I am thinking of setting up torrents for some of our amazing ROM's to give people another way to download which in theory could be ALOT faster than any of the direct download services Devs use at the moment.
If your a dev and think this is a great idea and want me to start a torrent for your ROM PM me or post here!
If your not sure what a torrent or torrenting is check out the good old wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
After all, most if not all good Linux distros offer a torrent why shouldnt android ROMS
I would love to! But i think it would only be worth it for more popular ROMs.
zacthespack said:
I am thinking of setting up torrents for some of our amazing ROM's to give people another way to download which in theory could be ALOT faster than any of the direct download services Devs use at the moment.
If your a dev and think this is a great idea and want me to start a torrent for your ROM PM me or post here!
If your not sure what a torrent or torrenting is check out the good old wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
After all, most if not all good Linux distros offer a torrent why shouldnt android ROMS
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I use torrents a lot!
The beauty of torrent is the ability to verify files being downloaded. It just might end the problem of file corruption during download ....
Probably one of the best ideas for exchanging ROMs. I hope that the rest of the devs will do the same.
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I would, but only for popular ROMs which would have more seeders. Torrents can't be used for ROMs which aren't so popular as it would result in slow downloads. Besides, torrents are much faster and no need to "Wait 60 seconds or go premium" or writing Capatchas.
This can be a solution. The only problem I see is keeping the latest version of a rom. Since lots of people may not be able to read posts it can be a lot of work for the devs to keep their opening posts updated with the latest sources.
This may not be such a big problem here in the DS forum since we are not so many (sadly the DS is not one of HTCs bestsellers) - but imagine the bashing if some don't read the latest torrent written two posts before.
Nevertheless, torrents can help, but I agree only for popular roms.
Agree completely, but yes, we need seeders....
Also the attitude of the people out here, if you download, seed it back!!!!
My main concern is speed, has to be at least 100kb/s, thus seeders are going to be a concern.
Thanks for all the replys, ok then so what ROM's do you think we should do to start with?
Definitely primo and ice cold sandwich
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I agree this is a good idea but unless someone has a seedbox which can seed round the clock 24/7 I can't see it working because most people won't seed back thus another dead torrent.
DuTY09 said:
I agree this is a good idea but unless someone has a seedbox which can seed round the clock 24/7 I can't see it working because most people won't seed back thus another dead torrent.
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Well I have created the page in the dev section with the links here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559247
And my laptop for all new torrents will be running at least solidly for a good few days, I do only have about 150kb/s upload so it will not be amazing fast to start with but will add new torrents once people have download the others etc.
SEED men SEED!!!
@zacthespack
What would also be awesome if it can also be uploaded to Usenet.
Also it must be a split file with par2 files.
I have dedicated seedbox and 100 Mbit FTH line. Will look at this later if there is a need.
R.
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I have dedicated seedbox and 100 Mbit FTH line. Will look at this later if there is a need.
R.
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Once my seedbox sorts itself out mine will be used for this to, over the day I have had quite a few hits so it looks like people really are interested.
More seedboxs the better, check out the dev thread on it for the torrents running at the mo, once my seedbox is working I shall do many many more
Torrents might be a good idea for the latest ROMs but the older (maybe more stable once) will have lower seeds IMHO.
Anyway, my laptop (office equipment) dsnt allow me to use torrents on any network.
Personally I wouldn't. I DL ROMs directly from my phone, and I don't know how to use torrents on my PC anyway
I don't mind if the dev includes a torrent, as long as they include a regular DL aswell.
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Personally I wouldn't. I DL ROMs directly from my phone, and I don't know how to use torrents on my PC anyway
I don't mind if the dev includes a torrent, as long as they include a regular DL aswell.
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Well yes I think the devs should still give a normal link, but so many complain of slow downloads etc a torrent option would give them something else to use
(plus it is very easy to use torrents and there are torrent clients for android even)
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Well yes I think the devs should still give a normal link, but so many complain of slow downloads etc a torrent option would give them something else to use
(plus it is very easy to use torrents and there are torrent clients for android even)
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Yeah man, don't get me wrong, your idea is great! I'm not trying to put you down or anything. I appreciate the effort you are putting into this 'project'
It's just my personal preference, I'd prefer to DL normal, regular zips
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It's a good idea with torrents.
I've already used torrents provided CM mirror network for sharing.
Related
OK everything you need to flash the latest Cyanogen mod in one torrent
(Thanks for seeding the last torrent cranked up some mad speed in the swam)
This torrent includes:
-Cyanogen Mod 4.2.9.1
-BFS/10M hack
-HTC input
-HTC recovery image
Download (if you have the old torrent you can seed the files that havent changed 'let me know if there is a better way to update the torrent'
http://drop.io/cyanogen4291
Mirror http://alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=700&p=5420#p5420
Please seed if you can
Old
http://drop.io/cyanogen4281
http://drop.io/cyanogen428
why would you put it in a torrent? why not put it on a filehosting site?
2girls1cup said:
why would you put it in a torrent? why not put it on a filehosting site?
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i prefer bittorent. it has every file in one link. plus allot of hosting sites pull links. mainly put this up since the htc recovery is down. I figured there were seeders like me that just prefer distributed hosting like bittorent. I rarely see torrent links so i figured id stop asking for one and create one. this way you wont be subject to the adds and tricks of file hosts i guess. but most of us probably use adblock any way.
well im trying to download the torrent and it is reeeaallly slow. Thats why people don't use torrent man. They require many seeders...
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well im trying to download the torrent and it is reeeaallly slow. Thats why people don't use torrent man. They require many seeders...
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yeah at first. im the only 100% seed, but as the swarm goes it can get much faster. i max my downstream with torrents on private trackers that have fat swarms
Mediafire.com is the best.
Sorry off topic but 2girls1cup is EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
i thought BFS in unstable compare to CFS?
how about once someone gets it downloaded they return the favor by uplaoding to a file sharing site. This way people could decide whats best for them.
i don't even know how to dowload a torrent lol. i really need the htc 1.6 recovery image. ugh!
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i don't even know how to dowload a torrent lol. i really need the htc 1.6 recovery image. ugh!
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Get a torrent client, utorrent or bittorrent
"i prefer bittorent. it has every file in one link."
ever heard of a zip? LOL
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"i prefer bittorent. it has every file in one link."
ever heard of a zip? LOL
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Thats not very nice, hes trying to help you guys out and you leave him hanging
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Thats not very nice, hes trying to help you guys out and you leave him hanging
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You have to remember this Ahronzombi is the one who does these things to everyone else
But enough with that someone should start seeding, it's going WAY too slow.
Boo for torrent distribution, these files are SMALL, just host them somewhere. If they were >200mb then it might make sense, but its just a waste of time and resources for a ~60mb file
Also, there are TONS of builds that just bunch together Cyanogen and some extra stuff, this is totally unnecessary, imo
6 seeds so far. ive uploaded about 5 times over so far. the swarm speed should be better now.
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Boo for torrent distribution, these files are SMALL, just host them somewhere. If they were >200mb then it might make sense, but its just a waste of time and resources for a ~60mb file
Also, there are TONS of builds that just bunch together Cyanogen and some extra stuff, this is totally unnecessary, imo
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I disagree. While I was waiting for 4.2.8 to download from a mirror onto my phone at a blazing ~100 KB/sec, I was thinking, if the cmupdate used a lightweight bittorrent client, it might just be faster.
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I disagree. While I was waiting for 4.2.8 to download from a mirror onto my phone at a blazing ~100 KB/sec, I was thinking, if the cmupdate used a lightweight bittorrent client, it might just be faster.
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yeah bittorent can be fast especially with the number of people who use this mod. would be nice if cm updater seeded
if cyan's server on
http://n0rp.chemlab.org/android/
seeded, and he distributed his updates via torrents as well, we could get a massive swarm every time he releases.
initial downloads could be handled by his server and after enough people have the file, the swarm can take care of the rest
that would be great! getting +500kb/s on these updates ;D
I upped to RS
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/320524137/CM4.2.8.rar
Thanks to all the seeders. If someone could upload this to real hosting not any shotty wait and click service like rapid share, then I could take the direct link and add it to the torrent as a web seed.
I've created a new high performance hosting site for WinMo and Android custom roms. It is still however in beta but I expect that it will be finalised before the end of June
The servers (Yes I mean that in plural ) that are being used are located in Dublin, Ireland (My hometown) so as to ensure brilliant speeds for both the US and EU. This service is of course free however there are certain rules that must be followed to preserve the integrity of the site. For example, I will not be allowing full scale discussion like here on XDA to make it easier for people to navigate ROMs.
In any case, when you host a ROM on my infrastructure you get both regular HTTP download and bittorrent download as a backup so your ROMs will always be available. No more rapidshare! Devs get unlimited space for their ROMs and those with more than five distinct ROMs get their own subforum to release their ROMs on. Again, I would like to stress that the primary aim of this site will not be ROM development as is XDA or MoDaCo but it's aim is to be sooner or later the comprehensive database for custom ROMs on both Android and Windows Mobile.
In any case, the site's URL is http://www.smartroms.com I hope you do find it useful, if you encounter any bugs or the like please send me a pm and I will look into it
Nice idea. Good luck with it. I'm registering just now!
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Nice idea. Good luck with it. I'm registering just now!
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Can you let me know if the registration page redirects you correctly? I noticed a few times that it kept hanging on redirecting during testing but it disappeared after I made a few seemingly irrelevant code changes.
Anyways, give me feedback!
It redirected me fine. The only tiny thing I'd say is that once you register and you are redirected to the login page, instead of your username being pre-filled, it puts your email address in.
Some less 'savvy' people might stumble on that and wonder why they can't log in.
As I say it's no biggy but you know what some users are like
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It redirected me fine. The only tiny thing I'd say is that once you register and you are redirected to the login page, instead of your username being pre-filled, it puts your email address in.
Some less 'savvy' people might stumble on that and wonder why they can't log in.
As I say it's no biggy but you know what some users are like
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That's odd, must have a look at that, thanks for letting me know
No bother. It might be a PHPbb thing. I used to run a PHPbb board many moons ago. They have changed a bit since then. lol
I really like the idea.
Thank you for providing a fast platform
Nece one, will check out soon. Thanks!
Sounds great, Roms with *****ing
Moved as not ROM Dev.
B.t.w already a hosting solution http://www.xdaroms.com/
Appreciate the offer and contribution.
Yup! A central place for finding ROMs should be brilliant.
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
here's your feedback:
mobilitydigest.com/who-else-hates-rapidshare-chefs-take-note/
good work man
Re: ROM chefs who need extra hosting
that could be very good!
thx man
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I've replied to your blog post d0ugie just if you want to verify that it's me that made that post
Thanks for the warm response guys!
Awesome
well i thinks that's great
Server is too busy
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Server is too busy
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that's really bad... for a hosting site
I've been working all night migrating the server to vBulletin instead of the phpbb system it is now. That's why it's slowing down from time to time. I thought it would be safer to work through the night as less people would be accessing the site but I suppose I thought wrong
In any case the site is hosted across multiple servers for performance and redundancy reasons so when the site is finalised there should never be any speed issues.
why are we not sharing files via .torrent
the multiload/rapidshare thing is crap!
I'd be more than happy to start a few files, I think there is enough traffic here to justify, and files would fly! I can support an FTP server for uploads.
Just sayin'...
Not everyone is going to seed, not everyone knows what a torrent is, etc. It is much quicker doing it with multiple mirrors. If one is too slow, you can just download from another. I haven't had any problems with the multiple mirrors. Why is it crap to you?
Think about it, people here have trouble flashing .zips. Now you want to ask them to download a program and set it up just so they can download a file, instead of just clicking 2 buttons and entering a capcha. Their heads will explode.
I guess I think it's crap because I've just spent 45min to D/L 230mb in files and now have to wait 51min to start the third... and if I miss the window, I have to start all over again! Not all the files are this bad, but not all have a choice of mirrors. I understand your point, but these files are small, and just a few seeders, the root of .torrents anyway, would easily keep things flowing. I would seed... it's the "rule"
I'm with andybolt on this one. I understand that people can be clueless and unwilling to learn so lets compromise and have multiload/rapidshare links and torrent links. There are even torrent clients that run through the browser and you can create a link that sends them to the site and starts a specified torrent for them. Don't even have to click on a link. I'd be happy to seed, it'd be a simple way to contribute, and I know some of us would love to contribute in some way, along with beer money of course.
I'm all for torrent files, that would be better.
I'd like to see this too. I'll write up a quick tutorial on how to download torrents if a mod will sticky it. Then we can answer any torrent related questions in that thread.
The only disadvantage I see is that I often download them on my phone.
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eallan said:
The only disadvantage I see is that I often download them on my phone.
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Use ttorrent, I download torrents on my thunderbolt. I would be more than happy to leave stuff seeding on my box at home though. I have stuff years old still seeding. Also transdroid to control my transmission client on my ubuntu box.
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psylink said:
Use ttorrent, I download torrents on my thunderbolt. I would be more than happy to leave stuff seeding on my box at home though. I have stuff years old still seeding. Also transdroid to control my transmission client on my ubuntu box.
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Thanks for the ttorrent app recommendation. 4g torrents at work now yay
Thunderbolt «» das BAMF Remix
Yeah I think is crappy too. I wish it would be easy. Although the direct download one is good
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Nice... I didn't get flamed on this one. So, what are we interested in starting with? I've sported a dozen roms, and am currently running Bamf 1.5 Remix, with a few of extra's. If anyone knows how to get started sharing, I have some space to offer. I seed all I "leech" but have not messed with uploading aTorrent, and does a tracker need to be involved?
I support releasing it via torrent as well. I have a 30/5 package at home and that 5 portion of it hasn't been doing much lately. I will leave stuff seeding until it's no longer needed.
I'm all for dling through torrent, as I have a habit of leaving them up until I realize my connection goes to crap, which is usually a week or so.
meh for being a long-time lurker, I'm not sure if this would be a good or bad idea.....I guess the only way to tell is to try it out right? Lets hope a dev picks up on the idea and gives it as an option for us to download.
I have an idea. How about someone start seeding for the devs and send us info to add it as a mirror?
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I have an idea. How about someone start seeding for the devs and send us info to add it as a mirror?
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I'll seed the BAMFS as soon as I get to the house.
Just a comment: I often download these files at work and there's no way I'm running a bittorrent at work. So I, for one, very much prefer that we keep them hosted via http. Secondly, there have been many people with fat pipes who offer to host things for free. If somebody hosts via multiupload or some other site like that, they're just not looking hard enough for free hosting. But that said, multiupload is more preferable to torrent for me.
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Just a comment: I often download these files at work and there's no way I'm running a bittorrent at work. So I, for one, very much prefer that we keep them hosted via http. Secondly, there have been many people with fat pipes who offer to host things for free. If somebody hosts via multiupload or some other site like that, they're just not looking hard enough for free hosting. But that said, multiupload is more preferable to torrent for me.
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It never hurts to have more options.
Just wondered if anyone had considered creating torrents for things instead of posting links to upload sites or having to worry about having to host things on a private server. This could solve a lot of problems and make downloads much faster for everyone. Linux users probably already know that many of the linux distro sites offer torrents just for that reason.
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Just wondered if anyone had considered creating torrents for things instead of posting links to upload sites or having to worry about having to host things on a private server. This could solve a lot of problems and make downloads much faster for everyone. Linux users probably already know that many of the linux distro sites offer torrents just for that reason.
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I think they like to track the # of downloads, I don't know if you can do that with Torrents.
Another reason is, such as with the bamf previews, they can take them down. On a torrent they do not have that option.
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This was suggested a couple months ago. I seeded BAMF and BAMF Remix 1.6.3 or something for a couple weeks and posted it in the BAMF thread because people asked but no one used it.
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Another reason is, such as with the bamf previews, they can take them down. On a torrent they do not have that option.
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Why should they really care if they can take them down or not? If there is a problem with the ROM and it is bricking everyone's phone, just make a new sticky that says "Don't install this". This whole recurring theme about "don't re-post the ROM cause you might piss off the devs" is kind of silly.
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Why should they really care if they can take them down or not? If there is a problem with the ROM and it is bricking everyone's phone, just make a new sticky that says "Don't install this". This whole recurring theme about "don't re-post the ROM cause you might piss off the devs" is kind of silly.
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Because they were strictly previews, and it was stated as such that they would only be available for a short time. And honestly if a dev wants control over their Rom and where it's located, well more power to them.
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abn75 said:
Because they were strictly previews, and it was stated as such that they would only be available for a short time. And honestly if a dev wants control over their Rom and where it's located, well more power to them.
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So we are rooting our phones against the wishes of our carrier and manufacturer but don't want to upset a dev by posting their rom where folks can download it faster? We do the same thing with most all other applications on the internet without regard to the original developers. Firefox has retired Firefox 4 but you can still find plenty of places on the net to download it.
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So we are rooting our phones against the wishes of our carrier and manufacturer but don't want to upset a dev by posting their rom where folks can download it faster? We do the same thing with most all other applications on the internet without regard to the original developers. Firefox has retired Firefox 4 but you can still find plenty of places on the net to download it.
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Way I see it, the devs have the right to request that no one mirror their roms for what ever reason, be it tracking downloads, ability to take them down (again for what ever reason) or just plain being a ass. If people dont agree with that request, they can and should feel free to download a different rom.
Also with torrents, can you really be sure you are getting the correct file? how many people actually check the md5 before trying to flash the rom? Keeping it in the control of the dev insures, at least partially, that the download is correct.
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Way I see it, the devs have the right to request that no one mirror their roms for what ever reason, be it tracking downloads, ability to take them down (again for what ever reason) or just plain being a ass. If people dont agree with that request, they can and should feel free to download a different rom.
Also with torrents, can you really be sure you are getting the correct file? how many people actually check the md5 before trying to flash the rom? Keeping it in the control of the dev insures, at least partially, that the download is correct.
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Or we can continue with the spirit that makes the internet great including things like custom ROMs, and do whatever the hell we want to do.
This code is owned by Android / HTC. Did the devs get their permission before they modified it and posted their custom ROM?
Please, this whole "lets don't upset the devs" is getting really old. XDA is full of a bunch of dev ass kissers and smart ass devs.
If someone is too dumb to generate a MD5 then that is their fault.
As stated above, torrents are a bad idea when it comes to flashing a Rom. Also if you do ever upload a Rom anywhere make sure you ask the developer first no matter whether you think you should or not
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Or we can continue with the spirit that makes the internet great including things like custom ROMs, and do whatever the hell we want to do.
This code is owned by Android / HTC. Did the devs get their permission before they modified it and posted their custom ROM?
Please, this whole "lets don't upset the devs" is getting really old. XDA is full of a bunch of dev ass kissers and smart ass devs.
If someone is too dumb to generate a MD5 then that is their fault.
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If XDA is so bad, why are you here? Honestly? There are other sites, go find one
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If XDA is so bad, why are you here? Honestly? There are other sites, go find one
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Nah, I'll just stay here and try to make it better
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Nah, I'll just stay here and try to make it better
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Well you're doing a fine job right now...
As some of you may know uTorrent finally go around to releasing an app for android. It can be found on Play or here is the direct link for the googley challenged:
uTorrent
The release of this app got me to thinking about using torrents as a means to keep ROMs on a personal servers instead of relying on Goo or Sourceforge or GFX.Myst for that matter. By my logic it seems that having them upped as torrents will keep them alive for a very long time as well as providing faster access to them. This idea has been mentioned on various forums in the past but never seems to get past the idea stage. So I'd like to hear others thoughts on the subject. Discuss.
It seems to me that the seeding wouldn't go on for too long. I can seed my own torrents for a while since I'm running a raspberry pi with transmission on it so I'd be able to share the roms that way except that my upload speed is only ~60kB/s. We'd have to wait for people to get a copy of the roms which might take an hour before the 3rd, 4th, etc people get good speeds, assuming people continue seeding them.
25 mbps upload speed could come in handy
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I thought about the lack of seeds as well. Seems that there might be enough people to keep ROMs on seedboxes? It's really hard to say whether it will be better or not. I think for popular ROMs it wouldn't be an issue. Some of the more dated ROMs might suffer. How many DL's of you guys had for CM9 or AOKP? I'd imagine a lot. If even 5% of those people kept the torrent up seeding wouldn't be an issue.
This is real handy for popular roms. But once a phone/rom goes stagnant you need a dedicated seed box. I read a thread on reddit about this. Couple of CM people chimed in and said the same thing. Its not a viable option once the rom is not being updated daily. I think CM uses this for nightly's but once a rom is final its better to have a static host.
I would bet if people look at download stats the first few days after a rom is released the download rate is crazy high then it will almost fall to a couple downloads a day. What gets me is places like sourceforge will keep a file hosted but if no activity in say two weeks the dl speeds are so horrendous you want to say screw it. I downloaded bhundvens stock kj6 one click yesterday. It took right at 88 minutes to download. However I could download stuff from mediafire that was slightly larger in less than five minutes.
Yeah I'll do a torrent only release next time as a test. It'll probably only have hefe kod and the latest aroma installer so it wouldn't be a major release
I'll dl it and help seed.
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So I'd like to hear others thoughts on the subject. Discuss.
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I would LOVE to see this happen, and I'm willing to host things as well. In fact, I will likely seed everything from my Amazon S3 storage unless it gets too expensive.
I'm not an important member of the sgs4g community but in any case I do not use torrents at all. I won't begin to either. I'm sure there are others who feel the sane way. I've yet to run in to problems with the hosting sites being used. Some might be slow once in a while but I'm patient enough. If you do go the torrent route it'd be nice to have an alt dl.
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I would be interested in having links to torrents on major trackers, I would leave them seeding nearly 24/7/365
I second this, I would love to be a seeder and have it running 24/7/366!
BOO YA!
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Erikmm gave me the green light to start a torrent of his roms.
Stay tuned....
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Erikmm gave me the green light to start a torrent of his roms.
Stay tuned....
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Sweet. I saw the posts you made in Eriks threads. I'm still curious to see how this works. One thing I would suggest is to start a thread in General. List the ROMs and there respective torrent links. That way the posts won't get buried and forgotten. If it works well you should ask Erik to add the torrent link in the OP's as well.
Good point.
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