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MyTouch 4G Quadrant score

I got my hands on a MyTouch 4G today and quickly installed Quadrant to see what kind of score it would produce.
I got screen shots but don't have permission to post pics or links...

put it up on your facebook? or flicka?

I just want to know for sure if it's dual core or not. Nobody seems to know.

well, I have a screen shot of the CPU info too
try this
hxxp://tinypic.com/r/2wc34sy/7
hxxp://tinypic.com/r/15wce9k/7
same CPU as the G2, just clocked higher

Quadrant score of 1908
CPU: ARMv7 rev1 (v7l) @ 1024 MHz
Cores: 1
and by the way, I took these screen shots after installing Shoot Me, and using VISIONary to temp root the phone. VISIONary is amazing! it gave me temporary root in seconds.

what were your general impressions of the phone? Does it appear to have a super-lcd screen?

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/10/22/mytouch-4g-benchmark/

the phone was quick and responsive. not sure about the screen, but it looked very similar to the G2 screen in my opinion, if that helps. the video calling with Qik worked better on WiFi than on 3G or HSPA (which would be expected), but I wouldn't say it was crystal clear. Overall it was nice and solid, and not as "plastic" feeling as previous MyTouch's

t-mobile employees got their hands on them last week when they did sort of a essay entry thing on why they should get the device, the winners were awarded with the device... It should be released for pre order within the next 2 weeks or so...

mark manning said:
We already know from tmobile it is not the same processor, You must not be very smart because the G2 has a qualcomm MSM7230 and the mytouch has a MSM8255
Oh and no need to lie to look cool, you never got your hands on one!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8698703&postcount=19
Leaked ROM above from the myTouch4G says otherwise. Absolutely no need to be condescending, and screenies look legit. Perhaps you're not very smart, acting like a jerk based on rumors and no facts?

These quadrant scores prove that it is shipping with 2.2

chewy106 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8698703&postcount=19
Leaked ROM above from the myTouch4G says otherwise. Absolutely no need to be condescending, and screenies look legit. Perhaps you're not very smart, acting like a jerk based on rumors and no facts?
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But what about the official statement from TMO?
"Designed by HTC exclusively for T-Mobile, the new myTouch features a brilliant 3.8-inch WVGA touch-screen display with virtual keyboard and Swype® for easy text input. The thin and sleek device also comes with a blazing fast second-generation Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 1GHz MSM8255 processor optimized for speed and graphic performance, a 5-megapixel camera, a preinstalled 8 GB microSD memory card, and an integrated media player that brings together favorite music, video and internet radio under one set of controls."
Link: http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-HSPA/Announcing-the-new-T-Mobile-myTouch/td-p/493446
Tmo could post it wrong though.

Whosdaman said:
These quadrant scores prove that it is shipping with 2.2
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It did ship with 2.2 and tethering which the G2 lacked. This phone rocks. I've been using it as my dd for a week now and I have to admit that I'm very satisfied.
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nidjol said:
It did ship with 2.2 and tethering which the G2 lacked. This phone rocks. I've been using it as my dd for a week now and I have to admit that I'm very satisfied.
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Another reason why I became mod of this device

This phone flies!!
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Oh... this is kililng me! Someone (either T-mobile or devs) need to step up and say "Ok, we admit it, we made a mistake. This phone has MSM XXXX processor!
With that said...
I am pretty much set on this device (in black!) but I'm waiting to play with it in the store and getting rock-solid info on specs and ease of real root. I hate to say it but I am also considering HD2 with Android due to it's 4.3" screen and T-mobile not getting a real 4.3" screen Android phone until next year. Decisions, decisions...

borodin1 said:
Oh... this is kililng me! Someone (either T-mobile or devs) need to step up and say "Ok, we admit it, we made a mistake. This phone has MSM XXXX processor!
With that said...
I am pretty much set on this device (in black!) but I'm waiting to play with it in the store and getting rock-solid info on specs and ease of real root. I hate to say it but I am also considering HD2 with Android due to it's 4.3" screen and T-mobile not getting a real 4.3" screen Android phone until next year. Decisions, decisions...
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Well does it matter? And which one is everyone hoping for. the 8XXX or the 7XXX? If they are both GHZ, does it matter?

Whosdaman said:
Well does it matter? And which one is everyone hoping for. the 8XXX or the 7XXX? If they are both GHZ, does it matter?
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As far as Ghz go... Snapdragon is 1Ghz proc and G2 runs circles around it with 800Mhz. So yes, it does matter which generation proc we get.
Then again, it's all about how phone feels in real life, that's the main reason I want to wait. I went to the store to check out HD2 when it was released. Oh boy was it a beast on paper. Oh boy what a dissapointment in real life.
Still, can't wait for MT4G

Snapdragon is 8XXX right?

They are all snapdragons, just different generation/architectures of the cpu and different configurations of cpu/gpu. I'm not really good with all that naming/code bs but from what I know, newer Snapdragons (the ones in G2 and MT4G) are way faster then older ones (N1, Evo, Incredible, etc) at the same clock speed. Think Intel Celeron and Pentium4 difference. But it's not all about speed neither. There's more to it, just check out the link.
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
But, after seeing wirefly's video of MT4G, I don't even care anymore. Comes next week, I'll be picking mine up. In black.

G2 is & MT4G is NOT on the Maps 5 list. Why???

Google just showed the impressive new features of Google Maps along with the compatibility list of phones for all the new fetures. The G2 is on the list but the MT4G is NOT. Anyone know what are the GPU differences between the two?? Clearly the G2 must have something that the MT4G does not. I'm nearing my return period and I'm thinking that other than the lack of microSD slot on the Nexus S, the fact that the MT4G is not on the full compatibility list for Maps 5 may push me over the edge to return the MT4G and get the Nexus S.
So please someone talk me out of it. What exactly do all those phones below (including the G2) have in common in GPU features that the MT4G does not. BTW, here is the complete list of Maps 5 full compatibility list:
Google sent us a list of devices that support 100 percent of 5.0's features, which you can find after the break. The update is due out in the "coming days," according to Rubin. Great way to kick off Nexus S' launch, then.
Google Maps for Mobile 5.0
* Galaxy S
* Droid
* Droid X
* Droid 2
* Droid Incredible
* Evo
* Nexus S
* G2

larryvand said:
Google just showed the impressive new features of Google Maps along with the compatibility list of phones for all the new fetures. The G2 is on the list but the MT4G is NOT. Anyone know what are the GPU differences between the two?? Clearly the G2 must have something that the MT4G does not. I'm nearing my return period and I'm thinking that other than the lack of microSD slot on the Nexus S, the fact that the MT4G is not on the full compatibility list for Maps 5 may push me over the edge to return the MT4G and get the Nexus S.
So please someone talk me out of it. What exactly do all those phones below (including the G2) have in common in GPU features that the MT4G does not. BTW, here is the complete list of Maps 5 full compatibility list:
Google sent us a list of devices that support 100 percent of 5.0's features, which you can find after the break. The update is due out in the "coming days," according to Rubin. Great way to kick off Nexus S' launch, then.
Google Maps for Mobile 5.0
* Galaxy S
* Droid
* Droid X
* Droid 2
* Droid Incredible
* Evo
* Nexus S
* G2
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Possible goggles made that list before the mt4g was released seeing as its same processor as g2 I'm pretty sure we will be seeing the update
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lol so you would return your phone if it doesn't support a single app you sir are hilarious the fact that evo is on the list is a clue that the mt4g IS supported dont worry the mt4g will get it all with or without google's blessings

vdub804 said:
lol so you would return your phone if it doesn't support a single app you sir are hilarious the fact that evo is on the list is a clue that the mt4g IS supported dont worry the mt4g will get it all with or without google's blessings
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Actually the reason why I'm looking at the Nexus S is not just the Maps app that I use regularly and it's new caching feature in version 5. It's also the NFC chip and the big one the fact that the nexus S will be getting updates as soon as Google gets a new version out. How long do you think before the MT4G sees 2.3 let alone interim releases after that? My guess is that Nexus Google phones will have a much longer life span than any other manufacturer's phone. And that's just based on how quick the Nexus One been getting updates.

larryvand said:
Actually the reason why I'm looking at the Nexus S is not just the Maps app that I use regularly and it's new caching feature in version 5. It's also the NFC chip and the big one the fact that the nexus S will be getting updates as soon as Google gets a new version out. How long do you think before the MT4G sees 2.3 let alone interim releases after that? My guess is that Nexus Google phones will have a much longer life span than any other manufacturer's phone. And that's just based on how quick the Nexus One been getting updates.
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Yes and no, Don't forget about the poor plasticky build quality of the samsungs, and all the problems of the vibrant. I would not dare give up mine for a Nexus S simply for the lack of dual core processor, No HSPA+, No SD Card, No 786 Mb of RAM.
As for the updates we will get them faster than you think. Now since we are rooted the dev can get a hold of the update for us much faster.

larryvand said:
Actually the reason why I'm looking at the Nexus S is not just the Maps app that I use regularly and it's new caching feature in version 5. It's also the NFC chip and the big one the fact that the nexus S will be getting updates as soon as Google gets a new version out. How long do you think before the MT4G sees 2.3 let alone interim releases after that? My guess is that Nexus Google phones will have a much longer life span than any other manufacturer's phone. And that's just based on how quick the Nexus One been getting updates.
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I would guess that by the time nfc takes off, you'll be several phones past the nexus s. Also, as for updates....look how that worked out for the N1 and maps 5

I think that list is FOS. There is no way the original Droid would get the new maps and not the N1. Considering the N1 processes graphics better than the Droid, and N1 is Google baby.
People often forget that the manufacturers don't really decide what goes where anymore. Devs run this $#!t woot woot!

I love how every thread in the MT4G forums slowly evolves into PRO vs CONS battle between the Nexus S and the MT4G, regardless of what the topic of the thread started as.. hah ha a

21productionz said:
I think that list is FOS. There is no way the original Droid would get the new maps and not the N1. Considering the N1 processes graphics better than the Droid, and N1 is Google baby.
People often forget that the manufacturers don't really decide what goes where anymore. Devs run this $#!t woot woot!
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Nexus one doesn't support everything 100% which is why its not on the list but it will get the maps! Just because a phone isn't on the list doesn't mean it won't get the update it just means that it may not support every single new feature
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If you're replying all in the same thread and on the same topic, why do ppl still find it necessary to quote the previous poster? Waste of space imo..
And yea the mt4g will be supported, there's just so many devices that they aren't gonna bother listing all of them since they basically have the same specs.. duh. They took a leap and thought ppl might be smart enough to figure that one out.

Aspeds2989 said:
If you're replying all in the same thread and on the same topic, why do ppl still find it necessary to quote the previous poster? Waste of space imo..
And yea the mt4g will be supported, there's just so many devices that they aren't gonna bother listing all of them since they basically have the same specs.. duh. They took a leap and thought ppl might be smart enough to figure that one out.
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You quote someone when you want to make it clear that you're addressing their post specifically and not just contributing to the conversation as a whole.
The list is for devices that will support 100% of the features of maps 5. Not just which will will be able to use it in a somehow-limited manner. For instance, the N1 isn't on the list because the way its digitizer supports multitouch will limit its functionality using maps 5.
Really, the only question is, is there something about the hardware of the MT4G that doesn't put it on the list of 100% feature support, or is it just an oversight since it is a relatively new device?

I am pretty certain that the MT4G wil have full functionality with Maps 5. When the Nexus One came out there was a lot of talk about how the touch screen that it had was not the best at the time. It has limited touch capabilities and that was a big complaint that many people had when the N1 launched. I figure that it was not a big problem until now.

Nevermind.

bobsbbq said:
Yes and no, Don't forget about the poor plasticky build quality of the samsungs, and all the problems of the vibrant. I would not dare give up mine for a Nexus S simply for the lack of dual core processor, No HSPA+, No SD Card, No 786 Mb of RAM.
As for the updates we will get them faster than you think. Now since we are rooted the dev can get a hold of the update for us much faster.
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I completely agree. No SD storage, no HSPA+, 512MB of RAM...laughable for a N1 successor...IMHO.
I will keep my MT4G and for anyone jumping ship for the lousy new Nexus from Sammy....good luck. I'll pop in the forums to see all the issues you're having and laugh.
Sammy has a horrible reputation for sucking. MT4G rocks.

smonme said:
Possible goggles made that list before the mt4g was released seeing as its same processor as g2 I'm pretty sure we will be seeing the update
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The G2 and the MyTouchHD DO NOT have the same processor.
From Cyanogen's Wiki
MyTouchHD
1 GHz Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon processor with Adreno 205 GPU
HTC Vision
800 MHz Qualcomm MSM7230 2nd Generation Snapdragon processor

according to engadget, the nexus one supports the dynamic map but does not support two finger scrolling....worse come worse, that will be our case too but we will still get the dynamic maps
hopefully we can get the two finger scrolling too
engadget : http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/google-maps-for-mobile-5-unveiled-adds-dynamic-map-drawing-and/

neidlinger said:
The G2 and the MyTouchHD DO NOT have the same processor.
From Cyanogen's Wiki
MyTouchHD
1 GHz Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon processor with Adreno 205 GPU
HTC Vision
800 MHz Qualcomm MSM7230 2nd Generation Snapdragon processor
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dude! srsly?

from this site:
h t t p://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/100-msm7x30-msm7230-msm7630-msm8x55-msm8255-msm8655-and-qsd8x50a-qsd8250a-qsd8650a-are-qualcomms-2nd-gen-snapdragon-processors-how-fast-are-they/[/url]
Snapdragon is a family of mobile processors by Qualcomm. Currently, all Snapdragon processors are based on ARM Cortex A8 design.
2nd generation
MSM7x30, MSM8x55 and QSD8x50A - all 3 variations share the same design, differs only by the clock speeds. These 3 variations run at 800MHz, 1.0GHz and 1.3GHz respectively. Each of these features Adreno 205 GPU which runs at significantly higher performance level than Adreno 200 found in the 1st generation Snapdragon processor.
..........
MSM7x30 is used by T-Mobile's HTC G2, HTC Desire Z and Verizon's HTC Lexikon/HTC Merge. MSM8x55 is used by T-Mobile's HTC myTouch HD and HTC Desire HD. QSD8x50A is rumored to be used by HTC Mondrian which will feature Windows Phone 7 OS.
All 2nd generation processors are manufactured using 45nm technology.
So yeah... they're the same processor with the same GPU.

clamder said:
from this site:
h t t p://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/100-msm7x30-msm7230-msm7630-msm8x55-msm8255-msm8655-and-qsd8x50a-qsd8250a-qsd8650a-are-qualcomms-2nd-gen-snapdragon-processors-how-fast-are-they/[/url]
Snapdragon is a family of mobile processors by Qualcomm. Currently, all Snapdragon processors are based on ARM Cortex A8 design.
2nd generation
MSM7x30, MSM8x55 and QSD8x50A - all 3 variations share the same design, differs only by the clock speeds. These 3 variations run at 800MHz, 1.0GHz and 1.3GHz respectively. Each of these features Adreno 205 GPU which runs at significantly higher performance level than Adreno 200 found in the 1st generation Snapdragon processor.
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MSM7x30 is used by T-Mobile's HTC G2, HTC Desire Z and Verizon's HTC Lexikon/HTC Merge. MSM8x55 is used by T-Mobile's HTC myTouch HD and HTC Desire HD. QSD8x50A is rumored to be used by HTC Mondrian which will feature Windows Phone 7 OS.
All 2nd generation processors are manufactured using 45nm technology.
So yeah... they're the same processor with the same GPU.
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Thanks cause I felt like he was trying to heart my feelings lol, only difference in stock g2 and mytouch 4G is the speed its clocked at .
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HTC makes some nice phones but they also have there problems.g2 hingegate
mt4g screen problems n1 has ****y touch screen,Ive owned a g1 before never impressed with it.mytouch slide was plastic.To me HTC is pumping out some cheap **** and milking it for all its worth.Maybe with Samsung in town they will upgrade there stuff.And just cuz the phone is made out of alumium doesnt mean crap.
Nexus S fixed all problems Galaxy S had.Only 2 things missing for me is LED and im not a fan of the plastic stuff either but with a case who cares.

Highest Specced Phone Of The Last Half Decade

Name The Phone That Was/Is In Your Opinion The Highest Specced Phone
IMPORTANT!!
Don't Just Look At The Highest Specced Phone Today But Look At How The Phones Were Specced RELATIVE To The Year They Came Out And Pick The Phone That You Think Was/Is The Highest Specced Phone That Has Come Out In The Last 5 Years
I'll Start Out With two Examples
In No Particular Order:
n95(Released in 2007); Explanation: F*ck The iPhone
Meizu MX4 (Announced In Q2 2011) Explanation: Quadcore in 2011!!!!!!!!!!

HD2 nuff said

iPhone in 2007 (capacitive screen, multitouch, proximity sensor, accelerometer etc.)
and of course... the mighty HD2
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+1 for HD2
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HTC Sensation made the jump from average screen resolution and 1ghz processors to the amazing dual core speed and was one of HTC's best designed phones with excellent support, basically the new mighty HD2

There are only 2 phones that have already been mentioned that top this list and tie for each other. The iPhone (as much as I hate to admit it) and the HD2. The iPhone brought about the multi touch glass screens, the UI, and the simplicity. The HD2 brought us speed, storage, customization and functionality.

what about Iphone?

Defy maybe...
Officially only got buggy Froyo from Motorola... but rocks ICS with a locked bootloader!! that is pretty ironic!!
+1 for hd2 and meizu
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May Smith said:
what about Iphone?
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I agree the iPhone might have been a contender but Don't forget even though it had many new components, it was missing some standard abilities. For example 3g and smsing images. Also other phones were coming out with the same tech at the same time
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HD2 ^^

At the Time, The HD2 was by far ahead of its time, many of our phones now can't even dual boot roms but the hd2 can.
The next phone will be the Lg Lte2

You all seem to be a little young to remember what got all this started in the first place*.
(*Not really the absolut beginning but getting allot of momentum for the Forum)
The mighty HTC BlueAngel
I personaly would list the Hardware Cornerstones as the following: (Not necessarily Software, for that we had XDA)
iPaq H3870, BlueAngel, TyTN 2, HD2, ...., Galaxy Note, .....
HTC BlueAngel (great Hardware)
HTC TyTN 2 (next great Hardware)
HTC HD2 (The Last of the Mohicans)
..... (Dident had to / wanted to change to Android until the Galaxy Note was released)
Samsung Galaxy Note (One of the first besides the iphone 4s to have Glonass support / besides the unsurpassed Screensize)
...... (Galaxy Note will hopefully last until the next great phone comes out)

Thaxtonator said:
HTC Sensation made the jump from average screen resolution and 1ghz processors to the amazing dual core speed and was one of HTC's best designed phones with excellent support, basically the new mighty HD2
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I have to agree with the fact that the HD2 was the highest specced phone but the Sensation didn't bring nothing except the screen resolution, dual core speed was brought by the LG Optimus 2x, and that Sensation's resolution is nothing compared to the iPhone 4, so the Sensation brought nothing new to the game.

mike21pr said:
iPhone in 2007 (capacitive screen, multitouch, proximity sensor, accelerometer etc.)
and of course... the mighty HD2
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n95 Sh*ts On The First iPhone
You're Right With The HD2 Tho

whitehooptie said:
There are only 2 phones that have already been mentioned that top this list and tie for each other. The iPhone (as much as I hate to admit it) and the HD2. The iPhone brought about the multi touch glass screens, the UI, and the simplicity. The HD2 brought us speed, storage, customization and functionality.
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I Said Highest SPECCED Not Best In Class

vcrp94 said:
I have to agree with the fact that the HD2 was the highest specced phone but the Sensation didn't bring nothing except the screen resolution, dual core speed was brought by the LG Optimus 2x, and that Sensation's resolution is nothing compared to the iPhone 4, so the Sensation brought nothing new to the game.
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I Disagree
Continuous Autofocus On A 8MP Camera
Asynchronous Dualcore Processor
Qualcomm Adreno 220 GPU
HTC Sense 3.0

swiss420 said:
You all seem to be a little young to remember what got all this started in the first place*.
(*Not really the absolut beginning but getting allot of momentum for the Forum)
The mighty HTC BlueAngel
I personaly would list the Hardware Cornerstones as the following: (Not necessarily Software, for that we had XDA)
iPaq H3870, BlueAngel, TyTN 2, HD2, ...., Galaxy Note, .....
HTC BlueAngel (great Hardware)
HTC TyTN 2 (next great Hardware)
HTC HD2 (The Last of the Mohicans)
..... (Dident had to / wanted to change to Android until the Galaxy Note was released)
Samsung Galaxy Note (One of the first besides the iphone 4s to have Glonass support / besides the unsurpassed Screensize)
...... (Galaxy Note will hopefully last until the next great phone comes out)
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I Said In The Last 5 Years
The Blue Angel Is Almost A Decade Old

Nokia PureView and that impossible 41MP camera. Just the one spec though.
Me thinks Optimus Me,for proving you didn't need cheap Chinese build quality on a low end smartphone
The Galaxy Note for pushing screen size limits
The HTC G1,first proper Droid me thinks
The Nokia N95,last truly proper Nokia market beater
And Nokia N9, for being the best that never was.
Imetumwa kutoka U8150 kutumia XDA

Lizman said:
I Said In The Last 5 Years
The Blue Angel Is Almost A Decade Old
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True it is 9 years old but since we just got Gingerbread for it it does not feel that old and I did mention a few others. But dont worry you dont have to consider the BlueAngel if it is too old for you.

Lizman said:
I Disagree
Continuous Autofocus On A 8MP Camera
Asynchronous Dualcore Processor
Qualcomm Adreno 220 GPU
HTC Sense 3.0
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My old Sony Ericsson Xperia X10i had Countinuous Autofocus and it was 8mp, (2010 btw), the dualcore processor in the Sensation isn't as fast as the other dual cores it only manages to keep up because the higher clock speed (1.5ghz vs 1.2ghz(exynos) and 1.0ghz (tegra 2), and Sense, i though this thread was about hardware specs..

How much more can mobile hardware advance?

Ok guys,
I'm due an upgrade in August, but I don't know whether to pass out on it.
I currently have a Desire S. It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core... But if I get it, it will have to last me at least 2 years. That's a big decision to make. I've only had my Desire S 11 months, and I already stayed feeling the need to upgrade.
I need a faster CPU to keep up with android demands, and a larger screen.
The thing is, if I get the One S, how outdated will it be?
From what I see, dual core has a huge advantage over single core.
But quad core not so much over dual core... (Or maybe android isn't making good use of it)
What's next for the move in smartphones? 8 cores seems unlikely... So what will be next? If nothing big comes along, will the One S and its dual core chip still be good enough to last me 2 years?
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I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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invasion2 said:
I'd wait until HTC announces a new, better phone than the One series. Bit the Ones are great phones, you can't go wrong with them.
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Thanks, but what significant hardware improvements will HTC bring?
How will it differ greatly from the current range?
That leaves my other concern, is 10GB in the One S enough to last me 2 years? I've gotten by on a 8GB SD card on my Desire S...
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I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.

lowandbehold said:
I would probably wait for a phone with 2GB or RAM such as the US version of the S3. Dual or quad core with 2gb or RAM should be good for at least 2 years.
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So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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olyloh6696 said:
It's got quite old hardware, a single core chip. I'm a heavy user of my phone, so it has to do many things for me - web browsing, email, etc.
I can't afford a quad core highend phone. So I'm thinking of getting a One S. It's only dual core...
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I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.

sitizenx said:
I use Windows Phone 7.5 so I don't have to OBSESS about cores. I don't need 4 cores to check email whether I check email once a day or once a minute. Sorry I can't help.
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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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olyloh6696 said:
So you are saying RAM is gonna make a huge difference?
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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.

Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.

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Yeah, I see where u are coming from, but this isn't the case with android... It NEEDs the cores to have a smooth experience...
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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.

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I think it will eventually. We are becoming more and more dependent on our phones. We want them to sync facebook, use GPS, listen to music and text at the same time. Once the software catches up to the hardware, there will only be more things to add to our multi tasking...more RAM is definitely the way to go.
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
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Honestly, I'd say pick the one that has the best battery life, useability and moddability. Most of these smartphones nowadays are neck and neck imo. So you may as well get the one that you can customize the hell out of and will net you what you consider acceptable battery life.
If you want two cores you can probably score a deal on a Galaxy S II I saw "Fire-Sales" in London where they were going for £180 - £220. I recently picked up my Galaxy S I for £100 new in box. Also don't forget devices like the Optimus 2x or the Atrix 4G.
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Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Thanks mate. I read that the SGS3 struggles with RAM (1GB version) as the new skin is so heavy, that the launcher constantly withdraws etc.
Thanks man! Fire-sales - can you be more direct please? Are these brand new from retail shops? I had my eye on the SGS2 aswell...
Where can I look around?
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Oh when I wrote my post (you probably missed it on the previous page) I was making the assume that you wanted to go HTC only. If you are willing to go for an SGS2, that would definitely beat a Sensation IMO.

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I would very strongly disagree with that. I'm using my HD2 which has hardware about a year and a half older than the Desire S (basically an older generation CPU and GPU, approximately 200Mb less RAM, Windows Mobile as stock) and it runs ICS (CM9) very smoothly. It's been three years since it's release and it's still going strong. There is a potential One V Alpha build and I think Jelly Bean (or whatever the next iteration of Android will be called) is quite possible for the HD2. I think that the One S is a poor choice, because you might as well just get a Sensation which has essentially the same hardware as the One S and has the added benefits of being cheaper, having a bigger developer base (I think) and having a menu button (which is a lot more useful than you'd think, the onscreen one is very ugly ). Whether or not this will last you 2 years on official software I don't know, but I reckon it'll last a good couple of years. The only problem is if the devs move off of the Sensation and on to a new phone.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.

Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't use AOSP ROMs. I use full Sense ROMs, so the phone is slower, I use it heavily for web browsing, and gaming etc. I've noticed the browser is never as smooth as a dual core phone. I use my phone extensively, therefore, I like fluid performance, and for me android on a single core doesn't satisfy MY needs.
Also you are slightly off... The One S is far ahead of the Sensation. It uses a S4 chip compared to the S3 in the Sensation with a much newer CPU and GPU, it's much much more efficient, and currently the best dual core chip... That's why I wanted to choose that...
Dev support Is decent for the One S.
I'm open to all android manufacturers. (Actually. Only Samsung or HTC)
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.

eksasol said:
The specs for all flagship phones are all very good now, maybe a little saturated. The important thing is the advancement in software. There is still no LibreOffice or full Adobe Photoshop or AutoCAD for Android. Fanboys will get mad reading this, but Android needs vast improvement in interface speed, look at Windows Phone running on single core devices and their boot time.
Phones will keep getting better because it will be the main 'PC' for everyone in the future (if not already now). People will carry it with them then dock it to do more productive tasks. Which is what Ubuntu is trying to do with Android.
For me personally, the Nexus still gives me the most freedom and most up to date Android version, so no reason to buy anything else yet.
The best example of hardware ahead of software is the next iPhone, no matter how high res or fast it is, its still an iPhone running on closed source iOS, so I won't buy it.
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Yeah I agree with you. It's a shame OEMs don't provide software updates to the phones though, even though they are far capable. The One S is likely to receive Jellybean... But what about Key Lime Pie in the future?
That's where my problem lies. In 2 years, support will be dead. Also, I know you can use custom ROMs etc, but they are never perfect, as you need the official kernel source from HTC so the ROM cam be stable.
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Is cutting edge hardware really that necessary? If you noticed, Google is the responsible for pushing the envelope and forcing more powerful hardware with less battery life and so. Remeber what happened to Honeycomb? Running slow and sluggish even on the platform it was specifically made for. Or wondering why the old Tegra cpu has some lag on ICS when the most recent S4 and Exynos quad core doesn't? Is there a reason for a dual core smartphone (HTC One S) to score higher than a quad core(HTC One X)? Our modern cutting edge phones are bigger, with objectionable battery life and can barely fit in our pockets.
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Well, I don't like to be behind in technology. When I compare my Desire S to say, a SGS2, it makes me weep seeing how much faster the SGS is. That's why my question, will hardware improve much from quad core? For me, dual core to quad core is a much smaller jump, than single to dual.
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Yeah, I don't use Sense for the reason that I find it sluggish. I've used my Mum's desire S now and again purely to see how good Sense is and whether or not to flash it, and it's always just seemed too slow for me, and since your hardware is of a newer generation I doubt my phone would cope well. However, with CM9 it genuinely is fast and smooth. The best performance improvement I've noticed over CM7/GB is in the browser, where I find the smoothness and the zooming comparable with an SGS3.
The One S is far ahead of the Sensation, you're right (actually it scores higher quadrant scores than a Sensation as well I think) but the only problem I'd have with a One S is simply that I don't know whether or not it's necessary to pay extra when you can pick up a Sensation relatively cheaply. In day-to-day performance I don't know whether or not you'll notice it tbh.
Perhaps an SGS2 would be better then, or maybe as suggested above a GNex.
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Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, I was thinking of the SGS2, for me the browser is far from what the SGS2 offers. There's a good video on YouTube,
Desire S vs SGS2 web browsing... Just watch the difference and you will kno what I mean!
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I'm looking forward to see what Intel will do for mobile platforms now that they have joined in, they are new to mobile development but it seems like they are working on there hyper threading tech on there socs, sending 2 commands per core like there desktop PC chips (1 core processing the same amount of information that two cores would do). The next 24 months will be an exciting time for the mobile market!
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Suggestion of the best android phone?

Hello,
I want to upgrade my phone to high end android (have been using windows mobile 6.5.3 and android 2.3.7 )
so i have looked over some thing like 20 phones and i could not pick one that will i will be able to like my own child .
The problem is mainly since all the phones have the same price, ie,. the htc desire HD have 4,3" display and 1 ghz cpu while the LG optimus 2x have the same 3.4" display but with dual core cpu and over eBay the price is the same for me, so what to choose HTC or a little cheaper LG ?
And that effects all phone so if you pls can you suggest me some phones and a reason why you have suggested them over other phones.
I prefer bid displays over 4.0" and thin around ~10mm
I am asking since i will buy a phone which will stay with me over several years before i will choose to replace it,
(got stack with Moto Defy with 3 year contract - and its bad .. very bad... )
thank you for any help.

HTC for sure. I believe them to be second best to Samsung phones at this point. All you have to do is look at user reviews.
mri.project said:
Hello,
I want to upgrade my phone to high end android (have been using windows mobile 6.5.3 and android 2.3.7 )
so i have looked over some thing like 20 phones and i could not pick one that will i will be able to like my own child .
The problem is mainly since all the phones have the same price, ie,. the htc desire HD have 4,3" display and 1 ghz cpu while the LG optimus 2x have the same 3.4" display but with dual core cpu and over eBay the price is the same for me, so what to choose HTC or a little cheaper LG ?
And that effects all phone so if you pls can you suggest me some phones and a reason why you have suggested them over other phones.
I prefer bid displays over 4.0" and thin around ~10mm
I am asking since i will buy a phone which will stay with me over several years before i will choose to replace it,
(got stack with Moto Defy with 3 year contract - and its bad .. very bad... )
thank you for any help.
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cuseme said:
HTC for sure. I believe them to be second best to Samsung phones at this point. All you have to do is look at user reviews.
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Okay, but does single core 1ghz cpu is real important or i have to buy dual core cpu ?

mri.project said:
Okay, but does single core 1ghz cpu is real important or i have to buy dual core cpu ?
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I would definitely go with a dual core and I would agree that HTC is better than LG. If your going to play any graphic intensive games you definitely need a dual core processor with at least 1G of RAM. A quad core processor is the way to go if your outside the U.S.
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marifb said:
Search xda dev thread for each of your choice, and choose one which has most development that will make it life longer.
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i have tried to search for the best option . like the HTC HD2 which developers just can't get enough of it.
but the phone is old, Galaxy s 1 is way too expansive for a 2 years old phone, and the HTC is a general expensive device.
So i could find only the LG Nitro which is a good phone for its $ .. $470 for a 4.5" HD with dual core cpu and 10mm thick, can't find any thing better..
HTC are mostly fat devices and i can't see any reason why but the thin cost as double as $550 .. and onlt 480-800 res. while the LG is
around 1280x720 res.
see my problem?
Besides it all the phones run Android so there is not problem modding it , and the Nitro have Cyanogen 9.0 support so it should be solid for a while.

mri.project said:
Hello,
I want to upgrade my phone to high end android (have been using windows mobile 6.5.3 and android 2.3.7 )
so i have looked over some thing like 20 phones and i could not pick one that will i will be able to like my own child .
The problem is mainly since all the phones have the same price, ie,. the htc desire HD have 4,3" display and 1 ghz cpu while the LG optimus 2x have the same 3.4" display but with dual core cpu and over eBay the price is the same for me, so what to choose HTC or a little cheaper LG ?
And that effects all phone so if you pls can you suggest me some phones and a reason why you have suggested them over other phones.
I prefer bid displays over 4.0" and thin around ~10mm
I am asking since i will buy a phone which will stay with me over several years before i will choose to replace it,
(got stack with Moto Defy with 3 year contract - and its bad .. very bad... )
thank you for any help.
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Have you heard about mi-two? Google for it to find more information. Generally it looks awesome with 4 cores clocked at 1,5GHz, Adreno320 GPU, 4,3" IPS display with ~340dpi (30% more the iPhone4S) and great battery capacity. The only problem is that it might not be easily available outside China. But if I will be able to get one I will do it without thinking much about it.

The Optimus 2x is a 4 inch 800x480 screen, not 4.3
Anyway, due to ****ty support from LG, prices for it have absolutely tanked.. It's now available from $200-300 outright.
The good news? ICS is coming out very soon for it (rumored). Apparently it's in the testing stage.
So might be a very cheap way for you to get a fairly high end dual core for stuff all money.

dyleck said:
Have you heard about mi-two? Google for it to find more information. Generally it looks awesome with 4 cores clocked at 1,5GHz, Adreno320 GPU, 4,3" IPS display with ~340dpi (30% more the iPhone4S) and great battery capacity. The only problem is that it might not be easily available outside China. But if I will be able to get one I will do it without thinking much about it.
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Xiaomi mi-two $550 preorder now on eBay. it will be cheaper for me to GS III OR HTC ONE X i just don't like these devices - gs iii due to plastic and htc one x due to 16 giga with out micro sd card memory while i use around 40 giga on a phone.
any way i just thought you could suggest me a device and a reason why it is better then LG and so far i see that they are non, i never saw a company which give any support for a phone... so i am not looking for support .
Any way thank you all i have decided to buy the LG device the Nitro - looks great and cheaper then most devices. btw LG is also manufacturing Apple and Samsung mobile parts so i can't see why it should be worth quality.

Buy HTC One X. It is a really cool phone !!!

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