So I came across this website and I was considering using it to mess with friends and maybe a few d-bags, but I was wondering if it could be considered harassment legally? Or could it even be traced to my IP? In the rules it mentions no threats and I wasn't planning on it, but it would be fun to annoy some people.
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I would advise against it for numerous reasons. Most isp's backlog dhcp records for 180 days. While it would be fun to mess with your friends their retaliation would be swift! Best wishes.
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I say go for it, but choose your victims wisely and keep it light-hearted.
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So I came across this website and I was considering using it to mess with friends and maybe a few d-bags, but I was wondering if it could be considered harassment legally? Or could it even be traced to my IP? In the rules it mentions no threats and I wasn't planning on it, but it would be fun to annoy some people.
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It is legal, however, if you take it too far it could be construed as harassment. My advice, keep it light hearted and chose your victims wisely. I used a bomb app on my phone with a couple friends before, its funny but it could get out of hand.
EDIT: I thought of something after I posted, I wonder if you could be held financially responsible if the person receiving didn't have unlimited texts (if such a person even exists anymore). Be careful is my advice.
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EDIT: I thought of something after I posted, I wonder if you could be held financially responsible if the person receiving didn't have unlimited texts (if such a person even exists anymore). Be careful is my advice.
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Why would the recipient need to have unlimited texts?
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The recipient is going to get bombarded with texts so I would hope they have unlimited messages.
I would be careful doing something like this.
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Haha, I didn't even think of that. Can you imagine if you sent like 300 texts to someone with pay-per-use? That would be at least $30-$60 every time you did that. That's a really good point.
Woah. I would hate this website if someone used it on me.
Ok so what if I am not on a contract and I have no more credit and someone sent all these texts? What would happen?
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It is legal, however, if you take it too far it could be construed as harassment. My advice, keep it light hearted and chose your victims wisely. I used a bomb app on my phone with a couple friends before, its funny but it could get out of hand.
EDIT: I thought of something after I posted, I wonder if you could be held financially responsible if the person receiving didn't have unlimited texts (if such a person even exists anymore). Be careful is my advice.
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AndroidSupreme said:
Ok so what if I am not on a contract and I have no more credit and someone sent all these texts? What would happen
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According to their site it's USA and Canada only, I guess that's both to and from, in that case I don't see any way that the recipient could be charged (unless their carrier charges them for receiving texts whilst roaming or something).
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Ok so what if I am not on a contract and I have no more credit and someone sent all these texts? What would happen?
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Well, it would probably eat up any remaining credit you had and then just stop sending, or maybe it just wouldn't send at all. But if you're not in contract with anyone then I don't see how they could pursue charges. You could just switch to another carrier.
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Well, it would probably eat up any remaining credit you had and then just stop sending, or maybe it just wouldn't send at all. But if you're not in contract with anyone then I don't see how they could pursue charges. You could just switch to another carrier.
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The only other thing the carrier could do is the next time you added funds to your account they could deduct the amount remaining that you owed before you ran out of funds (ie you have twenty dollars available, someone text bombs you costing thirty dollars, then later you add twenty five, the carrier deducts the ten you previously owed and you are left with only fifteen) Sorry if I ran on to long...
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A site I use frequently is:
www.smsglobal.com
You can send from any number you want to any number you want. You can even put a name in the from field for jokes...
Will someone *please* explain how you will be charged for *receiving* texts.
If you do not have a text plan (ie 200 a month, unlimited..) You are charged for texts. T-mobile, for one, does charge 0.20 for each incoming AND outgoing text. Especially on pre paid plans...
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If you do not have a text plan (ie 200 a month, unlimited..) You are charged for texts. T-mobile, for one, does charge 0.20 for each incoming AND outgoing text. Especially on pre paid plans...
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Is that from international numbers only?
Nope. That also includes domestic texts. If you do not have a plan that covers texting either included like sprint or an add on like I have with T-Mobile, you can be charged for every message sent and/or received. Prices vary by plan, and/or carrier.
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i just use an app called SMS barrage on my droid. messed up once, set it to send 1000 messages to my friend saying hello... didnt realize her husband had her phone, and they were only allotted 200 texts a month... I ended up sending them the money for the texts. seemed only fair.
Nice site here. Too bad only for US/Canada.
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Hey I've been getting 2-3 calls a day for about 2months now from the same ppl and my mom is to first they'll call my phone asking for my mom then ill hang up and and they'll call her 2 seconds later I didnt know who these ppl are but I finally decided to Google one of the numbers because I tried to black list them but there getting around it by using several different numbers this is what came up on the search http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-202-607-2748 as it turns out there a bogus collection agency and alot of ppl are upset with them and the earliest complaint was from 2007 I'm also on the national do not call registry but I think they get around it by lableing themselves as a collection agency is there legal action that could be used against them I'm in Atlanta ga
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Hey I've been getting 2-3 calls a day for about 2months now from the same ppl and my mom is to first they'll call my phone asking for my mom then ill hang up and and they'll call her 2 seconds later I didnt know who these ppl are but I finally decided to Google one of the numbers because I tried to black list them but there getting around it by using several different numbers this is what came up on the search http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-202-607-2748 as it turns out there a bogus collection agency and alot of ppl are upset with them and the earliest complaint was from 2007 I'm also on the national do not call registry but I think they get around it by lableing themselves as a collection agency is there legal action that could be used against them I'm in Atlanta ga
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https://www.donotcall.gov/
You can file a complaint there.
Same here! Every single day. My solution is to blacklist it on my device using HTCs own blacklist app. Works fine.
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Edit.. well so u decided to give them a call to see what they had to say for themselves the Guy picked up and said how may I help u so I said very loudly had rude " why am I getting 3-4 calls a day from y'all asking for another person" so then he said alright let me look up your number on the computer so he put me on hold for about 20min so I gave up not wanting to waste anymore of my landline minutes. So then I called sprint (my carrier) and explained my situation and they said they could help me and I gave them the five different numbers they were trying to call from and they can completely block those numbers and the change will take place within 22-72 hrs so hopefully that'll work and sprint was very nice to me during this
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So hopefully y'all can do the same thing just call your carrier and give them the numbers and they should be able to block them also the black list apps don't work very well because the calls still come through but they hang up
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Edit again look up bcr collection agency and look at the number of complaints against them its pretty bad lol
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1) If you're told by a person not to call their private home phone number, you cannot legally keep calling them. No debtor needs to send you a cease and desist letter for that.
5) My last piece of advice is to contact your states Attorney General's office the first time you get a call from BCR to record and file a complaint against them.
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it also qualifies as harassment if their told not to and do it afterwards , just report these goons
btw real collection agencies stop calling if u tell them not to (even tho the case of collection still goes continues) , theres no excuse to doing this
And the bad part is I don't even have a credit card and there calling me asking for someone else so hopefully sprint will be able to take care of it within the next 52 hrs and the Guy was pretty nice to me and understood what was happening to me so if that dosnt work I probably will take legal action apparently these ppl have been doing this for years because some of the complaints say they were calling about debts the person paid of five or six years ago
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I say we should start a prank call campaign against them let the phone wars begin lol... are we allowed to post public numbers on xda
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Our phones get spammed, our inboxes get spammed, our landlines and mailboxes get spammed!
It's about time the law was tightened up on this behaviour. I demand life sentances for anybody caught making or sending unsolicited calls!!
In the meantime can't we spam them back? A kinda DDOS against their phonelines
Just got two more calls from these ppl
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Go here and read this article
Verified here
It seems to work for me...
Confirmed, received a text today.
Yep does work just got my text back....said can take four weeks to process...but nice find
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AT&T thanks
What a company ah! Never had an iphone. Just got a text back from AT&T, thanks for saying Yes!
Rather have Froyo
Haha, I saw this on BGR earlier, it worked great for me, even on an old RAZR that doesn't even have a data plan.
http://floydnoel.info/?p=73
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What a company ah! Never had an iphone. Just got a text back from AT&T, thanks for saying Yes!
Rather have Froyo
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It is AT&T. I'll take what I can get.
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Worth a shot but getting a text bounce back doesn't really mean much. Either they will extend it to all customers who send the "yes" text or they will filter out anyone not on a iPhone plan before they batch apply the non-recurring credit to their billing system.
Go figure, a 1000 minute freebie and no update to Froyo.
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Worth a shot but getting a text bounce back doesn't really mean much. Either they will extend it to all customers who send the "yes" text or they will filter out anyone not on a iPhone plan before they batch apply the non-recurring credit to their billing system.
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Engadget is reporting it as all customers. Hopefully they are correct.
Awesome, thanks for the information, worked like a charm.
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We've also updated our unlimited text packages, if you have it or want it...update it or request for it and you get UNLIMITED MOBILE TO ANY MOBILE CALLING...not just at&t but all the mobile carriers included...if you didn't know. I'm just letting yall know cause its new and its gonna give us a little edge above the others.
...jeepers creepers mofo.s...
Ok, I guess the story with SimplyElectronics is very well known so please let's not go into the discussion of why I didn't choose a trusted seller. I used them because like anybody else I found the HTC One X 200eu cheaper than in my country.
Anyway, to get into the point. I bought this phone from them and there was a problem with GPS so they agreed to give me full refund when I send it back to them. I sent it back but they kept the phone and never gave me refund. I started Paypal dispute but they fooled them that they have never received the phone although they told me they received it in good order. After Paypal closed the case in their favour, they told me that they will give no money and no phone back. They told me to go to Paypal to give me my money back.
My question here goes to British people. Do you know of any collection service in the UK, legal or illegal, I don't care, even if it's the mafia, that's fine with me, who can do the collection for me, either by forcibly getting the phone back from them or the money? I have no other option unfortunately so this is my last resort and better than nothing. I know that I can have this kind of 'service' here so most probably there must be something similar in the UK.
No relatives in the UK? If you have then it might be an option to use them to take this company to the small claims court. I think the limit is £500 but I stand to be corrected.
Where are they based?
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No relatives but even if I had, I don't want to involve anyone with my problems. I prefer to give half the value to the mafia and get the other half. At least here, it is the only option to get justice. Police and the law fail, lawyers and courts will cost much more.
There are no "mafia's" here... lol
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At least that's not what we call em
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Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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Your logic of "I've been robbed so ill pay even bigger criminals to rob the criminal who robbed me." is dumb
What would you do if that company was RUN by the mafia?
Why pay thugs who make other peoples lives miserable to try and make yours slightly less miserable?
Hopefully if you do pay them they will take your money and laugh at you too, or refuse to give you back your phone unless you pay them double its value.
How about you just dont be stupid in the future and keep away from funding or endorsing criminal activity at all.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Did you not send it back by recorded delivery. Was it signed for?
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Yes it was signed for but unfortunately UK postal service don't update online tracking information so Paypal cannot verify the delivery and they denied to Paypal that they received it although they acknowledged delivery to me. The postal survey to prove that it was delivered takes 2 month by the British postal service and the authorities here depend on them for the info so they can't help them. After 2 months Paypal will not bother with me.
Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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Call the British post office. Recorded delivery for us is up to the value of 500 pound. I have had a friend have this problem on eBay. Paypal refused to pay. But the p.o refunded. Wasn't international delivery though
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Is that th same as royal mail? if yes, I've emailed them long time ago but they don't even reply. Even from the Postal service here they tried to call them directly and they didn't help. They said, please follow the protocols and file in your reports. Which take 2 months to complete. I know they could provide the info easily but they don't want to do it.
If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks.
They are in Surrey.
Here is the full address:
Simplyelectronics Ltd
C/O MIQ Logistics UK Ltd
Unit 1, Alpha Way,
Thorpe Industrial Park
Egham, Surrey
TW20 8RZ
Do you have any idea how I could get written confirmation from Royal Mail that they have received it? But this has to be done within a week. Paypal told me I can appeal within 10 days if I get this report. I have 7 more days for this.
I will try calling them tomorrow morning then but I doubt they can provide written evidence. Maybe they just tell me that it has been received but I don't think they will give it written now. I will try though. Thanks for the suggestion.
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That's not the kind of mafia I was referring to. You may call them collection agents who do this as a job and have a good reputation. That's why I ask ebfore. Here I know where to find them and they won't laough at me. They make their living out of this and they need to be certain that they are acting with the side of justice and that you are not making them do something negatice i.e steal something from an innocent man. I guess you understand what I mean.
Yes, if someone was so stupid to go to someone they have no recommendation of, most probably what you say would happen. I was asking if anyone knows an agency that can be trusted.
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Oh ok then sorry about that ignore my rant and good luck with getting some justice.
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If u can find out where simply electronics are based. I'll could probably get you the number for the local p.o
Yes I do mean royal mail. If it was recorderd (international signed for) u will be refunded. I work with a company that delivers via royal mail, inside and outside of england. Barcodes have to be scanned on picking up goods and signatures have to take place for the receiver. This is also recorded by p.o and they will have evidence that its signed for. Maybe calling direct may help
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Thanks again for droping the idea. I called them today and although it was very hard to get through (all options where going to dead end and automated messages only), I finally mamaged to randomly select an option and they guy there was so helpful, that he even emailed me the receipt showing the name and signature of the guy who received the package. Imagine that with the official procedure that would take 2 months.
I forwarded this to Paypal but I don't know if they will accept it now. As I said, I believe that they prefer to stay with their side so let's wait and see their excuse this time. Normally there should be an appeal option in the clain page but for me it's missing and they can't tell me the reason. I attached the pdf on dropbox and now I just hope they will see it and be willing to help.
I'll keep you updated and I'm buying beers if I succeed
Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Thats good news mate. Well its a start anyway. Sorry for delayed reply. Im not sure that paypal will be very helpful. But you now have proof that they recieved it so perhaps you could talk to someone from simply electronics and threaten court proccedings they may buck up and refund u. After all... you have proof that they recieved the phone. Wheras they do not have proof of a refund or exchange. Therefore they will never win in court and will know this. U may even be compensated. Look up there small print about refunds. Gather up as much info about there policies as you can and prepare yourself to call them quoting there returns policy. Im quite sure if you went to court u wouldnt have to be there and all costs would go to simply.e
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Good news. Paypal has accepted the information and reopened the case allowing me to appeal. They made a mistake though and showed that the seller appealed instead of buyer. Technically thinking, that worries me again. I notified them and now wait with my fingers crossed.
If they just want to help the scammer they may come back with a bunch of excuses but since I am now in this path, I want to be optimistic.
Im sure they will back you up on this one. I dont they they will risk themselves being in **** over a duspute you WILL eventually win. If they dont accept your appeal they may well be getting themselves into trouble. Seeing as you have provided them with written proof. Im sure they will ask s.e to provide there proof of refund or return. Which they cannot do. So i imagine they have the same time period as you "10 days" to provide thier evidence. So i guess its just another waiting game before you get your money or phone
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Well chuffed for ya mate. Im no expert but im sure by this time next week the appeal will be resolved in your favour. As more often than not paypal will not reopen a case unless there was a strong chance of the appealer winning.
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This is kinda related to a GS3 because I have that on my plan, anyway, if I have 2 unlimited data plans still on contract, can Verizon do anything, or will they, if I forgot to pay my bill by the due date and it was paid one day late? It was never disconnected or anything, but just wanted to see if a similar thing happened to anyone else and if they know what Verizon does? I'm just mainly referring to whether they can cancel your unlimited data if you paid a day late, or if it's ok since it wasn't very long after te due date.
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Lol. No. I got laid off during the summer and had a $600 bill. Just call them and work out a plan. I have one unlimited and three regular lines.
I regularly pay a month late
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Lol. No. I got laid off during the summer and had a $600 bill. Just call them and work out a plan. I have one unlimited and three regular lines.
I regularly pay a month late
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Lol you pay late every month? Doesn't that look bad on your credit?
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Lol you pay late every month? Doesn't that look bad on your credit?
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Nope. Not a speck
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Your good as long as you call them to let them know before the automated system gets a hold onto your account.
I was gonna say I pay the moment I get a text saying my account is about to be turned off and not any sooner.
If Verizon wants to let me use my upgrade and keep my unlimited data I will change my mind.
Until I leave them this is my practice.
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I was gonna say I pay the moment I get a text saying my account is about to be turned off and not any sooner.
If Verizon wants to let me use my upgrade and keep my unlimited data I will change my mind.
Until I leave them this is my practice.
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Boom! Me too. When I get the text, I know the bill is due. Then, if I don't have all the cash - I call them and use my mad phone skills. Lol.
Been working for 7 years or so... :good:
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Your good as long as you call them to let them know before the automated system gets a hold onto your account.
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But it wasn't even 24 hrs past the initial due date, like it was due on the 1st day and I paid right after noon on the 2nd day. There was no sign of any automated system taking a hold of my account, not tha I know the sign of that, and I already paid it. Do I still need to call them to let them know? What do I need to let them know if it's already paid? And if it's already paid, does their automated system still react to it because it was a few hours late?
For those who say they don't pay until they get the email saying they will be disconnected, how long after the due date of your bill do you get that email?
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But it wasn't even 24 hrs past the initial due date, like it was due on the 1st day and I paid right after noon on the 2nd day. There was no sign of any automated system taking a hold of my account, not tha I know the sign of that, and I already paid it. Do I still need to call them to let them know? What do I need to let them know if it's already paid? And if it's already paid, does their automated system still react to it because it was a few hours late?
For those who say they don't pay until they get the email saying they will be disconnected, how long after the due date of your bill do you get that email?
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Uh...usually not until I get the next bill and a few days after that.
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Don't worry about paying anything until you get the text. Lol. Then call them. Get the billing department. They can tell you how long you have until they cut you off. If you make an agreement with them the service stays on.
When im hard up for cash I set my priorities
house car insurance food at then late fees credit cards then vzw 5 dollars late fee then I would pay current late total at least half for vzw
Vzw does not report to the big three credit card report companies
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lol I cant believe there is a thread on this topic...i guess i should create a guide "how to not pay your bill and keep service on 4.1.2" .
Having worked for Big Red for a couple of years as a CSR/Tech Support (not currently), yes you can go through the automated system and let them know a payment has been "sent" even tho you may not have actually sent one. This is stop them from bothering you for a while. Unless you are extremely delinquent (Past 2+ months), they won't turn your phone off. There's usually a 25-35 re-activation fee per line but you keep your same plan.
I pay late myself just because it works better for my financial situation and changing bill cycle/due date is such a PITA. I highly recommend against it because 99% CS rep don't know how to calculate your pro-rations and end up effing it up, costing you both time and money.
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lol I cant believe there is a thread on this topic...i guess i should create a guide "how to not pay your bill and keep service on 4.1.2" .
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Like I said in another thread. The S3 General forum is turning into an OT-like forum. I don't know if it's age differences (I'm 34) but it seems to me that a lot of people need their hand held for a lot of frivolous things nowadays. Like "should I use a screen protector on my phone?", "I'm thinking about changing phones, need opinions, help!". C'mon. :silly:
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Like I said in another thread. The S3 General forum is turning into an OT-like forum. I don't know if it's age differences (I'm 34) but it seems to me that a lot of people need their hand held for a lot of frivolous things nowadays. Like "should I use a screen protector on my phone?", "I'm thinking about changing phones, need opinions, help!". C'mon. :silly:
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Sorry im really 41 to much work to change
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DAMN!!!!! just when I thought that paying a week late was bad....
For the last year I have been trying to pay my bill early but 300$ is a lot of money for 5 lines.
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DAMN!!!!! just when I thought that paying a week late was bad....
For the last year I have been trying to pay my bill early but 300$ is a lot of money for 5 lines.
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I felt this way. Then they screwed those of us with unlimited data.
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DAMN!!!!! just when I thought that paying a week late was bad....
For the last year I have been trying to pay my bill early but 300$ is a lot of money for 5 lines.
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I have 2 accounts 3 unlimited data 1 netbookfor $50.00 for 5gig 1 $30 for 2 gig 417.00 and no k-y ,"dry"
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I have 2 accounts 3 unlimited data 1 netbookfor $50.00 for 5gig 1 $30 for 2 gig 417.00 and no k-y dry
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That's a lot of money man but the reason my plan is 300$ is because I get Walgreen discount plus a reduction from an issue with Verizon... The store manager put me on a 2yr contract when I signed up with a used phone.. That asshole got me like 40$ of the plan for the first year he hehe.
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paying late shouldn't affect your credit, but i would read all the fine print about your unlimited plan. i am on unlimited plan and they do not slow down my speeds and I still maintain the account. I use over 50gb a month so i really need it. always be careful not to lose it.
Say It ain't so Verizon
What The ****
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order
http://gawker.com/nsa-secretly-collecting-phone-records-from-every-verizo-511561485
Wow...just. Wow
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Don't think for a second this is limited to VZW
SirVilhelm said:
Don't think for a second this is limited to VZW
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Exactly. AMERICA!
They've been doing this secretly for awhile.
clean Rom/xda powerd by zero-lemon & tweaked out Guided by the power of Zeus kernel!!
No big surprise here at all. I do wonder when do they have time to go through all of this information?
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The government sucks. Did y'all know the reason why walkie talkies are no more, is because they CANT trace those calls. I used to work at boost, all the drug dealers (not the normal street guy, but the guy from a mexican cartel) would buy cheap throw away phone since they killed walkie talkie. every week i would sell these guys a good 20 phones. Was mainly blackberries. I wonder why.
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you should assume that any electronic communications that you do, is not private.
Has anyone actually looked at their tos (terms of service) to see if this IS legitmately a breach of contract? I'm not surprised nor do I ultimately care that I'm being recorded...I figured as much but I have nothing to hide either. What DOES upset me is that we were not notified of such....Most states require that we must let the other party know if we are recording them...but then the government totally blows that off and just does it without our knowledge (even if we pretty much assumed they did)....and the whole lets sacrifice our privacy in order to offer better security for our country...uh no...I don't trust anyone but myself, wife and daughter for my security heh. Again....just curious as to if anyone has checked or knows of the actual legalities of this and if it IS indeed a breach of contract.
EI
Old news boys, take a look here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
Ho hummm...... the NSA has been intercepting all our calls and processing the voice and data for many years now, so Verizon forking over a few bills and records doesn't mean a lot .
Its all covered by the Intelligence Oversight Act which says that congress has oversight and must be informed , so they are all complicit in this violation of our constitutional rights, so who you gonna call, the UN?
They'll certainly be bored with my records. I haven't used 50 minutes in two years. Data, on the other hand, is a different story
jdk2 said:
They'll certainly be bored with my records. I haven't used 50 minutes in two years. Data, on the other hand, is a different story
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Pretty much I talk to only a few people. Texting is pretty much the same. Data with me is pretty much it also
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salas2324 said:
The government sucks. Did y'all know the reason why walkie talkies are no more, is because they CANT trace those calls. I used to work at boost, all the drug dealers (not the normal street guy, but the guy from a mexican cartel) would buy cheap throw away phone since they killed walkie talkie. every week i would sell these guys a good 20 phones. Was mainly blackberries. I wonder why.
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What am I reading? I can walk into any Radio Shack and buy a walkie talkie. I can also buy a HAM and many other two way radios.
SirVilhelm said:
What am I reading? I can walk into any Radio Shack and buy a walkie talkie. I can also buy a HAM and many other two way radios.
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i believe he was referring to the old nextel type things.
Ahhhh, ok
ShapesBlue said:
Pretty much I talk to only a few people. Texting is pretty much the same. Data with me is pretty much it also
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Same here.
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Excessiveidling said:
Has anyone actually looked at their tos (terms of service) to see if this IS legitmately a breach of contract? I'm not surprised nor do I ultimately care that I'm being recorded...I figured as much but I have nothing to hide either. What DOES upset me is that we were not notified of such....Most states require that we must let the other party know if we are recording them...but then the government totally blows that off and just does it without our knowledge (even if we pretty much assumed they did)....and the whole lets sacrifice our privacy in order to offer better security for our country...uh no...I don't trust anyone but myself, wife and daughter for my security heh. Again....just curious as to if anyone has checked or knows of the actual legalities of this and if it IS indeed a breach of contract.
EI
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Do you think people can get out of contract without have to pay early term fee because of this?
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rootofalldroid said:
Do you think people can get out of contract without have to pay early term fee because of this?
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Does seem to be a "materially adverse change" or at the very least, adverse.
The average person will forget about it anyway.