Why you should take rumors with a grain of salt. - Captivate General

Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.

veive said:
Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
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I thought there was a different phone that was labeled the Nexus S?
It definitely looked different from the Giorgio Armani Cappy.

veive said:
Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
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I don't think Eric Schmidt reads the forums on XDA so maybe you should tell him:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/15/eric-schmidt-shows-off-a-nexus-s-at-the-web-2-0-summit/

Google's CEO just showed the Nexus S, which is essentially the Nexus 1's replacement. Everyone is pretty positive that it is Samsung produced.

ianwood said:
I don't think Eric Schmidt reads the forums on XDA so maybe you should tell him:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/15/eric-schmidt-shows-off-a-nexus-s-at-the-web-2-0-summit/
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Now that was a good reply. You made me laugh out loud on that one!

OP I get what you are saying, but you picked a terrible example. The Giorgio Armani phone is just a rebranded captivate, while the Nexus S is a "unannounced phone" which has leaked all over the place. Now, the Galaxy 2 is a real rumor mill phone.

...nevermind yall already covered it...

veive said:
Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
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@ point 2) I doubt google really intended to sell millions of the phone, it would be stupid as all the other big names, Moto, Sammy, HTC proper would leave android as google would have an advantage.
The Nexus One was used to encourage other manufacturers to use:
- Faster processors (Snapdragon, Hummingbird, OMAP ...tick)
- Better Screens (AMOLED, SAMOLED, SLCD, WVGA ... tick)
- better design and optimisation (hmm....tick)
- Faster updates to the latest OS version (now thats the one I think didnt really come through)
Case in point, simply look at the phones preceding N1 (Hero, G1, mytouch ....pretty average phones...no offence) and post N1 (Droid X, Droid Inc, Desire, SGS)
I think thats a quite convincing success.
Oh and also to try and convince the US customer to buy outright...that didnt work either as Nokia can relate to.
Overall, the Nexus One was a success and didnt cannibalize android phone variety .... I'm no Google fanboy but it ****s me to tears when people use the N1 to say android sucks or the N1 failed ...... end rant.
The Nexus S was being touted by Eric Schmidt recently os yeah it exists....though I really dont see yet what google are trying to push harware manufacturers towards....I imagine its more a combination of hardware to run specific software e.g. credit card functionality, some sort of front camera related software etc

I actually watched the video of Eric Schmidt with the nexus s, when the interviewer mentioned that Schmidt said there would be no nexus 2, he responded by saying "yes, I said there would be no nexus TWO" (heavy emphasis on the word two) so yes, between this and how much this phone has been leaked, we can pretty much confirm it. Let's just hope it has at&t 3g like the vibrant
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Nexus S gets announced. Google CEO is using a phone that looks EXACTLY like the pre-renders of the Nexus S and then shows off the phone.
Coincidence? I think not.

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What comes after the nexus one?

I moving into android development and have been trying to figure out what to buy as my "development phone". I know the nexus one is still available to developers, but it's almost a year old.
As I understand it one of the advantages of the nexus one is that you are able to run a version of android unmolested by manufactures and carriers. It also receives any and all android update first.
Once it goes away what phone is going to replace it? What phone will run a pure version of android, and be in line for the first updates?
It seems the nexus one is approaching the end of this life cycle. If you were a new developer and on the limited budget (and which of us isn't) what phone would you buy right now for development purposes?
Thanks!
Nexus Two is being developed by Samsung and is supposed to be out before the end of the year.
yea samsung is having a press event on the 8th of this month. supposedly they are gonna announce a nexus 2 or something. so time will tell
hp://www.engadget.com/2010/10/28/nexus-two-does-or-doesnt-exist-is-or-isnt-being-released/
Thanks for the info!
Rumors are flying on the N2...Nov 8th should clear up some of them.
Will the Nexus 2 be similar to the Galaxy S series?
This is interesting. I think the Nexus Two still might come out of the HTC corner.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_denies_nexus_s_rumors_preps_continuum_for_8_november-news-2046.php
lilhaiti said:
This is interesting. I think the Nexus Two still might come out of the HTC corner.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_denies_nexus_s_rumors_preps_continuum_for_8_november-news-2046.php
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Makes sense. Doesn't HTC build more Android phones than anyone else? Plus I was a little suspicious about the SAMOLED screen on the N2. If there is a shortage as claimed, I can't see why would Samsung put it on a "non-Samsung" branded phone?
It looks like samsung is making the nexus two, and it's going to be delayed. See link below. In short samsung ran across a major hardware issue during dog food testing. So, we know it's coming from samsung, we just don't know when
http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/05/go...ed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)
Pretty sure there gonna call it Nexus S, like LG w/ Optimus One, and all the other Optimus phones, besides Samsung's phones arent the best, and if you really want a phone for just development the original droid can be found for around $200 on ebay, its easy to root and can be easily overclocked to 800Mhz, which I know isn't as amazing but it'll definitely get you the most bang for your buck. (just searched for it on ebay theres one thats about to end in a minute going for $150 so you can probably find for cheaper).
only thinq i hope its that htc make it, cus i dnt trust samsung. all the SGS are crap. they are made of plastic and lagg like crazy lol. hope the famous nexus two keeps the htc quality standarts.
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Nexus S

Found this on BGR. It's an image of the Nexus S (I assume that's the Nexus 2). The only thing that makes the word fake come to mind is that google said there wouldn't be another Nexus (1) and also that this Nexus S is made by... Samsung... WTF.
I'm wondering what everyone else's take is on this. Real or fake?
It is real Engadget(dot)com has several screenshots of the phone and there is even a video that has Eric Schmidt using it.
Only thing I know for certain is that its a Galaxy S type form factor with a front-facing camera with stock Gingerbread. There is also a rumor that the phone isn't a "4G" phone (meaning it only supports a downlink of 7.2mbps instead of 14.4mbps). More than likely the phone will release before the holiday season.
Well if that's the case then it's no successor of the Nexus. With those specs and being made by Samsung it's actually a downgrade. I have nothing against them btw, #1 when it comes to anything dealing with displays and screens. Their phones are just laggy from what I've read, and there's very little support from them as far as updates and such.
I played with a Captivate and it was awesome but that's coming from a Mytouch Slide. To go from a Nexus 1 to a Captivate I'm sure it's a totally different impression.
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Well if that's the case then it's no successor of the Nexus. With those specs and being made by Samsung it's actually a downgrade. I have nothing against them btw, #1 when it comes to anything dealing with displays and screens. Their phones are just laggy from what I've read, and there's very little support from them as far as updates and such.
I played with a Captivate and it was awesome but that's coming from a Mytouch Slide. To go from a Nexus 1 to a Captivate I'm sure it's a totally different impression.
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I wouldn't be too quick on marking it a downgrade, the leaked info states that it is powered by a dual-core Orion, it is no your ordinary Galaxy S.
And given that it might be a google phone re-duex the updates will be coming directly from google

Google teaming with samsung - fail?

I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?
I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.
Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.
I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
AntonJart said:
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."
z33dev33l said:
Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen
The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.
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u mad
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
AntonJart said:
Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.
Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"
Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
or
Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.
I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!
put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win
I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.

Nexus S envy?

Why does the Nexus S seem to create such strong opinions that people feel the need to come on here and put it down and bore the pants off us about dual *yawn* core and the latest handsets? Is it misplaced inadequacy or are Nexus S really that bad?
First off, the Nexus S is a great device. I think the polarization factor comes from two directions, first is envy. The second was this vision that the Nexus device should be this flawless god of phones. It is not, it is a dev phone, a playground for people to experiment with, and most people don't really get that.
its bassically a Googles test rabbit or rat.
I haven't seen any negative topics about the Nexus S for about a month now. Maybe about certain aspects of Gingerbread, but that's it. You should have been here when it was first released. Man, it was annoying. As Kah-Neth said, some people think a Nexus S phone is the god of all phones or have to set a new standard for other manufacturers to follow.
IMO, NFC is going to be a standard which will be implemented in other phones soon enough. New processors such as dual cores isn't much of thing to set a standard for since a 1 ghz single core processor is good enough.
You missed the "Nexus S shines against the...." thread. Apparently there are people out there who dont even own an NS and whose sole purpose for posting on this board is to call us fanboys because we dare discuss on a NS board how the NS is a better device than these "superior" DC phones like the Atrix.
Seems to me that envy must play a part...if it was not out of envy for a high end, latest Google running frankly awesome device like a Nexus, certain people would be on the HTC wildfire forums or something droning on about how low end that device is (no disrespect to wildfire btw).
Seriously though, instead of being jealous, just save your pennies up and buy a second hand nexus S
Honestly I dont see why people envy this phone. I would have been content with keeping my g2, I feel like support between the g2 os and gingerbread is equal because we dont have alot of support as far as this os. This is why I'm currently in the move of trading for a iphone 4 they have constant updates and support whereas we are still waiting for support from skype who keeps backing out as well as other things that should be mandatory with the phones launch. When people see the phone I have they are more excited than me. I guess cause I'm rom'd out and dont have anything else to do with the phone. Who knows.
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Not only is there envy -- theres pomposity -- check this out from an unnamed nexus s owner i found whining somewhere off XDA
"I purchased a Nexus S under the assumption that Google would not be releasing a new version until a new iteration of Android was released. Now, with the rumors mounting that this may not be the case what if anything will be Google's response to users who already purchased a Nexus S? In similar cases, Apple has consistently offered refunds to consumers, will Google follow suit or will you choose instead to alienate some of your most loyal user base? I can honestly say that if the latter is true then I will be reconsidering continuing my support of the Android platform."
The balls on this dude... "if I cant have you... nobody else can"
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"I purchased a Nexus S under the assumption that ..."
The balls on this dude... "if I cant have you... nobody else can"
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Naaah, just stupidity, the stupidity of making unwarranted assumptions.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Assume
androidcues said:
Not only is there envy -- theres pomposity -- check this out from an unnamed nexus s owner i found whining somewhere off XDA
"I purchased a Nexus S under the assumption that Google would not be releasing a new version until a new iteration of Android was released. Now, with the rumors mounting that this may not be the case what if anything will be Google's response to users who already purchased a Nexus S? In similar cases, Apple has consistently offered refunds to consumers, will Google follow suit or will you choose instead to alienate some of your most loyal user base? I can honestly say that if the latter is true then I will be reconsidering continuing my support of the Android platform."
The balls on this dude... "if I cant have you... nobody else can"
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Yes that is my question. Where did I say anything about not wanting other people to have it? If that bothered me why not complain when the at&t version passed through the FCC. Nor did I ever say that Google should do something for me personally. I've owned my phone for over a month. I don't expect them to cut me a check. I do expect them to do something for the people who buy it close to the announcement. So now expecting morality from a company whose motto is "don't be evil" is pompous or ballsy?
Heck I don't expect them to do anything at all. Period. I posted that question to let Google know I was frustrated with this situation. If either of us is being pompous or ballsy it is you for making some pretty bold assumptions about what I meant.
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The answer is simple: expectations.
People expected very much from the Nexus S. It is a phone from Google after all. When the first rumors came, the Nexus S was going to be the first phone with dual-core, it would have Android 3.0, and it would be just awesome. When the Nexus S turned about to be something completely different, the crowd was dissapointed.
In that regard they were right. The Nexus S isn't very 'new' in terms of hardware. But as a smartphone it is very well build, and I'm not talking about the build quality. And that is what people seem to forget.
Also, the crowd showed the same reaction when the Nexus One was released. It wasn't really that special. But when the Nexus S was released, they were al saying: the Nexus One is so much better!
I don't know why everyone had that kind of expectations. Probably because it is a Google phone, and Google = Android. So it has to be good. Or something. But Google brought out a solid, unique phone, and I thank them for that.
the ns is fine for me. battery life is 100 times better than my vibrant, have flash support, ffc, quick updates, looks nice, fast. i could care less about dual core because i don't play games on my phone. anyway that's just my opinion.
and yeah, haters gonna hate. screw em.
rocketragz said:
the ns is fine for me. battery life is 100 times better than my vibrant, have flash support, ffc, quick updates, looks nice, fast. i could care less about dual core because i don't play games on my phone. anyway that's just my opinion.
and yeah, haters gonna hate. screw em.
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I don't know why you would even want a dual-core phone if you don't play games. I do play games, but only games like Angry Birds, and the new released Chalk Ball! Simple games, yet very good looking and very fun to play!
Androyed said:
I don't know why you would even want a dual-core phone if you don't play games. I do play games, but only games like Angry Birds, and the new released Chalk Ball! Simple games, yet very good looking and very fun to play!
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Androyed you make me laugh, you should change your name to anti dual core Droid, lol....
NS rules and that's no lie
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
Androyed you make me laugh, you should change your name to anti dual core Droid, lol....
NS rules and that's no lie
JD
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I'm not against dual-core! Certainly not. I think you misunderstood me. What I'm trying to say is that the 1Ghz processor in the Nexus S makes everything smooth: from swiping through homescreens to playing Angry Birds. So what can dual-core do for you then? Play better games!
Seriously, it is just the same as with computers. Only reason they get better is because of games. I've said that like a hundred times, but it is the truth.
I'm not against dual-core, I just think it's funny everyone always wants the latest hardware, even when the old hardware is still running fine!
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Is it misplaced inadequacy or are Nexus S really that bad?
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Its just trolling. Every single phone has some of it for a few months (exp: Atrix forums got trolled by Inspire users).
What made the Nexus S particularly a good target for trolls was that fact the Nexus One set a standard for Android handsets for an entire year. Google went to HTC and said "We want the best and brand new android phone hardware to push the industry and set a standard for the year to come"
Did Google do this same thing of asking for the best hardware for the Nexus S to set a standard for an entire year? Unfortunately no. Still a great niche phone for people wanting stock android but not a game changer by any means like the original Nexus.
Thats why people were pissed and made fun of the phone. They were looking at what it could have been and got mad once they saw the failed potential of the Nexus line so they decided to take out their frustrations on the forum by trolling...
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You missed the "Nexus S shines against the...." thread. Apparently there are people out there who dont even own an NS and whose sole purpose for posting on this board is to call us fanboys because we dare discuss on a NS board how the NS is a better device than these "superior" DC phones like the Atrix.
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Being an epic owner I'm here because I firmly believe the NS is superior to all other Nexus, HTC Snapdragon, or SGS phones....
If this Sprint Nexus S 4g comes true I'm dropping my epic in a heartbeat
Mytouch 4G is the iPhone4 executioner.
Why?
Rooted. Iced glaciar or cm
Amazing Good battery
1.7 ghz oclocking easily done with iced glacier.
768mb RAM.
Good beautiful display and screen size.
Solid build.
HTC.
Just saying
4G T-Mobile
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G2 is still my favorite. Modded battery SD card cynaogen has one.
Nexus s is sleek. Fast processor amazing screen . Im not jealous. I love Android.
Nexus S 5stars
G2 5stars
MT4G 5stars
Iphone 3/4 good phone for sheeple. Or thosr not nerdy or moms.
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xandermpls said:
Mytouch 4G is the iPhone4 executioner.
Why?
Rooted. Iced glaciar or cm
Amazing Good battery
1.7 ghz oclocking easily done with iced glacier.
768mb RAM.
Good beautiful display and screen size.
Solid build.
HTC.
Just saying
4G T-Mobile
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I agree, the MT4G is a very nice phone. I actually had one for a few weeks before switching to the Nexus S (never looked back), gave the MyTouch 4G to my mom -- she loves it to death.
I hated the face of the phone. Very ugly to me.

Just wanna share some news about HTC

Well seems like there's still hope for HTC, according to CNET. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57482049-94/why-its-not-doom-and-gloom-for-htc-yet/
And look at this: "According to a survey taken by Sanford Bernstein, 42 percent of HTC customers select the brand for the quality and intuitiveness of its user experience, vs. 32 percent for Samsung, an indication of positive awareness of HTC's differentiated software."
Sense is a STRONG selling point for HTC. So anyone who's been claiming that HTC will sell more if they get stock may be wrong.
But in the meantime http://www.zdnet.com/htc-bites-the-bullet-closes-south-korean-office-7000001779/
What do you guys think about HTC and their current woes? No need to be defensive. Just want to discuss and want people to voice their opinions in case some HTC employees lurk around and see this lol
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But in the meantime http://www.zdnet.com/htc-bites-the-bullet-closes-south-korean-office-7000001779/
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"In comparison, Korean vendors including Samsung, LG and Pantech have secured 90 percent of the market."
Why would they stay in a market where the home town teams control 90% of it? They also closed Brazil because the market for high-end phones their is weak. They got $150MM in cash by selling 1/2 their Beats investment back. These are signs of a company trying to re-focus its efforts. It's better to do fewer things well than 100 things marginally; especially when you're small(er). Like CNet said, there's room for a number three and it could easily be HTC if they get their act together.
Ok i just want to say one thing
HTC is no near as small or as weak financially as these stupid stupid tech articles make it sound
you really think they can afford combating with APPLE on a legal level if they were as tiny as everyone would like to believe?
or do you think they can afford so many innovations in the One Series like the ImageSense chip and the best screen on mobile device out there, if they were falling apart?
anyway if indeed google was blown away with the One X and the next Nexus will be an HTC, problems solved
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anyway if indeed google was blown away with the One X and the next Nexus will be an HTC, problems solved
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Just like the first nexus history does repeat itself...
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theDroidfanatic said:
Just like the first nexus history does repeat itself...
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i don't know if you meant positive or negative
the nexus one did indeed give HTC a major turbo boost
if you meant it bad well yes i actually don't understand what google found in samsung's build quality, my guess is cheaper cost or "volume"
we still don't know if the next nexus is HTC, with samsung selling like hotcakes, i don't know but we google approached them regarding the Nexus 7 and they refused to make a low cost tablet
I just wish that rumour about multiple Nexus devices is true. I want a Nexus phone but I dont want to get anything Samsung. -.-
And HTC srlsy needs to pull their sh** together w the QC and customer service. I look through all the threads about issues and I wonder why I still am attached to this company.
averygagaanroid said:
And HTC srlsy needs to pull their sh** together w the QC and customer service. I look through all the threads about issues and I wonder why I still am attached to this company.
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QC issues where there because HTC rushed the One X early, now they are mostly gone
HTC's one x launch was pretty much a complete train wreck.
This board and others were/still are littered with many many threads about 'problems'... This forum still is.
I love my OneX as I did my HD2 but from my point of view HTC need to get a grip as their were far too many problems at launch.
Nope I'm not about to jump ship to Samsung but I would certainly not buy another (groundbreaking) HTC phone so soon after launch again.
Plus if this phone doesnt end up with some reasonable way of acheiving root access I'll never buy another HTC device again.
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audioslim said:
HTC's one x launch was pretty much a complete train wreck.
This board and others were/still are littered with many many threads about 'problems'... This forum still is.
I love my OneX as I did my HD2 but from my point of view HTC need to get a grip as their were far too many problems at launch.
Nope I'm not about to jump ship to Samsung but I would certainly not buy another (groundbreaking) HTC phone so soon after launch again.
Plus if this phone doesnt end up with some reasonable way of acheiving root access I'll never buy another HTC device again.
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S-Off is coming don't worry
and i agree never buy a flagship on launch
but this is not related to HTC only mate
Barry shipped me an N7 to Lebanon and it was a one way ticket for me, i was holding my breath all this time, because the QC issues of the N7 a Google product, are actually double times the One X launch issues
go check the Nexus 7 boards and while at it go check the sg3 boards, you will forgive HTC a little better
The Xperia S had its share too
QC issues are disturbing and relates to all these devices nowadays, especially screen glue problems, think it has to do with the high volume and increasingly aggressive competition, has nothing to do with brands
i choose htc because unlocking is easy
samsung phones are complicated as f**k
odin , usb jig and shat like that
hamdir said:
S-Off is coming don't worry
and i agree never buy a flagship on launch
but this is not related to HTC only mate
Barry shipped me an N7 to Lebanon and it was a one way ticket for me, i was holding my breath all this time, because the QC issues of the N7 a Google product, are actually double times the One X launch issues
go check the Nexus 7 boards and while at it go check the sg3 boards, you will forgive HTC a little better
The Xperia S had its share too
QC issues are disturbing and relates to all these devices nowadays, especially screen glue problems, think it has to do with the high volume and increasingly aggressive competition, has nothing to do with brands
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All true i although just had a blind faith in htc wrongly. Still love my hox and dont have any issues now except ropey WiFi signal but on the qa side htc need to improve
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I just want to say I'm a huge fan of HTC for years (they never let me down before, they have very good service!)
and I do love my HTC One X. :laugh::good:
No scratches, wifi problems, camera, battery, headphone problems, screen leak problems, orrrrrr.... 'whatever', my HTC One X rocks!
The small issues with software (multitasking, 3 dots, battery overheating) reported do not bother me at all, they are small and will be fixed with future updates.
Yesssss... I'm probably one of the 'very rare' lucky guys I know but I realy am. :victory:
I'm realy looking forward to Jelly Bean, it will have issues as well I'm sure about that but that's why we have HTC and XDA-Developers.
It will get fixed and updated.
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Ok i just want to say one thing
HTC is no near as small or as weak financially as these stupid stupid tech articles make it sound
you really think they can afford combating with APPLE on a legal level if they were as tiny as everyone would like to believe?
or do you think they can afford so many innovations in the One Series like the ImageSense chip and the best screen on mobile device out there, if they were falling apart?
anyway if indeed google was blown away with the One X and the next Nexus will be an HTC, problems solved
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HTC doesnt manufacturer those screens. I think they are just kinda similar to Apple in the sense that they basically just assemble phones from components supplied by other companies. The only things HTC can take pride in are Sense and the design.
hamdir said:
i don't know if you meant positive or negative
the nexus one did indeed give HTC a major turbo boost
if you meant it bad well yes i actually don't understand what google found in samsung's build quality, my guess is cheaper cost or "volume"
we still don't know if the next nexus is HTC, with samsung selling like hotcakes, i don't know but we google approached them regarding the Nexus 7 and they refused to make a low cost tablet
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It's very likely Google will release multiple Nexus devices because in that case they will be able to let Motorola make Nexus phones w/out looking like they're being biased. But if it's only one version it's very likely that Samsung will get it again since Samsung is a major supplier of many components for smartphone. Imagine the Nexus phones uses the Snapdragon s4 processor and Qualcomm cant meet supply it's gonna be a mess.
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HTC doesnt manufacturer those screens. I think they are just kinda similar to Apple in the sense that they basically just assemble phones from components supplied by other companies. The only things HTC can take pride in are Sense and the design.
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well they can pride themselves for customizing such an amazing amazing screen
nothing matches this screen
averygagaanroid said:
It's very likely Google will release multiple Nexus devices because in that case they will be able to let Motorola make Nexus phones w/out looking like they're being biased. But if it's only one version it's very likely that Samsung will get it again since Samsung is a major supplier of many components for smartphone. Imagine the Nexus phones uses the Snapdragon s4 processor and Qualcomm cant meet supply it's gonna be a mess.
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Google cares only for numbers. They don't care who will make the device as long as it's cheap and sells. Why did they went for the lower 7" tablet market? Because they can sell more units than 350$ 10" version. And in their case more units = more people for targeted ads. Though I admit I like the idea of having Motorola's Nexus (Motorola is maybe the only OEM that can match HTC in terms of build quality), I have the feeling that Google will get rid of Motorola long before that. The other part of the nexus story is marketing. And no Android OEM can match Samsung in that department. Many people still believe amoleds are superior to lcds. Like Apple made them believe that they invented smartphones, tablets, videocalling, touchscreen phones, etc. A lie that's repeated a thousand times becomes the truth. So at the end of the day if you want to have a cheap mediocre device with good marketing to make people believe it's great, the only OEM you can turn to is Samsung. Galaxy Nexus is the pure example of that. It has mediocre CPU, a pentile screen with messed up colors that looks like s#it, but it sells. Why? Because it's cheap and people believe Samsung can make good phones.
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Google cares only for numbers. They don't care who will make the device as long as it's cheap and sells. Why did they went for the lower 7" tablet market? Because they can sell more units than 350$ 10" version. And in their case more units = more people for targeted ads. Though I admit I like the idea of having Motorola's Nexus (Motorola is maybe the only OEM that can match HTC in terms of build quality), I have the feeling that Google will get rid of Motorola long before that. The other part of the nexus story is marketing. And no Android OEM can match Samsung in that department. Many people still believe amoleds are superior to lcds. Like Apple made them believe that they invented smartphones, tablets, videocalling, touchscreen phones, etc. A lie that's repeated a thousand times becomes the truth. So at the end of the day if you want to have a cheap mediocre device with good marketing to make people believe it's great, the only OEM you can turn to is Samsung. Galaxy Nexus is the pure example of that. It has mediocre CPU, a pentile screen with messed up colors that looks like s#it, but it sells. Why? Because it's cheap and people believe Samsung can make good phones.
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well said, thank you!
Is this thread sponsored by HTC?
I recently filled in a satisfaction survey and now they've tried to call me twice in two days.
Perhaps it was my mention of their illegal warranty policy?
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Oh, it could have also been the mention of their CEO's lies regarding opening up their phones.
f4flake said:
Is this thread sponsored by HTC?
I recently filled in a satisfaction survey and now they've tried to call me twice in two days.
Perhaps it was my mention of their illegal warranty policy?
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Oh, it could have also been the mention of their CEO's lies regarding opening up their phones.
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Take off your tin foil hat and answer the phone. Then you'll KNOW why they are calling you instead of making wild guesses on a thread clearly sponsored by HTC, the government and the Switzerland's navy.
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