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Might trade my SGS3 for an LG Intuition, bad idea?

So im in the talks of trading my SGS3 for an Intuition. I'm curious to see how that phone would be on a daily basis. But im afraid I'll regret the decision. I know this forum will be based. But im reaching out to my fellow XDA addicts for their input.
Let me know what you think about it.
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To each is own, but I'd prefer the s3.
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I've really been looking at doing the same. It's hard to get decent opinions because most people say it's bad but have never even seen one irl. One of the big problems I have is it will probably never see a custom rom besides root. It's also a rather old phone but it can still play pretty much any game and handle anything. I played with one at verizon and it had some lag but I'm not sure if it's the launcher or not. Kinda bugs me also because I know I'll lose the stylus and it's just a normal stylus you can buy off amazon for like $2 (nothing like a s pen). I will probably buy one to try it, I can see myself possibly loving it or totally hating it, I doubt there a a middle ground.
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Clienterror said:
I've really been looking at doing the same. It's hard to get decent opinions because most people say it's bad but have never even seen one irl. One of the big problems I have is it will probably never see a custom rom besides root. It's also a rather old phone but it can still play pretty much any game and handle anything. I played with one at verizon and it had some lag but I'm not sure if it's the launcher or not. Kinda bugs me also because I know I'll lose the stylus and it's just a normal stylus you can buy off amazon for like $2 (nothing like a s pen). I will probably buy one to try it, I can see myself possibly loving it or totally hating it, I doubt there a a middle ground.
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Same here. I've only played with one in verizon. I'm just afraid of the width hindering it in my daily use. That includes fitting comfortably in my back pocket.
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That would be like taking 4 steps forward then 6 steps back!

g.davis17 said:
Same here. I've only played with one in verizon. I'm just afraid of the width hindering it in my daily use. That includes fitting comfortably in my back pocket.
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Who keeps their phone in their back pocket...trololol. That's where my mom puts her phone. She's dropped three in the toilet and sat on two others and still hasn't learned.
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Who keeps their phone in their back pocket...trololol. That's where my mom puts her phone. She's dropped three in the toilet and sat on two others and still hasn't learned.
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Well I've never broken a phone and I've always done that since my first smartphone. The Palm Treo 755p. Lol. I'm more careful with my phones and now that phones are getting bigger and bigger you don't feel them as much when you carry them in the back pocket because it just feels like a wallet or something.
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If you're into getting a bigger phone, I would hold for the Galaxy Note II. It's coming to Verizon, and is likely to see custom roms. I highly doubt the Intuition will see much. The phone seems solid, but LG has lately had problems with keeping up on Android updates (I'm looking at you, Spectrum). Samsung, while not perfect, shows more promise in rolling out updates.

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If you're into getting a bigger phone, I would hold for the Galaxy Note II. It's coming to Verizon, and is likely to see custom roms. I highly doubt the Intuition will see much. The phone seems solid, but LG has lately had problems with keeping up on Android updates (I'm looking at you, Spectrum). Samsung, while not perfect, shows more promise in rolling out updates.
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Yea I'm really thinking about the note 2 as well but the format of the intuition makes it awesome for emails, Internet, pdfs ect. The only only place it lacks is watching videos, and it's S3 cpu which is like 2 years old already I just ask myself how often do I watch videos on my phone, not a ton how often do I email look up things on the Web? Probably 200+ times a day.
I probably still won't get it but I'd love to see them make one (and release it in the us) with better specs and fore thought across the board and I'd be on it
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droidstyle said:
That would be like taking 4 steps forward then 6 steps back!
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THANK YOU! At least one person said it.... If you cannot do anything to a phone besides rooting it then it won't be in my hands.... I have to have full control so I can optimize every aspect of my phone cause we all know the manufacturers won't and Verizon DEFINITELY won't! The LG is a pretty giant leap back so I would wait for the Note 2 or the possibility of another Nexus device but def do not go backwards... (Just my opinion)

If you don't really care about ever using a custom ROM then go ahead. Otherwise I believe the SGS3 has it beat in every category.

I wouldn't. The single biggest problem with the phone is the aspect ratio. Every single review points out how awkward the phone is with a 4:3 ratio.

I would NOT do it.
If you want a phablet, wait for the Note 2. I highly doubt many devs will work on the intuition. You'd get better development off the droid x2.
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Battery life is dismal on the intuition also. Wait for note2.
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Is LG considered a top brand now like Samsung or HTC, or are they still playing around in Huwai level standards?
What are their flagship devices - are they still just knock-offs of font runners or do they have their own developments as contenders?

Blue6IX said:
Is LG considered a top brand now like Samsung or HTC, or are they still playing around in Huwai level standards?
What are their flagship devices - are they still just knock-offs of font runners or do they have their own e
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I personally consider HTC, Samsung, and Moto on top Tier (for phones) and everything else way below on the DO NOT EVER BUY list

I can't say I have ever heard of someone satisfied with an lg phone.
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Well, looks like people will have to reconsider seeing as the next Nexus is made by LG.
Samsung Galaxy S3

Intuition has terrible battery life and an even worse camera. I do like the design but there's absolutely no way I'd trade my S3 for one. I'm also waiting on a phablet worthy of ditching my S3. Going to be the Note II probably. Not to mention Samsung has a ton of great tablet/s-pen features that can't be found elsewhere. One last thing is the stylus has no built in holder. You have to carry it separately. Deal breaker right there for me.

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Well, looks like people will have to reconsider seeing as the next Nexus is made by LG.
Samsung Galaxy S3
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I forsee alot of people not getting the next nexus if thats the case.

is ICS dead?

I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful

harecurtis said:
I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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the only downfall with the dna in my opinion is that HTC makes it
now im not a htc hater, in fact they are the company that make me jump on the android ship, and ive loved them until I had the thunderbolt, rezound and incredible 4g
with the lack of updates from HTC im affraid to get the DNA, the best comparison is the droid razr and rezound; the razr has 4.1 ready to roll out in early Q1 2013 (there was an "accidental" ota update a few weeks back that gave a few hundred uses android 4.1, and motorola confirmed android 4.1 in early Q1) where the HTC rezound may get 4.1 but it will prolly be around june- and I honestly think thats on the early side.
but If HTC shows better upgrades ide jump over there to the DNA right now

Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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disconnecktie said:
Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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These are my thoughts exactly.
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Oh and on another note. Verizon is partially to blame for the lack of support and ics on this device. They keep stonewalling the update because I think they know we still have unlimited and they want us off of it. If they give us the update then it is unlikely we will upgrade anytime soon. You also can't forget that this phone was the first from Verizon that has the svdo capability which the source to that has been kept under lock and key for quite some time now. I think that Verizon is protecting that info because they may resurrect it later on. This and the rezound are the only two phones that are able to talk and surf even on 3g. The others that are able to do this use volte (voice over lte) which only works with 4g.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.

Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.

viceversa said:
As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
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Probably going to be waiting awhile... There is a reason you don't see the nexus4 on Verizon
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.

santod040 said:
I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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and it wont change. ever. they have moved away from customer support because they don't need to worry about happy customers if they already have them tied down for two years. and all those issues people have disappear when its time to upgrade and the consumer is happy again. then the cycle begins again
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thanks for the feedback everyone!
I know HTC isnt just to blame, BUT if you look at apple for instance (sorry for bringing them up) they can do what they want with their phones, and the carriers can pretty much shove it if they dont like it.
now my question is this, why can apple do what they want (ex no bloatware, and updates whenever they see fit) and android companies (HTC, LG, Samsung, And even Google with the case of a nexus) cant?

I left my Thunderbolt for a Galaxy Note II and I absolutely love it. It is the perfect size for me, and it still manages to sit comfortably in my pockets. The phone overall is excellent, but the two features that stand out are the stylus and the battery life.
I did not consider getting the DNA because it has an inferior screen (resolution aside,) and the battery life has been reported to be horrendous. I would say either the Note II or the GS3 are both very safe bets if you are looking to get a new phone.

As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).

While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.

Dannar said:
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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I have two phones with unlimited data on my plan and if I took the share everything plan I would end paying $40 more a month and get less data than I actually need. Plus I still wouldn't get one of those phone subsidies you're talking about since I'm not eligible for upgrade for a while so I would definitely pay full retail for a phone before I lost unlimited. Also there are plenty of phones I could buy used that are excellent for half the price of retail or better.
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wiredmonkey said:
Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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I'm leaning towards the S4 myself. I'm done with HTC. Got a Tab 2 and I absolutely love Samsung
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SlyG07 said:
As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
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All vzw customers will eventually lose unlimited data. They won't let you keep it forever. Mark my words
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Dannar said:
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Just like other guy stated I would be paying more if I went on share everything plan I don't use a crazy amount of data but 13-20 GB a month is where I sit. I am hoping Google releases a phone every year like the upcoming xphone so I can buy it off the play store, if they are in stock that is. But I will hold onto my unlimited data as long as I can cause their share everything plan is a joke, $40 for a smart phone access fee equals $29.99+$9.99 which is what we were already paying to buy the unlimited or 2gb or 4gb all they did was slap a two cent raise and hoped no one would notice. I noticed jerks!!!!
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.

lukesed said:
HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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That is true but how can we expect a company to push out an ota for a one year old device that probably 95% of the purchasers moved to a different device. We should all be happy that they got their crap together enough to give us this last one.
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Android 4.2 and 5.0 touch wiz

And the rant begins...
Felt like venting to my fellow XDA members at how utterly ridiculous these lags in updates are.
How on earth does Google release android 4.2 Jelly Bean back in October 2012, and only TWO phones are currently running it?
Is Google being held hostage by each carrier so much to the point of a simple .1 update? What will it take for this nonsense to finally come to an end!?
Not to mention Verizon leaks 4.1.2 out this week and they removed premium suite....what exactly did this update offer?
I cant see a successful future for any of these companies or Google if this cancerous relationship between the OS and Carrier continues much longer.
And supposedly 5.0 key lime pie is coming in May?
What phones will be running 5.0 out of the gates if any? My guess is Galaxy S4 will drop with 4.2 or possibly even 4.1.2
Any thoughts?
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Dude, the tbolt just got ics. We get it when we get it. And I assume it's mostly Verizon's fault.
Hope that didn't come off jerky.
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They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon

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They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon
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God bless root!
I can't imagine Google is happy that less than 1% of all smart phones world wide are currently running their latest OS.
And I can't agree more.. Verizon is the problem.
I think all signs point to Google getting into the development of hardware... wouldn't it be nice to have a Google android store like Apple has the Apple stores?
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My Xperia play only had a 2.3.4 update for gingerbread while every other Verizon has ics or jb , glad I unlocked and rooted my phone Verizon sux in terms of updates for phones but their coverage is decent
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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I LOVE touch wiz motion controls and general UI on top of the android OS.
It just kills me that Verizon doesn't at least keep each companies “flagship devices" (ie SGS3) up to date.
It's a big FU to all of us
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Whatever the aosp release is at is basically a beta in everything but name. Its deployed to a small group of rather technical users where issues can be ironed out. Then months later everyone else gets the carrier's and manufacturer's refinements/adulteration of android. And repeat.
If you want to be in he new release club you need a Nexus or phone that's popular but long in the tooth so the hardware is pretty much mastered. If you buy a non nexus phone you sign up knowing full well that you are at the mercy of a 3rd party. This isn't 2010 anymore . the pattern is well established.
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GoonAssJuan said:
But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol

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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol
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Exactly! Lol
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The x phone will be the first with klp. And if moto is allowed to do anything to that phone and put some gay layout on it because its not a nexus device I will not buy it. I'm sick of Verizon and im leaving them on may 15th. The galaxy nexus was the biggest disappointment in my eyes. (Nexus phone that Verizon withheld every update and various awesome accessories)
At least the s3 wasn't promising continuous updates, wireless docks and so on
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Verizon is a member of the Open Handset Alliance. One of the founding members, I believe...
Hard to believe, based on their behavior.
When the Hell will they get it through their heads that they really don't need to be involved with much? I pay Verizon to provide a network (and ONLY a network), not hold my hand. I mean, really? Could a phone really harm their network if it hadn't passed through their approval and bloatware installation processes?
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.

mentose457 said:
There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.
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Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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mentose457 said:
There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that..
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My phone is running 4.2
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bajasur said:
Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
Oh, and yes, they do it in order to sell more phones. But, can you blame them? Samsung is doing everything they can to stamp Apple out. That means releasing a flagship phone that will be the first of that manufacturer to launch with the newest software version.
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TXI Kaze said:
I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
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Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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Haha, yeah. I just didn't want to come across negative. thanks for being understanding. I do understand your frustrations. I don't see 5.0 dropping for awhile. Google said its going to slow down a bit in their releases because Jellybean is beautiful. It brought fluidity to a "fragmented" market and while only two phones officially have 4.2, jellybean is gaining a share of the updates. I think it and ICS almost comprise 50% of the market share for Android versions which is amazing in my opinion.
You know what I'd love? I'd love for the Galaxy S IV to use the new graphine dipped batteries. Can you imagine that with 2gb of RAM and just a revisioned Exynos Quad Core? It could run at a constant 1.0ghz minimum on each core with the screen on so that multitasking would be beautifully smooth and would be easier on battery life since tasks could start and end quickly. But, anyway, If Google is going to go directly into hardware they'd have a good start. I'd love a Nexus phone to rock a MAXX battery and a 1080p AMOLED. If I recall the new AMOLED that will be in the GS4 uses 25% less battery. The combination would be ermahgerd.
Also, didn't Samsung already try another OS? pretty sure Bada didn't do too well lol.
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One can only dream!
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Anyone moving to the Galaxy S4???

Hey, so after 2 years I will be moving to the S4, I was just wondering if any of u were coming with me?

i might move to the note 3 when it comes out

I've looked at it but decided it to be overly expensive. It's around $700 unlocked (probably grey market no warranty), just too much for a phone especially when my SGS4G still operating just fine. I did some calculations for "subsidized" phones with plans, but they can be even more expensive, around $800 over 2-year contract. I did the comparison with a $45 single line unlimited everything StarightTalk service, final cost over 24 months.
There are rumors that Nexus 4 LTE will be announced in few days during Google I/O, I'll wait to see what comes from that.

Yeah... my brother's getting a SGS4 (moving off of his old Nexus One or something else similarly painful) but my SGS4G is still doing well, albeit chomping through batteries on an increasing pace. May join you eventually, but for now... Eh, our devs are awesome.

I will be as soon as my contract ends this month. I will just keep my sgs4g as a back up but it will be nice to finally have a freakin LED flash lol
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Yea I will too! Actually, I already did! ;D its so freaking EPIC!! And the screen...so beautiful. If u are moving phones, u won't be disappointed. I am gonna miss this forum tho...the SGS4G was my first smartphone. And the community will never be the same as this one. It has been a great 2 years with the SGS4G. Thanks to everyone who made it an awesome phone and I hope development keeps on going forward. I'll still visit every once in a while though just to see how things are doing.

My phone got washed in the washing machine by accident 2 days ago, so I went to Tmobile and got the new s4 today.
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I don't know how many of you have heard this rumor but supposedly there will be a Galaxy S4 version running stock AOSP. It's supposed to be announced tomorrow at Google I/O. If they price it the same as the Nexus 4, I'm getting the S4 Google Edition instead. I'm in need of a new phone.
http://www.geek.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition-to-be-announced-at-google-io-1555174/
New phone means that I don't need my SGS4G to be operational, which means that I will be doing a lot of deving on it this summer. !

Yes, I saw that rumor. Will it be less expensive than the Samsung S4 version?
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Yes, I saw that rumor. Will it be less expensive than the Samsung S4 version?
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Hopefully we'll know later today... . I'm so stoked I'm actually programming for the sgs4g!

My guess if Google really moved from LG to Samsung with their Nexus phone it will not be exactly the same as S4. Most probably it will not have MicroSD, the battery will not be easily swappable, and I doubt they install FullHD screen to keep the price low enough to match the Nexus line. But we'll see, still may become a good choice.

Well, it is confirmed today with a starting price of $649 for the 16gb version.
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For an unlocked off contract phone that's not that bad. However, those of you that have the ATT S4 should just wait for the Google model to drop. That ROM should be a pretty easy port to the ATT version.

S4 on sale at att(preowned)

The s4 is currently on sale at att online only for 29.99. The lady on the phone gave me an early upgrade+free overnight for it. http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung/galaxy-s-4-16gb-black-mist-refurb.html

If you cancel early, might be a good way to get a S4 somewhat cheap. Nothing will beat the 50% glitch that happened last month though.

Its refurb though meh :/ I know theyre perfectly fine...but just the thought of refurb...idk it sketches me out lol
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Its refurb though meh :/ I know theyre perfectly fine...but just the thought of refurb...idk it sketches me out lol
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I have a refurb one in black no issues at all it's like if i bought it new and they do look brand new as well been on it for a week and a half and no issues whats so ever very stable stock to bad it came with MF3 on it already, but it's worth buying it!

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I have a refurb one in black no issues at all it's like if i bought it new and they do look brand new as well been on it for a week and a half and no issues whats so ever very stable stock to bad it came with MF3 on it already!
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Yeah I know they are fine...and I really have nothing to worry about...its just an unjustified fear I have ahaha
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I just added a line and got one for my wife, I'll sell her S3 and use that money to buy out her first line. Total money spent $30, S3 will sell for $200, buying out other line $82. Money leftover for case, screen protector and activation fee...$85ish. Money well spent. Thanks OP! Btw I think I got the last one lol, says out of stock now that I placed my order..oops!
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Just ordered one last night. Getting in Friday. Excitedddddddd. Now I have a note 2 to sell and I'm going to cancel my line after one month. Sweeeet
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I just ordered one as well. I was really trying to see what kind of deposit I thought I'd have to pay. They've always asked me for one. I was surprised & they approved me this time. I even got an iPhone 4 w/ 8 Gig for .99 cents.

I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.

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I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.
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Stfu

pham818 said:
Stfu
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Heh, no need to get your panties in a bunch. It's called an opinion. Learn to deal with it.

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I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.
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I also came from a nexus s... Mine was the sprint ns4g variant. Haven't looked back. It was a total night and day difference between the phones. My ns4g has been reduced to a bare bones cm7.1 mp3 player.
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Heh, no need to get your panties in a bunch. It's called an opinion. Learn to deal with it.
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An opinion is one thing, but dont bad mouth the community. There are developers busting their asses working on roms for free, show some respect. Or better yet learn to do something yourself
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An opinion is one thing, but dont bad mouth the community. There are developers busting their asses working on roms for free, show some respect. Or better yet learn to do something yourself
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I see, you seem to think I was talking about the community. I wasn't. I was badmouthing Samsung. In regards to the community, I was simply stating the current situation of things. The community support for this phone, in which there's not much going on, is a result of Samsung's and the carriers' doing.
I'm not sure how what I said could be misinterpreted to mean I'm bad-mouthing any entity other than Samsung. Calm down, read, and stop looking for something negative.

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I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.
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Maybe if you sold it now...the s4s are going for 450-500 right now..mby the time the next exus comes out...prob gonna be 300-350 depending on condition...technology loses value fast...especially androids due to new and better devices constantly being released...keep that in mind
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Maybe if you sold it now...the s4s are going for 450-500 right now..mby the time the next exus comes out...prob gonna be 300-350 depending on condition...technology loses value fast...especially androids due to new and better devices constantly being released...keep that in mind
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Well the s3 gsm versions are still selling for $300 and up used. It should still hold its value at least until the s5 or whatever comes out.
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Maybe if you sold it now...the s4s are going for 450-500 right now..mby the time the next exus comes out...prob gonna be 300-350 depending on condition...technology loses value fast...especially androids due to new and better devices constantly being released...keep that in mind
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Just sold my skyrocket for $220 on eBay. I'd say that held value pretty well. Listing my wife's S3 today, that should sell for $250+, and I really only need it to sell for $200 in order for her S4 to be completely free including activation.
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Decepticaons said:
Just sold my skyrocket for $220 on eBay. I'd say that held value pretty well. Listing my wife's S3 today, that should sell for $250+, and I really only need it to sell for $200 in order for her S4 to be completely free including activation.
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$220 for your Skyrocket? That's good to know. ATT was willing to give $55 credit those cheap mofos.
My S4 is coming Monday but I'm not sure I can part w/ my Skyrocket

Locoman_ said:
$220 for your Skyrocket? That's good to know. ATT was willing to give $55 credit those cheap mofos.
My S4 is coming Monday but I'm not sure I can part w/ my Skyrocket
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Yup, but it did sell with 2 cases plus 2 extra batteries. But still, I didn't expect that much. It was hard for me to part with my skyrocket as well, but wifey said sell it or no S4 lol. Out of respect I agreed. I don't regret it, I love my S4. I also got offered $55, and I told them I could sell it as a paperweight for that price.
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My refurbished isn't MF3!
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