cognition perception 8 - Captivate General

Hello, I had a question about flashing a new rom . I wanted to update my cognition from 2.3.6b to the latest one but someone told me to do perception build 8. So I downloaded both of them and I was also told to rom to stock before doing it. My question is if I do flash to stock wouldn't I have to really root my phone and get froyo back on it? Before flashing either one of these and which one do u recommend for the captivate?
thank you

the rom include froyo, yes you would have to root again

I normally do a master clear in Odin after I flash stock so you'll need to root it again.
The best option is to copy your update zip file ( from CWM ) to you comp or external card before you flash to stock and then put it back after you flash to stock. Three button recovery combo, reinstall packages and you are good to go to flash your new rom.

My update.zip is only 1.7mb is that right? So flash to stock get cwm and the 3 button recovery thing that's not download mode is it?
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I'm having a hard time comprehending posts 1 & 2, but here we go:
It is strongly recommended you flash back to stock JF6 before flashing a new ROM. Cognition and Perception are both FroYo ROMs...so you don't "get it back", whatever that means.
If you currently have ROM Manager installed on your phone, open up the app and select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". This should invoke a small download of a file named "update.zip" that gets stored at the root of your /sdcard. The update.zip file is ClockworkMod Recovery. When you are preparing to flash a new rom, move that update.zip (ClockworkMod Recovery) OFF of your phone, onto your computer. Use Odin to flash back to stock. Once you're back in stock JF6, you want to move the update.zip back to your phone as well as Perception/Cognition. Now all you need to do is boot into Android Recovery and select "reinstall packages" until you are in ClockworkMod Recovery, and flash away.
If you DON'T save off the update.zip which is CWM, you will need to do a root after you've flashed to stock JF6. You need to root so that you can then download ROM Manager from the market, and select "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery", and then follow ROM flashing procedures.
I'm not going to say Cognition is better than Perception or vice versa. They are both great, and designgears has said he will continue to work on both. You can read through the respective threads and generate your own opinion on what you should flash.

Thank you norcal! That was exactly what I needed to know
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need helpp...plse

got a galaxy 4g running on stock rom rooted, i flash a bali kernal and now my screen goes black when it start up....plse help
ekcivic2000 said:
got a galaxy 4g running on stock rom rooted, i flash a bali kernal and now my screen goes black when it start up....plse help
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are you running a stock deodexed rom?
if he said stock rooted im going to guess prob a no
can you get into recovery or download mode at all?
im on the stock one, whatever came with the phone, yes i can get in recovery and download mode
you need cwm final from krylon360 u can find it in the bible and also you will need the modified recovery file and a deodexed rom u can get from the bible follow the directions and then u can have your kernel
ekcivic2000 said:
im on the stock one, whatever came with the phone, yes i can get in recovery and download mode
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I suggest to Odin this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063696
im really new with android, going to need help on this, but i chk out the bible
also read the thread noobs guide to flashing odin and just follow directions if you need any help feel free to ask we are glad to help new members and welcome to the community
im confused about how to flash the cwm recovery, how do i flash it?
ekcivic2000 said:
im confused about how to flash the cwm recovery, how do i flash it?
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the update zip goes on the root of the sd card
meaning not in a folder dont extract it just copy it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
after you odin according to the noobs guide to odin in the bible,
go to krylons final cwm. his directions are pretty straightforward. i used root explorer to move the recovery file where it needed to be and placed the update.zip file on the root of your sd, which means that if you connect your phone to the computer and open it using windows explorer, it is that first window, which lists all of the folders. dont put these files in folders or anything.
i am assuming you downloaded the rom already from the CWM rom section in the bible. its up to you. im biased towards bionix frost because it was what i started with, but you HAVE to check out team acids new roms!
i would also dl bali 3.3 kernel as well. place all of the zip files you download into the root of your sd card..
once that is done, i restarted my phone in recovery by shutting down fully and pressing the power+volume up+volume down. once there, i went to reinstall packages to get into cwm.
then when this loads, i wiped the system/factory reset and wiped the cache. then i went to mounts and storage and mounted my system. (the final mounting output should be: unmount, mount, mount, unmount). i then scrolled to "go back"
i choose install zip file from sd card. choose zip file, which should be the second option if my memory serves me right. choose your cwm flashable rom and install that one. then when that is done, went back and went to advanced and rebooted recovery and flashed my bali uv kernel. when that is flashed, i click go back and choose reboot system. once that is done, you will see the galaxy s screen for like 5 min or so followed by the boot animation. once you see this, it will take another minute or so to load up. once you see that the rom loads up...LET THE PHONE SIT FOR 10 minutes. i know it seems long, but just let it sit.
after 10 min or so, i would go into your about phone options and check and see that you have bali and that the rom is correct.
you can flash a modem too using the same process as flashing any other zip file.
remember, the first option in choosing a zip file is update.zip from krylons final cwm. do not flash this after the rom/ext/whatever. im not sure if this has been addressed (im still a noob), but everytime i did that, i bricked my phone. lol. so just to answer your question before you wonder...cause i always wondered whether i should flash that or not. lol. you do nothing with that update.zip. once you restart, and you see that you have bali 3+, you can delete that update.zip because it is no longer needed.
make sure you read through the original threads too before flashing.
gotcha, so all i need is the update.zip file? do i need the binary file?
yay! workssss, thanks everybody

[Q] ROM Manager bricking phones...?

Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!
Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.
Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?
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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
Thanks!
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?

[Q] Problems with ClockWork Samsung Infuse

I tried putting clockwork recovery onto my Samsung Infuse. I Installed it through a ROM Manager and now everytime i go into the ROM manager and select it to boot into recovery it boots into android system recovery. I cannot get to the Modified Recovery needed to install a cutom ROM.
What do i need to do to get CWM to work?
Flash the community kernel via ODIN
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VetteZ06 said:
I tried putting clockwork recovery onto my Samsung Infuse. I Installed it through a ROM Manager and now everytime i go into the ROM manager and select it to boot into recovery it boots into android system recovery. I cannot get to the Modified Recovery needed to install a cutom ROM.
What do i need to do to get CWM to work?
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Option 1:
1.-Download Sgs Kernel installer
2.- Download a Kernel with modified cwm included ( here one choice: http://www.multiupload.com/1E3AWIQYAA <--If you are on Froyo;
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZVYU3F106<-- If you are on Gingerbread) The links ARE NOT mine are gtgx.
3.-Put the kernel in your sd card.
4.-Open sgs kernel flasher and select the kernel.
It will reboot and convert your data to ext4 and also give you modified red cmw ready to install custom roms. It will take about 5 minutes be patient.
Option 2:
1.- Download the Defuse 1.5 one click kernel from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331381 (link NOT mine)
2.- Put your phone into download mode
3.- Run the file you downloaded it will do the work for you.
Find Odin preset with 3e and root. Follow directions and run odin properly with phone in download mode (explained in odin post). After that you will be rooted with modded 3e recovery. Then you can download rom manager when the phone reboots and flash for galaxy i9000, reboot into recovery and reinstall packages. You should be able to reinstall packages now since odin set up your recovery. It sounds like you aren't able to put the modded recovery in the system/bin folder; same thing happened to me. I had root, but could not modify the recovery file in system/bin. Odin is a charm, if I had the money I would donate to the guy who made it, unfortunately I don't at the moment. Odin says phone should show as com## yet mine showed as com0 and still worked. Probably depends on which USB port you use. Odin takes about 10 minutes to flash your phone but it will be worth it when you are done. I was skeptical because of the steps but it is very easy, once you get your phone into download mode its a breeze. PLEASE HAVE A FULL CHARGE WHEN YOU DO ANY FLASHING. If your phone dies you can have serious problems during the flash.
thank you all, I am going to try these once I get my internet restored.... this is kinda agony since my t1 line died....
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Just an update, Forced it to work with SGS kernel, it put up a huge fight tho... after CWM was installed i got GingerReal 2.3.5 on there. I iz happeh

[Q] CM7 / ICS Flashing issues

I soft bricked my phone playing with ICS, I got a JIG and solved the problem
I can now ODIN back to any version and once rooted I can install any samsung based rom, the problem comes when I try to flash aosp both CM7 and any ICS beta
What happens is I select the zip, it runs a script and the phone reboots, I see the AT&T logo and then it mounts the sd card, it says it can't find the zip file.
I've tried Froyo, Eclair, even gingerbread (I know your not supposed to flash cm7 from gingerbread, I'm just running outta ideas) I have froyo bootloaders, I reinstalled them with heimdal. I've also done a master clear and erased the internal sd card
Does anyone have an idea of why this is happening?
Are you trying to install the zip from ClockworkMod?
Most likely, the rom is incompatible with the flash method you are choosing which bricks your phone. I had this happen to me twice from either flashing a rom the wrong way or just trying to flash the wrong rom all together and killing my system, but I ended up telling AT&T Techs that it happened when I tried upgrading to 2.2 to avoid warranty issues and they replaced my whole device with a refurbished unit =]
However keep in mind that they cannot jig your device and you will have to do that yourself to get your data off your device before you try getting a new one via this method.
Possible Solution:
1. If you can, flash cm7 to your device
2. Flash This ICS rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
If you have already tried this then I apologize, but I hope this helps.
Another problem
Ok, everything I see says I should flash from a captivatemtd recovery, but when I install Rom manager and select captivatemtd, it says their are no offical recoveries for it, I'm currently running cognition froyo 2.2 with froyo bootloaders
Does anyone know where I can manually get the captivatemtd CWM? and how do I install it?
kataishin said:
Most likely, the rom is incompatible with the flash method you are choosing which bricks your phone. I had this happen to me twice from either flashing a rom the wrong way or just trying to flash the wrong rom all together and killing my system, but I ended up telling AT&T Techs that it happened when I tried upgrading to 2.2 to avoid warranty issues and they replaced my whole device with a refurbished unit =]
However keep in mind that they cannot jig your device and you will have to do that yourself to get your data off your device before you try getting a new one via this method.
Possible Solution:
1. If you can, flash cm7 to your device
2. Flash This ICS rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
If you have already tried this then I apologize, but I hope this helps.
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I can't flash cm7 either
movielover76 said:
Ok, everything I see says I should flash from a captivatemtd recovery, but when I install Rom manager and select captivatemtd, it says their are no offical recoveries for it, I'm currently running cognition froyo 2.2 with froyo bootloaders
Does anyone know where I can manually get the captivatemtd CWM? and how do I install it?
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I'll go over my method of installing(I've had ZERO issues flashing from/to any ROM)
1. I FTS/MC using Odin 1 Click. My phone build is 1008
2. Root with 1 click root(I have to do steps 2 and 3 because I do not have 3 button recovery)
3. Sideload and install ROM Manager(Rom manager, and CWM update.zip are in the Sideload zip that's attached)
4. Copy CWM Update.zip and ROM to device. Reboot and install CWM
5. Reboot into recovery and install ROM
Odin 1 Click(If you can use it)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12100225/Odin I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0.zip
Root 1 Click
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12100225/Root.zip
Sideload Wonder Machine and ROM Manager
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12100225/Sideloading.zip
Edit** What is the build number of your phone?
Here's what you need
Just download this rom
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/cm_captivatemtd_full-181.zip
And then watch this video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBPu-GqM9RE
Flash CM7 using odin
then flash ICS using clockwork mod using the instructions I gave you before.
That's the easiest way I found to do it and that's how I went from stock rom to CM7 rom and then finally to ICS
kataishin said:
Most likely, the rom is incompatible with the flash method you are choosing which bricks your phone. I had this happen to me twice from either flashing a rom the wrong way or just trying to flash the wrong rom all together and killing my system, but I ended up telling AT&T Techs that it happened when I tried upgrading to 2.2 to avoid warranty issues and they replaced my whole device with a refurbished unit =]
However keep in mind that they cannot jig your device and you will have to do that yourself to get your data off your device before you try getting a new one via this method.
Possible Solution:
1. If you can, flash cm7 to your device
2. Flash This ICS rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
If you have already tried this then I apologize, but I hope this helps.
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Tried this to the letter still doesn't work, could it be because of rom manager not finding a recovery for captivatemtd, some pages say I need that recovery but it isn't available in rom manager.
Finnally
Finnally got CM7 installed the problem was I had to do the three button boot into recovery twice, the first time updates clockworkmod to version 5.x
Now to try ICS again, wish me luck
Thanks
Thanks for all the suggestions, the tip in the video about flashing the speedmod kernel did help I think, I've successfully flashed
teamhacksung's ICS Port for Captivate (BUILD 9) again.
A couple notes here:
1 when your flashing cm7 from cwm( NOT 3e RECOVERY THOUGH) you need to flash the. Zip file, then reboot system, IT WILL PROBABLY BOOT LOOP, three button back to recovery and flash again, then while in recovery still flash gapps. Reboot and it will install fine. You should ONLY need to do the two time flash the first time going to cm7.
2. When you go to rom manager and choose manual flash overide from hitting the menu button you will get the unsupported recovery, DON'T WORRY about it and hit ok. Then another popup will come up and choose 3.x and it will work.
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rooting with odin?

I have a HTC Thunderbolt and im familar with rooting. Im getting a Samsung Droid Charge in a couple of weeks. I downloaded odin and the usb drivers for the phone. Do i just wipe the phone, put the phone in download mode, load any EE4 based rom and wipe after reboot? I can't find the altered beast rom because the feds jacked the megaupload servers.
thanks
If you just want root, all you need to do is flash CWM from odin, then boot right into cwm and flash the SU Binary.
You really don't want EE4. EE4 is Froyo based. ED4 is the latest release. Right now there are 3 roms based on it: Tweakstock, Infinity, and Eclipse. You are going to be way, way happier with any of them than you will be with anything EE4 based.
I am running tweak myself, but I believe if you look around you will find a rooted stock version of gb to use and yeah you just flash it in Odin and boot right into cwm
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shrike1978 said:
You really don't want EE4. EE4 is Froyo based. ED4 is the latest release. Right now there are 3 roms based on it: Tweakstock, Infinity, and Eclipse. You are going to be way, way happier with any of them than you will be with anything EE4 based.
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So im gonna give Eclipse 1.2 a spin but wasn't sure about CWM. Can i just go right in and flash the rom or should i flash CWM first? Does this rom include CWM? Can i use any version of CWM or should i use the latest version?
Thanks
kings322 said:
So im gonna give Eclipse 1.2 a spin but wasn't sure about CWM. Can i just go right in and flash the rom or should i flash CWM first? Does this rom include CWM? Can i use any version of CWM or should i use the latest version?
Thanks
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Copy the Eclipse file to your SD card first, and if you want to run a kernel (I recommend PBJ), copy it to the SD card as well. Use Odin to flash CWM (any version works, as long as it's one of the Charge Odin files). After that, pull your battery back out and put it back in, then boot directly into CWM by holding Home+VolUp+Power. If you let it boot normally, it will overwrite CWM with stock recovery. Using your volume buttons as arrow keys and your power button as select, wipe data/factory reset, then install from zip and select the rom file, and then, if you chose to flash a kernel, do the same for the kernel. Reboot and you should come up in your new rom. It will probably take a few minutes to boot the first time while it rebuilds the caches.
shrike1978 said:
Copy the Eclipse file to your SD card first, and if you want to run a kernel (I recommend PBJ), copy it to the SD card as well. Use Odin to flash CWM (any version works, as long as it's one of the Charge Odin files). After that, pull your battery back out and put it back in, then boot directly into CWM by holding Home+VolUp+Power. If you let it boot normally, it will overwrite CWM with stock recovery. Using your volume buttons as arrow keys and your power button as select, wipe data/factory reset, then install from zip and select the rom file, and then, if you chose to flash a kernel, do the same for the kernel. Reboot and you should come up in your new rom. It will probably take a few minutes to boot the first time while it rebuilds the caches.
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I can't seem to find the CWM odin package and the PBJ.zip to flash in CWM. Do you know where i can get these files?
Thanks again.
Imnuts primarily uses Rootzwiki for his releases, so it's easiest to find his stuff there.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11327-kernelclockworkmod-recovery/
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/137-kernel01-15-12peanutbutta-jelly-time/
I still recommend the old 0817 yellow CWM if people intend to nandroid backup/restore. That functionality seems to be hit or miss with the newest release.
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