they're cutting out a lot of the middle men, thus keeping prices down.
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I think you're the only one here who believes this phone is cheap. Again as stated before, Google does not mark up their devices very much, thus creating a more affordable price. Samsung, HTC, Apple, everyone else will mark theirs up a lot more, but they also do this to pay the middle man (warehouses, retail stores, etc). Google sells their own hardware on their own website, so they're cutting out a lot of the middle men, thus keeping prices down.
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i guess my expectations where just very high, and all we got was a mediocre phone that competes with early this year devices, gs4 and htc one etc...
Seems like people are really stuck on stats and fluff.
So if the N5 had aluminum, would that make it "premium"?
Does it need a 42MP camera, with 3.5GHz 8 core CPU, 4GB RAM, 4K display and 128GB ROM?
Why not make a smart phone that is truly smart, doesn't need bleeding edge stats to run AND be affordable. Oh, that's right Google has already done that with the Moto X and now N5.
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i guess my expectations where just very high, and all we got was a mediocre phone that competes with early this year devices, gs4 and htc one etc...
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You have had 15 phones in the past 39 months (a phone change every 2.6 months). I don't see why this is a big deal for you. If they did make a 'better phone' there would be an even better one released a couple months later. They are building a brand...normal people are starting to understand what a Nexus device is (and most can afford one). To put a whole new chipset in a phone requires substantially more money and carries more chances of bugs. Google is starting to influence hardware chip designs with Android's features and I am sure they have a plan to release a feature complete phone that is better than everything else in due time.
Stop complaining and enjoy your new toy.
Then the OEMS have no reason to complete other than custom skins. Like Microsoft and windows 8 tablet and phones
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i guess my expectations where just very high, and all we got was a mediocre phone that competes with early this year devices, gs4 and htc one etc...
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Sell it and buy yourself an Iphone 5S, you haven't tried that yet. Maybe that will satisfy your high expectations. :fingers-crossed:
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Sell it and buy yourself an Iphone 5S, you haven't tried that yet. Maybe that will satisfy your high expectations. :fingers-crossed:
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hahaha naw im good with the iphone 5 for now.
Can we have this thread closed, it's another unnecessary thread that doesn't help with anything and is also in the wrong section.
Please close.
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Nexus 5 is awesome. Enuff said!
Also agree pointless thread.
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The Nexus `s are meant to serve as an example and showcase for other oem`s regarding how software should be like. That aside the Nexus 5 hardware is very very good compared to the price you pay
Can't wait till all the love or hate threads die down.
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Stephen Hall (from 9to5Google) tweeted that "Nexus isn't dead." https://twitter.com/hallstephenj/status/780211011823337472
Slash Gear had an article which mentions future Nexus phones, not just tablets. http://www.slashgear.com/google-pixel-vs-nexus-key-details-of-the-not-quite-dead-28457902/
Unfortunately, there isn't much information or proof mentioned, and I don't know the reliability of either one of them. Are there other Nexus rumors floating around out there, or is this just wishful thinking?
ive had the g1(dream), nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 5, nexus 6, and the 2012 nexus 7. its 100% that the nexus isnt dead until google says its dead. BUT.. at this point, im believing that the nexus will be dead :crying:
Yeah. The guy from 9to5Google said later his opinion was there probably wouldn't be another *phone*. I'm guessing he was referring to the new Huawei tablet.
Too bad. I bought my wife the LG Nexus 5X last year and have been following the development of T50/Sailfish/Pixel since early this year. Unfortunately, it would almost take a miracle to get me to buy it now.
It's high time to replace my beloved Nexus 5. Was hoping this year's Nexus device would be the upgrade of my dreams, but I'm with you. If the $650 price point is true, I can't see anything to get me to buy Pixel. Uninspired design at a premium price.
I owned a couple of nexus phones before but they're not really relevant now these days.
In a year Google will realize their Pixel major mistake and revive the Nexus!
I don't know. The Nexus line wasn't exactly a super seller, and I think Big G is now interested in profits only--from phones and services, as well as whatever they can harvest for their focus on AI. If you look in almost any industry, there is a market for cheap garbage and uber-expensive stuff. There really isn't much for the best-bang-for-your-buck. I'd like to think there'd be another Nexus phone, but it'll be too late for me. Not just because I'm going to get an HTC 10, but I've been rather disappointed with most news I've heard about El Goog since they reorganized under Alphabet. However, admittedly, some of it relates to their ongoing anti-trust investigations over the last couple of years. If it lasts for a while, and if Sailfish OS gains traction, this HTC 10 will most likely be my last Android phone. I'm not happy with Big G's recent direction.
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I don't know. The Nexus line wasn't exactly a super seller, and I think Big G is now interested in profits only--from phones and services, as well as whatever they can harvest for their focus on AI. If you look in almost any industry, there is a market for cheap garbage and uber-expensive stuff. There really isn't much for the best-bang-for-your-buck. I'd like to think there'd be another Nexus phone, but it'll be too late for me. Not just because I'm going to get an HTC 10, but I've been rather disappointed with most news I've heard about El Goog since they reorganized under Alphabet. However, admittedly, some of it relates to their ongoing anti-trust investigations over the last couple of years. If it lasts for a while, and if Sailfish OS gains traction, this HTC 10 will most likely be my last Android phone. I'm not happy with Big G's recent direction.
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You made a point here. They started showing their hunger. For example "Youtube Red" [emoji28]
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What I read is that Google has "no plans" for future Nexus devices. Plans can change. The Nexus line is/was a platform for development. It's no accident that each new version of Android incorporates more and more features created by the independent, enthusiast development community (ie: CyanogenMod).
No new Nexus phones this year, now they're doing this Pixel thing. I think it's going to fail, and fail hard. There's no way it's going to be successful at those prices. It's not as naively ridiculous as the Amazon Fire phone, but it's still way too much money for a phone that doesn't have the features and functions of other flagship phones from Samsung, LG, Apple, etc. Most of us here enjoy a stock or near-stock Android, but we're an extremely small part of the smartphone market.