So I have had andromeda 2.0 orange themed for about a week and I can honestly say this is the best rom I have ever used on my captivate. it runs ultra smooth and has great gps and wifi locking time
Andromeda 2.0 rom
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Glad you like it. Probably would be better if posted in the Andromeda thread.
Welcome to XDA!!
I tried at first, said i did not have permission to post there
Its definitely my daily use rom for a long time. I'm glad to say i can stop my flashing addiction for awhile! Thanks, I finally switched over from the iphone to the world of android and couldn't be happier. Theres nothing like this place, open source feels so right
Thank you for making your first post a good one. Tired of seeing all the help me first posts. I'm on andromeda too. This thing is so smooth. Agree with you man. Got at least 40 roms on my laptop that I've tried, and of all of em, this rom is the most snappy one of all.
Yeah I said it, most snappy.
Edit, btw 10 posts under your belt and you can post in development
I'm using andromeda as well, very impressive
Same here. Best battery life yet and solid GPS.
I am a fan of the ROM. Having trouble restoring all my settings though. I'm determined to get it to work though. I've tried Phoenix Rising and liked it but had less than ideal battery life... This ROM is snappy and I really enjoy the fonts and animations... great all around.
Agreed! Andromeda is a great ROM. I also tried posting on the official thread, but I'm a newbie too. Also came from iPhone, and don't think I'll be looking back anytime soon Was disappointed with the Captivate at first in stock form, but the people here at XDA make it great!
Mikes roms are pretty sweet too. Should check him out.
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Mikes roms are pretty sweet too. Should check him out.
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+1 for MikeyMike's roms. He is a great dev and his roms don't have any BS in them, very clean!! Serendipity is also one of the most "complete" themes from a fresh flash that I have ever encountered. Themed everything, calculator, calender, dialer, contacts, everything he could get his hands on. He even took the time (w/ ChanceM) to remove video call options from everything. Now that just shows how hard he works to make great roms!
All the roms are equal, we all use the same hacks/mods, some have a different mix of each, just depends on what the end user wants. Andromeda was wise to do theme'd and non-theme'd versions, I personally prefer to leave customizations up to the user.
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All the roms are equal, we all use the same hacks/mods, some have a different mix of each, just depends on what the end user wants. Andromeda was wise to do theme'd and non-theme'd versions, I personally prefer to leave customizations up to the user.
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That makes no sense. Just trying to understand, all paintings are equal cause all painters use the same canvas, oil, and brushes? So a 3 yr old in day care makes equal work as a Pollock in a museum. Same technique, paint and canvas. Is that what you're saying?
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That makes no sense. Just trying to understand, all paintings are equal cause all painters use the same canvas, oil, and brushes? So a 3 yr old in day care makes equal work as a Pollock in a museum. Same technique, paint and canvas. Is that what you're saying?
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What I think he is trying to say is that almost every rom its nearly identical outside of theme. Most of the same tweaks and hacks are being used by all.
I think a better analogy is its like building a car with all the same parts but yours has fuzzy dice
Not sure in the end it its that simple but I believe that was his point
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So I have had andromeda 2.0 orange themed for about a week and I can honestly say this is the best rom I have ever used on my captivate. it runs ultra smooth and has great gps and wifi locking time
Andromeda 2.0 rom
Andromedarom.weebly.com
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I agree. I get in my truck, pop my captivate in my GPS holder, plug in my car charger, start my truck, open car home replacement w/GPS speedometer, put the truck in gear and by the time I back out of my parking spot, I have a GPS lock. Literally 6 seconds or so for GPS lock.
Andromeda is fan-damn-tastic.
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Glad you like it. Probably would be better if posted in the Andromeda thread.
Welcome to XDA!!
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Noobs can't post in the Dev section until they get more than 10 posts lol. They started enforcing that rule last week.
boborone said:
That makes no sense. Just trying to understand, all paintings are equal cause all painters use the same canvas, oil, and brushes? So a 3 yr old in day care makes equal work as a Pollock in a museum. Same technique, paint and canvas. Is that what you're saying?
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All ROM's pretty much are the same, to back up DG and to add to mcord's elaboration, the themes are the eye candy that attracts people to them. If one of the other ROM's doesn't have a certain tweak/hack/mod, you can simply add it and make it into "the most amazing ROM ever".
If you were given 2 SUV's: the Chevy Trailblazer and the Izuzu Ascender, would you be able to tell the difference in driveabilty? Not really. The 2 SUV's are the exact same, just with different names.
If you were given 2 captivates loaded with 2 completely different ROM's. but they were themed the same and had the same tweaks and whatnot, would you be able to tell the difference? Some people are still running stock 2.1 with SRE and are reporting that their phones are the snappiest things ever.
I know everyone has their own opinion on which one feels fast, stable and more responsive, which is cool, cuz you're entitled to it. But honestly, it's all in your head lol. It was all in my head too I was running perception and swapped to setiron's kernel and was like "wow, this kernel is awesome and the the lagfix makes this thing fly".... I booted into recovery to flash a theme and noticed that the lagfix wasn't even applied yet!! Therefore, the speed increase I was "noticing", was in fact all in my head
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What I think he is trying to say is that almost every rom its nearly identical outside of theme. Most of the same tweaks and hacks are being used by all.
I think a better analogy is its like building a car with all the same parts but yours has fuzzy dice
Not sure in the end it its that simple but I believe that was his point
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Except for some reason one car starts faster than another, and gets better gas mileage, and handles way better.
That is to say, GPS lock is WAY faster on Andromeda, the battery life is vastly superior to other ROMs (I test every ROM thoroughly before deciding if I want to keep it or not, and after a proper battery calibration the first test I run is battery life.), and there is absolutely no lag at all.
So, yes.. you can say it's like every car being built with the same parts, but the Andromeda Car must have properly inflated tires, and not running A/C or anything else that drags down gas mileage. lol
This is not really a debate or argument. Andromeda is a great rom and performs well, I do not think anyone is saying other wise. Considering dg helped with the kernel I don't think he was either
Way too much thought process going into this guys, phone vs. car. No way you can compare the two.
All the devs knows what each other is doing to each rom, all they have to do is download it and dissect it. Or ask.
I have personally have tried all of them, and yes, their all about the same.
Only thing that will have effect on it is kernel or modem.
Comparing a car which is hardware to a rom that is software. Now my head hurts.
cognition
do u like it better than cognition and is it overclocked?
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Way too much thought process going into this guys, phone vs. car. No way you can compare the two.
All the devs knows what each other is doing to each rom, all they have to do is download it and dissect it. Or ask.
I have personally have tried all of them, and yes, their all about the same.
Only thing that will have effect on it is kernel or modem.
Comparing a car which is hardware to a rom that is software. Now my head hurts.
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Sorry I will shut up
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Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
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Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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shoman94 said:
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.
You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.
You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.
rodimus_prime said:
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html
I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.
Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...
im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.
Hi Everyone,
I am seeking recommendations on custom ROMs for the captivate. I kknow it wouldn't be fair to compare specially after the hard work so many developers are putting in for *free*. This is for a phone I have been playing around with. It currently is on Continuum 5.1 which I love, but it is getting laggy. I need to give it to my kid sister and reliability and speed are of concern to her.
If Continuum is a recommendation, I'd stay put
I was wondering which is the best ROM according to your experience.
Parameters:
- Speed
- Usability
- Gingerbread ideally (or froyo if that's faster)
- Themes (because its gonna be for a girl who will want new clothes for the phone everyday!)
- Keyboard availability should be good. She is used to a qwerty phone which she feels easy, and touch screens are new to her
(edit: and anyway I could remove the globe button on swype which was irritating and cuts short the keyboard width http://twitpic.com/4suqes)
Moderators, you can categorise anywhere if you please, or shut it down if there is a discussion already on on a similar subject of comparison/reviews because I couldn't find it.
thanks!
iMohak said:
Hi Everyone,
I am seeking recommendations on custom ROMs for the captivate. I kknow it wouldn't be fair to compare specially after the hard work so many developers are putting in for *free*. This is for a phone I have been playing around with. It currently is on Continuum 5.1 which I love, but it is getting laggy. I need to give it to my kid sister and reliability and speed are of concern to her.
If Continuum is a recommendation, I'd stay put
I was wondering which is the best ROM according to your experience.
Parameters:
- Speed
- Usability
- Gingerbread ideally (or froyo if that's faster)
- Themes (because its gonna be for a girl who will want new clothes for the phone everyday!)
- Keyboard availability should be good. She is used to a qwerty phone which she feels easy, and touch screens are new to her
(edit: and anyway I could remove the globe button on swype which was irritating and cuts short the keyboard width http://twitpic.com/4suqes)
Moderators, you can categorise anywhere if you please, or shut it down if there is a discussion already on on a similar subject of comparison/reviews because I couldn't find it.
thanks!
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If you really want a GB based rom then I would say . But if you don't care for GB and are fine with Froyo then Cognition 4.3.2 is amazing. Great battery life (about 30hrs with moderate usage, wifi on all the time and apps like current weather, weather forecast, pulse news, facebook, gmail, calender, score mobile, tweetdeck, espn and cnn constantly using the wifi) and its not laggy. I know the quadrant scores don't mean much but my cappy gave me a score of over 1600.
Cheers.
These threads are always subjective. You have to try different rom, kernel and modem packages to see what works best for her phone. Not all Captivates are equal.
cappysw10 said:
These threads are always subjective. You have to try different rom, kernel and modem packages to see what works best for her phone. Not all Captivates are equal.
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This. You have to read about them and decide what you like best. Some people may really like one particular rom and then you get to it and are like this sucks, I hate it. Go try some out and don't forget to read up on bootloaders if you decide to go the GB way.
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So far I am pleased with GR 12. Granted, I don't probably use my phone for a lot of intense applications etc. like others, but I haven't had any issues with the ROM. Of course, I don't burden my phone with a lot of apps and I think by doing so I get good results with the ROM. My battery life has been great ( I'm sitting at 73% right now after 29 hours, 23 minutes). Like I said, that's a few calls, checking email and occasional music listening.
Like others have said, it is subjective. I always leave everything pretty much as MikeyMike developed it and I love it.
5.. 4.. 3...
There is no best rom. Just best for you. Please search before you open a new thread, as you will see they all get closed due to becoming a flame fest. With that said. Thread closed
Folks... double-edged sword here. The CEO of my company wants a phone with a big screen, and came to me for input. He's not interested in an iPhone (not sure why, but I didn't press the matter), and is open to Android. I've been using a Captivate for 9 months and have played around with tons of ROMs for that device, so I know the pitfalls with custom ROMs.
My question for you all is this: if you had to recommend a ROM for the Infuse, what would it be (including stock ATT&T)? He's pretty much the typical CEO, with the added bonus of being fairly approachable and willing to try new things. But I CANNOT piss him off. He's the CEO, after all.
Thanks!
I'd look for something by GTG, Entropy or LinuxBozo in the development section. They all look good to me. Go with something like stock but with additional features. Noone needs CM7 on their first android.
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I'd look for something by GTG, Entropy or LinuxBozo in the development section. They all look good to me. Go with something like stock but with additional features. Noone needs CM7 on their first android.
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Thanks for the quick response. Have you any personal experience with any of them?
I'd suggest one of the initial Infused ROMs like 1.5.3. I know that's only going to be Froyo, but I think that would be more usable and stable for his uses than trying to go with one of the current Gingerbread builds. I doubt he's going to want to keep up with updates unless he's surprisingly tech savvy.
I'd go with infused 1.5.0 and personally still use 1.5.0 (no loopy, no slightly weird haptic feedback stuff that my phone got in 1.5.3)
+1 on infused 1.5.0. 1.5.3 does have a weird thing going on with haptic feedback. but loopy smoothness makes a difference, so maybe that could be added.
I also think the stable release of infused v2 is good. but if he hopes to use the hdmi mhl adapter then its a no-go. v2 is rogers based and they didn't get hdmi capabilities in canada for some odd reason. also the att rom and modem get better speeds, even after the "fix" I don't get quite the transfer rates that the att firmware offered but gingerbread seems to have much improved browsing performance so its not a big deal to me. other than that I can't think of any issues with it.
I'd say Infused 1.x. If he REALLY wants Gingerbread, Infused 2.x, but that's still a work in progress. Infused 2.x is my "daily driver" but it has some known issues. (I just don't care about said issues as they don't affect me - I'm still trying to help fix them if I can. Data speeds I can't work on as I live in the boonies, we've only had 3G for two years!)
There are no ROMs from Bozo and I - we're kernel hackers. (Exception: LB is working on a CM7 port but it is NOWHERE near ready).
Actually, any of the Froyo ROMs are very solid. There's only one Gingerbread ROM out now.
The nice thing about the Infuse is that our devs coordinate with each other. As a result, in terms of ROMs and Kernels, currently it's "quality not quantity". We don't have any "hey look I can deodex too!" ROMs. (at least not yet)
I'm loving Infused v2 and use the Bluetooth pairing daily in my car. Its been as stable, if not moreso, than stock. The browser also doesn't checkerboard like stock did - which is a big win if you're looking forward to browsing the web on this huge screen.
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I'd say Infused 1.x. If he REALLY wants Gingerbread, Infused 2.x, but that's still a work in progress. Infused 2.x is my "daily driver" but it has some known issues. (I just don't care about said issues as they don't affect me - I'm still trying to help fix them if I can. Data speeds I can't work on as I live in the boonies, we've only had 3G for two years!)
There are no ROMs from Bozo and I - we're kernel hackers. (Exception: LB is working on a CM7 port but it is NOWHERE near ready).
Actually, any of the Froyo ROMs are very solid. There's only one Gingerbread ROM out now.
The nice thing about the Infuse is that our devs coordinate with each other. As a result, in terms of ROMs and Kernels, currently it's "quality not quantity". We don't have any "hey look I can deodex too!" ROMs. (at least not yet)
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well there is that one guy working on CM7 (but you have to compile it yourself)
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well there is that one guy working on CM7 (but you have to compile it yourself)
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You quoted me, but you clearly didn't read what you quoted...
I thought discussion of "best" rom was forbidden on xda?
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You quoted me, but you clearly didn't read what you quoted...
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probably only skimmed it and saw "one" and "gingerbread rom" and mixed things the wrong way.
whoops.
Thanks for your input folks!
I really appreciate the input from everyone. Methinks I'll try Infused based on what you all have said. Here goes nuttin....
I know my post count is low... but I am a senior level dude w/ 10 years at my current company and am speaking from personal experience here (albeit from the iOS side). Unless your CEO is capable of flashing ROMs and troubleshooting issues on his own, my advice is to leave it bone stock. Show him some cool apps on the Market, point him to XDA, answer questions that he may have, hell maybe even suggest checking out the dev section and looking into aftermarket ROMs. But once you modify his phone, it now becomes your responsibility and CEOs work 24x7x365...
I guess I'm just really surprised that I'm the only one here who thinks this might be a bad idea, and maybe I'm just an old fart but I just wanted to provide some experience from the flip side of the coin. I assume you've already flashed - so good luck man!
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Data speeds I can't work on as I live in the boonies, we've only had 3G for two years!)
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We just got 3g about 8 months ago...
Also, no development occurs in a one Rom per niche town. That's not a good thing that there are no can deodex too Roms.
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I know my post count is low... but I am a senior level dude w/ 10 years at my current company and am speaking from personal experience here (albeit from the iOS side). Unless your CEO is capable of flashing ROMs and troubleshooting issues on his own, my advice is to leave it bone stock. Show him some cool apps on the Market, point him to XDA, answer questions that he may have, hell maybe even suggest checking out the dev section and looking into aftermarket ROMs. But once you modify his phone, it now becomes your responsibility and CEOs work 24x7x365...
I guess I'm just really surprised that I'm the only one here who thinks this might be a bad idea, and maybe I'm just an old fart but I just wanted to provide some experience from the flip side of the coin. I assume you've already flashed - so good luck man!
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agree.
If you or your boss can handle any issue that may arise,say,boot loops
If you both are noobs then stick with stock.
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I know my post count is low... but I am a senior level dude w/ 10 years at my current company and am speaking from personal experience here (albeit from the iOS side). Unless your CEO is capable of flashing ROMs and troubleshooting issues on his own, my advice is to leave it bone stock. Show him some cool apps on the Market, point him to XDA, answer questions that he may have, hell maybe even suggest checking out the dev section and looking into aftermarket ROMs. But once you modify his phone, it now becomes your responsibility and CEOs work 24x7x365...
I guess I'm just really surprised that I'm the only one here who thinks this might be a bad idea, and maybe I'm just an old fart but I just wanted to provide some experience from the flip side of the coin. I assume you've already flashed - so good luck man!
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I could not agree more. I am a Senior IT Support Engineer and my CEO is a gadget guy who has to have to the newest toys. I would NEVER load a custom ROM on one of his devices EVER as this would put me in a very bad position especially if his device suddenly started acting flakey. Keep it stock and show him some apps and he will be perfectly happy using the phone and if you are like me get him to buy you an Infuse and you can play around with yours and when you find a good stable platform then upgrade his device to that. I always get an identical device to the CEO because he wants me to be able to assist him with issues. I know everyone isn't as lucky as me but it can sometimes be a serious PIA as he will call me constantly with stupid questions.
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I could not agree more. I am a Senior IT Support Engineer and my CEO is a gadget guy who has to have to the newest toys. I would NEVER load a custom ROM on one of his devices EVER as this would put me in a very bad position especially if his device suddenly started acting flakey. Keep it stock and show him some apps and he will be perfectly happy using the phone and if you are like me get him to buy you an Infuse and you can play around with yours and when you find a good stable platform then upgrade his device to that. I always get an identical device to the CEO because he wants me to be able to assist him with issues. I know everyone isn't as lucky as me but it can sometimes be a serious PIA as he will call me constantly with stupid questions.
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+1 to Stock.
Unless he and you want to be tinkering all the time with each other.
Go for refuse 1.7. Good first ROM
Agreed on staying stock
Believe it or not, I was seriously considering staying stock anyway (for all the stated reasons), but wanted to get an idea of what some of the 'better' (a highly subjective term, I know) ROMs were based on people's opinions, as a means of comparison. Fortunately for me, he got called out of town so I now have a week to live with the device for awhile and learn it's idiosyncrasies and whatnot.
So, unless stock proves to suck, (which I doubt), I'll keep it that way.
Thanks all for your input.
Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
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Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
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The biggest advantage of rooting my phone is to get rid of all that bloatware crap, block ads and get better battery life. I just got a replacement and had to be on stock for a day before I got a chance to root again. Battery life was horrible with stock. In addition, I personally dont overclock since the phone is running smooth with these roms.
Why root? For me the answer was easy "because I can". I like the fact that I can mod my phone and remove things from it I don't like. Stock is fine and if that is what floats your boat that's cool. It's the same reason you jailbroke you iphone, so it's there when you need it.
Easy response. Free wifi tethering.
For me the biggest reason was for wifi tethering. Blows my mind I would have to pay an additional $30 for tethering ... and that is only for 2GB. It's rare that I use it, but it's nice to have the option.
Other reasons were to either freeze or uninstall apps you can't normally uninstall. I've tried a few roms, but really like sense. So currently running BAMF 1.0.7
If you felt no need to root, then you tried the wrong ROMs or missed doing the useful things that come with it.
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Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
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I've never heard anyone describe their root experience in such emotionally loaded terms. It's a phone, not a girlfriend. I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have a lot of feelings tied up in my phone and my emotions haven't been placated by rooting it. It's a useful tool that let's me do what I want. I like having a device where I don't run into some stupid wall when I want to do something to it. It's that simple.
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I've never heard anyone describe their root experience in such emotionally loaded terms. It's a phone, not a girlfriend. I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have a lot of feelings tied up in my phone and my emotions haven't been placated by rooting it. It's a useful tool that let's me do what I want. I like having a device where I don't run into some stupid wall when I want to do something to it. It's that simple.
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Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box)
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How could you have had your TB for "about a year"? It came out barely 7 months ago.
That hyperbole aside, the reason I rooted my TB (which I did when I got mine back in March) was so that I could take control of my device. Since smartphones are really little computers I want full control of it. I wouldn't stand for not having administrator privileges on any of my other computers, why would I stand for it on my phone? That wouldn't fly if I bought a Dell laptop that was locked down because Dell thought that it would provide a more consistent user experience and it won't fly for me from HTC or Verizon.
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I've never heard anyone describe their root experience in such emotionally loaded terms. It's a phone, not a girlfriend. I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have a lot of feelings tied up in my phone and my emotions haven't been placated by rooting it. It's a useful tool that let's me do what I want. I like having a device where I don't run into some stupid wall when I want to do something to it. It's that simple.
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Well I didn't mean for it to be emotional, I just simply wanted to know the things I can now get out of my phone. Any ROM recommendatons?
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Well I didn't mean for it to be emotional, I just simply wanted to know the things I can now get out of my phone. Any ROM recommendatons?
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Whether it's immediately obvious or not, many of these ROMs are extensively modified. BAMF, Gingeritis, and Synergy, just to name a few that are significantly divergent from stock. Some are little more than stock dressed up pretty. Basically, it boils down to what you want or like. I simply don't recommend ROMs because most of the people that do are idiots follow what they think is a cool trend.
Some people have no real need to root a device. You might be one of them. I'm not. I like playing with different ROMs, kernels, apps that require root, and scripts. It also blocks out XDA's uber-annoying video ads. Everyone has their own reasons and some do it just to be cool, it seems.
People here has obviously touch on most of the benefits of rooting. From debloating to free wifi tether to better battery life. This is all true and also why I rooted, but one of the coolest things for me is being able to flash a rom that allows you to be on a version of android or a UI maybe not available on your device yet. Take for example the TB, it is not suppose to ever get sense 3.0 and months before gingerbread was even release i was on gingerbread and running sense 3.0. Heck you can run sense 3.5 now if you want. So to me, being able to be "ahead of the curve" and run software on your phone that is not even out yet for your device is pretty bad a$$.
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Ok, so I've had this phone for about a year now (I rooted it right out the box) and I've been installing new roms and kernals for about a year too. The problem is, I still don't even see a real benefit of rooting. I was a former iOS user and I jailbroke it to get free apps and themes and stuff, which I thought was pretty cool. However, I simply like android better, so I got my HTC Thunderbolt. But I feel that after rooting I have accomplished nothing. Sure I'm able to use SetCPU, but the overclock doesn't even make a huge difference, and it "wears off" within a few minutes. Also, different ROMs all feel the same to me, the only thing that may be different is the look. Gingerbread imo is just a different lockscreen, and I still haven't installed a single theme correctly. Can someone plz argue these points and tell me how to take full advantage of this rooted thunderbolt?
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Whether it's immediately obvious or not, many of these ROMs are extensively modified. BAMF, Gingeritis, and Synergy, just to name a few that are significantly divergent from stock. Some are little more than stock dressed up pretty. Basically, it boils down to what you want or like. I simply don't recommend ROMs because most of the people that do are idiots follow what they think is a cool trend.
Some people have no real need to root a device. You might be one of them. I'm not. I like playing with different ROMs, kernels, apps that require root, and scripts. It also blocks out XDA's uber-annoying video ads. Everyone has their own reasons and some do it just to be cool, it seems.
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Quoted both of you because I wanted to reply to both of you. First loonatik. Totally agree. Those three are the most popular and I agree with I don't recommend ROMS because im simply not that picky about the major three that for the most part are about as supermodded as you can get. And many of the mods work on all three sense ROMs. So use what ya like.
As for the OP. If you are having trouble installing themes on whichever ROM you're using post on the thread that those roms come on and there will be several people who can help you get it to work right. (yea there are some douche bags on here but for the msot part people will help). The best reasons I have for rooting and keeping my phone rooted are free wifi tethering mainly and also because like another poster said. If you bought a computer and they told you you had to keep all the crapware they send with it and couldnt uninstall it and that you could only use it a certain way then you would surely get a different computer or you would figure out a way to get around it. I like my car but i don't like my stock stereo that came with it. So i changed it. Should that void the warranty on my car? no but HTC and Verizon think it should. Im not ok with that. If you aren't happy with your rooted phone then you can unroot it and use it as stock for a little while just to see the difference. If it makes no difference to you then keep it unrooted but I think you'll probably see that there is a performance difference and a difference in battery life at least.
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Easy response. Free wifi tethering.
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Just curious, what app do you guys use?
Synergyrom is by far the best ROM I've put on my tbolt imo, ...tried em all for bout a week each, but I've stuck w synergy in the end....silky smooth...great kernel...great debt support...and best of all..great batt life....with the extended battery, I can go 50+ hours on one charge with moderate use....heavy use I can still get 30-35 hours no sweat... ..all phones are different though...just try em all and c what your phone prefers...
I must be stupid, because I am going to recommend BAMF soab, it's a 3.5 ROM that is relatively fast, and I love all the new features. To each their own though.
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Synergyrom is by far the best ROM I've put on my tbolt imo, ...tried em all for bout a week each, but I've stuck w synergy in the end....silky smooth...great kernel...great debt support...and best of all..great batt life....with the extended battery, I can go 50+ hours on one charge with moderate use....heavy use I can still get 30-35 hours no sweat... ..all phones are different though...just try em all and c what your phone prefers...
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I'm gonna take you to task on that. First off, the kernel in that ROM makes the entire ROM warez. Ziggy's work is illegal as hell and a blight to the Android/Linux community. Ziggy's kernels have also proven the worst performers as compared to Imoseyon's and Dreamkernel after repeated tests on the same ROMs. Not to mention his kernels have some serious lag issues no other kernel does. Frankly, I think the stock HTC 2.11.605.3 kernel is faster and smoother.
I am going to have to agree with every single person here. Also, I will be the first to admit it. I do feel cool when I get to reROM my phone and show it off to my friends with stock Android phones. Especially when they cry about not having some of the options available to those of us who ROM. Don't get me wrong I know it does not make me cool to ROM. I just feel cool. But in all actuality, the DEV's are the true cool ones. But, sadly some of my friends don't want to "risk bricking or losing there warranties". But, to each there own. I even have a friend with an iPhone. He loves it, it does exactly what he needs it to do un jailbroken.
The one thing that has been elusive to me though, is a good battery life. I am a fan of BAMF. And am running SoaB at the moment. As a matter of fact currently I can not get Callrecorder to work properly on this ROM. Call recording has been my savings grace so many times. Especially when I had to dispute a bill with VZW them selves. And frankly getting the person on the phone to refund what is owed back to me.is a pain in the rear some times. But, it gets done and recorded. Then, when my next bill rolls around and it has not been properly taken care of, I would call back again and have them read the notes back to me from my previous dispute. And if they say that there are no notes. I let them know that I am recording them and that I have the recording to my last dispute. That changes how the whole ball game is played. So for me, call recording is a must. But everything else every one else stated holds just as true for me also. Any way, good luck in the search for that holy grail of a ROM. I have to go. My phone is dying again for the second time today. Time to link up to the grid again.
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CM7. Solid as a fort and fast as hell.
Even thought I got my Stratosphere, it will be an eon (or two, if ever) that I'll see any development for it, so I kept my Thunderbolt around to fill that void.
Actully 4G phones have unlimited hotspot on Verizon, it's the 30$ plan. There isn't a cap at all, so not sure where you get the 2 gig cap on tethering.
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Im coming from the vibrant 3g and came lurking thru these dev forums to see what my phones big brother has to offer....
Damn how depressing lol.
Well anyways, i couldnt figure out which roms were what and what they had to offer etc sooo
Im just curious what diff roms you guys have
Gb, froyo, maybe ics?
Focus is on stability
So what roms are your most stable and what are ttheir biggest downsides..
Approx how is your performance and maybe benchmark scores?
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I'm only familiar with 3 rom's and am happy with all 3.
Like you I came here from the vibrant about a year ago due to I broke mine.....yea there's not much here but there is a little
The 3 rom's I've used are whitehawxs Valhalla final(if you recall whitehawxs came from the vibrant) but I made a lot of changes to his due to several things like the pink unicorn.
Valhalla black by Raver,nice rom I'm using it now.
And last but not least ravers miui rom.....I really love miui but on this phone they haven't yet been able to get ringtones and vibration working due to lack of files needed being released
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We have a CM7 WIP.
GPS and BT don't work yet, but it is constantly being worked on by our team acid. (Mainly Bhundven and M4xm4n).
Also, the battery life isn't all the way up, but I am using it.
It's is lightning fast, and not fast like people say about valhalla. This is AOSP fast!
@Shortbus-Driver, it's Whitehawkx(spelling) LOL
LOL yea its all good....just didn't feel like going back and correcting everything its bad enough I had to go back and correct Tom to rom like 4-5 times LOL I had just flashed vb and you know how that is with the keyboard settings
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Im coming from the vibrant 3g
Damn how depressing lol.
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Yes, me too... and yes... sad that people are such jerks over here.
Gb, froyo, maybe ics?
Focus is on stability
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I'm using Valhalla Black by Raverx3x http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
With AntonX's kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610528
Very good stability and battery life. Prior to this, the best kernel was Bryan's 0.2d, which AntonX started from, so it is very clean.
Approx how is your performance and maybe benchmark scores?
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Benchmarks are for braggarts. I'll just say that this combination does great BlueTooth, GPS and plays all the games I use (Plants vs. Zombies, Angry Birds *, Where's My Water) perfectly.
We're VERY close to having a working CM7, but until BT and GPS work, I can't go there... so no comments.
Welcome to the forums...
IDisposable said:
Yes, me too... and yes... sad that people are such jerks over here.
I'm using Valhalla Black by Raverx3x http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
With AntonX's kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610528
Very good stability and battery life. Prior to this, the best kernel was Bryan's 0.2d, which AntonX started from, so it is very clean.
Benchmarks are for braggarts. I'll just say that this combination does great BlueTooth, GPS and plays all the games I use (Plants vs. Zombies, Angry Birds *, Where's My Water) perfectly.
We're VERY close to having a working CM7, but until BT and GPS work, I can't go there... so no comments.
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@ younix258: Welcome to the forums. It's good to see you doing your homework. This is my first android phone. Coming from a worn out original Palm Pre, there's just no going back for me.
@ IDisposable: Although I'm new to these forums, I have noticed a bit of bickering back and forth between a few select members. Unfortunately, it appears that we've lost the developers that are the very ones that make / made this entire modding of the Samsung Galaxy S 4G phone possible in the first place. In my opinion, those developers deserve the utmost respect and support from all of us that are benefiting from their hard work. 'Nuff said.
That's exactly the setup I'm running, too. I just finished getting my phone where I want it after loading everything up yesterday. It's running smooth & I'm happy with the results, so far.
The only thing I use benchmarks for is to compare changes I've made to my phone. If i install a tweak or make a change here or there, I do like to see the numbers go up. That way, I can avoid piling a bunch of stuff on my phone that I either don't need, or actually affects my phone in unintended negative ways that I might not possibly understand.
I'm also patiently watching & waiting for development on CM7. It's a good thing that I read the notes on that thread, so I knew beforehand that it's not quite "ready for primetime". Otherwise, I would've been disappointed.
Overall, I feel that the Samsung Galaxy S 4g is a very nice phone. Although it doesn't have the killer specs of the Galaxy SII, it still has a lot of potential and when combined with all of the custom ROMs and tweaks that are available on these XDA forums-- this phone is very far from "dead", in my opinion.
Keep up the good work boys-- keep up the good work!!!
Good answers guy, thanks for being thorough.. yeah what bothered me about this forum is the lack of precise rom info in the rom threads and titles are damn near useless.
But you guys cleared it up.
As a side note, the 959v will be going to my little brother and I'm keeping my 959 lol so while ill be around, ill stick mostly to my OG vibe.
Oh and when cm7 works, that **** will turn heads lol.. just hope battery gets straightened out
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