Poor Nexus S Sales Figures = Delayed N1 Gingerbread ? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone seen any sales numbers on the Nexus S yet ?
If they were flying off the shelf I'd think we'd have seen some press on it by now.
I'm guessing the sales figures are underwhelming.
Maybe thats why the Nexus One is still lonely for Gingerbread ?

Not sure what the sales figures are, but until this past Sunday - it had not been advertised in the Best Buy flyer (here in Denver CO.). So maybe now, sales will pick up some - since they're finally starting to advertise it...?
P.S. Must not have done too bad in sales, wasn't it back-ordered last week?

Its advertised all over the internet... Google ads have nexus s all over them.
Gingerbread for the nexus one is out and modded.

leyvatron said:
Gingerbread for the nexus one is out and modded.
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Really? I see a lot of hybrid and 0.x level ROMs based on AOSP code, but nothing official from Google.
What am I missing?

going_home said:
Anyone seen any sales numbers on the Nexus S yet ?
If they were flying off the shelf I'd think we'd have seen some press on it by now.
I'm guessing the sales figures are underwhelming.
Maybe thats why the Nexus One is still lonely for Gingerbread ?
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Multiple Best Buy employees told me that when they checked the stock from local stores that all stores in and around Houston Texas were told out in 24 hours. I had to drive 2 hours across town to get the last one from a small town outside of Houston. People in Europe were saying similar things when the Nexus S was released on December 22nd.
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isjr said:
Multiple Best Buy employees told me that when they checked the stock from local stores that all stores in and around Houston Texas were told out in 24 hours. I had to drive 2 hours across town to get the last one from a small town outside of Houston. People in Europe were saying similar things when the Nexus S was released on December 22nd.
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It's hard to deduce real meaning from that kind of anecdotal evidence.
Yeah, stores sold out fast, and in the past we'd have said that meant that the sales exceeded expectations (a good thing), but now part of the marketing campaign on many products is false shortages to artificially create a sense of demand. They only release part of what they expect to actually sell into the retail chain the first week or two to keep the item interesting. Look at the Nexus One, EVO 4G, a couple of the iPhone models, the iPad, etc - all of them sold out the first day or two. Are the planners really that conservative/wrong in their sales forecasts, or are they just playing marketing games?
Until we see some actual numbers there's really no way to know how many of the devices were sold, and whether it's a disappointing number or not.

isjr said:
Multiple Best Buy employees told me that when they checked the stock from local stores that all stores in and around Houston Texas were told out in 24 hours. I had to drive 2 hours across town to get the last one from a small town outside of Houston. People in Europe were saying similar things when the Nexus S was released on December 22nd.
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Most Best Buys in this area had like 4 or 5 of them.
Only one store was actually a T-Mobile dealer and they had 70.
So based on almost none in stock, its easy to see how they could
easily be sold out.
Honestly though, Google made a niche phone that the average phone
buyer wont buy.
Even many N1 owners arent buying it.
Is it maybe that the N1 owners expected a major upgrade from their current
phone, and thats certainly not the case at all.
I know I was underwhelmed by the NS and returned it after a week.
The MT4G is definitely a faster phone, and yes the 4G is in the area.

If nexus one ROM really is being purposely delayed, when it does finally come out it better be solid as a rock with all the extra testing time they get.

Hate to be devil's advocate, but really, Google is no longer obligated to update the Nexus One. Therefore, they'll get to it when they get to it.

I am a Nexus One user and I picked up the Nexus S from my local Best Buy about a week ago. It was interesting to me that there was no in-store signage or promotion. As I was waiting for the guy that was helping me to check to see if they had the phone back in stock - ("we were sold out" ) Two other people walked up and asked about the same phone.
I started chatting with them and neither one had previously used an Android device. Both had seen the phone advertised online and thought it looked like a cool phone. I finished up first and left with my phone but I think they both were buying the device as well.
The Best Buy employee I was dealing with said they weren't getting a lot of stock but they were quickly selling out of what they were getting in FWIW.

Best Buy in Northgate - Seattle had huge shelf full of Nexus S. After a few hours on Dec 16, half was gone. I know they eventually sold every single phone since a week later they were out. Had to drive up north to Alderwood to pick up a replacement and even there the stock was limited. So i am guessing the phone sold ok.

BlackOtaku said:
Hate to be devil's advocate, but really, Google is no longer obligated to update the Nexus One. Therefore, they'll get to it when they get to it.
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Well, it never was obligated.

rjdaly28 said:
I am a Nexus One user and I picked up the Nexus S from my local Best Buy about a week ago. It was interesting to me that there was no in-store signage or promotion. As I was waiting for the guy that was helping me to check to see if they had the phone back in stock - ("we were sold out" ) Two other people walked up and asked about the same phone.
I started chatting with them and neither one had previously used an Android device. Both had seen the phone advertised online and thought it looked like a cool phone. I finished up first and left with my phone but I think they both were buying the device as well.
The Best Buy employee I was dealing with said they weren't getting a lot of stock but they were quickly selling out of what they were getting in FWIW.
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Best Buy Mobile in Woodfield mall had signs promoting the Nexus S, and when I went in for an exchange, they had a working demo unit kinda like how apple has their iPhones and iPads at their stores.

Nexus phones aren't really about sales they are about setting an example of what an android phone should be. How many phones had 1ghz processors before the Nexus One. Google forced manufacturers to stop making phones that had only weak processors. Manufacturers are only in it for the money and they don't care how bad they make android look, there are a lot of people who say android sucks because they used to own a backflip for example. I think the Nexus S is going to sell a lot more than the Nexus One because after 12 months I only knew of one other person who had one and I bought it for him (he paid me back). In the first week I have already seen or talked to people who know other people that have bought it. It will never sell a lot though not like the Evo or Mytouch, it is not all over TV or carrier approved, they would never let you get away with free tethering.
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robstunner said:
Best Buy Mobile in Woodfield mall had signs promoting the Nexus S, and when I went in for an exchange, they had a working demo unit kinda like how apple has their iPhones and iPads at their stores.
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Yeah the small town where I got mine had a big sign above checkout counter and the Best Buy next to my house had a bigger sign, free pamphlets, and a demo unit.
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I checked 2 smaller best buys in Wisconsin in smaller towns ~30-50k people and both stores had stock and didn't seem to run out.

BlackOtaku said:
Hate to be devil's advocate, but really, Google is no longer obligated to update the Nexus One. Therefore, they'll get to it when they get to it.
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didnt the G1 get updates for close to 2 full years until they retired it? yeah, i'm pretty sure the nexus one has plenty of life left in it lol...

RogerPodacter said:
didnt the G1 get updates for close to 2 full years until they retired it? yeah, i'm pretty sure the nexus one has plenty of life left in it lol...
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Not saying they won't update it or shouldn't. Just that Google can take their time with it.

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[Q] Who will go to bestbuy to get NS on Thursday?

I don't mind I go there then to see is it available because I have class in the afternoon.
Hopefully the store (either Bay Parkway, Brooklyn or 23rd Street, Manhattan) will let me to mess around the phone before buying it instead of returning it later.
I'll pay in full ($530 + tax) because I have "unlocked phone plan" (EM+).
i'll go pick one up @ the soho bestbuy w/o contract on thursday morning before i go to work
I want to get it too unlocked.. but I want yo know if the community will be large like nexuss one or evo
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I will be at BestBuy an hour before they open to beat that one other person that may be there, but yup ill get one
Hope you guys will release the system dump
I'll stop by a BestBuy on thursday to look at the Nexus S for sure.
Got a Nexus One atm so its not an emergency to upgrade.
Ill be buying one only cuz i lost my N1 recently due to being extremly drunk. but have to wait for AT&t/Rogers one if it ever comes out.
waiting paitianly with my HTC Dream.
if i have to wait much longer with this slow ass device i might have to shoot myself.
I will be buying it on day one
i'll be on vacation, but i look forward to seeing all you guys talk about it. (^_^)
I'm going to dive in. The N1 is getting retired from daily use.
I told myself that i would never ever get rid of my N1 but honestly with the market for N1's as it is right now It be stupid not to sell, i got a good price for it
And its better to get rid of it now while the market is high and the next installment is on its way
Who else sold there baby to get the NS?
I will be selling my vibrant for the nexus S not much of an upgrade, but I really like the slight hardware design change and the software (pure android, + ext4fs)
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I'm selling my Nexus 1 to get the S.
I work Thursday at 10am so hopefully I can snag a Nexus S before work.
I will hit the Best Buy at 86th st in Manhattan and pick mine up on Thursday, probably right when they open.
I'm selling my HTC Desire and yes I will be there on day 1.
I have a Best Buy right across the street from work.
I'll be there when they open.
Star date, 12/16 2010. 8am, you know where to find me.
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I'm selling my HTC Desire and yes I will be there on day 1.
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You won't wait for an AT&T variant?
I want to get it on day one, but with my Nexus One I learned my lesson the hard way. Hopefully Samsung hid the AT&T 3G bands on the chip like they did with the T-Mobile Vibrant.
I'll be at the local Best Buy at 8am to pick up two Nexus S'eses.
"Give me six Schlitzeses"
I may get it, but wanna wait a few days for the real reviews.

Official Verizon Iphone

well it finally happened. not giving up android for anything though. See for yourself.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/iphone.jsp
im surprised im the only one that really posted about this
Well, gee let's see:
1) last year's hardware with a different antenna
2) stuck on a CDMA network (while 98% of the world use GSM) that doesn't allow simultaneous voice and data
3) its only mentionable software is the app store (grandma loves playing with those games)
I don't blame people here from not talking about it..
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Well, gee let's see:
1) last year's hardware with a different antenna
2) stuck on a CDMA network (while 98% of the world use GSM) that doesn't allow simultaneous voice and data
3) its only mentionable software is the app store (grandma loves playing with those games)
I don't blame people here from not talking about it..
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1) The phone is less than 7 months old
2) Totally agree here, but then again most Verizon phones are CDMA only
3) The app store, agree with me or not, has some awesome apps in it and is still ahead of Android as far as searching/sifting through the crap goes.
Anywho, I will continue using my HD2 with NAND Android
I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network, what is the harm in waiting 4 more months to get the newest one. I know it isn't a guarantee Verizon will get the iPhone5 in June but its hard to see why they wouldn't.
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I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network, what is the harm in waiting 4 more months to get the newest one. I know it isn't a guarantee Verizon will get the iPhone5 in June but its hard to see why they wouldn't.
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My guess would be that the iPhone "5" will really be just a "4S", slight speed boost, maybe more storage, nothing to write home about though. Then next year when the 5 comes out Verizon and AT&T will both get handsets at the same time, in June.
Plus, realize that average customers don't know/care about release schedules. If they did, 6 months after the iPhone is released 0 would sell, which obviously isn't the case. Not everyone chases the latest and greatest devices like we do
if a five comes out- it WILL be a 4s like uberamd said. It wont be worth a new device it will just be something a software update would be. honestly, i also believe that some of the verizon smart phones could best the iphone in a comparison so unless the iphone becomes somthin totally different they may lose business. Hopefully the 4g service will come to verizon sooner than later.
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1) The phone is less than 7 months old
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Yes, the phone was released 7mos ago. The available hardware (as in similar phones with similar or better specs), however, is over a year old.
I can just imagine AT&T and Verizon releasing the iPhone 4GS, AT&T's will be the exact same with HSPA+ and Verizon's will have LTE. Other than that.. no differences.
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Yes, the phone was released 7mos ago. The available hardware (as in similar phones with similar or better specs), however, is over a year old.
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Who cares about specs? Go ask anyone outside these forums who isn't a gadget geek (and by that I mean go ask 99.99% of mobile users) how many MHz the processor in their phone is, or how much RAM it has. They will stare blankly at you. Why? They don't care. What they want is a good experience, and while I may be an Android user I am also willing to admit that the iPhone 4 delivers a silky smooth user experience. From the store to the high res responsive screen, its completely smooth.
I have likely gone from iPhone to Android much more than most people in these forums so I have experienced the pros and cons of each OS. In my experiences outside of geekdom, MHz, GHz, MB of RAM, and dual cores don't matter. UX reigns supreme.
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Who cares about specs? Go ask anyone outside these forums who isn't a gadget geek (and by that I mean go ask 99.99% of mobile users) how many MHz the processor in their phone is, or how much RAM it has. They will stare blankly at you. Why? They don't care. What they want is a good experience, and while I may be an Android user I am also willing to admit that the iPhone 4 delivers a silky smooth user experience. From the store to the high res responsive screen, its completely smooth.
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The OP asked why noone on a TECH FORUM has post about it. That's because people on a TECH FORUM SUCH AS XDA already know about the specs front and back. Learn to read.
The iPhone was sick when they first came out. 3 years later it's still the same phone in a different housing. I don't think I will ever get an iPhone again. Sold my 3g for a G1 when they first came out and never looked back.
Buying one right now would be a waste if you always have to have the latest and greatest with the "4S" or whatever it's going to be called a few months away.
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The OP asked why noone on a TECH FORUM has post about it. That's because people on a TECH FORUM SUCH AS XDA already know about the specs front and back. Learn to read.
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And I was responding to you about why the age of the device is irrelevant. There is no need to respond in that way, quit being so sensitive.
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And I was responding to you about why the age of the device is irrelevant. There is no need to respond in that way, quit being so sensitive.
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And I never said anything about release date or the age of the phone, did I? I said the hardware of the phone is a year old. I'm not being sensitive, i'm just teaching you what your english teacher should've taught you in school.
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And I never said anything about release date, did I? I said the hardware of the phone is a year old. I'm not being sensitive, i'm just teaching you what your english teacher should've taught you in school.
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Well, it was about interpretation. And less than 7 months != 12, and last time I checked a year was 12 months. Just trying to teach you something you should have learned in math class (see how funny that is ).
Also, if you notice, a different user mentioned this I think it is weird for someone to buy this phone on February 10th when 4 months later Apple is MORE than likely going to release the iPhone5. If Verizon customers have been weighting years for this device to come to their network... which started the discussion about Verizon customers in general, not just ones on these forums. Your reply, and attitude, is entirely uncalled for.
So not only do you fail to read but you also get side-track from comment to comment? The available HARDWARE was announced back in January 2009 (with the introduction of the toshiba tg01). That was the starting point. Even phones with bigger screen, bigger RAM, and 1ghz CPU were already available in store at the end of 2009. So since this thread was about the Verizon iphone 4, set to be released in 2011, it'll still be using technology/hardware already available back in 2009, and for the most part, early 2010...making the hardware a year old.
So what does saying the phone is 7mos old have to do with anything I replied to the OP?
I'm starting to think that english is not your first or even second language.
I'm done. Dealing with people like you isn't even worth my time.
So, who really cares ? It's a glorified app launcher anyway. Yea, it's pretty but, it's a apple.
This model is yesterday's news, it's 7 months old (longer before it was orgnally announced) Verizon and Apple know this. Every one who is a iPhone fanboy has been *****ing about AT&T's poor network, so verizon was the answer. So every sucker will go get a iPhone 4 from Verizon that is outdated and last years model JUST TO GET a iPhone on Verizon.
So, when the iPhone 5 (or what ever the next model is called) comes out, I am sure Verizon has there hands in the jar on that one, it will come with LTE and the way it should of been. Everyone who had to have one will be on a 2 year contract so they cant' change unless they pay the $350 or full price for the phone, then the people will be locked in for more years.
I think this iPhone was a model that was just designed to get rushed out the door, sure it will work ALMOST like AT&T's device but, it's nothing new(accept on a CDMA network).
I don't have interest in one but, I have a few family members who are and I hate to see them pay full price for a device that is outdated. I would expect for a flagship device on Verizon that they would do it right.
I would of prefered them to release it done right and wile they were at it, release a few Windows phone 7 models, you know, the better phone anyway
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So not only do you fail to read but you also get side-track from comment to comment? The available HARDWARE was announced back in January 2009 (with the introduction of the toshiba tg01). That was the starting point. Even phones with bigger screen, bigger RAM, and 1ghz CPU were already available in store at the end of 2009. So since this thread was about the Verizon iphone 4, set to be released in 2011, it'll still be using technology/hardware already available back in 2009, and for the most part, early 2010...making the hardware a year old.
So what does saying the phone is 7mos old have to do with anything I replied to the OP?
I'm starting to think that english is not your first or even second language.
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Wow do you like to talk back or what cookie?
As for the iPhone. Sorry fellers. It's a sick phone. So what if the 'hardware' is old? It has a higher resolution than almost any other phone right? How is that "old"? Also the Retina is way better than this "SLCD bs". I love the Super Amoled though.
Not only this, it doesn't NEED a dual core! Or anything more than it has even. Why? Because it runs intensive 3d games! Because it is fluid and smooth! What do you expect them to do?
All it's missing is a 4g radio. And it's way too early for that anyways. Why? 10mbps isn't real 4g. 10mbps isn't worth mentioning. I get 7 on T-Mobile THREE g. I'll get a 4g phone when it's 20+. Also then iPhone 4g will be out. For both AT&T and Verizon maybe?! Maybe! Lmao.
Either way. CDMA iPhone = ... Bad ESN + Flash to Cricket. Cheapass phone cheapass plan no contract. That's what I'd do. If I wanted an iPhone. But I have an iPod Touch and I love my T-Mobile service and my Nexus S.
And what's your huge problem with the CDMA iPhone 4? Cause CDMA is "crap" or something? Lolwut? Do you have any idea how big of a company Verizon is? Why is a CDMA company so successful? Why exactly do you think Apple is selling a CDMA iPhone?
Blah whatever. Haters gonna hate. But these haters must be nervous and threatened by an iPhone that isn't on AT&T crap. Honestly, I'm glad I have the choice to have an iPhone with 3G that isn't on AT&T if I want now. Doesn't mean I like the iPhone or am going to get one. But I'm glad I have the option.
Choice is a good thing.
^ CDMA is small as hell when compared to the rest of the world.
Anyway I guarantee this iPhone will sale more than everything on the market.
Oh and every game is not silky smooth on the iPhone. They crash and lag just like on Android. Do your research. Not all of them but there are some.
ugg did i start a fanboy war? dam im sorry.
well anyway i just saw what moto is releasing soon and they will be giving everything a run for their money. they have a tablet, the bionic, cliq2 and atrix. i am def getting the droidbionic.
it. is. sick.

Guys, look and the new SGS...

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So many choice phrases to say right now.
****ing mind boggling.
As a Vibrant owner (since I haven't sold mine yet) I'm kind of pissed at this. It's like they're throwing salt in the wound. Samsung throws 2.2 on that phone before the one that's currently out, gives it a FFC which it was supposed to have from the get go (the hole for it is even there on the motherboard), and makes it HSPA+ capable? Will somebody please tell them that nobody's ever going to support them again since their apparent solution to the no update problem is to sell you a slightly updated version of the exact same phone instead of bringing the existing one with the same basic hardware up to the now out of date OS that it should have had 6 months ago.
in this case.. the Nexus S must of been the sequel to the Vibrant 4G *cough* Android 2.3 *cough*
Vibrant (2.1) -> Vibrant 4G (2.2) -> Nexus S (2.3 - forever)
Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
I'm not going to fault T-Mobile for releasing a better phone 6 months later; that's become a long time in terms of hardware development. I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
The picture looks like the same form factor as the current Vibrant; so if all the rest of the stuff is the same, that tells us that our NS, or even our Vibrants, are still pretty much top of the line devices.
Since this looks to be the same build as the current Vibrant, I wonder if it will have the same creaks and groans.
Since they've changed the radio chip (to support 21Mbs) I also wonder if it will still have the AT&T 1900Mhz 3G band support like the current Vibrant.
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Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Vibrant released on July 15th of 2010.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
i dont wanna be a douche-er here, but, why isnt this in the vibrant forum?
Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Its how tech works, thats like me saying Nvidia shouldnt have created a GTX580 because i just bought a GTX480....how dare they!
Galaxy S2 will be revealed in February: Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-mobile-boss-confirms-galaxy-s-successor-galaxy-tab-road/
Considering these phones will likely get enough developer support to see ports of any and all new iterations of Android released from Google (which usually end up being better and more feature-rich than stock anyway); considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting); considering bloatware doesn't *really* do any harm; and considering Google only releases two major updates a year to the current Nexus phone, it makes me reconsider my position and the worth of the Nexus line.
Everyone will have different preferences, of course, but a lot of me wishes Google would directly challenge Apple with a "Google Experience" phone that isn't meant only to appease developers. In other words, a phone that does compete hardware wise, that does have a more uniformed OS experience that would cater to average-users, while retaining the customizable options and variety that sets the Android experience apart from iOS. That wouldn't sound bad at all.
Perhaps I just got the wrong phone, or perhaps I'm finding out Android isn't for me. Unfortunately, i don't agree with Apple's "the average user is an idiot" philosophy either. For what it's worth, I'm just thinking out loud.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Please check your facts before correcting people.
The Vibrant's official release date was supposed to be July 21, 2010, but looks like it came out a week early though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#In_the_United_States
Let's see, August, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan...that's 6 months right there, and by the time this new Vibrant Plus comes out (next month, maybe later) it will be 7-8 months or more. There's no announced release date yet that I've seen.
Also, I know we're talking about the T-Mo Vibrant, but it's only a slight variant of the original i9000. I have owned both, and even disassembled both. They both use the same display, touchscreen, same cpu, same gpu, same just about everything internally except the radio and the capacitive buttons. You can even put the i9000 FFC into a Vibrant by just removing some paint, and I've place the Vibrant's speaker assembly into an i9000.
My point was that the basic technology of the ENTIRE Galaxy S line of phones is almost a year old now. The i9000 was demo'd in April 2010, and available for purchase in June 2010. In the phone world, 9-12 months is a very long time...they need to provide something new and exciting to sell more phones, and a 21Mbs radio probably fits that bill.
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
Hey guys come on it's a "customer favourite"
If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
Why didn't the nexus s have the hspa+ and I feel like everyone that got the vibrant just got screwed.
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
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Agreed. Makes sense when you put it like that
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Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
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Yeah I agree. It reminds me of when the Nexus One came out and set a standard for smartphones and looked really classy which caused alot of people to become loyal followers.
I wonder how long Apples loyalty will last if they don't set a new standard like they did with the iPhone 4 and you have a bunch of crazy Android phones (Atrix, Bionic, Optimus, etc) breathing down their neck?
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And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
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Good point I agree.
Cash for non-subsidized iPhone 4? wow
No one is forcing you to buy it, just wait.
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If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
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Wow if that's true then Samsung are some eeeeeeeeeeeevil mf'ers
Good find there dloop thanks for posting
Wonder if Samsung is the one telling Google not to give us N1 owners gingerbread as well... :angry:
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considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting);
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There is no way that removing touchwiz is easy, and when i left the Captivate, (about a month ago now) there still wasn't a rom that had it 100% removed.

AT&T selling out of One X online already?

Saw this little blurb on HTCpedia can honestly say that I'm not too surprised. This phone is beyond awesome...
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Some AT&T users who are looking for the HTC One X are getting some bad news from the AT&T online store. AT&T is currently out of stock on the HTC One X at their online store. I knew that the HTC was selling good, not that good.
The HTC One X's only real competition that is available to purchase right now is.... nothing. Okay, there is one smartphone that can compete with the HTC One X right at this moment and it is the HTC One S.
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http://htcpedia.com/news/Want-A-HTC-One-X-Out-Of-Stock-At-ATT-Online.html
Wow.
Yeah, I noticed it yesterday when I was looking for accessories on AT&T's website. AC has an article too:
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-out-stock-online
I hoping they just sold out and there isn't an issue with the initial batch of phones.
Well lets just say a few days ago I was at target and the lady said they sold out so fast she never even had time to replace the plaque that had the "coming soon" shown in front of phone. So she just left it there since she couldn't keep them in stock.
Yesterday I went to look online to see which best buy had this phone in stock for a friend of mine, and out of the nearest 10 best buys around me, they were all sold out.
I think this phone even with its relatively low press coverage compared to phones like Tmobile's One S is doing really well.
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Well lets just say a few days ago I was at target and the lady said they sold out so fast she never even had time to replace the plaque that had the "coming soon" shown in front of phone. So she just left it there since she couldn't keep them in stock.
Yesterday I went to look online to see which best buy had this phone in stock for a friend of mine, and out of the nearest 10 best buys around me, they were all sold out.
I think this phone even with its relatively low press coverage compared to phones like Tmobile's One S is doing really well.
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Yeah, I've been checking stock elsewhere and it seems it has just been doing really well. I'm glad I went and got it when I did.
just picked mine up today just come to vermont lol
I bought mine and got lucky that I looked at it and the guy set it aside for me till launch day. Only had 2 in the store and the other was pre-ordered.
I talked to him the other day and he said people keep coming in for one.
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just picked mine up today just come to vermont lol
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Yeah, I might do that. I hear Vermont has jobs as well.
I've been meaning to exchange my grey for a white HOX and all the stores I called are OOS
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Yeah, I might do that. I hear Vermont has jobs as well.
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LOL
I went to an AT&T store in downtown Washington DC the next day the One X was released ( I believe it was a Monday) and they were sold out.
It's more likely they've been taken off the shelf to push the new update that fixes WiFi and messaging.
I really doubt the phone is selling out. When I picked mine up they told me I was the first person to buy it. Sadly, all the other customers were just there for iPhones.
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I went to 5 different AT&T stores yesterday trying to find a white one. Every store said the phone has been selling like crazy. Every rep I talked to was interested in the phone and wanted to buy one for personal use.
I'm glad to see this phone selling well, it definitely deserves it.
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I went to 5 different AT&T stores yesterday trying to find a white one. Every store said the phone has been selling like crazy. Every rep I talked to was interested in the phone and wanted to buy one for personal use.
I'm glad to see this phone selling well, it definitely deserves it.
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+1
I've been to many brick-n-mortars (AT&T, Radioshack, Best Buy) looking for accessories and all the employees were asking me about it. Employees at stores that don't have "live" models on display, like RS and BB, even wanted to check my HOX out.
It's a great phone. My local store had them in stock on release day. I was in yesterday for a swap, and they still had a couple available. Even in MS this is a popular phone.
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It's more likely they've been taken off the shelf to push the new update that fixes WiFi and messaging.
I really doubt the phone is selling out. When I picked mine up they told me I was the first person to buy it. Sadly, all the other customers were just there for iPhones.
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On a scale of 1-10, how hard did we get screwed by LG?

If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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I'd actually rate it as a screwing of 10. The awesome quality of roms, updates and patches that the developers here have provided doesn't change the fact that LGE ****ed us over. I made A LOT of noise about this to Wind Mobile here in Canada early on because I didn't quite understand that it wasn't the carrier holding me back (Wind's P999 is still officially on Froyo if I'm not mistaken ... I installed CM7 immediately so I don't know if one update ever made it out).
Nothing but love for everyone here who tried to squeeze some additional life out of this device. Hell, if giveen manages to get the radio working (others have tried previously) then I'd say the G2x can once again be a half decent phone.
It's truly a shame that a vendor as large as LG would treat a community of consumers so poorly. Never again LG, never again ...
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
I don't think they screwed us that bad. From the get go lots of people had issues with this phone and chances are they have a new phone by now. I've had mine for 2 1/2 years now. Its the only phone I've been able to keep. Yes a working ics would be awesome but when I bought the phone I had no idea what any of that was lol. I played w/ a nexus4 and even though it was cool didn't feel the need to spend all that money for features I wouldn't use. Everything I need to do I can do on this phone. So on a scale of 1-10 I would give a 5 only because they screwed alot of people from the get go.
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Its all because of the tegra 2 chip, it was no longer supported by them...although samsung still does which is odd and awesome :0 stupid LG... if it had a qualcomm chipset it would still be have support from LG therefore never buy tegra devices lmao:silly:
10! Terribly mishandled by lg and they wiped their hands clean and pretended phone never existed. Backlight bleeding, major software issues even on gingerbread, yea we all know the potential it had but oh well. Ran with it for two years and glad to have left this junk phone behind
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I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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Yeah, I am pretty disappointed myself. I came in here thinking that it would be a snap but I ended up stuck just as everyone else.
Its always proprietary files that are the issue.
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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I'm pretty sure it is LG though. If LG doesn't release updates to the carriers, the carriers can't spend months and months injecting bloatware into those updates before releasing them to us. the suckers ...er customers.
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It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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Nexus 4 is boss . I love this phone. Won't need to get the n5 anytime soon .
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
i would give a 9 for my experience with LG. within months the headphone jack went bad and would barely hold the plug, the usb port is crappy, and sometimes wouldn't charge properly (both were denied under warrenty. The lack of updates is the biggest issues. The only reason this phone had life is because of the Hard work of modders then they went and fudged all that with the new base band update that broke the Bluetooth for modded phones.
At the time this was suppose to be their flagship phone, it was also the beefiest and fastest phone on the market, I was told like may others it will be updated only to get nothing out of it. Worse is that they allowed and branded it incorrectly in the Canadian Market.
I'll give it a point since it was built like a brick, i have dropped it so many times (after the aforementioned issues) and it still kept chugging for just over 2 years, eventually the screen went weird and acted like someone was constantly tapping it so i swapped it with an S4, a phone i know for sure will be supported and i can actually find proper accessories for it. The price point of the Nexus 5 is temping for sure, but when i check most cell phone stores in my area They carry mainly iphone and samsung accessories, which make up over 80% of the stock in some stores. This goes to show the popularity of the phones
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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The original premise of Wind was no contracts, you buy a phone from them full price, choose a plan, choose a payment option (pre or post paid) and done. People wanted subsidized phones so they brought out the Wind tab. Here you are paying for the phone AFTER you used it not before, there are still no extra fees for it if you want to leave early. And it's 24 months, never has it been 36 months. In the end you are still buying the phone and used it for quite some time now, except now for you it's $290 vs $350, you still saved money I don't get how It's not worth it?
Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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This was more of a gangbang situation. Lg got some, nvidia got some, and T-Mobile got a piece too. And if you're unfortunate enough to be screwed by wind they seem even more despicable still! Wind definitely deserves a 10.
Lg 8 for putting this particular modem on this particular phone.
Nvidia 4 for being present lol
T-mobile 5 for acting like this phone was the poop and then tossing it like a dirty diaper.
On the brighter side a lot of us are reaching the end of the line with this thing and if nothing else it's been a great learning experience. This phone is so picky about kernels and settings and charging that we've had to become super disciplined about how we treat our phone or else it burns your nightstand. Plus having witnessed the long and frustrating journey of many devs pushing this phone just a little further each time has definitely enlightened me on how hard these guys work for something we all profit from. Holy crap this post got long! My bad. Carry on.
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Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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Granted but he shouldn't really be complaining about the price of a phone he bought a year ago and using all this time, he should pay the price of when he started using it, not how much it's worth a year later, it's really just a selfish attitude

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