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[Q] Inspire Successor

Just wondering if anyone knows of a reliable HTC rumor site that would have some info on the next HTC phone for AT&T. We AT&T subscribers got the gimpiest HTC phone of any of the carriers (Inspire). I am not switching to Verizon due to $$ no matter how much better their reception is. Thanks.

Will be another huge phone with a 900mAh battery
I don't really get it. It seems like every android handset manufacturer purposefully chooses to leave a certain basic function broken in their phones. HTC: small batteries, Samsung: Bad GPS, Motorola : Oh hey let's copy the iPhone's locked-ness. Why is it so #&&#*@*ing hard to make it right? These companies have been making phones for ages.
Oh, and Apple chooses to lock the iPhone's features and adds some minor thing every year. Its like all of these companies have banded together to just keep hanging that carrot in front of us with their crappy products.
I am just leaning towards selling the IP4 and getting a dumbphone for $10 and use it for calling. Smartphones be damned, was much happier before I picked one.

So you have the Inspire?

phonex1 said:
Will be another huge phone with a 900mAh battery
I don't really get it. It seems like every android handset manufacturer purposefully chooses to leave a certain basic function broken in their phones. HTC: small batteries, Samsung: Bad GPS, Motorola : Oh hey let's copy the iPhone's locked-ness. Why is it so #&&#*@*ing hard to make it right? These companies have been making phones for ages.
Oh, and Apple chooses to lock the iPhone's features and adds some minor thing every year. Its like all of these companies have banded together to just keep hanging that carrot in front of us with their crappy products.
I am just leaning towards selling the IP4 and getting a dumbphone for $10 and use it for calling. Smartphones be damned, was much happier before I picked one.
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Maybe get a rotary phone?
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plasticdarlow said:
Maybe get a rotary phone?
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Haha! Used to have one of those a while back. Though the flip phones were atleast an improvement over the rotary phone. You could go wireless and still not have to run to a power outlet etc every 5 hours
Though I am aware of the possibilities with these phones, manufacturers need to understand that a dead smartphone is useless. When higher capacity batteries are already present no need to be a scrooge about it

@phonex1
I share your frustration, even though mine is mainly just wit Apple. As far as I know, Apple has been much more naughty in the way they "intentionally" limited or withheld features in order to force customers to upgrade to newer phones. But, with other companies, in my observation, there have been more short-comings than actually intentional strategies.
With that said, I also don't think it is really logical for us to complain this way. I mean, that's how things work. Companies make products, however they see it for their own reasons, and we customers buy them "if we like them."
There's no rule that says companies must make products "for customers and the way customers want." Instead, it is our own responsibility to inform/educate ourselves and make smart choices. This is true for anything, not just phones. If you buy something, that is your choice. Saying they should have made it this way or that way is really not a sound arguement.
Nevertheless, I've done that a lot with Apple LOL. But, I try not to do that because I know it's not a good way to look at it.

Without us, the companies would be dead. We're more important to them than they are to us. We can "live" without smartphones. They can't "live" without our money. As the buyer, you do have a say. It's your money. True, if you don't like what they have to offer, don't buy it. But on the other hand, why not make everyone happy, buyer and seller, and make a phone with all the features not excluding one little thing for no good reason.

How exactly is the Inspire the "gimpiest" HTC phone? It's pretty much the best HTC phone out right now.

Gimpiest in the sense (No pun intended) that it does not have HDMI out, a kickstand, or a FF camera. Those three items are so basic IMO. Phones are supposed to get better. This is a step back from the EVO. Why in the world did HTC even bother? These three things might not be important to a lot of people, but they're borderline deal breakers for me.

Androidude said:
How exactly is the Inspire the "gimpiest" HTC phone? It's pretty much the best HTC phone out right now.
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The Inspire is just a dumbed down Evo. Sure it has more ram and a faster processor but it lacks a front facing cam, HDMI, and kick-stand. KICK-STAND!!!!!

blakew23 said:
Gimpiest in the sense (No pun intended) that it does not have HDMI out, a kickstand, or a FF camera. Those three items are so basic IMO.
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Those items are not that basic. Those are all fairly premium features. You have to realize that this phone is just a Desire HD that already existed months ago. I don't think it's a step back from the EVO; I would rather have better internal specs than gimmicks.

blakew23 said:
Why in the world did HTC even bother? These three things might not be important to a lot of people, but they're borderline deal breakers for me.
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Well hell, did you let HTC know?
Man, I bet they would have put those novelties on the phone if they had known you wouldn't buy it without them.

Really? All I was saying is I would've liked this features...

Well I'm looking forward to this so called rumored HTC Revolver headed to AT&T...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/htc-revolver-a-flagship-honeycomb-phone-for-atandt/
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blakew23 said:
Really? All I was saying is I would've liked this features...
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Well the features that you consider essential aren't there. It sounds like you want an EVO so why don't you get one?

Inspire gimped Evo really?
lets see...
Screen: Inspire
Speed: Inspire
Build Quality: Inspire
UI: Inspire
Camera: Push
Front facing Camera: Evo
As stated HDMI out is a gimmick, DNLA is the real deal
kick stand? thats just funny to mention, tacky and not useful
"Man I wish my xbox 360 had a kickstand!" DOGH!

goldentequila said:
@phonex1
I share your frustration, even though mine is mainly just wit Apple. As far as I know, Apple has been much more naughty in the way they "intentionally" limited or withheld features in order to force customers to upgrade to newer phones. But, with other companies, in my observation, there have been more short-comings than actually intentional strategies.
With that said, I also don't think it is really logical for us to complain this way. I mean, that's how things work. Companies make products, however they see it for their own reasons, and we customers buy them "if we like them."
There's no rule that says companies must make products "for customers and the way customers want." Instead, it is our own responsibility to inform/educate ourselves and make smart choices. This is true for anything, not just phones. If you buy something, that is your choice. Saying they should have made it this way or that way is really not a sound arguement.
Nevertheless, I've done that a lot with Apple LOL. But, I try not to do that because I know it's not a good way to look at it.
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Be damned with "not a good way to look at it". They are the suppliers and we are their demand and I for one am sick of them relying on the fact that lots of folks don't want to have to change carriers every time they need a new phone. I know there are plenty of folks out there that will do this, but the vast majority won't out of convenience. When you change carrier, you usually end up getting shortchanged in one area to gain in yet another and this is not an acceptable trade-off in my opinion. I prefer AT&T because their coverage in my area is excellent and I have no intention of switching carriers just so I can get a device with better battery life. And I agree with the OP on the fact that HTC needs to get on the ball with the battery shortfalls. There is no good reason in this day and age for that to be a problem.
Like it was said above, the carrot dangling is totally out of hand and they (carriers) need to supply the demand of their customers. The customers are their bread and butter by gosh!
That's the way I look at it, be it the right way or the wrong way.
By the way goldentequila, I do agree with you inasmuch that we as the customers do have the responsibility to do a little research and make smart choices, but sometimes those choices are all but non-existent and there usually ends up being a trade-off in one regard for a gain in another, even when you don't change carriers.
Just my .02 ..... HTR

jadeus0831 said:
Well I'm looking forward to this so called rumored HTC Revolver headed to AT&T...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/htc-revolver-a-flagship-honeycomb-phone-for-atandt/
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Nah, no kickstand.

Galaxy S2 returned, preordered Sensation

Hi!
I returned my Samsung Galaxy S2 back to the store and am now waiting for the HTC Sensation. While the Galaxy S2 is a nice phone, I really despise the TouchWiz. Even with ADW Launcher EX & WidgetLocker mitigating the terribleness of the interface Samsung has built, the stock apps still are very uncomfortable to use - especially e-mail, messaging and calendar are lacking. And most of their other attempts at apps aren't any better - dismal at best.
The back cover is unpleasant to remove which is peeving if you like to switch the battery to a fresh one (although spare batteries are not released till mid-june) or regularly move between different countries and therefore like to change SIMs (like I do).
I also would have preferred a capacitive home-button, instead of a physical switch.
Other bugs (which will probably soon be patched) are bothersome as well, like the 3G data connection regularly stalling - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097612
Specs-wise I think having a higher resolution screen will be a very nice addition, the lower amount of RAM & internal storage probably won't be all that noticeable. I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
Are any other Samsung Galaxy S2 expatriates lurking on this board? What were your Galaxy-experiences, why are you now waiting for the HTC Sensation instead?

you are in for a bashing.. but good luck

boostedb16b said:
you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.

BarryH_GEG said:
Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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i dont banter and i have added constructive info. and he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2. and please dont class me with epsix. he is on his own with that. anyway lets see how well this thread goes because i can see it getting ugly. thats all i was saying. some of you guys act so high and mighty that it sometimes get annoying

I returned my SGS2 as well and got Sensation instead.
Sound quality wasn't very good even with Poweramp.
I had a big hope that supercurio will come up with a solution as he did with original SGS, but here what he tweeted
supercurio François Simond
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@kalpik Thanks, appreciated! I start to know my way in Yamaha's driver now. And tend to believe its a non-fixable hardware issue.
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supercurio François Simond
Ok I explored about everything. Clocks, Master/Slave, Effects. I now believe Yamaha messed up by designing a defective DAC for Samsung.
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supercurio François Simond
Flawed, end of story. I'll still explore the external USB DAC option, but nothing related to the Yamaha #MC1N2 unless they fixed themselves
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supercurio François Simond @
@josejacas to my limited comprehension there is a flaw in an internal resampling/oversampling algorithm. Cannot be modified via this driver.
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supercurio François Simond
Of course you need to relativize what I say here. #GalaxySII sound is probably better than most other Android phones. But not iPhone or SGS
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I've lost my hope about GS2 will ever be a good music player like SGS.
Next Thing
I fully charged my SGS2 and turned on Google latitude (As i was travailing), my phone was in the belt pouch, after about three hours i pull the phone out to make a phone call i found my phone burning hot and battery was almost drained. Couldn't bare any more.
I came back home after few days, returned SGS2 and got Sensation.
Sensation is so far so good, Over all very satisfied.

boostedb16b said:
...he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2...
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.

BarryH_GEG said:
I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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i completely agree with you.. but it will never happen because everyone has their opinion and that is what causes all of this nonsense. but fair is fair everyone has a preference but to force your preference on others really pushes my buttons. and you do have to admit they are other who go to other threads to bash others for what they want i do visit the sgs2 forums but out of respect i dont post there because i am not at this moment considering the phone but for knowledge i like to read how it is going.

Good decision.
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I'm agree with you good decision
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I disappoint... Galaxy S II is much better!
Since 2003 I'm a HTC sure user but now I have to disappoint at all with you and with HTC!
I'm very sorry the new sensation is just considered worse than Galaxy S II but we have to admit this is the thuth!
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
4) cameras: Samsung first one 8mpxl, second one (frontal) 2mpxl; for htc sens is 8mpxl the first one too, but 1.3mpxl the sencond one....
5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
I'm very sad to tell it but this time I'll change and I'll buy a Samsung...

Good decision OP, who cares about SamSux. I'll give give them 2-3 month and all hell will break lose in there. SamSux bashing SamSux, look at our development section phones isn't release and no clockwork mod yet and we have 3 roms already. That just tells you HTC is more superior than SamSux. Untill they change their filesystem, HTC will be prefer choice for dev community. Don't matter what spec they have.
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I loved the fact that the Galaxy S2 is a very sleek design, thin and light. But the drawbacks - especially in the software area - are very obvious. Their replacements of stock Google apps are, in general, not better but much worse than the original. Plenty of bugs still plague the software - the current version of Music player causes random reboots, data connection is stalling all the time.
Sense (from what I could test on colleagues phones - mainly Desire HD) seems much more thought out and usable to me. I will, still, probably switch to a stock Android ROM, should one arise. But I don't want to be dependent on that.
paocavallo said:
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
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While AMOLED certainly does produce excellent black levels and saturated colours (maybe even oversaturated), after owning a Nexus One with AMOLED since release I do think the drawback of the technology is the inevitable screen burn-in you get after a few months of use. Nothing that is really bothersome, but LCD technology certainly does have its advantages (besides the higher resolution)
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2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
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Considering the high RAM usage of Sense, 1GB would have been nice - but still, 768MB should be plenty.
paocavallo said:
3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
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The actual available application memory on the Galaxy S2 is about 2GB, the rest is formated as an internal SD card. In my situation, I typically have about 500MB of app space used - 2GB would have been a nice, but that will still leave me with plenty of headroom once my Sensation is here. A 32GB SD-card will take care of all other storage problems (mainly podcasts, music).
paocavallo said:
5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
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This will vary greatly, but the battery access cover on the Galaxy S2 is very flimsy and uncomfortable to remove. I always carry a second battery for my Nexus One, I will do the same for my Sensation. Changing batteries on the Galaxy S2 (as soon as replacements are available in stores) will be a hassle.

i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use

ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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You may get flamed by some of the fanboys, but at the end of the day it's all about what feels good to YOU and stuff the rest. I again prefer the more solid feel and try to avoid "cheap" plasticky feel, plus have been put off by plenty of users in many forums I've been to who knock Samsung's lack of updates. Hopefully for you they sort this out. Good luck with your choice
I probably still have a month or 2 before the Sensation is available here, and am hoping for some positive news re the bootloader saga.

ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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epsix said:
Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?

rd_nest said:
Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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There you goes again troll, this man use to have Sensation but dont like it so he bought SGII, I wish him well with his purchase just don't come back here and be a SamSux troll just like you idiots.
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PartyMango said:
I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
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What do you mean? The HTC sensation doesn't have HSPA+.
I thought they said "runs on 4G network".
http://blog.t-mobile.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unveils-its-most-powerful-handset/

I currently have a G2x as well as the Atrix. Ordered the Sensation and the SGS2 as well. Been using both the G2x and the Atrix for a while now and so far, I'm inclined towards the Atrix even though it has the locked bootloader simply because Ive had too many random reboot issues, freeze issues with the G2x (even though I've returned it twice) and I'm not concerned about the light bleed issue.
Once I've received the SGS2 and the Sensation (This Tuesday woohooo!!), I'll have all 4 to test with side by side. Will narrow it down to the top 2 and those are the ones I'm keeping I usually have 2 phones (1 work, 1 personal). If anyone has any suggestions or want me to look at/compare something in specific, let me know.

It's funny..... These [email protected] trolls still lurking in our thread searching for every details to start **** up? My my..... Go flash some TouchCrap will ya.. LMAO
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Breakthrough phone

We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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i agree, the phone is phenomenal, but the major concern is all the bloatware hogging ram, and the NON STOP data because of them...
not to mention, most HTC users here are used to 100% accesable hardware/software, mostly thx to teh devs tho, and NOT HTC.
they made a promise they couldnt keep, and YET AGAIN, the devs beat em to it
#teamwin should rename to HTC, LTD.
Hate
The
Corporation,
Love
The
Device!

I'm with you on that I love the device people are looking for the smallest problems though and complaining. I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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bigpopapat said:
I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire

Solidus_n313 said:
hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire
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i been saying this for the longest

not really (but no flame intended)
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02

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no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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CUZ STONE COLD SAYS SO! sorry dude ... had to.
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steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation

@ running sloth: np. I have been seeing that a lot lately, though my name is in homage to the original Steve Austin, the 6 million Dollar man.

not really, again...
tigerz0202 said:
no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.

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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC

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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC
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Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...

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Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...
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I made a post saying the same thing and got flamed..ha.
It's only the amount of devices affected and customers out of that amount affected that gets HTC to respond and quite simply "Sprint don't play that sh*t" in a nutshell. To be non-technical.
T-Mobile is on self-destruct right about now I might have to say. Sad part is its NOT intentional. I do however feel it's unfair to ignore others who are having issues.
My personal example of issues:
Device 1: Returned due to dead pixels like freckles.
Device 2: Returned Random signal drop not tower related
I'm now on device 3 and i have had it for 4 days...The power/wake button has "con-caved" on one side and today my touch screen stopped responding and i can barely unlock the screen now. I can barerly swipe left and right...I have NO apps downloaded other than Tweetdeck and XDA so IDK what could be causing it.
So I agree about the "senseless" (for lack of a better word) babbling about dumb stuff in here but some of us do have issues.

It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.

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We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.
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...even thought they went out of their way to say that the evo3D was going to be S-OFF :/
also, htc did nothing wrong by locking the bootloader, but where they DID go wrong is how they expressed their dedication to their customers and will unlock, then completely disappeared...
not to mention they have pushed many updates to the evo3D, and one for sensation, yet no S-OFF, AND they have a new phone coming out again! the pint size sensation, it has 50% specs of S4G...
...quietly disappointing

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I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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Try ultra keyboard. It has arrow keys and a host of other great features.

steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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+1 GREAT POST
Sensation a breakthrough phone?
COME ON! WAKE UP!
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tigerz0202 said:
no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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Sense 3.0 was on the Desire HD before sensation released!
Plus its much faster on Desire HD then on the Sensation [email protected]
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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Evo3D is the TRUE BREAKTHROUGH!
I Cannot understand how Sensation Owners think the Sensation stands a chance against the Evo

[Q] Why no advertising about One X? did they know something was wrong?

If this is HTC's flagship device why arent there many ads? nothing on AT&T's site, Nearly noting on TV (only one i've seen is the sky diver) I just find this strange... Every other manufacturer, (in the past,HTC devices included) has flooded the TV with ads about their newest flagship devices... Makes me wonder if they know that it might not be so flagship maybe some of these bugs have been known for a while and/or arent easily addressed... Maybe they dont want everyone buying a h0x and re labeling them h4x lol... just thinking out loud.... I certainly hope i'm 100% wrong... but still... Why no advertising??? this is by far one of the prettiest phones ever made...seems like they'd flaunt that...doesnt it?

I don't even have tv and I've seen at least 3 different commercials while just at friends houses. Also I just saw a Best Buy catalog that had the ATT and Sprint version right on the front.
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Most of the advertising for new devices is actually done by the carrier themselves. If you pay attention, you will see that T-mobile is pushing the One S quite a bit but you dont really see ATT pushing the X. Thats primarily due to the conflict it would cause with the Lumia. Nokia put something like 25 million dollars to ATT to push this phone. That was to help with advertising and also to ensure that around 80% of the corporate retail employees carry the phone for 90 days. They arent going to start pushing another device like crazy. On another note, ATT has shown they have a hard time adopting android devices so that probably impacts it as well.

dragunbayne said:
I don't even have tv and I've seen at least 3 different commercials while just at friends houses. Also I just saw a Best Buy catalog that had the ATT and Sprint version right on the front.
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What location? its not even pictured on ATT wireless home page. Sprint version is a different phone. Cant really compare it. It has a removable and bigger battery and an SD card. A few people have speculated the multi tasking issues could be as a result of super poor battery performance..Changing the multi tasking to save battery. 3 differnt commercials eh? and no tv? What in the hell have i been watching (or smoking maybe )the past few weeks i wonder.. Anyone else notice a lack of ads or is it just me?

i do realize the carriers are doing the majority of the ads.. but still i cant recall any of the recent flagship phones (evo, razor, gsII, etc) having such poor ad support. i didnt realize microsft paid them so dearly.. guess that could be the reason.

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i do realize the carriers are doing the majority of the ads.. but still i cant recall any of the recent flagship phones (evo, razor, gsII, etc) having such poor ad support. i didnt realize microsft paid them so dearly.. guess that could be the reason.
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Im sure microsoft is also filling the ATT coffers, but from what i understand Nokia is who is pushing the lumia like crazy. But if you pay close attention, ATT doesnt really push any of their android line. In recent memory, the only phone i can recall seeing them advertise was the Note, and honestly that may have been a Sammy commercial. Typically when i see an advert from ATT its the iphone.

cost money to do ads

nugzo said:
If this is HTC's flagship device why arent there many ads? nothing on AT&T's site, Nearly noting on TV (only one i've seen is the sky diver) I just find this strange... Every other manufacturer, (in the past,HTC devices included) has flooded the TV with ads about their newest flagship devices... Makes me wonder if they know that it might not be so flagship maybe some of these bugs have been known for a while and/or arent easily addressed... Maybe they dont want everyone buying a h0x and re labeling them h4x lol... just thinking out loud.... I certainly hope i'm 100% wrong... but still... Why no advertising??? this is by far one of the prettiest phones ever made...seems like they'd flaunt that...doesnt it?
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1) AT&T received huge advertising support from MS and Nokia to promote the 900. I was surprised they launched the One X as close behind it as they did. The launch was actually pushed up a month, I'm guessing to beat the SGS3 announcement.
2) There's a shortage of 28nm wafers which is hampering the ramp up of S4 production. The One XL launch was just delayed several months in Australia because of it. If the One X is selling well based on the quantities available there'd be no need for advertising.
3) The "bugs" are minor and outside the wireless issue(s) fewer than most phone launches. Things like multitasking and locked bootloaders are 100% irrelevant to 95% of purchasers of the phone. XDA does not represent the needs or standards of the majority of the phone buying public.

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Evo had even less promotion, trust me.
RAZR is pushed big time by Verizon, as they frantically want everyone to switch to LTE to ease off on the now loaded (iphone) 3g network.
GSII, Samsung IS the largest smartphone of the world, so that's that.
I also want to assure you what you are thinking might be (HTC not wanting to promote it becasue of issues) is absolutely not true. This IS HTC's flagship device. They want everyone and their mother to buy it.
ATT will not promote it as they have bigger fish to catch on the iphone/Lumia front. This is HTC's M.O., they don't do too much ads.

You should see in Canada. Rogers is pushing the HTC One X like crazy. I don't have cable but I do have Roku and the online streams are pretty busy with ads for it. Bell is doing the same thing with the One S.

They are out of stock everywhere (including online). Wouldn't be good to advertise unless you have the phone.

There are posters of the One X everywhere in Sydney and I've seen the skydiving ads a couple of times on TV too. Fking love this phone so much. Too bad I dont have money -.-

Hell the HTC Vivid had little to none when it came to advertising and IMO it was an awesome phone.. HTC One X was the logical step in the right direction for me
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The guy jumps out the the plane with the HTC ONE X, seen it maybe a dozen times lots of ads.....

On American Idol here they have been pushing the one X. Now on the beats speaker ad they replaced the Vivid with the One X. They have also aired the Sky Diving ad a few times too.

I'd agree with the Lumia theory. When I worked into the corporate att store to buy my one x I was surrounded by sales associates all wearing Lumia shirts. Then when I got rung up there was a huge Lumia sign on the wall behind the register
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I'm seeing ads in Houston Texas. And when watching a video on YouTube that has an ad I see it there a lot.
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In the past, the other carriers pushed HTC phones hard, since they didn't have the iPhone. And the strategy worked, as Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mob all built up a big and loyal Android customer base.
AT&T is advertising the One X more than any other past HTC phone that I can recall. I really can't remember any TV ads for previous AT&T HTC phones (but maybe my memory falters here), and only a few for any Android device on the carrier (I can remember ads for the crappy Backflip, and not really anything else). AT&T is still heavily into pushing the iPhone, even now that its not exclusive. When I click online to upgrade my device, I get a screen smeared with what is basically an iPhone ad, and have to click through in order to select any "other" device.
And yes, the Lumia is getting pushed pretty hard. On a side note, I don't see AT&T spending so much their own money advertising an OS that sells so poorly, with Windows phone being well into single digits for % market share in smartphones. So just guessing that all the ad dollars are all coming from MS.
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Really? Maybe its just a regional thing (or cable provider), but in the past, Sprint has consistently had tons of advertising for the EVO line in my area (EVO 4G and 3D).

nugzo said:
What location? its not even pictured on ATT wireless home page. Sprint version is a different phone. Cant really compare it. It has a removable and bigger battery and an SD card. A few people have speculated the multi tasking issues could be as a result of super poor battery performance..Changing the multi tasking to save battery. 3 differnt commercials eh? and no tv? What in the hell have i been watching (or smoking maybe )the past few weeks i wonder.. Anyone else notice a lack of ads or is it just me?
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The One-x on sprint (evo 4g lte) does not have a removable battery. Not sure where you read that. It does have a sd card slot but that's and I believe a slightly bigger battery but that's about it.

txmade said:
On American Idol here they have been pushing the one X. Now on the beats speaker ad they replaced the Vivid with the One X. They have also aired the Sky Diving ad a few times too.
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This ^. Watch American Idol and it's all over. They were even wearing One X shirts!

Samsung announcing the S4 the day before the release of the one...

Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One's launch. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling their pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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Gunner86 said:
Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling there pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?

stesa said:
TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?
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True sir, I'm following you

NiCk.JaY said:
True sir, I'm following you
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Same not interested in the galaxy s4. Had an s3 and it was nothing to write home about

I agree about Samsung, I had S3 and Note 2 and both are nothing to write home about except for note 2 battery life.

Gunner86 said:
Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One's launch. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling their pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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about a week ago, my next phone was indeterminate between the HTC1, SGS4, and the Motorola X-Phone.
initially, the SGS4 was rumoured to have amazing specs, but recent rumours have Samsung nerfing more and more of these "killer specs" due to production issues(though the 8-core exynos they were originally supposed to be going with was just two switch-between quad cores of different speeds, meaning the qualcomm which is now rumoured isn't actually a nerf after all) .
Add the fact that it will almost certainly be sporting the cheap poly-carbonate shell, the S4 is not a contender for me anymore.
the HTC1's solid build will help it a lot against the SGS4 threat since many buyers base their decision more on how a phone feels than what it contains (just look at all the people buying iPhones)
biggest thing against it will probably be battery life. If HTC didn't pick up their game in this regard, then the rumoured 3000Mah X-phone may take the market.
I wish there was something more substantial than rumours to go by.

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I agree about Samsung, I had S3 and Note 2 and both are nothing to write home about except for note 2 battery life.
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same here

I don't expect there to be a huge overall jump in anything - The S3 was an underwhelming update to the S2 - same damn camera, pentile screen etc.
But rest assured that Samsung will have some sort of ace up it's sleeve and/or marketing gimmicky crap (Pop up play, Nature UX ,S-voice, Smart Stay, S-note, S-tits) that will devour the entire market share of the segment.
Samsung does do the basics well though - it will have microSD and I expect the battery of the S4 to be excellent and close to 3000mAh - but they have very Apple like followers now. If they include some aluminum on their chassis and call it hyperaluminum and it'd sell 10 million on that alone.
I mean seriously - they called the glossy plastic back on the S3 'hyperglaze'.

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I don't expect there to be a huge overall jump in anything - The S3 was an underwhelming update to the S2 - same damn camera, pentile screen etc.
But rest assured that Samsung will have some sort of ace up it's sleeve and/or marketing gimmicky crap (Pop up play, Nature UX ,S-voice, Smart Stay, S-note, S-tits) that will devour the entire market share of the segment.
Samsung does do the basics well though - it will have microSD and I expect the battery of the S4 to be excellent and close to 3000mAh - but they have very Apple like followers now. If they include some aluminum on their chassis and call it hyperaluminum and it'd sell 10 million on that alone.
I mean seriously - they called the glossy plastic back on the S3 'hyperglaze'.
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"hyperglaze" ? they should had called it "hypercrap" LOL

The only feature I thought that was quite clever on the s3 was the 'smart stay' thing... Pop up play I NEVER used... ever! S Voice was a pile of crap, most of the features were naff
And lets be honest... Samsung has made it's fortune by essentially ripping off apple with its design, people will jump on me for saying that but it's true. A physical home key with the other android keys that fade into the background so it looks like they're not there, similar shapes, a UI that looks extremely similar. Samsung have done well with marketing but.. not for me Each to their own I guess.

love this thread so far

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The only feature I thought that was quite clever on the s3 was the 'smart stay' thing... Pop up play I NEVER used... ever! S Voice was a pile of crap, most of the features were naff
And lets be honest... Samsung has made it's fortune by essentially ripping off apple with its design, people will jump on me for saying that but it's true. A physical home key with the other android keys that fade into the background so it looks like they're not there, similar shapes, a UI that looks extremely similar. Samsung have done well with marketing but.. not for me Each to their own I guess.
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I honestly think that samsung was there for the taking at the time of the S3 - it was an underwhelming device. HTC were in with a huge chance but - like the Sensation before it - the One X was plagued with teething problems which put its performance below the GS3 as the time.
It always takes a while and 2-3 updates for HTC devices to realize their potential - remember HTC Sensation and the memory issues with the browser and the launcher? and the GPU lag? The Galaxy S2 had none of that and went on to become the people's champion. HOWEVER - after a few painful months and great dev work the issues were fixed and the Sensation went on to become even better than the S2 IMO - but it was too late.
In the case of the One X, HTC already had the best design and screen on the market but it was plagued with software/driver issues. Honestly, the One X before and after the Jellybean update were too completely different devices - gone was the overheating, the stuttery UI, the poor battery - it had become an amazing phone. But again, most people were put off by the initial problems and just went for the S3 instead.
I feel that HTC really need a solid, issue free launch for the One for it to be a success because, objectively, i don't see anything coming close to the One this year. HTC's really changed the game with the speakers and camera - and no-one saw it coming. All the One now needs is a well executed launch with no major issues and I feel the One can be THE top selling phone of the year.
Now, obviously with any new device there will be bugs in the beginning which is fine as long as they're minor and quickly addressed. Hopefully HTC avoids these issues and really takes the game to Samsung this year.

I applaud HTC for having the guts to do something different.... Samsung will just 'increase' the spec a bit over the S3 and for most people they'll be like 'OMG THIS IS THE BEST PHONE EVER' and if it does what you want then fair enough.
I really really hate how the galaxy range feels so cheap in the hand, when your spending that much money you want a premium product and I think that's why people love Apple so much... It may be expensive but you normally feel like it's worth the cost.

If you ask within the XDA community - whether anyone would cancel their orders for HTC One, answer is NO. Whoever decided to get HTC One is getting it. It doesn't really matter what Samsung shows for GS4, people will get the HTC One who already pre-ordered.
The same question if you ask outside the XDA community, then it's something totally different. As always, only thing which will push the device to consumers is marketing, promotion and brand awareness. HTC has to match Samsung's efforts in marketing. Else, many people might actually cancel the order.
Android Central is hosting "World's First Samsung Galaxy S4 Contest". Really!! And there are now close to 4000 comments already. HTC needs something to combat this Samsung marketing juggernaut.
I think HTC's deal with AOL might help them. All AOL sites are part of blinkfeed.
http://blog.aol.com/2013/02/19/aol-debuts-on-the-brand-new-htc-one/
They will however need much more than that. Expect a good review from Engadget and Techcrunch for HTC One.

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I agree with the statement above. ^^^^^ Thing is, Samsung has made a name for itself just like Apple, The iPhone isn't that great, but people worship apple like they are perfect. Coming from an iOS community i've seen the most ridiculous BS ever. Following people on twitter waiting over night for the next iPhone, iPad, crappy Macbooks, when none of them are ever that great. Just over expensive and too simple. They practically worship apple and its disgusting. I can understand people going for the "just works" slogan because, well, they "just work", great. But people who are on android want way more than that. Which is why i find Android Superior and am going from a iPhone 4 to an HTC One. Even though Android IS better in pretty much every aspect, people go to apple. They were the first, so they had a head start and made a name for themselves. (Also I think android before 4.0 was bad anyways, I didn't like it and i haven't seen so many people switch until 4.0 was out) So it will most likely be that Apple will always be ahead in smartphone sales. Samsung also was an early competitor, and was able to get there name out there since they had so much money to advertise. So everyone I know is either ALL APPLE, or they will only go for Samsung, thinking everything else is inferior. Not saying Samsung is terrible, but they got ahead while I think there smartphones aren't superior. This is why I think Samsung will hurt HTC when it comes too sales. Samsung is big, HTC isn't.

Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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strip419 said:
Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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Looks like tomatoes8 is back with a ghost account.
Anyways less db's on HTC forums.

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TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?
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Actually, if you care about HTC as a company then you should care about the announcement - it would be an understatement to say that this is the most crucial battle yet for HTC - and they've done their part by making an excellent product. So let's see.

strip419 said:
Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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Problem is that the S4 was surely in production before they knew HTC would be using aluminum. And believe me, I already believe that Samsung will out do the HTC One by a long shot because Samsung has always done better with marketing there phones. Im sure they will release a new version of TouchWiz with lots of new features, but the Ones features are also great. Sense 5 looks mint, compared to TouchWiz and unless Samsung follows in that more minimalist design I'll still find TouchWiz ugly. I would agree its not about maknig the better phone is its about profits. Just like every other company in the world. Samsung will always have the upper hand whether or not they are crappy or great. Just like we see with pretty much every single Apple product. They made a name for themselves, So no matter what they put out, the iSheep WILL continue to buy there overpriced, crappy products. Still, Samsung > Apple any day. Samsungs products aren't crappy but i've never been impressed by a single thing Samsung has ever done.

xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
Problem is that the S4 was surely in production before they knew HTC would be using aluminum. And believe me, I already believe that Samsung will out do the HTC One by a long shot because Samsung has always done better with marketing there phones. Im sure they will release a new version of TouchWiz with lots of new features, but the Ones features are also great. Sense 5 looks mint, compared to TouchWiz and unless Samsung follows in that more minimalist design I'll still find TouchWiz ugly. I would agree its not about maknig the better phone is its about profits. Just like every other company in the world. Samsung will always have the upper hand whether or not they are crappy or great. Just like we see with pretty much every single Apple product. They made a name for themselves, So no matter what they put out, the iSheep WILL continue to buy there overpriced, crappy products. Still, Samsung > Apple any day. Samsungs products aren't crappy but i've never been impressed by a single thing Samsung has ever done.
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