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Dear all,
I am in possession of a Kaiser and used some of the ROM's here. Now I am not a chef and prefer spending my time on other stuff. However I felled obliged giving a bit back.
Now I had an unused torrent-tracker on my website/server and was waiting to find something to put it to good use.
I am presenting a link to this Torrent-tracker for Firmwares/ROM's(if needed also some necessary CAB's).
http://tracker.homeip.net/tracker/
On the page there is a link/download for the client Utorrent v1.6.1 build 490. There is also a website(www.utorrent.com) with a way higher version, there is however some difference in opinion about versions above the v1.6.1 b490(discussions off topic).
This is however a test and will in the future depending more on the chefs willingness creating and uploading the .torrent and keeping secrets or sending me the ROM's and letting me do the work.
I will 1st put my effort in the Kaiser forum but if this idea is popular enough and requests will come in I will move a level up making the tracker available for the other forums with their ROM's.
I have already made a start with some of the popular ROM's and I will add more and more over time and naturally on request.
It will save a lot of time searching upload websites.
Reactions are welcome good or bad
For the Chefs:
Dear hardworking freaks if you like this idea and want to join this project take a short look at the following ways of sharing your hard work with all the other freaks.
1)- 1 have setup an FTP server and upload account for the Chefs. PM me for the link, user name and password.(all you have to do is upload your next ROM and I will do the rest)
2)- It is possible to upload the torrent to the tracker by your self. Again PM me for the link, user name and password.(you will have to create the TORRENT, upload it and share it.)
good thought, but
I like the good idea, but think that members will still want to download from the chef's website. Reason being, the chef's website will have a description and pics of their roms as well as easy updates & and discusion.
Additionally, the DL speed max'd at 24kbs, and the dl would have taken 45 minutes, versus the less than 5 minutes from the chef's choice of file server.
Again, I think this is a good idea, but without the army of seeders and a large following of members to dl the roms... good idea, but maybe not.
Great Idea!
Actually sounds a great idea in theory. Ive already tested out a torrent version for ppc but took too long.
The points STU makes are correct and I agree. I guess the idea would be great in theory and definately handy if using a TILT via WIFI. I found myself stuck without a PC / Laptop recently. I can imagine a scenario like this whereby the software COULD come in handy especially if the speed was acceptable on wifi.(lack of seeders to begin with?)
Good Luck and I for one would like to hear of how you get on with this project.
Best Wishes
Nick
@Stu_Can_Sam,
I welcome any argument and have to agree on some points like i am not sharing with a high upload. But you already pointed out the force/weakness of P2P-torrent is the many seeders.
For an idea that hardly started and placing judgment is a bit premature.
For any idea something can be good or bad after living it a couple of months not just after a day. Look at chefs cooking their ROM's, at 1st they are not always great but using the forum and people adding positive feedback makes their ROM's really great after a couple of versions.
So give it some time, people have to know it and getting used to the idea, and reading around in this community i guess people are not just "hit and runners" and will share their downloaded stuff way longer. We are not talking about movies of 4GB here so storage is surely not an option.
Very interesting....
I hear and feel what the others have said, but this could also serve as a way for others to "see" what others are using and potentially help to eliminate all the "What Rom are you using?/What Rom is best?/Who is the best Chef?/What Radio is best?/etc...." threads that keep popping up and polluting the forum. It could also potentially serve as the "perfect" alternative for all those that complain that they cannot use 1 file sharing service or another for X reason.
Of course, as with any torrent-based d/l, the overall speed would be determined by the seeders, but for some of us, this would be a great way to assist with information sharing. I myself have 5 PC's at home that serve as a mini farm when i am not at home or during the wee hours of the morning, when the network traffic in my area is lowest.
The only major downside that I could potentially see is that here in the states, more and more ISPs are moving toward bandwidth caps and penalizing those who go over their limits. I should know as I work for one. If a ROM were to become REAL popular, then i could see where this would get sticky, but other than that I would see no long term problem.
What I would suggest is adding a link back to the particular thread or post that the ROM originated from so that users can see what they are downloading or find out what is included in each ROM, with a heading of "Technical support and FAQs found here..." or something similar.
That's enough from this peanut gallery... NEXT!!!!
To moderators: Where should I put / start a thread announcing torrent/ magnet link availability of a ROM?
I'm seeing posts in the forums from people having trouble with the various filesharing sites. I've had some time-wasting grief there myself in recent days with some the ROMs.
For anyone tired of the speed-choking fileshare sites (like...they slow down....and then stop completely 43MB into a 45MB file), I'm seeding this ROM on bittorrent.
Caveat: My uplink is only 110KBytes/second, but if several people download then seed these files, the cumulative transfer rate should be nice and quick....
The primary torrent is here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5286019
If you don't like The Pirate Bay for some reason, then Google "AOSP24.zip" and "torrent". Most other torrent sites pick up a new torrent from any other torrent site within 24 hours.
If Pirate bay is down or blocked, then here is the DHT Magnet Link, Cut / paste it into your bittorrent client. You don't need the torrent file.
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:xumhprzuxjc3ge4xjlondzwt47ztmt p3&dn=AOSP24.zip&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%2Fannounce
(There are two extraneous spaces in this magnet link (between "mt p3" and "bitto re", XDA's editor did it...I've tried to remove them).
Good idea. Torrents can be good LOL.
I think you should probably still upload to places like mediafire. Just cause torrents need seeders and when you run out it sux.
darthspartan said:
Good idea. Torrents can be good LOL.
I think you should probably still upload to places like mediafire. Just cause torrents need seeders and when you run out it sux.
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I know what you mean! I *hate* that!
I leave a torrent up until a torrent hasn't been touched for 3/4 weeks. Then I take it down on the basis no one wants it.
These files have limited shelf-life. In a month few people will want THIS file. They'll be on to the next one.
I would find a less dodgy link to be honest mate.
If it had not been thorugh thepiratebay's trackers I would have helped you seed for a while.
Eugene373 AOSP 2.4 - Eclair ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589344 Soooo.. Why would we need a torrent when the rom itself is 2 posts up? Also.. Me thinks eugene, who barley bothers with these whiny forums, isnt gonna be to happy about a torrent link for his rom.
very fast, just downloaded at 700k/s.
meh, no reason to complain about it being torrented... although I would just give the magnet link, as linking to piratebay.org is probably not kosher, as they obviously have pirated material too... I'm not even using that rom, but gonna seed 30:1
vixsandlee said:
I would find a less dodgy link to be honest mate.
If it had not been thorugh thepiratebay's trackers I would have helped you seed for a while.
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As far as I know, openbittorrent.com isn't a "pirate bay" tracker. It's just a tracker. Not sure it matters.
Pirate Bay is just a convenient site to load the torrent onto. *This* content isn't pirated and I don't care about anyone else's.
If you google "aosp24.zip" and "torrent", within 24 hours most of other torrent sites will have picked up the torrent.
AndroidSPIN FAST Direct Download
I've placed a mirror of this ROM on AndroidSPIN as I see people are having issues downloading from 4shared.
Head here to download Eugene Eclair 2.4.
Enjoy.
Get your Seed on, lol.....
androidspin ftw!!
the forums are kinda inactive tho...
I'll be seeding, I prefer a speedy torrent over those filesharing sites any day of the week.
I am the owner of Cross Industries. I currently run Glacier Host (glacierhosting.com)
Currently, I've seen a lot of developers who have no space to upload their roms. So, to help, I'm offering free hosting to developers who need it. I've got 2 dedicated servers in different locations. If you are interested, feel free to contact me or post below.
This offer is only available to developers, as I am going to allow over 1GB of disk space, and plenty of bandwidth, for them alone.
If you want free hosting for yourself, you can check out Glacier Host for yourself.
**Mods, I own a Captivate and I post this here for those developing Captivate roms. If this is in the wrong section of the captivate forums, please move it, thank you.
Very cool!
Schmarvin said:
I am the owner of Cross Industries. I currently run Glacier Host (glacierhosting.com)
Currently, I've seen a lot of developers who have no space to upload their roms. So, to help, I'm offering free hosting to developers who need it. I've got 2 dedicated servers in different locations. If you are interested, feel free to contact me or post below.
This offer is only available to developers, as I am going to allow over 1GB of disk space, and plenty of bandwidth, for them alone.
If you want free hosting for yourself, you can check out Glacier Host for yourself.
**Mods, I own a Captivate and I post this here for those developing Captivate roms. If this is in the wrong section of the captivate forums, please move it, thank you.
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To share the load I am very happy to offer the same or a mirror....
Apparently with all the rom mirrors dropping, its assumed people just don't want to continue development. :/
I've seen 3 rom devs drop off the radar because they don't have hosting.
Schmarvin said:
Apparently with all the rom mirrors dropping, its assumed people just don't want to continue development. :/
I've seen 3 rom devs drop off the radar because they don't have hosting.
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They don't seem to ask for it either...
And I'm not sure why? I'm not asking for any money. Hell, I'm not even really asking for anything in return. I like seeing new roms developed.
I am pretty sure hosting was not the only reason for dropping off, but I really admire you doing this for the community.
I have two mirrors, but I can always use an extra. (just kidding, I think I am good)
Meh, I'm just here to help. I know I'm not a developer or anywhere near that level to be able to help. But, at least I'm doing something.
How many times you opened a mediafire/megaupload/any other uploading site and had to wait many many hours to download something as a free user, and then, maybe when you just are above 90%, it just interrupts?
well, **** happens, we all know that, and the main problem is that storage sites don't allow the use of a download manager. And that becomes a problem when the site you're referring to caps the download speed at like 20-25 KB/s and you're downloading a very large file.
So i was thinking, couldn't it become a forum rule, or at least something strongly adviced, to post a torrent link for large files, let's say larger than 150MB?
I mean, we all are REALLY grateful to people who make all the tinkering possible, who provide us with blazing fast and stable ROMs or with nice apps, but sometimes it gets frustrating to download from those sites! Maybe posting a torrent link wouldn't cost them much, it's just a couple of minutes task and it could get very useful!
Thank you very much!
Hmm.... guess I don't see a problem with that...
you want something for free and you want the person offering up the item that is free to pay for fast downloading ???............ clueless and inconsiderate....
firebirdude said:
Hmm.... guess I don't see a problem with that...
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I remember writing an email to XDa about that way back in 2006,they said theyd look into it. Of course, back then there were lawsuits against the owners of the torrent sites. that shouldnt have been a problem for people distributing Roms since they didn't have copyright.We have plenty of seeders so the downloads will be fast and reliable.
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Torrents are normally associated with warez
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If anything to discuss please PM me
If torrents are used to post ROMS which don't contain warez of ANY SORT, it would be acceptable. If Any chef is interested in doing that they can take permission and get verified by a moerator/admin and post the link - but on a trusted torrent host.
Thread remains closed as we do not encourage discussion or use or torrens ( which we all know are majorly associated with WAREZ/pirated things ).
I am thinking of setting up torrents for some of our amazing ROM's to give people another way to download which in theory could be ALOT faster than any of the direct download services Devs use at the moment.
If your a dev and think this is a great idea and want me to start a torrent for your ROM PM me or post here!
If your not sure what a torrent or torrenting is check out the good old wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
After all, most if not all good Linux distros offer a torrent why shouldnt android ROMS
I would love to! But i think it would only be worth it for more popular ROMs.
zacthespack said:
I am thinking of setting up torrents for some of our amazing ROM's to give people another way to download which in theory could be ALOT faster than any of the direct download services Devs use at the moment.
If your a dev and think this is a great idea and want me to start a torrent for your ROM PM me or post here!
If your not sure what a torrent or torrenting is check out the good old wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
After all, most if not all good Linux distros offer a torrent why shouldnt android ROMS
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I use torrents a lot!
The beauty of torrent is the ability to verify files being downloaded. It just might end the problem of file corruption during download ....
Probably one of the best ideas for exchanging ROMs. I hope that the rest of the devs will do the same.
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I would, but only for popular ROMs which would have more seeders. Torrents can't be used for ROMs which aren't so popular as it would result in slow downloads. Besides, torrents are much faster and no need to "Wait 60 seconds or go premium" or writing Capatchas.
This can be a solution. The only problem I see is keeping the latest version of a rom. Since lots of people may not be able to read posts it can be a lot of work for the devs to keep their opening posts updated with the latest sources.
This may not be such a big problem here in the DS forum since we are not so many (sadly the DS is not one of HTCs bestsellers) - but imagine the bashing if some don't read the latest torrent written two posts before.
Nevertheless, torrents can help, but I agree only for popular roms.
Agree completely, but yes, we need seeders....
Also the attitude of the people out here, if you download, seed it back!!!!
My main concern is speed, has to be at least 100kb/s, thus seeders are going to be a concern.
Thanks for all the replys, ok then so what ROM's do you think we should do to start with?
Definitely primo and ice cold sandwich
Swyped from my HTC Desire S....
I agree this is a good idea but unless someone has a seedbox which can seed round the clock 24/7 I can't see it working because most people won't seed back thus another dead torrent.
DuTY09 said:
I agree this is a good idea but unless someone has a seedbox which can seed round the clock 24/7 I can't see it working because most people won't seed back thus another dead torrent.
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Well I have created the page in the dev section with the links here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559247
And my laptop for all new torrents will be running at least solidly for a good few days, I do only have about 150kb/s upload so it will not be amazing fast to start with but will add new torrents once people have download the others etc.
SEED men SEED!!!
@zacthespack
What would also be awesome if it can also be uploaded to Usenet.
Also it must be a split file with par2 files.
I have dedicated seedbox and 100 Mbit FTH line. Will look at this later if there is a need.
R.
RolF2 said:
I have dedicated seedbox and 100 Mbit FTH line. Will look at this later if there is a need.
R.
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Once my seedbox sorts itself out mine will be used for this to, over the day I have had quite a few hits so it looks like people really are interested.
More seedboxs the better, check out the dev thread on it for the torrents running at the mo, once my seedbox is working I shall do many many more
Torrents might be a good idea for the latest ROMs but the older (maybe more stable once) will have lower seeds IMHO.
Anyway, my laptop (office equipment) dsnt allow me to use torrents on any network.
Personally I wouldn't. I DL ROMs directly from my phone, and I don't know how to use torrents on my PC anyway
I don't mind if the dev includes a torrent, as long as they include a regular DL aswell.
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olyloh6696 said:
Personally I wouldn't. I DL ROMs directly from my phone, and I don't know how to use torrents on my PC anyway
I don't mind if the dev includes a torrent, as long as they include a regular DL aswell.
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Well yes I think the devs should still give a normal link, but so many complain of slow downloads etc a torrent option would give them something else to use
(plus it is very easy to use torrents and there are torrent clients for android even)
zacthespack said:
Well yes I think the devs should still give a normal link, but so many complain of slow downloads etc a torrent option would give them something else to use
(plus it is very easy to use torrents and there are torrent clients for android even)
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Yeah man, don't get me wrong, your idea is great! I'm not trying to put you down or anything. I appreciate the effort you are putting into this 'project'
It's just my personal preference, I'd prefer to DL normal, regular zips
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It's a good idea with torrents.
I've already used torrents provided CM mirror network for sharing.