I like the look of O2 XDA Orbit 2 much more than that of HTC Touch Cruise. And I'd like to buy it. But the problem is that it is not adapted for my country (Belarus).
I've looked through some threads of the forum but failed to form a complete opinion on some issues. So I want to ask a "direct" question:
Is it possible to buy a UK version of Orbit 2 and make the following changes:
1. Make it "understand" (correctly display) Russian and Belorusian symbols?
2. Make it correctly sort my Contacts (mainly Cyrillic) and display Russian alphabet in the right "search bar" in Contacts.
3. Get a standart 20-key Touch keyboard with at least Russian and English symbols (with specific Belarussian and German symbols accessible through "additional chars"). Possibly with "quick" switching between the Rus/Eng layouts.
4. Get at least Russian and English xT9.
And two more questions:
5. Is it possible to get Unlocked versions of Orbit 2?
6. Is there any GPS Navigation program that supports Belarusian maps? Not only main international roads, but normal city navigation?
I'm eager to recieve your comments.
I belive, there's a Russian ROM for the Polaris (or will be), and that should sort out most of your problems...
Resco Keyboard supportos several Cyrillic keyboard layouts, and there is a Russian t9 cab file posted already.
For the GPS... maybe iGO would support your country. At least it does whith most of the countries around our parts...
Thanks.
I'll give iGO a closer examination.
Concerning Russian ROM: of course I'll flush Russian ROM as soon as I find one. But the question is, wil - be able to achieve the results I want by installing different .cabs BEFORE I get Russain ROM?
And by the way, what "specific O2" programs do I loose flushing a Polaris (Touch Cruise) ROM on O2 Orbit 2 (like "Profiles" Home plug-in available on Orbit 2)? And is there any way to preserve/re-install them?
Still the question about unlocking: is there a way to buy unlocked Orbit 2 in UK or should I unlock it myself?
As far as i know, you'll have to unlock it yourself... there's a thread concerning th subject: link
Sorry, but I can't help whith the cabs, but there may be more clues in the Polaris upgrading etc. forum. I know the have similar threads (about greek language ). Maybe they can help you.
For the programs... you can always copy the cabs in the windows folder to your PC, that way you'll have the O2 programs (at least some of them). I have an original Polaris, so I don't know much about the O2 Apps...
Here's a quick list based on my exp applying Jp to the Eng rom.
1 Yes
2 No
3 Yes - 3rd party
4 Yes - 3rd party
Hello all!
I have the Fuze from AT&T, and I can't seem to find how to display asian webpages / music titles.
I don't want my whole phone to be changed, just the ability to show asian fonts instead of symbols! I tried adding chinese/korean/japanese fonts to Windows/Fonts folder, but that didn't help...
Anyone have a tutorial? I also checked htcwiki, but no one has the answer
Thanks a lot!
You need to link your fonts to the base font (Tahoma) by adding some registry entries. Instructions here:
http://leeblood.com/2008/02/16/windows-mobile-6-changing-the-system-font-adding-korean-support/
Keep in mind for MP3 tags (and possibly also other formats), the TF3d player (which uses WMP) also requires the ID3 tags be encoded in unicode in order to be read and displayed properly.
there is a file somewhere on this forum that allows you to view chinese, korean and thai. search for KoreChiThai
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Ok, I got my phone to display chinese/korean/japanese using korechithai.cab
but... now none of my keys are working!! Including the slideout keyboard, the home key, the back key, etc etc... It still lights up with i press the fn key or the shift/caps lock, but nothing shows up on the screen.
Also, the onscreen keyboard won't let me backspace, and letter recognizer is screwy too...
UGH... T.T HELP!!
Here is Chinese for you
Here I found something to display Chinese.
Works for sms and some system things (I currently got a Chinese Sim in my mobile). Didn't work for my Chinese e-mails though. Didn't test with websites... Found it as part of a Chinese translation program... But these are just the fonts not the program. You can find ChineseFont.cab on this page:
http://sites.google.com/site/wmdict/wm-dict-general/wm-dict-v20/wm-dict-v20-install-wm
Hope it works for you.
I didn't experience any problems. Again, this is not for input (I guess), just fonts to display.
Try CE-Star, it work, also you can write chinese too
CE-Star ... and what about Japanese, Chinese, Thai
Hi,
I tried CE-Star before and it wasn't really stable. Changed a lot of things on the phone such as fields and text sizes being incompatible. One being too large that is...
Yesterday I also installed the KorChiTha and the Japanese I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
However, I already had the cab I mentioned two posts ago and of course it froze my telephone needing a hard reset
Too eager and too impatient... anyway learned my lesson. Now I am looking for something like KorChiTha (which works fine for me by the way, I only use Chi and Tha) but with Chinese, Thai, and Japanese. This of course to run on my UK Raphael (well I bought it as HTC Touch Pro). These are the languages I need, I know a bit specific...
Does anyone know if there is this combination package somewhere? I don't want to crash everything again by combinging two different packages.
Thanks,
You can install fonts separately. Find three fonts that you like (Chinese traditional and/or simplified, Thai, and Japanese) and place them in your \Windows folder. Then add a reg key like so:
[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
Tahoma = (multi-line string value)
\Windows\msyh.ttf,MS Yahei
\Windows\cordiau.ttf,CordiaUPC
\Windows\msgothic.ttf,MS Gothic
Of course, substitute font filename and font name for whichever fonts you use. You may also need to create a similar key for "Courier New" if any of your apps use it as a base font and are also trying to display Chinese/Thai/Japanese.
CE Star problem and solution
Hey all,
I bought my TP in Hong Kong and it came with a version of CE-Start which I'm guessing was written for the Touch Pro. I say "written for" because:
1. I tried to install the version which came with my TP on my friends Diamond and it wouldn't install oh the Diamond.
2. Same friend that has a Diamond installed a version (not written for the Diamond)of CE Star and one day his Diamond's SMS messed up. From the TF3D screen, he could read the message but if he tried to open the SMS in Window's the page would just be white; no text no nothing and he couldn't write messages.
Googled the problem and found the answer:
Delete CE-Star and SMS can be read again in the Windows SMS app. He deleted CE-Star and what do you know, his SMS worked again.
Same thing happened to another friend that installed CE-Star on his older WM phone. I told him to delete CE-Star and his SMS worked again also.
Luckily so far, my phone has not experienced this problem; could be because of the version of CE-Star I have. Hopefully this won't happen to other CE-Star users but if you can't read SMS all of a sudden, CE-Star is probably why.
PS If you do get your TP in HK; the version of CE-Star on the Application CD doesn't work...I called HTC HK and the customer support lady said the wrong version was shipped with the TP. To get the correct version which will install on your TP, go to the HTC HK website and download it from the support section. I bought my TP and called HTC in October 2008, so maybe this version problem has been solved already.
?? Can't Read Chinese in the Calendar Notes Section
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
asdfjklqwerty said:
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
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Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
fhsieh said:
Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
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Hey fhsieh,
Thanks for the advice; I didn't even think about that.
Tried changing the regional settings to Hong Kong but the calendar notes section still displayed "???" in place of the Chinese characters. Numbers and letters of the alphabet display properly though.
Any other changes you can think that might help?
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
Awsome, thanks for the help again. I'm backing up my phone now and will try these regedits after work tonight. Hope things go well; I'll report later.
fhsieh said:
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
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Made the registry edits but "???" still show up in the notes section when I open a calendar entry.
The good news is that I didn't have to hard reset my TP. Seems like the only changes which occured are a mixed bag of font changes related to Windows menus. The Programs, Settings, Start Menu, calendar and call history, and the soft keys are all different fonts now: the lettering is "thinner." Other Windows apps like email, SMS, and Contacts have no font changes. Also, it seems that all the lettering in TF3D is not affected as well
Thanks again for the help fhsieh.
One more question: how do you have Japanese (other language) input? Did you have to install a Japanese reading/writing program or by IME do you mean the same thing I use to type Chinese in Windows with my keyboard? If I can use IME (if WM6.1 comes with a language pack), can I just install it like I do on XP?
Japanese, Chinese, Thai combination wanted...
Just refering to my posts above... is it possible to have the combination:
Japanese
Chinese
Thai
Like in the solution for KorChiTha..???
Thanks
I use the standard Microsoft Japanese IME, which I installed through a CAB. I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to ask so forgive me for just trying to be clear:
IME is not a program but a collection of dll files (and other system files, which add language and keyboard support) and registry settings (which load those files). There are programs that can do input without any special IME, but the input only works inside the program itself and will not work anywhere else in the system. 3rd party IMEs like CE-Star are the same, only they use their own dll files/settings.
Adding IMEs to WM is similar to adding keyboards to XP, but it is not the exact same. With XP, you can simply install regional support and add keyboards by inserting your XP disc. Microsoft does not provide such a disc for WM. But the required dll files / reg settings are pre-installed in certain phones (regional ROMs), so some people have extracted them to be able to install them to other phones that don't have it pre-installed.
With Japanese it's easy, since there is only one charset, one regional setting, and one set of keyboards (unless you want to use 3rd party IMEs). But with Chinese it's hard because of traditional/simplified, numerous regions and settings, and all kinds of keyboards (pin-yin, jyutping, four-corner, etc). CE-Star is a good alternative because it's just one single "suite" that can be used on practically any WM phone. But for that reason there will be small problems like the "???" character issue.
The benefit of Microsoft's own IME is that it may be able to avoid those problems. The trick is to figure out exactly which combination of traditional/simplified, regional support, and keyboards you want and then finding a package that has it (or finding the files setting it up yourself). Moreover, you may still have the same problems because not all packages are set up for every kind of ROM -- so there may be all sorts of other settings you need to change in order to get it working.
Still, if you want to try Microsoft's Chinese IME, a good place to start is Asukal's e-China package. You can also search XDA for Chinese IME threads. I would also recommend talking to some of the cooks who have setup Chinese ROMs, they will know better than I exactly which files you need and what settings. One of the newer Chinese ROMs is Jack's Chinese/Japanese Xperia ROM.
Relevant links:
http://www.asukal.jp/English/LocalizeCABS.htm
http://www.asukal.jp/Source.htm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Follow the instructions and then re-boot.
Hi there,
First thread here for me. I've recently purchased a Touch Pro 2 ( Rhodium T7373 ) model number RHO100. It's a UK branded (i'm from the UK) one from vodafone but unlocked and flashed with the recent winM 6.5 ROM from HTC.
So I'm living in Australia, but I regularly converse with people from China ( friends and business ) and I use the sogou pinyin input system on all my computers. I found out they provide an IME for Windows Mobile at shouji.sogou.com.
So I downloaded it and installed on my TP2. It works wonderfully, much better than that piece of trash CE-Star. So far so good....
Anyway, here's the rub:
It's a tiny tiny issue but seeing as I'm British and living in Australia, my communications through mobile are predominantly in English. Ever since I installed the sogou pinyin IME every time I soft reset the phone, the Sogou input system is activated by default. If I change it back to the english it will stay that way until another soft reset, and baboom, there is sogou.
Whilst I love the input system, I'm such an anal retentive when it comes to little details like this, I'd rather not have the input system and have my english default than have to change every time after a soft reset I want to input english.
Is there a quick decisive way to restore the "Full QWERTY" option as the default when I turn the phone on. I'm not scared of editing the registry directly. I just need pointing in the right direction, be it to software or a registry.
I've already done my own research and I got as far as finding the "default SIP" registry key, but unfortunately for me it it seems like it's an encoded value, i.e. a non human readable value and I have no reference values for the HTC default or any other.
Care to indulge me with a quick hit of registry magic? I've tried SIPChange and I don't like it, seems to error out on boot for my TP2. Thanks.
geejayoh
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No dice people?
I feel your pain, pal. I know exactly what you're describing since I'm a bit anal too. Assuming you read Chinese, the following post may enlighten you a bit:
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=129&t=944511
The post suggested editing the following registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1\
Default=e0010404 -> Traditional Chinese
Default=e0010409 -> English
I am no master in registry editing, but from what I read, it appears that there are different Keyboard Layouts. Your TP2's default layout is e0010409 English. After you install Chinese IME, it changes to e0010404 Traditional Chinese, which is why your Sogou input system is activated after a soft reset. Now if you change that registry back e0010409, it will now default back to English AND DISABLING CHINESE INPUT in the process. With that said, since this registry can be changed on the fly, I assume you can write a MortScript to change swap them whenever you need to input Chinese.
Hope this helps and let me know if you ever come across a better solution.
I would also appreciate if someone here can better explain how these keyboard related registries work. I can read manuals, just need some good pointers, thanks!
Just found a better solution. Apparently PlumSIP http://www.dayhand.com/ is a Chinese input system that is registered as an English (e0010409) keyboard layout. That is, it can switch between Chinese and English input without touching the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1\Default registry.
With this setup, you will have English as default input method, and can switch to Chinese when you need to.
Found an even better solution. Sogou just puts a shortcut to it's own process in your \windows\startup\ directory. If you delete that, Sogou isn't the default SIP anymore. YES!
Used this solution for HTC HD Mini, and now am satisfied with the result after deleting from the Sogou shortcut from directory. Nice help here, thanks...
Re: geejayoh
Found an even better solution. Sogou just puts a shortcut to it's own process in your \windows\startup\ directory. If you delete that, Sogou isn't the default SIP anymore. YES!
Hi all!
A lot of users want to use several input languages in their devices. Why not cooking a really multi-language ROM supporting UIs in different languages and multiple keyboard layouts? It is possible as some devices (e.g. Samsung OmniaPro) are delivered with a ROM supporting UI and HW/SW keyboard resources in several languages which every user can switch. I've also read about such custom ROMs for HTC Touch. Additionaly, in ROMs for non-latin languages (like Russian, Chinese) user can switch between latin and national keyboard layout by pressing the SYM button, and there are solutions like AEKMap.
What is to be done to create a ML ROM work, is to integrate
1) *.mui system files for several languages
2) an app (basically a registry updater) where user can activate a particular UI language and which keyboard layouts (one, or two, or maybe three?) have to be switched by pressing the SYM button.
My personal use case is as follows: I own a HTC P4350 with standard German ROM (6.0) and QWERTZ layout and need two things: 1) the additional Russian input for the hardware keyboard and 2) Russian UI. The only way now is flashing a Russian ROM - which will alas change QWERTZ (Ger) to QWERTY (Eng) and then using a tweak to set the layout back to QWERTY (yes, I've read those threads).
I've experimented a little bit without flashing, just by copying *.0419.mui files to the device (0419 for RU) and editing the registry like advised in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366756. However there is obviously more to be changed or added than I could discover. The best method to catch all the differencies is probably to compare two registries of same ROM version but in different languages, or to check solutions for other devices.
What do you think? Can someone try to cook a ML ROM? No matter WM 6.0, 6.1 or 6.5.
You see the main problem in doing that is the conflicts that would occur in creating a ml ROM.
But what we can do is install apps like FingerKeyboard with ml support and doing as you're doing.
But the conflicts I am talking about may render your device useless.
Tribulattifather, thanks for your point.
1. Why should there be conflicts with P4350 if there are apparently none with other devices? Which conflicts for example?
2. FingerKeyboard is for the screen keyboard, but I'm talking about the hardware keyboard.
Look at this:
msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa911786.aspx
msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa913008.aspx
I apologize, I forgot to mention the problems in my last post. You see, I have actually tried to adopt a similar theory. The problems that I faced where in the process of cooking the ROM. The ROM would not boot. And when I finally got 1 ROM that was a German/WWE combo, the device would constantly shut down because the device was trying to call to an operation expecting one thing and getting another.
But maybe we can figure something out from an already cooked ROM in WWE. I will experiment and let you know what I find out.
Tribulattifather, what you describe sounds more like a kitchen problem, because, as I've already mentionned, there are official multilingual WM ROMs. I have another mobile device, a Samsung OmniaPro P7330, which runs under official WM6.5 with a ROM supporting English US, English UK, German, Italian, French and Spanish UIs. There is a menu item in Regional Settings for switching the UI, it requires a soft reset, and voila, after the reboot everything is in another language (but not the keyboard layout).
On the other hand, official ROMs for non-latin languages like Russian support two input methods, one for Russian and one for English.
It would be great to figure out how it works. Can a look into registry dumps from a Herald with Russian firmware and from my multilingual-UI'ed smartphone help you?
Hi,
This weekend I bought a HTC Flyer and I'm so happy. There is one thing though that's killing me...
I also bought a Bluetooth keyboard so I can write faster when I write large texts etc. The thing is though that I can't change the keyboard layout to German (even if the Keyboard has a physical layout of German, the software keyboard layout is still English).
I can't find anything under the "Languages and Keyboard" settings so I'm currently a bit desperate.
How can I get my German configured android system to understand to use a "Germany layout keyboard" and not a "English layout"?
I really hope that someone can support me here...
Thanks
Hirrsson
PS: Please consider that I'm really a android newbie so I don't understand all the terms etc yet....
hello there to everyone
as this is my first post on this forum, i'd like to take this line to thank all of you whom share information, knowledge, and whatnot to all others: Thank You.
posting here to request the same informtion: pairing an external bluetooth keyboard forces said keyboard to be in english layout, whatever the keyboard. (in my case: french).
In locale the bluetooth keyboard does appears, offering Three settings, but none regarding layout.
I personaly see this as a feature that is lacking due to the fact that the os is intended to be primarily used via touchscreen keyboard; but i also think this feature is needed big time. now heading to official android feature request to see if it has been added to newer versions (am runing 2.3) and if not, request it.
I did this for my Stowaway Keyboard. It is a lot of work, you need root on your device, rootexplorer and Hexeditor.
I can guide you through if you wish.
Which phone? Which keyboard? What has to be changed? öäü? y-z ???
ALexander
Hello
I have Archos 70 and I want to useexternal Turkish keayboard or it is not possible, writing the letters (ö,ç,ş,ı,İ, ğ, ü) would be fine.
Could you advise the procedure in step by step since I am not so good at android.
Thank you in advance
Ömer