Hello,
I'm from switzerland, using a qtek 9000 with original wm5 Rom. I've tried several wm6 Roms yet, which all were fast and handy... the only reason to go back to my original rom, was the keyboard support (swiss german uses äöiü a lot) which simply wasn't there. I've tried tons of Registry hacks and all possible combinations of them, without success.. May it be possible, that the keyboard layout settings for swiss ger aren't even on these roms? Where are they stored? Since I've no experience on cooking roms, i dont know how to solve this problem. Any Idea?
(May it be, that the keybddr.dll has a influence on the keyboard-layout? how would i get this file from my old rom into the new one?)
alderan said:
Since I've no experience on cooking roms, i dont know how to solve this problem. Any Idea?
(May it be, that the keybddr.dll has a influence on the keyboard-layout? how would i get this file from my old rom into the new one?)
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I have an italian keyboard profile, after each ROM upgrade I usually change the registri key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty\Layout
Write down the value of you current ROM and set it after the upgrade.
This will solve your problem about the real keyboard (N.B. this change doesn't affect the soft keyboard, since I'm not interested in that one I never searched for a solution).
Marco.
Thanks for your help, but as i wrote in my first post, i tried a whole lot of registry keys (the one you mentioned now once again) without success.. I can get the original qwerty Layout to a qwertz, but the äöü.. are not to type as i can do in the original swiss german one (a+sym, u+sym usw). Any other ideas?
You need to edit \Windows\sym.txt (or sym.0409.txt or whichever one you use).
The file is simple text file and I am sure you will understand it's syntaxe when you see it.
This solution is for hardware keyboard only. It doesn't affect the onscreen keyboard.
btw. You can of course copy the one from your old ROM with working keyboard.
Hello all, and thank you very much for this very instructive forum.
I plan to buy a new mobile phone and am quite tempted by the new HTC Touch Diamond.
I've found several offers, but they do not each propose the exact same version of the phone. I've found (at least) 4 different versions : "UK", "NL", (on CloolBlue) "EU, English", "French" (on Expansys). Since the price and/or the delivery date differ, I'd like to know what are the other differences between these versions.
As their naming indicates it relates to the language (and maybe the country), but will the phone be different? As far as I can imagine, the difference might be:
- with the manuals (paper)
- hardware: ?
- software: the menu of the system
- software: the software keyboards (accented letters?!)
- software: the dictionaries (T9...)
- other?
Could anybody with experience of HTC products explain what are their habits in this area?
On another hand, as far as the differences are only software, in which extend is it possible to change it after (menus, keyboards, dictionnaries...)?
Thank you in advance.
one that is quad band would be nice.....
In my experience, only the software will differ. I mean the used language in standard apps and settings, menu's and dialogs. Things as T9 dictonaries will be almost certain available in many languages.
rondol1 said:
In my experience, only the software will differ. I mean the used language in standard apps and settings, menu's and dialogs. Things as T9 dictonaries will be almost certain available in many languages.
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OK, no problem for me having menus and dialogs in another language (I even prefer having them in English). But I'm more concerned by the SIP and the T9, since I'll type a lot of messages in French. Let's assume T9 are available in several languages. What about the SIP, does it support all languages (especially as far as the special characters (accented letters...) are concerned)?
And, if not, my next question is: How easy is it to change the SIP? (I mean replacing the native (Diamond) English keyboard by a native (Diamond) French keyboard.)
Since I'm completely new to HTC/WM, I don't even know if (and how) it's feasible.
Hello all!
I have the Fuze from AT&T, and I can't seem to find how to display asian webpages / music titles.
I don't want my whole phone to be changed, just the ability to show asian fonts instead of symbols! I tried adding chinese/korean/japanese fonts to Windows/Fonts folder, but that didn't help...
Anyone have a tutorial? I also checked htcwiki, but no one has the answer
Thanks a lot!
You need to link your fonts to the base font (Tahoma) by adding some registry entries. Instructions here:
http://leeblood.com/2008/02/16/windows-mobile-6-changing-the-system-font-adding-korean-support/
Keep in mind for MP3 tags (and possibly also other formats), the TF3d player (which uses WMP) also requires the ID3 tags be encoded in unicode in order to be read and displayed properly.
there is a file somewhere on this forum that allows you to view chinese, korean and thai. search for KoreChiThai
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Ok, I got my phone to display chinese/korean/japanese using korechithai.cab
but... now none of my keys are working!! Including the slideout keyboard, the home key, the back key, etc etc... It still lights up with i press the fn key or the shift/caps lock, but nothing shows up on the screen.
Also, the onscreen keyboard won't let me backspace, and letter recognizer is screwy too...
UGH... T.T HELP!!
Here is Chinese for you
Here I found something to display Chinese.
Works for sms and some system things (I currently got a Chinese Sim in my mobile). Didn't work for my Chinese e-mails though. Didn't test with websites... Found it as part of a Chinese translation program... But these are just the fonts not the program. You can find ChineseFont.cab on this page:
http://sites.google.com/site/wmdict/wm-dict-general/wm-dict-v20/wm-dict-v20-install-wm
Hope it works for you.
I didn't experience any problems. Again, this is not for input (I guess), just fonts to display.
Try CE-Star, it work, also you can write chinese too
CE-Star ... and what about Japanese, Chinese, Thai
Hi,
I tried CE-Star before and it wasn't really stable. Changed a lot of things on the phone such as fields and text sizes being incompatible. One being too large that is...
Yesterday I also installed the KorChiTha and the Japanese I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
However, I already had the cab I mentioned two posts ago and of course it froze my telephone needing a hard reset
Too eager and too impatient... anyway learned my lesson. Now I am looking for something like KorChiTha (which works fine for me by the way, I only use Chi and Tha) but with Chinese, Thai, and Japanese. This of course to run on my UK Raphael (well I bought it as HTC Touch Pro). These are the languages I need, I know a bit specific...
Does anyone know if there is this combination package somewhere? I don't want to crash everything again by combinging two different packages.
Thanks,
You can install fonts separately. Find three fonts that you like (Chinese traditional and/or simplified, Thai, and Japanese) and place them in your \Windows folder. Then add a reg key like so:
[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
Tahoma = (multi-line string value)
\Windows\msyh.ttf,MS Yahei
\Windows\cordiau.ttf,CordiaUPC
\Windows\msgothic.ttf,MS Gothic
Of course, substitute font filename and font name for whichever fonts you use. You may also need to create a similar key for "Courier New" if any of your apps use it as a base font and are also trying to display Chinese/Thai/Japanese.
CE Star problem and solution
Hey all,
I bought my TP in Hong Kong and it came with a version of CE-Start which I'm guessing was written for the Touch Pro. I say "written for" because:
1. I tried to install the version which came with my TP on my friends Diamond and it wouldn't install oh the Diamond.
2. Same friend that has a Diamond installed a version (not written for the Diamond)of CE Star and one day his Diamond's SMS messed up. From the TF3D screen, he could read the message but if he tried to open the SMS in Window's the page would just be white; no text no nothing and he couldn't write messages.
Googled the problem and found the answer:
Delete CE-Star and SMS can be read again in the Windows SMS app. He deleted CE-Star and what do you know, his SMS worked again.
Same thing happened to another friend that installed CE-Star on his older WM phone. I told him to delete CE-Star and his SMS worked again also.
Luckily so far, my phone has not experienced this problem; could be because of the version of CE-Star I have. Hopefully this won't happen to other CE-Star users but if you can't read SMS all of a sudden, CE-Star is probably why.
PS If you do get your TP in HK; the version of CE-Star on the Application CD doesn't work...I called HTC HK and the customer support lady said the wrong version was shipped with the TP. To get the correct version which will install on your TP, go to the HTC HK website and download it from the support section. I bought my TP and called HTC in October 2008, so maybe this version problem has been solved already.
?? Can't Read Chinese in the Calendar Notes Section
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
asdfjklqwerty said:
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
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Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
fhsieh said:
Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
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Hey fhsieh,
Thanks for the advice; I didn't even think about that.
Tried changing the regional settings to Hong Kong but the calendar notes section still displayed "???" in place of the Chinese characters. Numbers and letters of the alphabet display properly though.
Any other changes you can think that might help?
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
Awsome, thanks for the help again. I'm backing up my phone now and will try these regedits after work tonight. Hope things go well; I'll report later.
fhsieh said:
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
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Made the registry edits but "???" still show up in the notes section when I open a calendar entry.
The good news is that I didn't have to hard reset my TP. Seems like the only changes which occured are a mixed bag of font changes related to Windows menus. The Programs, Settings, Start Menu, calendar and call history, and the soft keys are all different fonts now: the lettering is "thinner." Other Windows apps like email, SMS, and Contacts have no font changes. Also, it seems that all the lettering in TF3D is not affected as well
Thanks again for the help fhsieh.
One more question: how do you have Japanese (other language) input? Did you have to install a Japanese reading/writing program or by IME do you mean the same thing I use to type Chinese in Windows with my keyboard? If I can use IME (if WM6.1 comes with a language pack), can I just install it like I do on XP?
Japanese, Chinese, Thai combination wanted...
Just refering to my posts above... is it possible to have the combination:
Japanese
Chinese
Thai
Like in the solution for KorChiTha..???
Thanks
I use the standard Microsoft Japanese IME, which I installed through a CAB. I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to ask so forgive me for just trying to be clear:
IME is not a program but a collection of dll files (and other system files, which add language and keyboard support) and registry settings (which load those files). There are programs that can do input without any special IME, but the input only works inside the program itself and will not work anywhere else in the system. 3rd party IMEs like CE-Star are the same, only they use their own dll files/settings.
Adding IMEs to WM is similar to adding keyboards to XP, but it is not the exact same. With XP, you can simply install regional support and add keyboards by inserting your XP disc. Microsoft does not provide such a disc for WM. But the required dll files / reg settings are pre-installed in certain phones (regional ROMs), so some people have extracted them to be able to install them to other phones that don't have it pre-installed.
With Japanese it's easy, since there is only one charset, one regional setting, and one set of keyboards (unless you want to use 3rd party IMEs). But with Chinese it's hard because of traditional/simplified, numerous regions and settings, and all kinds of keyboards (pin-yin, jyutping, four-corner, etc). CE-Star is a good alternative because it's just one single "suite" that can be used on practically any WM phone. But for that reason there will be small problems like the "???" character issue.
The benefit of Microsoft's own IME is that it may be able to avoid those problems. The trick is to figure out exactly which combination of traditional/simplified, regional support, and keyboards you want and then finding a package that has it (or finding the files setting it up yourself). Moreover, you may still have the same problems because not all packages are set up for every kind of ROM -- so there may be all sorts of other settings you need to change in order to get it working.
Still, if you want to try Microsoft's Chinese IME, a good place to start is Asukal's e-China package. You can also search XDA for Chinese IME threads. I would also recommend talking to some of the cooks who have setup Chinese ROMs, they will know better than I exactly which files you need and what settings. One of the newer Chinese ROMs is Jack's Chinese/Japanese Xperia ROM.
Relevant links:
http://www.asukal.jp/English/LocalizeCABS.htm
http://www.asukal.jp/Source.htm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Follow the instructions and then re-boot.
Is it any workable JP Input for HD2?
I've tried kind of method which work for diamond or even others WM6.5 machine.
like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482611&page=2
I can install the cab file sucessfully but cant type/tap any JP charaters with it.
Is it the problem of my HD2 come with the chinese support from HTC?
my ROM is 1.48.831.0 (71294) WWE
The one from the second link (Advanced IME) works on my HD2 (Rom 1.48.405.2 (71294) WWE)
I installed LetsJapanWM61r07 and KeyTouchJapIMEr07.
Then, I installed Happy Taping Keyboard, which has an IME key to switch on/off the IME function. Then, I installed SIPChanger to make Happy Taping Keyboard as default. I also installed PQzII to see the status of IME (On/Off).
I put the regional setting to English (UK).
I have not tested the configuration for a longtime yet, but it seems to work with most applications.
3to4 said:
The one from the second link (Advanced IME) works on my HD2 (Rom 1.48.405.2 (71294) WWE)
I installed LetsJapanWM61r07 and KeyTouchJapIMEr07.
Then, I installed Happy Taping Keyboard, which has an IME key to switch on/off the IME function. Then, I installed SIPChanger to make Happy Taping Keyboard as default. I also installed PQzII to see the status of IME (On/Off).
I put the regional setting to English (UK).
I have not tested the configuration for a longtime yet, but it seems to work with most applications.
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Thx for yr kindly informations.
After few times of crash...hard-rest.....
Finally can tap Japanese after installed
LetsJapanWM61r07, KeyTouchJapIMEr07 and Happy Taping Keyboard,
But the others problems occur now,
I thinks its the problem in between mine HD2 is HongKong version,
HTC chinese support which have been installed by default.
without install any 3rd party software, we can read Japanese w/o any problem,
just lack of INPUT support.
Sure we have the chinese handwriting/taping support with it too..
After install the above tools,
i cant use the default ime to input chinese anymore....
>_<[email protected]#[email protected][email protected]%$#%!
what the ....
anyone have any solution?
PS,
in my point of view..
the fonts of HTC chinese support looks much clear, beatiful then others....
Sorry it doesn't work for you. As you say, there maybe some kind of software conflict....
Hello,
I hope you already found your solution by yourself, but I have also had similar problem on my HD2 with 1.48.707.2(71294)WWE ASIA ROM and found solution for mine.
I expect this information may help somebody else who wants to install Japanese IME into their HD2 (WWE ROM with HTC original Chinese support IME Touch Input 2.1).
First of all, I have already given up to configure this original ROM to make trilingual IME (EN,CN and JP) condition on my HD2.
This information will help ONLY for making bilingual IME (EN and JP) condition on your HD2.
I made it by flashing ROM (WWE EU/US 1.48.405.2) with Gold card method + "e-china for diamond" (with reloadnls.exe) produced by Asukal + "ATOK for windows mobile" + "ATOK update module" + "Fingerkeb2.1" + Japanese SKINS of Fingerkeb.
(FSKAREN also works instead of ATOK)
(installed .NET CF3.5 just in case)
I have attempted with same applications for original ROM but it had never properly worked at all ( I wasted more than 3days for configuring ).
If somebody wants to know whole story, I will explain it in other replay but the story is too long....
I DO NOT want anybody waste their time like me for this issue...
Thank you
well I'm trying to copy the JP IME from official WM6.5, which is how I made my WM6.0 WWE work with JP, not going well.
Where does one get ATOK for windows mobile from?
BOBBY42 said:
Hello,
I made it by flashing ROM (WWE EU/US 1.48.405.2) with Gold card method[/URL] + "e-china for diamond" (with reloadnls.exe) produced by Asukal + "ATOK for windows mobile" + "ATOK update module" + "Fingerkeb2.1" + Japanese SKINS of Fingerkeb.
(FSKAREN also works instead of ATOK)
(installed .NET CF3.5 just in case)
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I was in the same situation more or less. Spent days after it and finally I got into something that allows me input but only in portrait mode since it looks like no wvga version is out yet.
My sequence (lol) brought me to have emoji too but still no true joy. The keyboard of FSKAREN in landscape is small and ugly, to say it all, so I was thinking about the "Fingerkeb2.1" + Japanese SKINS of Fingerkeb you mentioned.
I've seen the Finger Keyboard 2,1 thread but no trace of the Japanese skin so far.
Could you please link it here ?
Thanks in advance,
C.
I got it kinda working, but hiragana won't change to kanji
you must type, then select it and change...
I'll get another device to test soon.
another Q, what are
MsgStore.dll
helpstub.exe
imjp31u.dic
for?
When I made the Jp mod for WM6.0 I didn't need these files and it worked fine. But even then other cabs included them.
HD2 from HK, running WWE
It overrides wince.nls and thus it is impossible to install Japanese support on it.
I have programs that install Japanese support on WWE WM6.5 and inputs fine no the emulator but on HD2 it just crashes, or after install you still cannot select region settings as Japanese
Does it help?
speakerphone said:
HD2 from HK, running WWE
It overrides wince.nls and thus it is impossible to install Japanese support on it.
I have programs that install Japanese support on WWE WM6.5 and inputs fine no the emulator but on HD2 it just crashes, or after install you still cannot select region settings as Japanese
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Hi, I think that the problem is same as mine.
As you know that the wince.nls is always recovered by original ROM when each time of restarting your device. The reloadnls.exe is the program that overwriting nls file after recovered it by original ROM automatically. So you should have this (reloadnls.exe) shortcut file in you Start menu folder to prevent this kind of problem.
If there is no "Japanese" in list of region setting, means your modified wince.nls is not working correctly.
IME (Input Method Editor) crashes:
I am not really sure about the reason for this problem, but it seems be a conflict between Chinese IME and Japanese IME. It occurs on WWE ASIA ROM. If your device has the Chinese input support originally on soft keyboard, it must be a WWE ASIA ROM (I am quite sure that HK version is WWE ASIA ROM).
Can you check your "ROM version" from Start > Setting > About phone > Software information?
This is why I flash ROM with (WWE EU/US 1.48.405.2) on my HD2.
I installed ATOK and FingerKeyb 2.1 with WWE EU/US ROM, I don't have any problem about IME until today.
(You have to change registry - HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting - chenge EnableHtcRichEdit 1 to 0 for solving ATOK conversion problem).
I hope this info helps you.
Regards,
I got Japanese support set now.
Installed IME, but it can't load. So lacking writing, but I got gesture10 that does the kana bit OK...
speakerphone said:
I got Japanese support set now.
Installed IME, but it can't load. So lacking writing, but I got gesture10 that does the kana bit OK...
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can you share it?
as bobby said it's just reloadnls.exe
everything else was the same