[Q] CM7 / ICS Flashing issues - Captivate General

I soft bricked my phone playing with ICS, I got a JIG and solved the problem
I can now ODIN back to any version and once rooted I can install any samsung based rom, the problem comes when I try to flash aosp both CM7 and any ICS beta
What happens is I select the zip, it runs a script and the phone reboots, I see the AT&T logo and then it mounts the sd card, it says it can't find the zip file.
I've tried Froyo, Eclair, even gingerbread (I know your not supposed to flash cm7 from gingerbread, I'm just running outta ideas) I have froyo bootloaders, I reinstalled them with heimdal. I've also done a master clear and erased the internal sd card
Does anyone have an idea of why this is happening?

Are you trying to install the zip from ClockworkMod?

Most likely, the rom is incompatible with the flash method you are choosing which bricks your phone. I had this happen to me twice from either flashing a rom the wrong way or just trying to flash the wrong rom all together and killing my system, but I ended up telling AT&T Techs that it happened when I tried upgrading to 2.2 to avoid warranty issues and they replaced my whole device with a refurbished unit =]
However keep in mind that they cannot jig your device and you will have to do that yourself to get your data off your device before you try getting a new one via this method.
Possible Solution:
1. If you can, flash cm7 to your device
2. Flash This ICS rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
If you have already tried this then I apologize, but I hope this helps.

Another problem
Ok, everything I see says I should flash from a captivatemtd recovery, but when I install Rom manager and select captivatemtd, it says their are no offical recoveries for it, I'm currently running cognition froyo 2.2 with froyo bootloaders
Does anyone know where I can manually get the captivatemtd CWM? and how do I install it?

kataishin said:
Most likely, the rom is incompatible with the flash method you are choosing which bricks your phone. I had this happen to me twice from either flashing a rom the wrong way or just trying to flash the wrong rom all together and killing my system, but I ended up telling AT&T Techs that it happened when I tried upgrading to 2.2 to avoid warranty issues and they replaced my whole device with a refurbished unit =]
However keep in mind that they cannot jig your device and you will have to do that yourself to get your data off your device before you try getting a new one via this method.
Possible Solution:
1. If you can, flash cm7 to your device
2. Flash This ICS rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
If you have already tried this then I apologize, but I hope this helps.
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I can't flash cm7 either

movielover76 said:
Ok, everything I see says I should flash from a captivatemtd recovery, but when I install Rom manager and select captivatemtd, it says their are no offical recoveries for it, I'm currently running cognition froyo 2.2 with froyo bootloaders
Does anyone know where I can manually get the captivatemtd CWM? and how do I install it?
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I'll go over my method of installing(I've had ZERO issues flashing from/to any ROM)
1. I FTS/MC using Odin 1 Click. My phone build is 1008
2. Root with 1 click root(I have to do steps 2 and 3 because I do not have 3 button recovery)
3. Sideload and install ROM Manager(Rom manager, and CWM update.zip are in the Sideload zip that's attached)
4. Copy CWM Update.zip and ROM to device. Reboot and install CWM
5. Reboot into recovery and install ROM
Odin 1 Click(If you can use it)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12100225/Odin I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0.zip
Root 1 Click
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12100225/Root.zip
Sideload Wonder Machine and ROM Manager
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12100225/Sideloading.zip
Edit** What is the build number of your phone?

Here's what you need
Just download this rom
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/cm_captivatemtd_full-181.zip
And then watch this video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBPu-GqM9RE
Flash CM7 using odin
then flash ICS using clockwork mod using the instructions I gave you before.
That's the easiest way I found to do it and that's how I went from stock rom to CM7 rom and then finally to ICS

kataishin said:
Most likely, the rom is incompatible with the flash method you are choosing which bricks your phone. I had this happen to me twice from either flashing a rom the wrong way or just trying to flash the wrong rom all together and killing my system, but I ended up telling AT&T Techs that it happened when I tried upgrading to 2.2 to avoid warranty issues and they replaced my whole device with a refurbished unit =]
However keep in mind that they cannot jig your device and you will have to do that yourself to get your data off your device before you try getting a new one via this method.
Possible Solution:
1. If you can, flash cm7 to your device
2. Flash This ICS rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
If you have already tried this then I apologize, but I hope this helps.
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Tried this to the letter still doesn't work, could it be because of rom manager not finding a recovery for captivatemtd, some pages say I need that recovery but it isn't available in rom manager.

Finnally
Finnally got CM7 installed the problem was I had to do the three button boot into recovery twice, the first time updates clockworkmod to version 5.x
Now to try ICS again, wish me luck

Thanks
Thanks for all the suggestions, the tip in the video about flashing the speedmod kernel did help I think, I've successfully flashed
teamhacksung's ICS Port for Captivate (BUILD 9) again.

A couple notes here:
1 when your flashing cm7 from cwm( NOT 3e RECOVERY THOUGH) you need to flash the. Zip file, then reboot system, IT WILL PROBABLY BOOT LOOP, three button back to recovery and flash again, then while in recovery still flash gapps. Reboot and it will install fine. You should ONLY need to do the two time flash the first time going to cm7.
2. When you go to rom manager and choose manual flash overide from hitting the menu button you will get the unsupported recovery, DON'T WORRY about it and hit ok. Then another popup will come up and choose 3.x and it will work.
Sent From My KickAss ATT SGS2 SPORTING CM7

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Anyone know how to downgrade CWM recovery?

So I upgraded to clockworkmod recovery version 3.0.0.5 to try out the beta version of Cyanogenmod 7.
Anyway, it's waaay too buggy for me at the moment (random battery drainage and restarts) and I'd like to go to a different custom rom.
The problem I'm having is that clockworkmod versions > 3 apparently will only install ROMs that were compiled with Edify scripting... which appears to be just about none of the ROMs I'm interested in at the moment.
So I've tried downgrading through the ROM manager and through running flash_image on the phone's terminal several times - always landing me back in the orange coloured CWM v3.0.0.5.
So my question is; how would I get back to the older green coloured version of the recovery?
I've searched a couple of hours on the internet now, but have found almost nothing relating to the Samsung Galaxy Captivate.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Just flash back to stock. Reroot if u need to then use rom manager to flash it
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Ownaginatious said:
So I upgraded to clockworkmod recovery version 3.0.0.5 to try out the beta version of Cyanogenmod 7.
Anyway, it's waaay too buggy for me at the moment (random battery drainage and restarts) and I'd like to go to a different custom rom.
The problem I'm having is that clockworkmod versions > 3 apparently will only install ROMs that were compiled with Edify scripting... which appears to be just about none of the ROMs I'm interested in at the moment.
So I've tried downgrading through the ROM manager and through running flash_image on the phone's terminal several times - always landing me back in the orange coloured CWM v3.0.0.5.
So my question is; how would I get back to the older green coloured version of the recovery?
I've searched a couple of hours on the internet now, but have found almost nothing relating to the Samsung Galaxy Captivate.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Coming from CM7 you will have to return to stock before you can flash any other roms anyway. Its in the CM7 FAQ.
Ownaginatious said:
Anyway, it's waaay too buggy for me at the moment (random battery drainage and restarts) and I'd like to go to a different custom rom.
Thanks!
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Ok I see that you have only 2 posts so I am going to spell this out nicely.
1: Flash back to stock always when changing roms
2: Root the phone then load rom manager and install clockwork mod
3: That puts an update.zip on your internal sd card. Copy that to your computer in a safe directory. I put mine where I store my roms
4: Reboot your phone to recovery and install upadate.zip. Reboot to recovery and if CWM doesn't load install update.zip again and it will reboot to CWM the second time.
5: Then when you want to flash a rom flash back to stock then copy that update.zip to the phone copy the rom to the phone then reboot to recovery. If it doesn't reboot to CWM then install update.zip and it will reboot to CWM. Then you can install your rom.
MAKE SURE YOU FLASH BACK TO STOCK BEFORE ATTEMPTING A NEW ROM INSTALL.
zelendel said:
Coming from CM7 you will have to return to stock before you can flash any other roms anyway. Its in the CM7 FAQ.
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and check repartition when flashing according to the CM7 faq
zelendel said:
Coming from CM7 you will have to return to stock before you can flash any other roms anyway. Its in the CM7 FAQ.
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Why would anyone read the faq...
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Sarcoid said:
and check repartition when flashing according to the CM7 faq
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One click does it automatically.
Sent from my CM7 powered captivate

is there a odin similiar software flash for g2x

When flashes go wrong things can get bad.with the vibrant I just odined to stock...through download load. Will we get something similiar for the greatest smartphone ever LG g2x
Luthien1 said:
When flashes go wrong things can get bad.with the vibrant I just odined to stock...through download load. Will we get something similiar for the greatest smartphone ever LG g2x
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NV Flash
its not the same. odin was a backup in case you couldnt even get into recovery, so there was download mode as a failsafe....which was through odin.. there has to be something like this available... anyone know.. or are we sol if we mess up bad
Im wondering this as well...my friend flashed a rom on the G2x and the wifi is broken. Rom manager won't flash into recovery. Used my Sim card which has internet but the phone won't recognize the internet. Tried the power+ volume buttons on boot up but nothing happens. Any idea on how to get back to stock? Rom is eagle's blood
You would need to flash CWM through NVflash
ROM manager will not flash CWM, it looks like it did but is actually a fake flash. That's why you need to do it through nv flash.
Sent From My G2x EB 1.07
Yes. You flash back to stock with the KDZ file and the KD flasher program.
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downloaded nvflash and drivers, have usb debug mode on but when i do anything on nvflash it says no usb connected?
nvm got everything done thanks a lot!
I believe that there's the program used to flash KDZ files, I guess that could restore EVERYTHING back to stock.
moshe22 said:
You would need to flash CWM through NVflash
ROM manager will not flash CWM, it looks like it did but is actually a fake flash. That's why you need to do it through nv flash.
Sent From My G2x EB 1.07
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Koush and Cyanogen said ROM Manager is not doing a fake flash. After flashing the rom you have to immediately boot into recovery using rom manager. It them flashes the new recovery right after boot. The recovery partition is not available when the phone is in normal mode. If you don't do an immediate boot into recovery through ROM Manager then the recovery is not properly flashed. If you have updated to GB then the first time you must do the NVFlash method as there is no way to root the phone any other way at this time.
jboxer said:
Koush and Cyanogen said ROM Manager is not doing a fake flash. After flashing the rom you have to immediately boot into recovery using rom manager. It them flashes the new recovery right after boot. The recovery partition is not available when the phone is in normal mode. If you don't do an immediate boot into recovery through ROM Manager then the recovery is not properly flashed. If you have updated to GB then the first time you must do the NVFlash method as there is no way to root the phone any other way at this time.
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It is fake in the sense that no matter what you do it isn't on the actual recovery partition and if the phone goes to hell in a handbasket then you have to flash one through NVFLASH anyways. Koush just happens to have a vested interest in people using Rom Manager.
Yes, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ROM MANAGER. Seriously, you're just asking for trouble.
I use rom manager all the time. It works great for downloading and flashing roms on the fly... but just NVFlash first.
NVFlash takes like 3.5 seconds and your done. Nandroid backup and your good.
Then either download Rom manager or manually download and copy it to your SD card. Very very simple. Easiest phone ever to get going. You don't even need to worry about rooting first.
You'll gain root after flashing s custom rom. MIUI is my choice right now. CM7 is having problems after they merged the LG GB source.
MIUI 8.19 is found in the rom forums. Weapon is also nice but lacks some extras I'm used to.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI Love
Asus TF - Custom 3.2

need help with getting cm7 from kk4

Have a friend with the kk4 rom which is 2.3.5 . He wants cm7 but the instructions are vague, when he loads up rom manager it doesn't show captivate mtd but only shows the regular galaxy s i900 . What should I do from here ?
ROM manager really needs to die a horrible death and be erased from public memory.
Flash a custom kk4 kernel with Odin that has cwm built into it. Then flash cm7 from there.
No need to even root the damn thing let alone (attempt to) use crappy ROM manager that doesn't work on galaxy devices running over Android 2.1
studacris said:
ROM manager really needs to die a horrible death and be erased from public memory.
Flash a custom kk4 kernel with Odin that has cwm built into it. Then flash cm7 from there.
No need to even root the damn thing let alone (attempt to) use crappy ROM manager that doesn't work on galaxy devices running over Android 2.1
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did the odin of the kernel samurai and it did its thing and when I reboot to get to recovery doesn't work now I can't even get into the rom
coldconfession13 said:
did the odin of the kernel samurai and it did its thing and when I reboot to get to recovery doesn't work now I can't even get into the rom
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You may need to flash CM7 twice - A lot of times, the first flash just sets up the MTD file scenario, giving you the CWM you need. The second flash should finish installing it.
Yank battery and replace...hold Vol up Vol down and power til you see the boot screen and let go.
The button combos should work.
got it to work now just trying to load the gapps which seems to not be installing and for some reason it won't recognize the gapps arg this is the weirdest thing.
Just to clarify, if I'm on stock KK4 I can just flash a KK4 ROM with CWM and then CM7? I don't need to be on Froyo, as the CM wiki says?
ArttG12 said:
Just to clarify, if I'm on stock KK4 I can just flash a KK4 ROM with CWM and then CM7? I don't need to be on Froyo, as the CM wiki says?
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Yes, you can
I need help installing gapps for some reason its not installing it after I load it into cwr . The latest gapps in cwr says its installing 2.3 5 if that means anything
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coldconfession13 said:
I need help installing gapps for some reason its not installing it after I load it into cwr . The latest gapps in cwr says its installing 2.3 5 if that means anything
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What is the filename of the zip you are trying to install for gapps?
When you say it isn't installing, does it say it completed and nothing happens, or is it failing? If it's failing, does it give you an error?
apbthe3 said:
What is the filename of the zip you are trying to install for gapps?
When you say it isn't installing, does it say it completed and nothing happens, or is it failing? If it's failing, does it give you an error?
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gapps-gb-20110828-signed
it says completed but nothing shows up in the rom
coldconfession13 said:
gapps-gb-20110828-signed
it says completed but nothing shows up in the rom
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Forgive me if you already know this, but it only installs apps that can't be downloaded from the market. If you have the market, it worked and you just have to download the rest of them. If you don't have the market, it definitely didn't work and, short of flashing back to stock and trying again, I don't have any other suggestions to troubleshoot it, unfortunately.
gapps-gb-20110930-237-signed
flashing that one fixed my problems thanks guys for helping

Twrp boot loop

This happened before but I can't remember how I fixed it.
1. Flashed TWRP (over codename if that helps)
2. it bootlooped back to recovery instead of starting the system
3. tried flashing another rom/ didn't work
4. finished season 2 of the walking dead
5. reflashed TWRP didn't help (TWRP flashing failed even tho it was the same file I used to get TWRP in the first place)
6. Took the battery out but that didn't help either
I really don't want to odin or use one click any ideas??
lonoguge said:
This happened before but I can't remember how I fixed it.
1. Flashed TWRP (over codename if that helps)
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Where did you get twrp?
lonoguge said:
2. it bootlooped back to recovery instead of starting the system
3. tried flashing another rom/ didn't work
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What is "another rom"?
lonoguge said:
4. finished season 2 of the walking dead
5. reflashed TWRP didn't help (TWRP flashing failed even tho it was the same file I used to get TWRP in the first place)
6. Took the battery out but that didn't help either
I really don't want to odin or use one click any ideas??
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Meh, lets start with the first two...
To stop the reboot to recovery, you must flash eollie's oneclick with bootloaders (so flash it twice, second time flash bootloaders) and go back to mtd.
bhundven said:
Where did you get twrp?
What is "another rom"?
Meh, lets start with the first two...
To stop the reboot to recovery, you must flash eollie's oneclick with bootloaders (so flash it twice, second time flash bootloaders) and go back to mtd.
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I got it from what I thought was the official XDA TWRP thread but I'm not sure if it was official or not
at first I tried reinstalling codename but now I'm trying Beam (Tuk edition) and it seems to be working
TWRP Major Boot Loop
hey guys, im new here and i desperately need help with my phone!
the other day i was flashing a rom on my samsung galaxy s 4g. Things were turning out fine, until i had some complications on my phone.. so, i removed the rom. when i rebooted my phone, it went directly into the team win recovery project boot loop and every time i try to reboot my phone, it goes into the twrp. I also can't wipe anything and i can't delete anything! Does anybody know how I can solve this or is my phone basically bricked
more details would be helpful..
As in what rom, or what kernel.... etc... and make sure you have the corret phone.
Same problem with t959p
Looks like I'm not alone.......here's my story
the other day I wanted to switch from a stock rom to a custom, so I flashed redux 1.3 which was actually a froyo rom, and it started draining my batt like crazy so I flashed another rom on top of the froyo rom not realizing what I was doing and somehow messed it up cuz now it will only boot into recovery.
Now just to be clear I know this was my fault, I know I should have odin'd back to stock first, but I wasn't thinking at the time.....Ohh and just so you know I've flashed this sucker hundreds of times and was always able to get out of any mess I got in.
So here is the situation as it stands now, 3 button combo to enter download does not work. I can only get it into download with the jig I made. the problem is even in download mode none of my pc's will detect the device as a Samsung composite device, so odin will not see it. I've installed every possible 32 n 64 bit driver I could find including reinstalling kies. Kies wont even see it. I've tried flashing a few roms that I know worked and still it just boots into recovery. Now one thing I'll tell you is that depending on which rom I flash I can get recovery to switch from cwm to twrp. right now I left it with cwm 6.x.
what I need is a cwm flashable stock telus t959p rom complete with bootloaders or at the very least a cwm flashable zip file containing the bootloaders to see if I can recover the phone.
ohh and if your thinking about telling me to google search for the answer then don't bother.......I've spent the last 4 days reading posts and going to different websites and repositories trying to find something that would help me and so far nothing has.
the only thing that might work as a last resort is pushing the bootloaders as per one of raver's or whitehawks posts but it's a little more complicated for me as I would have to set up a laptop with Linux as I don't think i'll be able to pull it off with any of my windows pc's, win7 and win 8 only.
so if anyone has the files I need or can make them please let me know....or if you think you have another solution I could try i'm all ears err eyes.
thanks
Jedi
Have you tried heimdall one-clicks? Maybe it's showing up as gadget or something like that. I've had luck using zadig and heimdall to bring it back from the brink of death.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498
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Woops replied to the wrong thread .
Nothing to see here, move along
Would like to revive a slightly dead thread.
I upgraded to a Galaxy S3 and no longer use my SGS4G for daily use. I had AOKP and disliked it, FC's and didn't like the feel. I have been trying to install a new rom ( old rom, VH Black Ed. ). Every time It loads into TWRP I have the ability to select the zip, install, it says complete, but reboots right back to TWRP menu. I've tried flashing CWM and it will install, flash the rom, reboot, and right back to this TWRP B.S... what am I doing wrong? I want to continue to use this SGS4g for music and internet duties.
How can I install CWM and have it stay even after a reboot? This TWRP is starting to me off
Did you happen to one click to stock before you went ham at the recovery?
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Trying To Put On a New ROM, Having The Worst Time

My old phone got lost so I am using my Infuse again. I decided to update it since it is still on the old version from when it first came out. I was trying forever to update through the kies software until I realized I rooted it and so this won't work. So then I found out there are roms for way better versions anyways. So I found the Cyanfox rom and I wanted to do that, but I needed to first upgrade to cm9 so I went and downloaded the cm9 file and got the clockworkrecovery, and I installed it.
Now my phone will not turn on, it sits as samsung screen. And if you try to go to recovery it is just a messed up screen with all different colors as if the screen was broken. So now my only option to bea ble to install anything on it is through odin. I can get to download mode fine.
But this damn odin software will not detect my phone for the life of me. It literally will not work. I don't understand. I have spent hours upon hours on this between the past few days. I just want to update my damn phone.
Now I have to leave for work in 30 minutes and my phone doesn't work. This is just great.
How did you install CWM?
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Well I tried clockworkmod through the rom manager app, but I was running the android recovery 3e and it said I needed a modified version of that to be able to install 3e. So I replaced the recovery file with the one I was given, and then I manually installed cwm by naming it update.zip and running it on the recovery
The only problem was that every time I wanted to use cwm, it would go back to android recovery 3e, and I would have to click install again to get it to go into cwm.
Either way, it doesn't work anymore and I just need the damn thing to connect to Odin so I can flash it back.
Are you using a desktop or laptop? If desktop, are you using the USB ports in the back? If laptop, have you tried different USB ports? Maybe try a different computer? I've heard that USB 3.0 doesn't play nicely with ODIN so it's good to find some 2.0 connections. What Windows version? I've heard that Win8 can cause problems. Could also try Heimdall instead of Odin.
Unless I think of anything else, is the cable in good working order (recent successful file transfer)?
Alright. I got things working somewhat. I had to use different drivers for each program for it to be able to detect it. I don't know, its annoying as hell, but it worked when I went back and forth between drivers.
Anyways, I got my device restored. But the whole point of this was that I was trying to get to the KitKat rom(Cyanfox). I am still quite a few steps away from that. I am actually further away than when I started,
This is what originally happened: I had my device rooted(from when I last used it, 1-2 years ago) and had the 3e recovery. So I found out I needed a modified 3e so I could install Clockworkmod. Got that, all was well, and the thing basically got bricked when I went to update to a new rom. It wasn't the kitkat rom, but a CM9 rom that I needed to go to first so that I could then update to kitkat.
Now I got it unbricked, and I updated it using kies. So now I am on gingerbread. So then I rooted it again. So now I have the 3e recovery again, the only problem is when I go to system/bin/ there is no file called recovery, and I can put one there but it does not affect the recovery, it still looks for signed files, meaning I cannot install Clockworkmod.
Not sure what to do...
Seems everyone follows this process (looks like you already did step one) now....
1. Either use Odin or Heimdall One-Click. Follow instruction on how to do it.
2. While phone running install sgs kernel flasher from Market/Google Play.
2a. Copy/transfer Synthesis GB Kernel to your Internal SD card.
2b. Start up sgs kernel flasher and choose it from your Internal SD card. Phone will auto-reboot after done flashing.
2c. Wait a bit while your phone convert to new partition format and activate lagfix. Your CWM recovery version should be 2.5.1.3
3. Reboot phone into CWM Recovery and DISABLE vodoo lagfix and /system lagfix. Reboot once done. Phone will convert partition to old format. If you don't turn the lagfix off the phone will hang at Samsung logo when you install new rom.
4. Prepare your flavor rom/gapp for installation by copying them to your Internal SD card.
4a. Go into CWM Recovery mode and install the rom. You will need to do this twice since the 1st time was just a warning about partition format being different.
4b. Reboot once done. You will need to REMOVE the battery to power down the booting process and put it back in.
4c. Go into the New CWM Recovery and install the rom again since the previous attempt only install the new CWM Recovery.
5. Install Gapp.
6. a. Wipe: Cache / Factory Reset <--- Probably don't need it since it's new install from stock unless you installed stuff. Just to be safe.
b. Wipe: Cache Partition
c. Wipe: Dalvik Cache
7. Reboot
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I never tried step two myself, as I found a flashable download for ODIN that did this for me. But mine is a Rogers phone (not AT&T) so that would not work for you. Hope this helps.
Thanks you so much man. I know that is just copy/paste but I didn't see it, and it works. I was looking in Cyanfox thread, never looked at the Beanstalk thread.
Anyways I am in the process of doing this and it seems like it will work. Appreciate all your help!
Edit: Boom. Worked like a charm. Thanks so much. I am very happy now The funny thing is, half the reason I wanted this is cause everyone was group messaging, and I didn't have that capability anymore when I lost my phone(I was on such an old version). Again thanks so much.

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