TasKiller by AxDroid LLC or Advanced Task Killer by ReChild? Simple as that
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None. Android has its own memory management system that works excellently which gives task killers no use.
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You're right but I think it's not enough for devices with low memory. I use ES TaskManager since I have the phone and it makes it faster
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TasKiller by AxDroid LLC or Advanced Task Killer by ReChild? Simple as that
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Neither, period, don't use 'em. If you need to kill a single app, use whatever, do not use auto task killers.
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Neither, period, don't use 'em. If you need to kill a single app, use whatever, do not use auto task killers.
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Just a quick question, what are your bold negative views on auto task killers?
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None. Android has its own memory management system that works excellently which gives task killers no use.
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Neither, period, don't use 'em. If you need to kill a single app, use whatever, do not use auto task killers.
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These.
If anything, only use Task Killers for rogue applications that are putting too much load on your CPU and draining your battery, not for "Oh hey lets kill everything in this window so it goes fast."
The majority of everything you kill is going to come back anyway, and it's going to have to start from scratch, which in the long run is going to demolish your battery. Avoid Task Killers unless you use it for the right reasons. If anything, just use Watchdog Lite. It serves that purpose.
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These.
If anything, only use Task Killers for rogue applications that are putting too much load on your CPU and draining your battery, not for "Oh hey lets kill everything in this window so it goes fast."
The majority of everything you kill is going to come back anyway, and it's going to have to start from scratch, which in the long run is going to demolish your battery. Avoid Task Killers unless you use it for the right reasons. If anything, just use Watchdog Lite. It serves that purpose.
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If you're rooted, you can use an app like MinfreeManager. It gives you more control over Android's memory management.
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There are 2 top task managing apps rite now
Task Killer by ReChild
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TasKiller free by Thibaut Nicolas.
wanted to know which one u guys prefer.
i liked the Task Killer by ReChild....as it is easier to use..and more intuitive.
Not everyone will subscribe to what I'm about to say (type!) but.. I've stopped using task managers altogether now and I'm finding that the phone runs smoother and better without them... and it's using less battery too.
do some task managers cause programs to crash or stop working randomly?
my handcent and messaging were crashing
Nocturnal310 said:
There are 2 top task managing apps rite now
Task Killer by ReChild
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TasKiller free by Thibaut Nicolas.
wanted to know which one u guys prefer.
i liked the Task Killer by ReChild....as it is easier to use..and more intuitive.
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I have task killer by ReChild aswell and no just go into the app and ignore the ones you dont to be killed.
Try System Panel (beta) it works well really well - search for it on the market.
I have tried Advanced Task Killer and for me the best is Task Manager, the one that has green droid on the icon and red circle with X inside it Altough, as time goes my RAM goes from 140 Mb to 80 or less, Im guessing that Timescape eats the memory as it updates because he is on my ignore list with few other programs.
Advance Task Manager is the best for my opinion...because my phone has 178 ram free now and has auto shutdown application and its more faster..
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Not everyone will subscribe to what I'm about to say (type!) but.. I've stopped using task managers altogether now and I'm finding that the phone runs smoother and better without them... and it's using less battery too.
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I'm with you, every task manager ive tried either uses more battery than it saves or kills things that you really dont want it to.
If i need to kill something I now use the force stop option under applications in the settings. Astro also has a nice process manager that shows cpu usage and allows you to kill off individual processes.
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Advance Task Manager is the best for my opinion...because my phone has 178 ram free now and has auto shutdown application and its more faster..
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What is on your ignore list ? I have Nimbuzz, Messages, Timescape, Weather and Facebook and on fresh start I have 150 Mb but with time it gets to 80 Mb...there is no way that you can have 178 Mb whole day and that some services are working in background. Or am I doing something wrong ?
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why are you worried about how much free ram you have? Have you ever actually experienced a situation where an app complained about not having enough memory?
Why not just let android worry about using the free memory in the best way it can. If an App needs more memory Android can always dump some of the stuff that is not important anyway.
Try to use Advance Task Manager and tell me then how much free memory you have...
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TaskOS was really awesome, then there was this update and now it sucks
Task Managers are only needed by pseudo multitasking phones/OS's such as Windows.
Linux/Android take care of their own memory management and so do not need task killers, in fact on Android they do more harm than good as they kill processes that you really do want to be running or at least resident in memory. It will slow your phone down and drain power if Android needs to keep restarting it's monitoring processes (eg. battery monitor, clock, alarm etc...) because the user keeps killing it with a task manager.
Also, just because an application is resident in the kernel does not mean it is being used, using any resources, stealing any resources or memory from anything else. If a new application start and Android needs the memory, it will take it !
^ Yeah, I stopped using a task manager a few weeks ago, and think my battery life has actually improved since doing so.
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Not everyone will subscribe to what I'm about to say (type!) but.. I've stopped using task managers altogether now and I'm finding that the phone runs smoother and better without them... and it's using less battery too.
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I'm with you, every task manager ive tried either uses more battery than it saves or kills things that you really dont want it to.
If i need to kill something I now use the force stop option under applications in the settings. Astro also has a nice process manager that shows cpu usage and allows you to kill off individual processes.
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yep.... Astro is cool.... and now the phone is much smoother and battery life has improved....
I have been using advanced task killer, but will look into some of the alternatives suggested here.
Even if a task manager doesn't improve performance, I can't do without one. I just gotta know what is running in the background.
P.S. Why is this forum such a PIA for new users?
Phantasm4489 said:
why are you worried about how much free ram you have? Have you ever actually experienced a situation where an app complained about not having enough memory?
Why not just let android worry about using the free memory in the best way it can. If an App needs more memory Android can always dump some of the stuff that is not important anyway.
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I think the main point is people are trying to work out ways of increasing their battery life.
Good topic.
well i use advanced task killer by rechild, i decided to leave it closed all day today and let tye os do its thing. while i agree android can easily allocate the ram, in just 5 hours without task kill my battery drained to 68%, normally itd be around 88%ish. so my vote goes to task kill for better batt life...
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X10 Have Built in Application running in background call Wiper App (com.qualcomm.wiper.apk)
Can any expert tell me is this file works as task-manager in the system?
Hi all.
Is there any app\way to use something like this:
When we access the normal 'task manager'\'view running apps' (if you press the middle button of X10), if we long press the app we want, have the option to kill it ?
Cheers!
K... I'm new to android (from iPhone) and I just bought the mt4g... I downloaded the advanced task killer, but every time I "kill" the apps, there are 10 more running less than 5 seconds later... I've set my autokill to crazy, have an ignore list, etc... any thing else I can do to limit what crap runs without me opening the app myself?
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K... I'm new to android (from iPhone) and I just bought the mt4g... I downloaded the advanced task killer, but every time I "kill" the apps, there are 10 more running less than 5 seconds later... I've set my autokill to crazy, have an ignore list, etc... any thing else I can do to limit what crap runs without me opening the app myself?
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I believe you are not supposed to use task killers on Android because the system manages apps and when you stop them it messes up something. Here is a link: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Correct. There is no need for task killers with these phones.
Glad I asked... uninstalled it, guess I'll see how it goes
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Yes sir! Plus thats why we have such big ram size
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Wow I didn't know this, I just uninstalled my task manager.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
It can also hurt battery life as well. If you constantly force close applications the phone will boot them back up which puts strain on the processor and uses more battery life.
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Speaking from personal experience: once there's enough RAM in the phone, there's no need for external task killer or manager. Yes, it was necessary on the phones like G1 or original MyTouch with less then 1 year old OS. At this point, Android matured enough to handle everything on its own and it does beatiful job at it. I am almost at the point of getting MT4G, using wife's old Cliq at the moment. I can't believe how much difference extra RAM does, it never slows down for me on 2.1 de-blurred. Be extra careful downloading multiple apps though because if one misbehaves it will be hard to know which one.
Remember, free RAM is wasted ram, especially true with FroYo
You should still use a task killer, just don't use an autokiller. Let's say you use play a game, open browser, open music, open 3+ other cpu intensive apps..They will not close on there own, till the ram is "extremely low". Apps still use cpu when in b/g, like syncing apps like fb and twitter.
Task Killers
I don't see any reason not to have a task killer...without it, how would you know if there is a rogue app on your system? With a task killer installed, I was able to see what apps were loading at startup and then if I rarely use it, I blocked it with Startups. This has had a huge impact (for the better) on my battery life as well.
I agree not to setup the task killer to aggressively kill tasks, but if you use it to see what is happening on your phone, I don't see the harm in them at all.
don't you think a task killer would be built into android if Google intended us to manually kill tasks?
I have actually been going into the packages and disabling them via a terminal emulator. It was really easy and it seems to have prevented them from launching again.
What has been the best task killer for anybody. Im posting this threads cause myself have been wondering, which of all of them in the market is the best 1 for a phone. As for me i have a mytouch slide, Not rooted 2.1update1. I have been using Advance task Killer Pro, n has been wrking fine. But for some reason now my battery has been draining. So can u all plz let me know another good task killers out there. Yes ive heard is bad by killing apps, but i jst dont never understood why. So let me know what you all use thank u, n appreciate it.
I like system panel it gives a lot more info about what apps are missing behaving. Watchdog is real useful also.
Task killers are a bad idea, because as soon as you kill them, Android starts loading them back into memory, which wastes battery.
There's a whole bunch of levels of memory usage for apps, and task killers generally group them all together. Most of those apps being "killed" aren't actually loaded - they're cached, memory that can be dropped at a moment's notice when something else needs it. And the cached apps will start right away, since they're already in memory.
With a task killer removing those from memory, now there's lag because it has to be re-loaded, plus general lag from Android re-caching some of them.
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Task killers are a bad idea, because as soon as you kill them, Android starts loading them back into memory, which wastes battery.
There's a whole bunch of levels of memory usage for apps, and task killers generally group them all together. Most of those apps being "killed" aren't actually loaded - they're cached, memory that can be dropped at a moment's notice when something else needs it. And the cached apps will start right away, since they're already in memory.
With a task killer removing those from memory, now there's lag because it has to be re-loaded, plus general lag from Android re-caching some of them.
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He's not asking you if he should get a task killer he's asking for some names of task killers
Best and simplest is advanced task killer or ATK
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What has been the best task killer for anybody. Im posting this threads cause myself have been wondering, which of all of them in the market is the best 1 for a phone. As for me i have a mytouch slide, Not rooted 2.1update1. I have been using Advance task Killer Pro, n has been wrking fine. But for some reason now my battery has been draining. So can u all plz let me know another good task killers out there. Yes ive heard is bad by killing apps, but i jst dont never understood why. So let me know what you all use thank u, n appreciate it.
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I Use Adv. Task Killer, Also I Never Really Have A Issue With The Battery, But If You Notice Sometimes, After Killing A App, It Comes Right Back.... At That Point, If You Have The Adv. Task Killer Version I'm Using (V1.0.0 Build1) You Will Also Have A Service Button, Where You Can Go To The App That Keeps Restarting, & Touch It To Force It Closed, After That Your Battery Life Should Be Great!!
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I Use Adv. Task Killer, Also I Never Really Have A Issue With The Battery, But If You Notice Sometimes, After Killing A App, It Comes Right Back.... At That Point, If You Have The Adv. Task Killer Version I'm Using (V1.0.0 Build1) You Will Also Have A Service Button, Where You Can Go To The App That Keeps Restarting, & Touch It To Force It Closed, After That Your Battery Life Should Be Great!!
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But it still boots up though even if you force close it. I'm assuming at that point you are wasting battery trying to close it several times.
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But it still boots up though even if you force close it. I'm assuming at that point you are wasting battery trying to close it several times.
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And this is why I had my previous post. torvick12 said he never understood why it's bad to kill apps, so I gave him a reason - and here's another person saying basically the same thing, just, without the why Android does what it does.
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But it still boots up though even if you force close it. I'm assuming at that point you are wasting battery trying to close it several times.
It Boots Back Up Sometimes, But Instead Of Long-Pressing On Whichever App It Is Restarting, Press The Service Button (In Adv.Task Killer App) That Should Shut It Down Once (Twice The Most) For Good!!
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i prefer autokiller. if root then the preset work like charm. if not then need manual killing the task at process tab.
but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running
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i prefer autokiller. if root then the preset work like charm. if not then need manual killing the task at process tab.
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I Used Autokiller
I Also Have Autokiller Installed, But More Or Less Only Use The Presets, Mainly Cause I'm Not Sure What The Settings Are Spose Tah Get Set Too.
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but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running
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They aren't "running". They are loaded in memory for quick access to them. If something else needs that memory, the os will unload something from memory itself.
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but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running
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You don't need to. Period.
Advanced Task Killer does the job for me.
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
Taskkillers are for new android users coming from Windows. Lol.
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task killer pro is what i use to use back on ver 2.1 and 2.0.1 but if you ever get onto froyo or Gingerbread it's best not to even use a task killer at all.
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but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running
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If you're really interested, you can read lengthy technical writeups on how Android manages its apps.
If not, then you need to accept the fact that those apps are cached in memory and are not actively processing or using battery and there is no reason to kill them (unless they are acting up, in which case, I believe Eclair, but at least Froyo, and up have a built in task killing feature). That memory will be cleared when another app takes priority.
Think about this: your automated task killer is showing you only have 5% free memory! You kill those apps and you now have 95% free. WHAT GOOD IS THAT MEMORY IF IT'S NOT BEING USED ANYWAY? I reiterate, the memory would have been cleared regardless when another app took priority.
the android os. plain and simple
So I'm on CM7 RC1, Latest netarchy bfs, undervolted -20mv, governed on demand, CPU 100-800. Got about 17 hours with normal for me use, thought maybe I could squeeze out even more battery life with an auto task killer and got about 12 hours. Has anyone else experienced this? And its the first task killer that shows up if you search auto task killer gingerbread on the market.
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A lot of them do use memory. If you use some they do. I use the ones in the rom like miui or like go launchers. Is you look at battery usage it will prove what your saying. Also setcpu is awesome because you can make screen off priorities and even with data it saves tons.
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try using auto memory manager
works great for me
To me it makes sense if a task killer would cause more battery drain. Imagine it's trying to kill a task and after a few minutes later the task try to restart itself again -- then go on this loop for the whole day.
Task killers are bull****. They create more problems than they solve. They have been so misused that Google finally had to remove the possibility to kill tasks in Android 2.2. If you have Android 2.2+, task killers just don't work!
The one and only time a task killer is useful, is when you have a specific app that is misbehaving. Then, and only then, you use a task killer to kill just that one app.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-tips-tricks/193170-automatic-task-killer-why-you-need.html
already stop using task killer after i watched one video on youtube .
" android dont need your help "
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To me it makes sense if a task killer would cause more battery drain. Imagine it's trying to kill a task and after a few minutes later the task try to restart itself again -- then go on this loop for the whole day.
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Task killers are bull****. They create more problems than they solve. They have been so misused that Google finally had to remove the possibility to kill tasks in Android 2.2. If you have Android 2.2+, task killers just don't work!
The one and only time a task killer is useful, is when you have a specific app that is misbehaving. Then, and only then, you use a task killer to kill just that one app.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-tips-tricks/193170-automatic-task-killer-why-you-need.html
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Yep - task-killers are a relic of Android 1.1, when Android needed help regulating tasks. Since Android 1.5 they've been at best redundant, and at worst counter-productive. And since 2.2, they've been downright useless.
Advanced task killer is a very good app but i found that when i put it to kill tasks when screen off, it sometimes doesn't work??? It happened with my galaxy s and now with my xperia s
how you know it doesn't work ?
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how you know it doesn't work ?
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well when i turn the screen on and then off it would say x apps killed then i check the task list and see most of them are killed, but sometimes it doesn't work. Usually when i go directly into task killer then turn it off and then on it would work. Also i made sure task killer itself is not killed
Task killers are terrible. They actually waste battery power and reduce performance. This is well known and has been covered many times.
Uninstall.
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it doesn't use battery to me if you know how to use them correctly i only use it when screen off once
Android has a native task killer built in. The dalvik virtual machine keeps a certain amount of memory free while allowing apps to run and shuts them down when the limits are reached. If you really want to have a better task killer use a mem free script such as v6 supercharger, and use aggressive settings.
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it doesn't use battery to me if you know how to use them correctly i only use it when screen off once
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No offense, but simply put you are completely wrong and clearly do not understand how Android automatically handles processes and memory very efficiently without need for user intervention.
Again, DO NOT use task killers and your phone will work properly - and better.
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No offense, but simply put you are completely wrong and clearly do not understand how Android automatically handles processes and memory very efficiently without need for user intervention.
Again, DO NOT use task killers and your phone will work properly - and better.
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well i tell you why i want to use it. Its only when screen off anyways so minimum killing when necessary. But for example sometimes i start dolphin app and just go back to the main screen but dolphin is still running and using cpu, my phone gets hot, it seems sometimes apps get stuck in cpu. Then when i turn off the phone it will kill it cos of the task killer. If i turn off the phone and i dont kill it, dolphin will continue to use up 40% continuously making the phone hot and use up massive battery. Im sure some of you know this it happens with other apps too maybe its a problem with android gingerbread. Note dolphin doesn't always do this, only sometimes.
what im saying is some apps get cpu locked for some reason, so you have to kill it right?
Then Dolphin is your problem. Fixing it or using a different browser is the cure. Using a task killer is just sticking a Band-Aid over a wound that will never heal.
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Then Dolphin is your problem. Fixing it or using a different browser is the cure. Using a task killer is just sticking a Band-Aid over a wound that will never heal.
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But its not dolphin its other apps too sometimes they get stuck in cpu. So i want to turn off my screen and it will kill all.
granted it happens rarely but it still happens, i notice sometimes when my phone is off and its hot i check the processes and see a funky app wasting on cpu
Same thing still applies. The only real, effective solution is fixing or finding alternatives for the offending apps. Using a task killer is NOT the cure.
If the light in your room will not turn off because the switch is broken, is the right fix replacing the switch or unscrewing the bulb over and over?
Besides, that task killer is causing other problems you're not even aware of.
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Absolutely correct CrashDamage. Task killers do no good at all. Do some Googling on android task killers, and you will get an answer to your concern
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Ok i wont be using dolphin then or just force close that manually if it locks the cpu or if any other app does it.
Yep, use another browser.
you need putting in agressive mode
Just because you see it in the advance task manager doesn't mean it's running. Example samsung stock touchwiz shows you what app is using the cpu. App use a certain amount memory when it gets so to the the limit android with get rid of the oldest app that is not being used. To make room for more.
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Thank you for the information. But I do notice a considerable improvement in battery power with Advanced Task Killer.
I hope someone can provide me an answer.