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Advance task killer problem

I'm using advance task killer, when I kill everything when I start up I get about 200mb of ram... But after a while I see some programs I don't use but it show up in ATK... Like google maps, moixer mail... I didn't use any of them, y is it on n draining my ram??
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It is not ATK problem, it is Android problem, you can root your fone in order to uninstall unexpecting program.

is it worth it to have the task killer???

3vilhomer said:
I'm using advance task killer, when I kill everything when I start up I get about 200mb of ram... But after a while I see some programs I don't use but it show up in ATK... Like google maps, moixer mail... I didn't use any of them, y is it on n draining my ram??
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Hi, And welcome to android!
This is not at all a problem. Android just starts everything and keeps it in 'cache' form . They are not at all draining your RAM as the system manages which program will get how much RAM. Just stop using task Killers and your phone will rum a lot smoother..

Huh, isn't task killer suppose to help save ram?? Cause after all these programs auto running I get about 30mb of ram left according to task killer...
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Hi..the point real united was making is that you don't need to ' save' ram on android. Android manages the memory itself so will remove things which are cached in order to create any memory it needs.
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Oo dats awesome! Didn't know android can do dat... Windows mobile 6.5 is a total different think...
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3vilhomer said:
Huh, isn't task killer suppose to help save ram?? Cause after all these programs auto running I get about 30mb of ram left according to task killer...
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Welcome to the linux world.
Free RAM = wasted RAM
What's the point of having free/unused RAM?
Android will load in memory the apps you use so, when you start one, it will be already in memory so, it only take a sec. for you to start use it.
Android will close the less used apps to free RAM when you use an application.
By killing the apps you won't solve anything because:
1. they will be turned on again by the system => more battery used.
2. when you use them, they will have to be loaded in memory: more processing => more battery used.
Just use the task killer to kill an app when you really have to do it.

dexter26 said:
is it worth it to have the task killer???
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My answer will be "No". I had the task killer in a very long time, but after unistalling it my mobile has better battery & performs better.

Oo thanx for the tips!! I'm a totally noob in android... Didn't know is so good... So much different from x1...
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Damn windows got me in bad habits lol
Gonna try running tomorrow without it.
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I have used Task Killer too when i have my X10 new but i realized that Task Killer dont make it better only more worse and since then i dont have used a Task Killer no more and my X10 is better than ever the Battery Life is good and its smooth and dont lags. Only use Task Killer when a Programm makes your Phone lag and dont close itself and stucks in the Background or you can reboot your Phone.

tuxStyle said:
Welcome to the linux world.
Free RAM = wasted RAM
What's the point of having free/unused RAM?
Android will load in memory the apps you use so, when you start one, it will be already in memory so, it only take a sec. for you to start use it.
Android will close the less used apps to free RAM when you use an application.
By killing the apps you won't solve anything because:
1. they will be turned on again by the system => more battery used.
2. when you use them, they will have to be loaded in memory: more processing => more battery used.
Just use the task killer to kill an app when you really have to do it.
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well said! i have been trying to explain this to my friends that have not experienced the linux world before...this is great

Thank you so much for these useful information! Since I have my X10, I've always had Task Killer running and let it kill task automatically without knowing that it can make my phone running out of battery! Many thanks!
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I disagree with some of the comments here. Advance Task Killer has helped me improve the battery life of my phone. The issue is to selectively kill apps that are running on the background for no apparent reason. For example, how many people use Moxier? If you don't use it, it should not be mucking around in the background using processor power.
After using ATK, my phone no longer re-starts from time to time. It used to do that when it ran out of RAM.

Normally, people are using Windows and get used to think that the system need free ram when they run new program and in order to keep their system runninh smoothly. So they think the same way when using any other operating system, that's included me.
And after reading all post in this thread, I'm starting to get confused: It is good with or without the task manager? Well, I uninstalled it for now to see if it's better than before or what. But firstly, I feel not comfortable seeing some programs that I don't like are running without doing anything to stop it! I think I might need the task manager in some cases like now.
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So it is better not to use atk?
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visitador02 said:
I disagree with some of the comments here. Advance Task Killer has helped me improve the battery life of my phone. The issue is to selectively kill apps that are running on the background for no apparent reason. For example, how many people use Moxier? If you don't use it, it should not be mucking around in the background using processor power.
After using ATK, my phone no longer re-starts from time to time. It used to do that when it ran out of RAM.
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There is no way your phone will reboot itself due to insufficient RAM.. Android manages it very nicely and if you notice your RAM will never go down below 30 MB no matter how many apps you are running in the background. I am currently running 37 applications without rebooting my phone. So that is/was not the reason for your phone rebooting itself. It might have caused due to some poorly coded apps and killing it might have solved the problem.
Now do not use task manager/killer. Android does that pretty nicely. And idle/cached apps take very little and almost negligible processing power.

Apps running in background

K... I'm new to android (from iPhone) and I just bought the mt4g... I downloaded the advanced task killer, but every time I "kill" the apps, there are 10 more running less than 5 seconds later... I've set my autokill to crazy, have an ignore list, etc... any thing else I can do to limit what crap runs without me opening the app myself?
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kevo817 said:
K... I'm new to android (from iPhone) and I just bought the mt4g... I downloaded the advanced task killer, but every time I "kill" the apps, there are 10 more running less than 5 seconds later... I've set my autokill to crazy, have an ignore list, etc... any thing else I can do to limit what crap runs without me opening the app myself?
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I believe you are not supposed to use task killers on Android because the system manages apps and when you stop them it messes up something. Here is a link: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/

Correct. There is no need for task killers with these phones.

Glad I asked... uninstalled it, guess I'll see how it goes
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Yes sir! Plus thats why we have such big ram size
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Wow I didn't know this, I just uninstalled my task manager.
myTouch4G (Glacier)

It can also hurt battery life as well. If you constantly force close applications the phone will boot them back up which puts strain on the processor and uses more battery life.
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Speaking from personal experience: once there's enough RAM in the phone, there's no need for external task killer or manager. Yes, it was necessary on the phones like G1 or original MyTouch with less then 1 year old OS. At this point, Android matured enough to handle everything on its own and it does beatiful job at it. I am almost at the point of getting MT4G, using wife's old Cliq at the moment. I can't believe how much difference extra RAM does, it never slows down for me on 2.1 de-blurred. Be extra careful downloading multiple apps though because if one misbehaves it will be hard to know which one.
Remember, free RAM is wasted ram, especially true with FroYo

You should still use a task killer, just don't use an autokiller. Let's say you use play a game, open browser, open music, open 3+ other cpu intensive apps..They will not close on there own, till the ram is "extremely low". Apps still use cpu when in b/g, like syncing apps like fb and twitter.

Task Killers
I don't see any reason not to have a task killer...without it, how would you know if there is a rogue app on your system? With a task killer installed, I was able to see what apps were loading at startup and then if I rarely use it, I blocked it with Startups. This has had a huge impact (for the better) on my battery life as well.
I agree not to setup the task killer to aggressively kill tasks, but if you use it to see what is happening on your phone, I don't see the harm in them at all.

don't you think a task killer would be built into android if Google intended us to manually kill tasks?

I have actually been going into the packages and disabling them via a terminal emulator. It was really easy and it seems to have prevented them from launching again.

best task manager/killer app

Hi guys,
what is the best task manager/killer app for galaxy tab?
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None. Why do you need averting more than the samsung provided one? I haven't seen any need to kill apps on the tab.
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Task killers are the devil. Don't use them. They haven't been needed since Android 2.0
If you need to kill an app, use the Task Manger that comes with the Tab.

Thanks guys for the advice.
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Quick question...because I'm confused and curious as well about Task Killers...why would devs and users alike think Task Killers are so bad if GB 2.3 includes an enhanced Task Killer for managing apps, seeing which apps take up memory, and kill battery life? The SGT including one as well. What gives?
All of the things listed above seem like a good reason to me, right? Again, I just want to understand that's all.
Thanks for teaching.

cramjammer said:
Quick question...because I'm confused and curious as well about Task Killers...why would devs and users alike think Task Killers are so bad if GB 2.3 includes an enhanced Task Killer for managing apps, seeing which apps take up memory, and kill battery life? The SGT including one as well. What gives?
All of the things listed above seem like a good reason to me, right? Again, I just want to understand that's all.
Thanks for teaching.
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Some Task Killers (TK) are quite extensive in that they willl allow you to close down all manner of objects, Apps, etc. It is these TK's that are risky or should be treated with care.
However, the one provided on the Tab and alike are designed to only show running Apps and services that it feels you can stop if you so wish without causing any effect to the Tab's running.
I use both the built in TK and a third-party named SystemPanel.
If you look at both you will see that although the built in TK does it's job it is nowhere near as fierce as SystemPanel.
Again, provided you know what you are doing TK's such as SystemPanel can be of benefit. I use mine for a great number of tasks including obtaining detailed information of any App or object running to see how much of the processor it has been using, or Archiving any App prior to upgrading the App (just in case the updated App has issues I can then easily use the archive).

That's too funny...System Panel is the one I've been using for a while now. I like how it will give you MANY details about system apps as well as a ton of others information, makes me feel better!
Thanks for taking the time to share, much appreciated!

Croak said:
Task killers are the devil. Don't use them. They haven't been needed since Android 2.0
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Yep. See this post for a partial explanation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9681544&postcount=21

The only time you need a task manager is if you have a rogue app that won't exit and which is taking up the CPU. The SGT seems to be pretty good at killing such apps but I've had a couple of old programs with problems. (They have the same issue on my N1, so not surprising).
I've got OSMonitor installed anyway so I can check things, I just use that when I need to kill a "stuck" app, or if I really aren't too fussed I just reboot with QuickBoot.

well i use the tab a lot and when browsing any site with flash and graphics the avail memory drops to 40mb or less then thats when its gonna crash especially if you get a call at the same time.. i use advance task killer froyo just to free up memory here and there but since froyo the task killers can't really force close the tasks thats why the stock manager works well but doesn't show what background services are taking up memory and thats a major problem im still looking for a good task killer that will show and kill but not take up a large footprint in the memory , a program that seems to work well with my ATK is Fast Reboot its restarts all the apps running and frees up memory greatly helps a lot , for some reason the pro version disappeared that allows you to exlude certain tasks from restarting on click.
I really don't think if you use the tab a lot and as a phone you can't live without a one click task killer, don't really trust android os managing my ram, as well noticed when something such as yahoo mail eats up ram and cpu, it doesn't get closed automatically by android , big alternative i've noticed was uninstall it and use the stock email app and works so much better on memory and cpu.

i use the tab lots, as a phone too. I survive great without a task killer. I trust android to manage my free memory. I don't trust all apps to respect the os tho.
Read this: http://www.droid-den.com/android-guides/android-guide-should-i-use-a-task-killer

Which Is the Best Task Killer?

What has been the best task killer for anybody. Im posting this threads cause myself have been wondering, which of all of them in the market is the best 1 for a phone. As for me i have a mytouch slide, Not rooted 2.1update1. I have been using Advance task Killer Pro, n has been wrking fine. But for some reason now my battery has been draining. So can u all plz let me know another good task killers out there. Yes ive heard is bad by killing apps, but i jst dont never understood why. So let me know what you all use thank u, n appreciate it.

I like system panel it gives a lot more info about what apps are missing behaving. Watchdog is real useful also.

Task killers are a bad idea, because as soon as you kill them, Android starts loading them back into memory, which wastes battery.
There's a whole bunch of levels of memory usage for apps, and task killers generally group them all together. Most of those apps being "killed" aren't actually loaded - they're cached, memory that can be dropped at a moment's notice when something else needs it. And the cached apps will start right away, since they're already in memory.
With a task killer removing those from memory, now there's lag because it has to be re-loaded, plus general lag from Android re-caching some of them.

Izkata said:
Task killers are a bad idea, because as soon as you kill them, Android starts loading them back into memory, which wastes battery.
There's a whole bunch of levels of memory usage for apps, and task killers generally group them all together. Most of those apps being "killed" aren't actually loaded - they're cached, memory that can be dropped at a moment's notice when something else needs it. And the cached apps will start right away, since they're already in memory.
With a task killer removing those from memory, now there's lag because it has to be re-loaded, plus general lag from Android re-caching some of them.
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He's not asking you if he should get a task killer he's asking for some names of task killers
Best and simplest is advanced task killer or ATK
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torvick12 said:
What has been the best task killer for anybody. Im posting this threads cause myself have been wondering, which of all of them in the market is the best 1 for a phone. As for me i have a mytouch slide, Not rooted 2.1update1. I have been using Advance task Killer Pro, n has been wrking fine. But for some reason now my battery has been draining. So can u all plz let me know another good task killers out there. Yes ive heard is bad by killing apps, but i jst dont never understood why. So let me know what you all use thank u, n appreciate it.
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I Use Adv. Task Killer, Also I Never Really Have A Issue With The Battery, But If You Notice Sometimes, After Killing A App, It Comes Right Back.... At That Point, If You Have The Adv. Task Killer Version I'm Using (V1.0.0 Build1) You Will Also Have A Service Button, Where You Can Go To The App That Keeps Restarting, & Touch It To Force It Closed, After That Your Battery Life Should Be Great!!
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PMGRANDS said:
I Use Adv. Task Killer, Also I Never Really Have A Issue With The Battery, But If You Notice Sometimes, After Killing A App, It Comes Right Back.... At That Point, If You Have The Adv. Task Killer Version I'm Using (V1.0.0 Build1) You Will Also Have A Service Button, Where You Can Go To The App That Keeps Restarting, & Touch It To Force It Closed, After That Your Battery Life Should Be Great!!
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But it still boots up though even if you force close it. I'm assuming at that point you are wasting battery trying to close it several times.
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es_bih said:
But it still boots up though even if you force close it. I'm assuming at that point you are wasting battery trying to close it several times.
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And this is why I had my previous post. torvick12 said he never understood why it's bad to kill apps, so I gave him a reason - and here's another person saying basically the same thing, just, without the why Android does what it does.

es_bih said:
But it still boots up though even if you force close it. I'm assuming at that point you are wasting battery trying to close it several times.
It Boots Back Up Sometimes, But Instead Of Long-Pressing On Whichever App It Is Restarting, Press The Service Button (In Adv.Task Killer App) That Should Shut It Down Once (Twice The Most) For Good!!
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i prefer autokiller. if root then the preset work like charm. if not then need manual killing the task at process tab.

but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running

keatlck said:
i prefer autokiller. if root then the preset work like charm. if not then need manual killing the task at process tab.
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I Used Autokiller
I Also Have Autokiller Installed, But More Or Less Only Use The Presets, Mainly Cause I'm Not Sure What The Settings Are Spose Tah Get Set Too.
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moharu said:
but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running
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They aren't "running". They are loaded in memory for quick access to them. If something else needs that memory, the os will unload something from memory itself.

moharu said:
but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running
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You don't need to. Period.

Advanced Task Killer does the job for me.

http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/

Taskkillers are for new android users coming from Windows. Lol.
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task killer pro is what i use to use back on ver 2.1 and 2.0.1 but if you ever get onto froyo or Gingerbread it's best not to even use a task killer at all.

moharu said:
but i dont get this
so if u kill apps it wastes battery
then how do u get rid of the apps running
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If you're really interested, you can read lengthy technical writeups on how Android manages its apps.
If not, then you need to accept the fact that those apps are cached in memory and are not actively processing or using battery and there is no reason to kill them (unless they are acting up, in which case, I believe Eclair, but at least Froyo, and up have a built in task killing feature). That memory will be cleared when another app takes priority.
Think about this: your automated task killer is showing you only have 5% free memory! You kill those apps and you now have 95% free. WHAT GOOD IS THAT MEMORY IF IT'S NOT BEING USED ANYWAY? I reiterate, the memory would have been cleared regardless when another app took priority.

the android os. plain and simple

Task killer vs no task killer?

I use a task killer so im curious why some people say not to use them. What are your opinions?
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I personally use them and havent come across suggestions not to, as long as u know what you are "killing" and its not a system process , it should be ok and yes it does free up RAM

I dont use any task killer and Im happy

I personaly would have a task killer one that kills all when idle. and frees up ram due to the fact i like to do cpu hungry tasks often

Ystrem said:
I dont use any task killer and Im happy
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Same here, kill the task, and then feed the task killer the battery power saved.
I have tried them and found most of them didn't help much.

cnavi said:
Same here, kill the task, and then feed the task killer the battery power saved.
I have tried them and found most of them didn't help much.
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Same here.
I don't use any of them.I used before but i don't saw too much help.Just task killer use cpu more and load ram.I use now just a shortcut of standard runing services default from android.

Don't use task Killers. Android has its own built in task manager Which works far better than 3rd party task killers. All you doing is making android reload everything again. Then you wonder why this app doesn't update in the background or work properly it is your fault. Your killing off the processes. Ram is essentially useless in android if it's not being used.
If you have lets say most phones have 512-1gig of ram. Your phone will never say you have 512 ram full please free up ram. It gets to a certain memory limit like depending on what it was set to and then end the processes automatically by itself. If there are many processes running android will start swapping out processes to replace for the new one. When your playing a game and say oh i want to browse the web to check on some game codes or whatever you can go right back to the game.
What if you want to listen to your own music as well. You can then go right back to the game in the exact spot left off. But if you go I'm kill the game process off you won't be able to do that. Don't press that Clear ram in that task manager you have either. All process will be killed including google services. Which will be reloaded again as well as system processes. Everytime android needs to reload its using more power meaning worst battery life.
The only time you should use a task manager is when there is a rogue application or a memory leak.

Watchdog
I don't use a Task Killer, but I do like Watchdog. It's more of a system monitor and lets me know if any background apps jump over a particular CPU usage threshold.
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There is a free, Lite version if you want to give it a try. Amazon had the pay version as their free app o' the day a while back, and I jumped on it.
market.android.com/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&hl=en

I use to use taskkiller but my phone seems to run the same with or without, so I got rid of it.

exileinoblivion7 said:
I use a task killer so im curious why some people say not to use them. What are your opinions?
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i dont like task killers, if your really desperate for ram and use android, i recommend using the v6 supercharger script made by zeppelinrox. ofcourse the thread can be found here in xda. Iwouldnt recommend task killers for several reasons:
1 they take some ram space themselves
2 they use some cpu thus making ur phone slower
3 they use some cpu thus draining your battery faster
4 they make your boot time on your phone longer because they are being loaded whereas scripts dont have that issue
5 i havent actually seen any propper task manager that has like autokill option and woks properly so you constantly have to press the end tasks button (like on system panel for example) and thats quite boring if your doing it all the time... scripts dont have that issue

Killbynature said:
Don't use task Killers. Android has its own built in task manager Which works far better than 3rd party task killers. All you doing is making android reload everything again. Then you wonder why this app doesn't update in the background or work properly it is your fault. Your killing off the processes. Ram is essentially useless in android if it's not being used.
If you have lets say most phones have 512-1gig of ram. Your phone will never say you have 512 ram full please free up ram. It gets to a certain memory limit like depending on what it was set to and then end the processes automatically by itself. If there are many processes running android will start swapping out processes to replace for the new one. When your playing a game and say oh i want to browse the web to check on some game codes or whatever you can go right back to the game.
The only time you should use a task manager is when there is a rogue application or a memory leak.
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Great job explaining this man, I've been aware that killing apps just makes them restart. I really only kill apps if they are acting a fool.
And to clear things up I don't have a task killer installed, however I do use the one built into the go launcher app drawer to kill apps that go nuts.
I have used the v6 script before, however I recently downloaded Rom toolbox and it let's you adjust minfrees from there. You guys should check it out
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I don't use a task killer. My phone burns less than 1% of battery per hour when idle.
Nexus One on Cyanogenmod 7.1

exileinoblivion7 said:
I have used the v6 script before, however I recently downloaded Rom toolbox and it let's you adjust minfrees from there. You guys should check it out
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i have a low end phone, as i ran out of cash after buying myself headphones and an itouch, so i couldnt get the phone of my dreams and had to settle for a really cheap samsung galaxy 3 so i dont have a very wide choice of minfrees i can choose from... i got like 256 ram or something, and i dont use swap because i hate partitioning my sdcard...
im so definitly changing my phone in 2012, im either waiting for the nozumi to come out (huge sony ericsson fan ^_^) or im settling for the HTC gigabeats

Task killers are good when you see a rogue app that is draining a ton of your battery life but aren't good when you use the "Kill All" button. As long as their are poorly developed applications, there will be a use for task killers.

some people will tell you not to use task killers because it inhbits Android's normal functioning by interfering with RAm use, causes things to go wrong, running apps don't use battery, blah blah blah. but there are a few problems with these claims.
First, Android's RAM management is not flawless. no Operating system is. fanboys keep claiming it is yet offer no support for whether a 3rd party task killer is better or worse. in fact, they were all claiming this when Froyo was the latest. but then when Gingerbread came out, one of its new features was better RAM management, which fanboys around the internet praised it for, which means there had, in fact, been room for improvement, which they had been denying for quite some time.
second. there are around 500,000 apps on the market. some are flawed, causing RAM leaks and various other malfunctions that ANdroid can't always handle. a task killer is your best, and sometimes only option in this situation, as you might not reasonably have the option of deleting the app permanently.
third, battery life. it may be true that apps simply being running in the background alone doesn't use battery; I'm not sure. yet what fanboys routinely ignore is, many of these apps don't just sit there waiting to be turned on again. some of them turn on so as to collect user data about all sorts of things, then broadcast it to the developer for various uses. this broadcasting uses your phone's radio even when in the background, and that DOES use electricity - from your battery, not to mention data if you have a limited plan. a very large amount of apps do this, which is one major reason why ICS now includes a data management menu that monitors all apps' data usage, as well as a built in app freezer that stops apps from running until you allow them to again.

I use the one that comes stock, and alathough it frees up ram I dont notice any difference in battery drain (1% per hour) or any difference in performance

Falkner09 said:
some people will tell you not to use task killers because it inhbits Android's normal functioning by interfering with RAm use, causes things to go wrong, running apps don't use battery, blah blah blah. but there are a few problems with these claims.
First, Android's RAM management is not flawless. no Operating system is. fanboys keep claiming it is yet offer no support for whether a 3rd party task killer is better or worse. in fact, they were all claiming this when Froyo was the latest. but then when Gingerbread came out, one of its new features was better RAM management, which fanboys around the internet praised it for, which means there had, in fact, been room for improvement, which they had been denying for quite some time.
second. there are around 500,000 apps on the market. some are flawed, causing RAM leaks and various other malfunctions that ANdroid can't always handle. a task killer is your best, and sometimes only option in this situation, as you might not reasonably have the option of deleting the app permanently.
third, battery life. it may be true that apps simply being running in the background alone doesn't use battery; I'm not sure. yet what fanboys routinely ignore is, many of these apps don't just sit there waiting to be turned on again. some of them turn on so as to collect user data about all sorts of things, then broadcast it to the developer for various uses. this broadcasting uses your phone's radio even when in the background, and that DOES use electricity - from your battery, not to mention data if you have a limited plan. a very large amount of apps do this, which is one major reason why ICS now includes a data management menu that monitors all apps' data usage, as well as a built in app freezer that stops apps from running until you allow them to again.
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Could you please explain what third party task killers do that the Android system manager doesnt do natively?

johnston9234 said:
Could you please explain what third party task killers do that the Android system manager doesnt do natively?
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From my personal experience it doesn't kill some rogue apps that drain my phone's battery life. Occasionally I use the app "GPS Status" to help find my location faster and if I don't immediately kill the app after my location is locked, the app shoots up to 30-40% on Battery Status.

johnston9234 said:
Could you please explain what third party task killers do that the Android system manager doesnt do natively?
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work responsively, to start with. every time i've tried to open the application manager on android, I first have to go through all the sub menus to get to it, then sit and wait for it to slooooooooooowly load up the list on installed apps, then running apps, then click on the app, then wait for it to load that particular app's info, THEN I can force close it.
two, they often catch apps running that the default manager doesn't notice, I presume because their developers code them to be hidden somehow.
so yeah, they're occasionally a valid option to use.

I'm happy with or without task killer )
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