With my TyTN = Hermes and WM6.0 the autosuggestion of words seems much better than the Raphaels (at least in the hardware keybord stance).
Can someone explain why that is or if I have haven´t understood the utility or something else right?
With TyTN it basically suggests 4 alternatives in a diagonal way, it can be one word or SEVERAL words in a row, depending on what I´we written before. And you choose from them with the upp and down arrow keys. Simple and quick.
With Raphael it suggests several ONLY singular words horisontally, and if it´s not in the dictionary it automatically chooses another word than the one you´we just written (!?). Slow and awkward.
Also - who is behind this solution? Windows Mobile 6.1 or is it HTC Raphaels unique solution?
Thanks in advance
/Danne
Anybody have an opinion or information on this matter?
At least the system is a part of WM6.1 or if it´s Raphaels unique solution? Because I´m thinking about buying a Kaiser with WM6.1 instead and wonder if it has the same solution.
Sorry, no additional info, but I'm in the same boat so to speak.
I find it completely useless, specially since I don't always use English in my SMS messages, and I found that it becomes a nightmare if it doesn't find a match and then forces my word to something it thinks it should be.
What I cannot understand is that under Settings-Personal-Input-Word Completion - I have DISABLED it, but it still friking tries to complete my words, even in keyboard mode???
Do you know of another place to disable this dastardly excuse of a feature?
HAH!
Found it! If you want to disable it completely, the do the following:
1) make sure you disable it under settings - all settings - personal - Word Completion.
2) When you open a new message, bring up the virtual keyboard and look for the button that reads "ABC T9" - it has a toggle on the button, make sure it is on "ABC" and NOT T9 -voila!
Now I can SMS again!
I´m glad I was not the only one being irritated about this. But at least it´s possible to turn it off, so thanks for posting the solution Piie
I actually returned my TP because of this and severeal other reasons but I´m thinking about buying it again or some other WM6.1 phone. So do you know if your solution to turn if of works with Word Mobile documents as well?
And still, if somebody knows if it´s part of Raphael or WM6.1, please let me know.
Agreed 100% on the uselessness of word completion feature on the TP. On mine, the T9 feature actually slows the sms application so much as to make it completely unusable. This is probably my biggest complaint with this device.
Yip, following the steps as posted also removes the predictive text completely for Word ( and all other apps I have used so far)...
Thanks piie
I believe its part of the TP keyboard (SIP) not WM6.1 , when i had my kaiser with wm6.1 this "IRRITATING" issue was not there, but when i installed the diamond keyboard on my kaiser, this thing came out...... now its part of the TP because of its keyboard.......... so its HTC
I was getting annoyed with the behavior described in posts 1 and 2, disableds the whole thing too (I had an Excalibur before and it seemed to work far better on this particular aspect).
However, I decided to give the TP's T9 another shot and started changing it's configurations and finally got rid of the annoiance related: when on a text field, bring up the T9 options by pressing "Fn" + "Space", select "T9" settings and on the screen that appears uncheck the "Spell Correction" and "Auto-substitution" boxes.
Now I'm using the word prediction (T9) again just like I used in my old device, tipying much faster! (specially because I commonly write in portuguese and my keyboard is the UK one...).
Hope this helps you guys.
Cheers.
Sweet!
So you can still have predictive text, but remove the actual "irritant" of it overriding your word if it doesn't match it's dictionery - seems like that is the answer to your problem Danne?
For me - I really don't care for ANY kind of prediction - most often than not, even in English, the suggestions are maybe 30% usefull if that...
Great!
Yes, this is solution and now I know it´s part of Raphael/Diamond and not WM6.1!
Still, the Hermes WM6-solution with prediction of several words based on what you previously have written seems better. But I am happy with this!
I guess that´s the last words for me in this discussion.
Thanks guys!
just wondering how to disable word completion without installing htc ezinput, because at input settings by disabling it, doesn't work at all.
here's everything you need to know on how to get back to the old style autocorrect and change your dictionaries: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527
That however breaks your hardware keyboard
sym key will stop working and you can't get pound and euro sign using FN key....
see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470647
Hi all,
maybe I did something wrong but here's my experience with Resco keyboard 5.11
I installed the multi language version as it's supposed to support the Dutch language.
Whilst installing it asks for a language preference and Dutch is not in the list. F&*k-up #1
After installing, one can select a primary language and in that list I fount Dutch.
The Resco keyboard is default automatically after installing it.
Whenever I try to type a message with the Resco keyboard it persists in skipping letters in words every now and then which is more often that I like. Aka, multiple times a message. I disabled every form of correction in the general keyboard settings and in the resco keyboard settings just in case and I also lowered the gesture sensitivity to minimal but that doesn't help.
I found out there is no Dutch T9 support in Resco keyboard 5.11 so what the f^&k is multi lingual about it? That it supprorts the Euro sumbol? Wow
Whilst the keyboard itself when it works, works better aka easier than the standard TP on screen keyboard because of the nice spacing between the keys but that's just about everything that is great about it as it's nearly impossible to complete half a decent Dutch text message without manually correcting the forced spaces in the middle of words many times.
Am I the only one experiencing such a hard time with this keybard? I've installed it numerous times on several roms now and it keeps behaving the same.
Patrick
this has got nothing to do with diamond and youd be better putting it to resco
i have no problem with it (english)
youll probably need to make your own dutch t9 version, but surely it is in dutch...
did you try reinstalling?
although i tried changing language and nothing seemed to happen :s
Brendo said:
this has got nothing to do with diamond and youd be better putting it to resco
i have no problem with it (english)
youll probably need to make your own dutch t9 version, but surely it is in dutch...
did you try reinstalling?
although i tried changing language and nothing seemed to happen :s
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Well, this is the Raphael forum And I've only tried it on my Raphael (TP) and would like to know what experience others have with resco keyboard + the raphael so I'd say I'm in the right spot to ask.
Why would I have to make my own dutch t9 version when it is supposed to be multi-lingual with support for the Dutch language?
As stated, I tried installing it on numerous rom versions and reinstalling it too.
hehe, my bad, didnt mean diamond...meant it would be generic to all devices, not specific to touch pro
and resco forums would be the best place to ask
I'm on the look for a new keyboard as i've been using Resco Keyboard for a while now but find myself deviating from it slowly. It just has to many problems for me and i'm pretty sure there's something better out their that suits me.
Hello all!
I have the Fuze from AT&T, and I can't seem to find how to display asian webpages / music titles.
I don't want my whole phone to be changed, just the ability to show asian fonts instead of symbols! I tried adding chinese/korean/japanese fonts to Windows/Fonts folder, but that didn't help...
Anyone have a tutorial? I also checked htcwiki, but no one has the answer
Thanks a lot!
You need to link your fonts to the base font (Tahoma) by adding some registry entries. Instructions here:
http://leeblood.com/2008/02/16/windows-mobile-6-changing-the-system-font-adding-korean-support/
Keep in mind for MP3 tags (and possibly also other formats), the TF3d player (which uses WMP) also requires the ID3 tags be encoded in unicode in order to be read and displayed properly.
there is a file somewhere on this forum that allows you to view chinese, korean and thai. search for KoreChiThai
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Ok, I got my phone to display chinese/korean/japanese using korechithai.cab
but... now none of my keys are working!! Including the slideout keyboard, the home key, the back key, etc etc... It still lights up with i press the fn key or the shift/caps lock, but nothing shows up on the screen.
Also, the onscreen keyboard won't let me backspace, and letter recognizer is screwy too...
UGH... T.T HELP!!
Here is Chinese for you
Here I found something to display Chinese.
Works for sms and some system things (I currently got a Chinese Sim in my mobile). Didn't work for my Chinese e-mails though. Didn't test with websites... Found it as part of a Chinese translation program... But these are just the fonts not the program. You can find ChineseFont.cab on this page:
http://sites.google.com/site/wmdict/wm-dict-general/wm-dict-v20/wm-dict-v20-install-wm
Hope it works for you.
I didn't experience any problems. Again, this is not for input (I guess), just fonts to display.
Try CE-Star, it work, also you can write chinese too
CE-Star ... and what about Japanese, Chinese, Thai
Hi,
I tried CE-Star before and it wasn't really stable. Changed a lot of things on the phone such as fields and text sizes being incompatible. One being too large that is...
Yesterday I also installed the KorChiTha and the Japanese I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
However, I already had the cab I mentioned two posts ago and of course it froze my telephone needing a hard reset
Too eager and too impatient... anyway learned my lesson. Now I am looking for something like KorChiTha (which works fine for me by the way, I only use Chi and Tha) but with Chinese, Thai, and Japanese. This of course to run on my UK Raphael (well I bought it as HTC Touch Pro). These are the languages I need, I know a bit specific...
Does anyone know if there is this combination package somewhere? I don't want to crash everything again by combinging two different packages.
Thanks,
You can install fonts separately. Find three fonts that you like (Chinese traditional and/or simplified, Thai, and Japanese) and place them in your \Windows folder. Then add a reg key like so:
[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
Tahoma = (multi-line string value)
\Windows\msyh.ttf,MS Yahei
\Windows\cordiau.ttf,CordiaUPC
\Windows\msgothic.ttf,MS Gothic
Of course, substitute font filename and font name for whichever fonts you use. You may also need to create a similar key for "Courier New" if any of your apps use it as a base font and are also trying to display Chinese/Thai/Japanese.
CE Star problem and solution
Hey all,
I bought my TP in Hong Kong and it came with a version of CE-Start which I'm guessing was written for the Touch Pro. I say "written for" because:
1. I tried to install the version which came with my TP on my friends Diamond and it wouldn't install oh the Diamond.
2. Same friend that has a Diamond installed a version (not written for the Diamond)of CE Star and one day his Diamond's SMS messed up. From the TF3D screen, he could read the message but if he tried to open the SMS in Window's the page would just be white; no text no nothing and he couldn't write messages.
Googled the problem and found the answer:
Delete CE-Star and SMS can be read again in the Windows SMS app. He deleted CE-Star and what do you know, his SMS worked again.
Same thing happened to another friend that installed CE-Star on his older WM phone. I told him to delete CE-Star and his SMS worked again also.
Luckily so far, my phone has not experienced this problem; could be because of the version of CE-Star I have. Hopefully this won't happen to other CE-Star users but if you can't read SMS all of a sudden, CE-Star is probably why.
PS If you do get your TP in HK; the version of CE-Star on the Application CD doesn't work...I called HTC HK and the customer support lady said the wrong version was shipped with the TP. To get the correct version which will install on your TP, go to the HTC HK website and download it from the support section. I bought my TP and called HTC in October 2008, so maybe this version problem has been solved already.
?? Can't Read Chinese in the Calendar Notes Section
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
asdfjklqwerty said:
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
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Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
fhsieh said:
Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
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Hey fhsieh,
Thanks for the advice; I didn't even think about that.
Tried changing the regional settings to Hong Kong but the calendar notes section still displayed "???" in place of the Chinese characters. Numbers and letters of the alphabet display properly though.
Any other changes you can think that might help?
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
Awsome, thanks for the help again. I'm backing up my phone now and will try these regedits after work tonight. Hope things go well; I'll report later.
fhsieh said:
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
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Made the registry edits but "???" still show up in the notes section when I open a calendar entry.
The good news is that I didn't have to hard reset my TP. Seems like the only changes which occured are a mixed bag of font changes related to Windows menus. The Programs, Settings, Start Menu, calendar and call history, and the soft keys are all different fonts now: the lettering is "thinner." Other Windows apps like email, SMS, and Contacts have no font changes. Also, it seems that all the lettering in TF3D is not affected as well
Thanks again for the help fhsieh.
One more question: how do you have Japanese (other language) input? Did you have to install a Japanese reading/writing program or by IME do you mean the same thing I use to type Chinese in Windows with my keyboard? If I can use IME (if WM6.1 comes with a language pack), can I just install it like I do on XP?
Japanese, Chinese, Thai combination wanted...
Just refering to my posts above... is it possible to have the combination:
Japanese
Chinese
Thai
Like in the solution for KorChiTha..???
Thanks
I use the standard Microsoft Japanese IME, which I installed through a CAB. I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to ask so forgive me for just trying to be clear:
IME is not a program but a collection of dll files (and other system files, which add language and keyboard support) and registry settings (which load those files). There are programs that can do input without any special IME, but the input only works inside the program itself and will not work anywhere else in the system. 3rd party IMEs like CE-Star are the same, only they use their own dll files/settings.
Adding IMEs to WM is similar to adding keyboards to XP, but it is not the exact same. With XP, you can simply install regional support and add keyboards by inserting your XP disc. Microsoft does not provide such a disc for WM. But the required dll files / reg settings are pre-installed in certain phones (regional ROMs), so some people have extracted them to be able to install them to other phones that don't have it pre-installed.
With Japanese it's easy, since there is only one charset, one regional setting, and one set of keyboards (unless you want to use 3rd party IMEs). But with Chinese it's hard because of traditional/simplified, numerous regions and settings, and all kinds of keyboards (pin-yin, jyutping, four-corner, etc). CE-Star is a good alternative because it's just one single "suite" that can be used on practically any WM phone. But for that reason there will be small problems like the "???" character issue.
The benefit of Microsoft's own IME is that it may be able to avoid those problems. The trick is to figure out exactly which combination of traditional/simplified, regional support, and keyboards you want and then finding a package that has it (or finding the files setting it up yourself). Moreover, you may still have the same problems because not all packages are set up for every kind of ROM -- so there may be all sorts of other settings you need to change in order to get it working.
Still, if you want to try Microsoft's Chinese IME, a good place to start is Asukal's e-China package. You can also search XDA for Chinese IME threads. I would also recommend talking to some of the cooks who have setup Chinese ROMs, they will know better than I exactly which files you need and what settings. One of the newer Chinese ROMs is Jack's Chinese/Japanese Xperia ROM.
Relevant links:
http://www.asukal.jp/English/LocalizeCABS.htm
http://www.asukal.jp/Source.htm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Follow the instructions and then re-boot.