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There are 2 top task managing apps rite now
Task Killer by ReChild
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TasKiller free by Thibaut Nicolas.
wanted to know which one u guys prefer.
i liked the Task Killer by ReChild....as it is easier to use..and more intuitive.
Not everyone will subscribe to what I'm about to say (type!) but.. I've stopped using task managers altogether now and I'm finding that the phone runs smoother and better without them... and it's using less battery too.
do some task managers cause programs to crash or stop working randomly?
my handcent and messaging were crashing
Nocturnal310 said:
There are 2 top task managing apps rite now
Task Killer by ReChild
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TasKiller free by Thibaut Nicolas.
wanted to know which one u guys prefer.
i liked the Task Killer by ReChild....as it is easier to use..and more intuitive.
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I have task killer by ReChild aswell and no just go into the app and ignore the ones you dont to be killed.
Try System Panel (beta) it works well really well - search for it on the market.
I have tried Advanced Task Killer and for me the best is Task Manager, the one that has green droid on the icon and red circle with X inside it Altough, as time goes my RAM goes from 140 Mb to 80 or less, Im guessing that Timescape eats the memory as it updates because he is on my ignore list with few other programs.
Advance Task Manager is the best for my opinion...because my phone has 178 ram free now and has auto shutdown application and its more faster..
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Not everyone will subscribe to what I'm about to say (type!) but.. I've stopped using task managers altogether now and I'm finding that the phone runs smoother and better without them... and it's using less battery too.
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I'm with you, every task manager ive tried either uses more battery than it saves or kills things that you really dont want it to.
If i need to kill something I now use the force stop option under applications in the settings. Astro also has a nice process manager that shows cpu usage and allows you to kill off individual processes.
pficrx said:
Advance Task Manager is the best for my opinion...because my phone has 178 ram free now and has auto shutdown application and its more faster..
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What is on your ignore list ? I have Nimbuzz, Messages, Timescape, Weather and Facebook and on fresh start I have 150 Mb but with time it gets to 80 Mb...there is no way that you can have 178 Mb whole day and that some services are working in background. Or am I doing something wrong ?
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why are you worried about how much free ram you have? Have you ever actually experienced a situation where an app complained about not having enough memory?
Why not just let android worry about using the free memory in the best way it can. If an App needs more memory Android can always dump some of the stuff that is not important anyway.
Try to use Advance Task Manager and tell me then how much free memory you have...
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TaskOS was really awesome, then there was this update and now it sucks
Task Managers are only needed by pseudo multitasking phones/OS's such as Windows.
Linux/Android take care of their own memory management and so do not need task killers, in fact on Android they do more harm than good as they kill processes that you really do want to be running or at least resident in memory. It will slow your phone down and drain power if Android needs to keep restarting it's monitoring processes (eg. battery monitor, clock, alarm etc...) because the user keeps killing it with a task manager.
Also, just because an application is resident in the kernel does not mean it is being used, using any resources, stealing any resources or memory from anything else. If a new application start and Android needs the memory, it will take it !
^ Yeah, I stopped using a task manager a few weeks ago, and think my battery life has actually improved since doing so.
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Not everyone will subscribe to what I'm about to say (type!) but.. I've stopped using task managers altogether now and I'm finding that the phone runs smoother and better without them... and it's using less battery too.
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Phantasm4489 said:
I'm with you, every task manager ive tried either uses more battery than it saves or kills things that you really dont want it to.
If i need to kill something I now use the force stop option under applications in the settings. Astro also has a nice process manager that shows cpu usage and allows you to kill off individual processes.
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yep.... Astro is cool.... and now the phone is much smoother and battery life has improved....
I have been using advanced task killer, but will look into some of the alternatives suggested here.
Even if a task manager doesn't improve performance, I can't do without one. I just gotta know what is running in the background.
P.S. Why is this forum such a PIA for new users?
Phantasm4489 said:
why are you worried about how much free ram you have? Have you ever actually experienced a situation where an app complained about not having enough memory?
Why not just let android worry about using the free memory in the best way it can. If an App needs more memory Android can always dump some of the stuff that is not important anyway.
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I think the main point is people are trying to work out ways of increasing their battery life.
Good topic.
well i use advanced task killer by rechild, i decided to leave it closed all day today and let tye os do its thing. while i agree android can easily allocate the ram, in just 5 hours without task kill my battery drained to 68%, normally itd be around 88%ish. so my vote goes to task kill for better batt life...
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X10 Have Built in Application running in background call Wiper App (com.qualcomm.wiper.apk)
Can any expert tell me is this file works as task-manager in the system?
Hi all.
Is there any app\way to use something like this:
When we access the normal 'task manager'\'view running apps' (if you press the middle button of X10), if we long press the app we want, have the option to kill it ?
Cheers!
Hi all,
How many of you all used task killer on nexus s ?
Was asking this because i was playing RealFootball 11 and it lags real bad.
Thus, im thinking if it might have to do with insufficient memory.
What task killer is good?
I will never use a task killer on Android. Task killers create more problems than they solve.
Mate I was a task killer user. But I have learned that is not necessary on android (unless its an antique version) I put all my faith in the app 'watchdog' personally as this works far more efficiently than a task killer. Apps do turn themselves off and I believe a traditional task killer does more harm than good regarding performance.
I see...
Heeding you guys' advice man
Anyway, still feel abit wasted that Nexus S cant run Real Football 11 lagfree
dplate07 said:
I see...
Heeding you guys' advice man
Anyway, still feel abit wasted that Nexus S cant run Real Football 11 lagfree
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Has the game been updated for gingerbread? Dunno if that would matter but may be worth asking the Dev.
I used to but overall they don't really work. 2.3 is pretty good at managing memory anyway.
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Man, my NS was butter smooth the first day I got it, but after using it for a month plus and installing that many applications, almost every game will lag a little, even angry birds! I still haven't figured out how to use the WatchDog app properly though. I will either uninstall the stuffs one by one to see which one is the culprit or just factory reset my phone.
shrivelfig said:
I will never use a task killer on Android. Task killers create more problems than they solve.
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why do you say that?
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why do you say that?
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In Android, free memory is wasted memory. People not knowledgable in how Android manages memory think that they're accomplishing something by killing tasks in the hopes of freeing up memory. It doesn't work that way.
Android has a threshold of what amount of free RAM should be maintained, and then does its best to fill up the remaining RAM with apps and stuff you might want to use later; it's like pre-loading your stuff so it loads faster.
The irony of people using task killers to free memory up to "improve performance" and "save battery" is that in most situations they're doing just the opposite. If you kill an app with a task killer, Android will frequently just re-open it in the background to frill up that empty memory space back to its thresholds, thus using up more cpu and juice to reload it.
There are apps or even terminal commands (for root) that let you change that threshold number, and on other devices (2.2 and lower) for me, tweaking that number did sometimes make the phone feel snappier, but it was real trial and error to get it right. I haven't felt the need for it on the Gingerbread Nexus S.
If you're interested in trying something like that, check out AutoKiller Memory Optimizer. Don't let that name fool you, it's a poorly named app, this is NOT a task killer app, it's just a GUI interface to the minfree settings that tell Android's own memory manager what thresholds to use.
There's another one I used to use MinFreeMgr or something like that, but I can't find a link.
And finally, there are limited times that killing tasks is beneficial, one would be if you have an app that's run amok and won't exit on its own. I'm sure there are others, but it's usually a good idea to avoid that practice.
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Mate I was a task killer user. But I have learned that is not necessary on android (unless its an antique version) I put all my faith in the app 'watchdog' personally as this works far more efficiently than a task killer. Apps do turn themselves off and I believe a traditional task killer does more harm than good regarding performance.
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Watchdog sucks, I used it for a week and my NS battery consumption was the same.
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why do you say that?
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http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
TasKiller by AxDroid LLC or Advanced Task Killer by ReChild? Simple as that
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None. Android has its own memory management system that works excellently which gives task killers no use.
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You're right but I think it's not enough for devices with low memory. I use ES TaskManager since I have the phone and it makes it faster
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TasKiller by AxDroid LLC or Advanced Task Killer by ReChild? Simple as that
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Neither, period, don't use 'em. If you need to kill a single app, use whatever, do not use auto task killers.
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Neither, period, don't use 'em. If you need to kill a single app, use whatever, do not use auto task killers.
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Just a quick question, what are your bold negative views on auto task killers?
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None. Android has its own memory management system that works excellently which gives task killers no use.
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Neither, period, don't use 'em. If you need to kill a single app, use whatever, do not use auto task killers.
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These.
If anything, only use Task Killers for rogue applications that are putting too much load on your CPU and draining your battery, not for "Oh hey lets kill everything in this window so it goes fast."
The majority of everything you kill is going to come back anyway, and it's going to have to start from scratch, which in the long run is going to demolish your battery. Avoid Task Killers unless you use it for the right reasons. If anything, just use Watchdog Lite. It serves that purpose.
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These.
If anything, only use Task Killers for rogue applications that are putting too much load on your CPU and draining your battery, not for "Oh hey lets kill everything in this window so it goes fast."
The majority of everything you kill is going to come back anyway, and it's going to have to start from scratch, which in the long run is going to demolish your battery. Avoid Task Killers unless you use it for the right reasons. If anything, just use Watchdog Lite. It serves that purpose.
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If you're rooted, you can use an app like MinfreeManager. It gives you more control over Android's memory management.
Been wondering on whether to use task killers on the Desire S.
Read many articles why you shouldn't use them, but on the other hand i see many people using them.
On my Galaxy Tab, and S2, they both come preinstalled with task killers, and i use them. They help beacause my Tab slows down alot!
But on the Desire S they isnt a task killer present. I havent experienced and lags or anything, since i've had the device for a week.
But just wondering if i use a task killer can i improve the battery life further?
Why did htc not include a task killer, but in sense 3.0 ROms they have it?
also is there any apk etc, to get that new HTC Task Manager without having to change ROM?
So do you use a task killer? Does it improve battery life? If so, which task killer do you use?
Cheers guys
i use advanced task killer pro. it's great. MIUI has an in-built task killer. IDK about battery life, but well, free RAM sure improves multitasking.
I answered I have it but don't use it, as I don't find that the phone lags and even though I do have one installed I use it very very rarely.
I have the htc task killer (as it comes within LBC ROM) , I use it very rarely and only when I find that a process is mis-behaving and not FC'ing on its own.
I also have fast reboot which again I use very sparingly, this closes and then restarts all of the running processes and is like a reboot without powering down the phone (so saves battery) I find that it's useful when attempting to identify sources of battery drain etc.
Ultimately not all programs will function as they should, so I find that its best to have one and not use it rather than not have one and need it
you dont need task killers on android
android automatically kills tasks which are not used when it requires memory(& it usually is very good at this)
& tasks on the RAM do not take any battery,they take battery only when they are active & are using the processor
task managers can actually have a negative effect on your battery life,if you kill a app it will take more processing power to restart again & will cost you more battery but if you leave it on the ram it wont take any battery & starting it again will take less battery
& i have read many android users saying that uninstalling task managers helps them with their lagg problems
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I answered I have it but don't use it, as I don't find that the phone lags and even though I do have one installed I use it very very rarely.
I have the htc task killer (as it comes within LBC ROM) , I use it very rarely and only when I find that a process is mis-behaving and not FC'ing on its own.
I also have fast reboot which again I use very sparingly, this closes and then restarts all of the running processes and is like a reboot without powering down the phone (so saves battery) I find that it's useful when attempting to identify sources of battery drain etc.
Ultimately not all programs will function as they should, so I find that its best to have one and not use it rather than not have one and need it
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Thanks for the info ben! I will check out that reboot app also just found out Android has its own killer if you need to kill apps
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kartkk said:
you dont need task killers on android
android automatically kills tasks which are not used when it requires memory(& it usually is very good at this)
& tasks on the RAM do not take any battery,they take battery only when they are active & are using the processor
task managers can actually have a negative effect on your battery life,if you kill a app it will take more processing power to restart again & will cost you more battery but if you leave it on the ram it wont take any battery & starting it again will take less battery
& i have read many android users saying that uninstalling task managers helps them with their lagg problems
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Thanks kartkk! Just the info I read too guess ill defo not be using a task killer for normal use then
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I shouldn't have worried at the first place if i did open alot of application in my android. thought that it works like windows.
What's bad are automatic task killers. I use System Panel / Task Manager mostly to keep track with my battery usage history & system info but barely use it to kill tasks.
Automatic Task Killer are like most "Tuning" tools on Windows. You never know exactly what they do. There ist no need of "Free" RAM on Android. And, as written, killing a Task will not increase battetry life.
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I answered I have it but don't use it, as I don't find that the phone lags and even though I do have one installed I use it very very rarely.
I have the htc task killer (as it comes within LBC ROM) , I use it very rarely and only when I find that a process is mis-behaving and not FC'ing on its own.
I also have fast reboot which again I use very sparingly, this closes and then restarts all of the running processes and is like a reboot without powering down the phone (so saves battery) I find that it's useful when attempting to identify sources of battery drain etc.
Ultimately not all programs will function as they should, so I find that its best to have one and not use it rather than not have one and need it
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Thanks everyone for the input
Ben, I have installed the fast reboot app, and I am very pleased with it
Thanks for sharing! Saves me a full reboot when some apps aren't working
Cheers mate!
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I use a task killer so im curious why some people say not to use them. What are your opinions?
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I personally use them and havent come across suggestions not to, as long as u know what you are "killing" and its not a system process , it should be ok and yes it does free up RAM
I dont use any task killer and Im happy
I personaly would have a task killer one that kills all when idle. and frees up ram due to the fact i like to do cpu hungry tasks often
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I dont use any task killer and Im happy
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Same here, kill the task, and then feed the task killer the battery power saved.
I have tried them and found most of them didn't help much.
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Same here, kill the task, and then feed the task killer the battery power saved.
I have tried them and found most of them didn't help much.
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Same here.
I don't use any of them.I used before but i don't saw too much help.Just task killer use cpu more and load ram.I use now just a shortcut of standard runing services default from android.
Don't use task Killers. Android has its own built in task manager Which works far better than 3rd party task killers. All you doing is making android reload everything again. Then you wonder why this app doesn't update in the background or work properly it is your fault. Your killing off the processes. Ram is essentially useless in android if it's not being used.
If you have lets say most phones have 512-1gig of ram. Your phone will never say you have 512 ram full please free up ram. It gets to a certain memory limit like depending on what it was set to and then end the processes automatically by itself. If there are many processes running android will start swapping out processes to replace for the new one. When your playing a game and say oh i want to browse the web to check on some game codes or whatever you can go right back to the game.
What if you want to listen to your own music as well. You can then go right back to the game in the exact spot left off. But if you go I'm kill the game process off you won't be able to do that. Don't press that Clear ram in that task manager you have either. All process will be killed including google services. Which will be reloaded again as well as system processes. Everytime android needs to reload its using more power meaning worst battery life.
The only time you should use a task manager is when there is a rogue application or a memory leak.
Watchdog
I don't use a Task Killer, but I do like Watchdog. It's more of a system monitor and lets me know if any background apps jump over a particular CPU usage threshold.
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There is a free, Lite version if you want to give it a try. Amazon had the pay version as their free app o' the day a while back, and I jumped on it.
market.android.com/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&hl=en
I use to use taskkiller but my phone seems to run the same with or without, so I got rid of it.
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I use a task killer so im curious why some people say not to use them. What are your opinions?
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i dont like task killers, if your really desperate for ram and use android, i recommend using the v6 supercharger script made by zeppelinrox. ofcourse the thread can be found here in xda. Iwouldnt recommend task killers for several reasons:
1 they take some ram space themselves
2 they use some cpu thus making ur phone slower
3 they use some cpu thus draining your battery faster
4 they make your boot time on your phone longer because they are being loaded whereas scripts dont have that issue
5 i havent actually seen any propper task manager that has like autokill option and woks properly so you constantly have to press the end tasks button (like on system panel for example) and thats quite boring if your doing it all the time... scripts dont have that issue
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Don't use task Killers. Android has its own built in task manager Which works far better than 3rd party task killers. All you doing is making android reload everything again. Then you wonder why this app doesn't update in the background or work properly it is your fault. Your killing off the processes. Ram is essentially useless in android if it's not being used.
If you have lets say most phones have 512-1gig of ram. Your phone will never say you have 512 ram full please free up ram. It gets to a certain memory limit like depending on what it was set to and then end the processes automatically by itself. If there are many processes running android will start swapping out processes to replace for the new one. When your playing a game and say oh i want to browse the web to check on some game codes or whatever you can go right back to the game.
The only time you should use a task manager is when there is a rogue application or a memory leak.
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Great job explaining this man, I've been aware that killing apps just makes them restart. I really only kill apps if they are acting a fool.
And to clear things up I don't have a task killer installed, however I do use the one built into the go launcher app drawer to kill apps that go nuts.
I have used the v6 script before, however I recently downloaded Rom toolbox and it let's you adjust minfrees from there. You guys should check it out
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I don't use a task killer. My phone burns less than 1% of battery per hour when idle.
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I have used the v6 script before, however I recently downloaded Rom toolbox and it let's you adjust minfrees from there. You guys should check it out
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i have a low end phone, as i ran out of cash after buying myself headphones and an itouch, so i couldnt get the phone of my dreams and had to settle for a really cheap samsung galaxy 3 so i dont have a very wide choice of minfrees i can choose from... i got like 256 ram or something, and i dont use swap because i hate partitioning my sdcard...
im so definitly changing my phone in 2012, im either waiting for the nozumi to come out (huge sony ericsson fan ^_^) or im settling for the HTC gigabeats
Task killers are good when you see a rogue app that is draining a ton of your battery life but aren't good when you use the "Kill All" button. As long as their are poorly developed applications, there will be a use for task killers.
some people will tell you not to use task killers because it inhbits Android's normal functioning by interfering with RAm use, causes things to go wrong, running apps don't use battery, blah blah blah. but there are a few problems with these claims.
First, Android's RAM management is not flawless. no Operating system is. fanboys keep claiming it is yet offer no support for whether a 3rd party task killer is better or worse. in fact, they were all claiming this when Froyo was the latest. but then when Gingerbread came out, one of its new features was better RAM management, which fanboys around the internet praised it for, which means there had, in fact, been room for improvement, which they had been denying for quite some time.
second. there are around 500,000 apps on the market. some are flawed, causing RAM leaks and various other malfunctions that ANdroid can't always handle. a task killer is your best, and sometimes only option in this situation, as you might not reasonably have the option of deleting the app permanently.
third, battery life. it may be true that apps simply being running in the background alone doesn't use battery; I'm not sure. yet what fanboys routinely ignore is, many of these apps don't just sit there waiting to be turned on again. some of them turn on so as to collect user data about all sorts of things, then broadcast it to the developer for various uses. this broadcasting uses your phone's radio even when in the background, and that DOES use electricity - from your battery, not to mention data if you have a limited plan. a very large amount of apps do this, which is one major reason why ICS now includes a data management menu that monitors all apps' data usage, as well as a built in app freezer that stops apps from running until you allow them to again.
I use the one that comes stock, and alathough it frees up ram I dont notice any difference in battery drain (1% per hour) or any difference in performance
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some people will tell you not to use task killers because it inhbits Android's normal functioning by interfering with RAm use, causes things to go wrong, running apps don't use battery, blah blah blah. but there are a few problems with these claims.
First, Android's RAM management is not flawless. no Operating system is. fanboys keep claiming it is yet offer no support for whether a 3rd party task killer is better or worse. in fact, they were all claiming this when Froyo was the latest. but then when Gingerbread came out, one of its new features was better RAM management, which fanboys around the internet praised it for, which means there had, in fact, been room for improvement, which they had been denying for quite some time.
second. there are around 500,000 apps on the market. some are flawed, causing RAM leaks and various other malfunctions that ANdroid can't always handle. a task killer is your best, and sometimes only option in this situation, as you might not reasonably have the option of deleting the app permanently.
third, battery life. it may be true that apps simply being running in the background alone doesn't use battery; I'm not sure. yet what fanboys routinely ignore is, many of these apps don't just sit there waiting to be turned on again. some of them turn on so as to collect user data about all sorts of things, then broadcast it to the developer for various uses. this broadcasting uses your phone's radio even when in the background, and that DOES use electricity - from your battery, not to mention data if you have a limited plan. a very large amount of apps do this, which is one major reason why ICS now includes a data management menu that monitors all apps' data usage, as well as a built in app freezer that stops apps from running until you allow them to again.
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Could you please explain what third party task killers do that the Android system manager doesnt do natively?
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Could you please explain what third party task killers do that the Android system manager doesnt do natively?
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From my personal experience it doesn't kill some rogue apps that drain my phone's battery life. Occasionally I use the app "GPS Status" to help find my location faster and if I don't immediately kill the app after my location is locked, the app shoots up to 30-40% on Battery Status.
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Could you please explain what third party task killers do that the Android system manager doesnt do natively?
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work responsively, to start with. every time i've tried to open the application manager on android, I first have to go through all the sub menus to get to it, then sit and wait for it to slooooooooooowly load up the list on installed apps, then running apps, then click on the app, then wait for it to load that particular app's info, THEN I can force close it.
two, they often catch apps running that the default manager doesn't notice, I presume because their developers code them to be hidden somehow.
so yeah, they're occasionally a valid option to use.
I'm happy with or without task killer )
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