We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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i agree, the phone is phenomenal, but the major concern is all the bloatware hogging ram, and the NON STOP data because of them...
not to mention, most HTC users here are used to 100% accesable hardware/software, mostly thx to teh devs tho, and NOT HTC.
they made a promise they couldnt keep, and YET AGAIN, the devs beat em to it
#teamwin should rename to HTC, LTD.
Hate
The
Corporation,
Love
The
Device!
I'm with you on that I love the device people are looking for the smallest problems though and complaining. I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire
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hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire
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i been saying this for the longest
not really (but no flame intended)
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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CUZ STONE COLD SAYS SO! sorry dude ... had to.
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no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
@ running sloth: np. I have been seeing that a lot lately, though my name is in homage to the original Steve Austin, the 6 million Dollar man.
not really, again...
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no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC
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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC
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Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...
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Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...
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I made a post saying the same thing and got flamed..ha.
It's only the amount of devices affected and customers out of that amount affected that gets HTC to respond and quite simply "Sprint don't play that sh*t" in a nutshell. To be non-technical.
T-Mobile is on self-destruct right about now I might have to say. Sad part is its NOT intentional. I do however feel it's unfair to ignore others who are having issues.
My personal example of issues:
Device 1: Returned due to dead pixels like freckles.
Device 2: Returned Random signal drop not tower related
I'm now on device 3 and i have had it for 4 days...The power/wake button has "con-caved" on one side and today my touch screen stopped responding and i can barely unlock the screen now. I can barerly swipe left and right...I have NO apps downloaded other than Tweetdeck and XDA so IDK what could be causing it.
So I agree about the "senseless" (for lack of a better word) babbling about dumb stuff in here but some of us do have issues.
It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.
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We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.
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...even thought they went out of their way to say that the evo3D was going to be S-OFF :/
also, htc did nothing wrong by locking the bootloader, but where they DID go wrong is how they expressed their dedication to their customers and will unlock, then completely disappeared...
not to mention they have pushed many updates to the evo3D, and one for sensation, yet no S-OFF, AND they have a new phone coming out again! the pint size sensation, it has 50% specs of S4G...
...quietly disappointing
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I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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Try ultra keyboard. It has arrow keys and a host of other great features.
steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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+1 GREAT POST
Sensation a breakthrough phone?
COME ON! WAKE UP!
LOL
tigerz0202 said:
no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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Sense 3.0 was on the Desire HD before sensation released!
Plus its much faster on Desire HD then on the Sensation [email protected]
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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+1
Evo3D is the TRUE BREAKTHROUGH!
I Cannot understand how Sensation Owners think the Sensation stands a chance against the Evo
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So I have an upgrade coming in the second week of june, I have the my touch 4g but my my touch slide is eligible for the 2 year upgrade. Do I get the g2x, wait and see if the sensation comes out when its supposed to, or sick with my touch 4g? Or even possible see if the galaxy s2 comes to tmobile? Just want done opinions! Thanks!
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Not another one of these threads...
I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
Say no to sense
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I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
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Engadget had a post today saying that HTC was considering unlocking the bootloader.
In a market where the (good) phones are currently even so far as specs are concerned, a company would be shooting themselves in the foot by restricting a system that the others are leaving open.
My 2 cents.
My other 2 cents is if you can wait, then wait. Play with the Sensation when it comes out. You like it, buy it. You don't, buy the G2x.
My last bit of change, if you are content for the time being with the phone you have, don't jump for either until at least a month after the Sensation has come out. Right now, the G2x user experience for the majority of us is frustrating and I can only imagine the Sensation will be the same. Just wait and see what comes of both of them.
Get all of them!!!!! :d:d:d:d:d
I posted a TON of information why I didn't like the Sensation. The encrypted locked bootloader was high on the list but here are others:
-The Tegra 2 is like 33% more powerful then the dual-core snapdragon
-HDMI/microUSB = No HDMI Out + Charging (since no TV's support the MDLP yet)
-Locked encrypted Bootloader + New Sense = Mercy of HTC for bug fixes
-NVidia pushing devs for enhanced Tegra Apps = No go on non-Tegra devices
-Lower Res Front Camera
It does look like a sexy phone though. We'll see what problems it has out of the box compared to the G2x.
The G2x does have its problems but Tegra chips are new. Most work pretty well out of the box. Most of the issues we have is from the phone shipping with a 2.2 Kernel and everyone is flashing the leaked 2.3.3 rom. The drivers and stuff get funky but we're expected to get an updated kernel soon (the OS was already leaked).
I would agree though that I would wait a few weeks. While the G2x is great, it would be best to know your options to what best suites you. The Sensation is due out soon and you can compare the two side-by-side.
If the bootloader was unlocked, I could "possibly" live with the other stuff.
Wait and see what our big gingerbread update looks like on the g2x because like someone said before, this has been a frustrating experience so far... once we get that bad boy out and assuming it is a stable, quality build with much better driver support then the sky is the limit with this device! it will be the tegra2 flagship phone for the next 18 months
few things about the sensation that bothered me from my n1, and this is an HTC issue, their external speakers are a joke to say the least, poorly positioned, horrible sound, never loud enough... the g2x's external speaker is pretty solid in my opinion. And the HTC cameras are nothing to brag about either. I saw a video of both phones doing 1080p recording and the Sensation had a horrible red-shift problem...
number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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Honestly, I love this phone but the lack of custom ROMs is starting to annoy me. I want a damn MIUI ROM or at least something other than CM7 and EaglesBlood (I love AOSP though but MIUI on top of AOSP would be perfect). HTC phones always seem to end up with the most development behind them and their touch panels are some of the most sensitive in the industry (quite unlike the G2x which annoys the hell out of me sometimes with how hard I have to press on it). I think the tides will start to turn on HTC development though with the locked bootloaders.
That said, between HTC, LG, and Samsung - I'd pick the Samsung. For one, HTC uses Snapdragon chips - Qualcomm has a long (very long) history of promising that their chips will do this, that, the third, and even the fourth - but they never come through. Tegra 3 is coming out this year though and that's going to be a beast to contend with - the Exynos from Samsung absolutely decimates the Tegra 2.
Build quality on my Captivate was phenomenal - I've never had an HTC phone with great build quality - and that's going all the way back to the PPC-6800. There have always been issues. This is my first LG phone and while I enjoy it a lot, the touch panel sensitivity is a huge issue when I'm gaming and really needs to be fixed.
Also, HTC tends to say that the phone has "x" amount of storage space but what really happens (like what happened with the Inspire) is they partition and format it in a way that means you get slightly less than half what they advertise. HTC also has a history of shoddy driver support.
The only pro I see with the HTC is how fast HTC does device updates - that said, they're always sloppy releases and devs have to take them apart anyway - add in the locked bootloader and I don't really see a lot of devs going that way. Also the TegraZone is quickly growing - developers are really taking to the Tegra platform and producing some astounding applications as a result. There is no Qualcomm or Samsung zone and Tegra-optimized applications will not run on another chipset.
+1 etherealremnant
Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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There has been some rumors that T-Mo is skipping this one for the Hercules, which will be a 4.5" screen beast, but like jlevy said, nothing confirmed yet.
Hi!
I returned my Samsung Galaxy S2 back to the store and am now waiting for the HTC Sensation. While the Galaxy S2 is a nice phone, I really despise the TouchWiz. Even with ADW Launcher EX & WidgetLocker mitigating the terribleness of the interface Samsung has built, the stock apps still are very uncomfortable to use - especially e-mail, messaging and calendar are lacking. And most of their other attempts at apps aren't any better - dismal at best.
The back cover is unpleasant to remove which is peeving if you like to switch the battery to a fresh one (although spare batteries are not released till mid-june) or regularly move between different countries and therefore like to change SIMs (like I do).
I also would have preferred a capacitive home-button, instead of a physical switch.
Other bugs (which will probably soon be patched) are bothersome as well, like the 3G data connection regularly stalling - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097612
Specs-wise I think having a higher resolution screen will be a very nice addition, the lower amount of RAM & internal storage probably won't be all that noticeable. I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
Are any other Samsung Galaxy S2 expatriates lurking on this board? What were your Galaxy-experiences, why are you now waiting for the HTC Sensation instead?
you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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i dont banter and i have added constructive info. and he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2. and please dont class me with epsix. he is on his own with that. anyway lets see how well this thread goes because i can see it getting ugly. thats all i was saying. some of you guys act so high and mighty that it sometimes get annoying
I returned my SGS2 as well and got Sensation instead.
Sound quality wasn't very good even with Poweramp.
I had a big hope that supercurio will come up with a solution as he did with original SGS, but here what he tweeted
supercurio François Simond
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@kalpik Thanks, appreciated! I start to know my way in Yamaha's driver now. And tend to believe its a non-fixable hardware issue.
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Ok I explored about everything. Clocks, Master/Slave, Effects. I now believe Yamaha messed up by designing a defective DAC for Samsung.
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Flawed, end of story. I'll still explore the external USB DAC option, but nothing related to the Yamaha #MC1N2 unless they fixed themselves
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supercurio François Simond @
@josejacas to my limited comprehension there is a flaw in an internal resampling/oversampling algorithm. Cannot be modified via this driver.
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Of course you need to relativize what I say here. #GalaxySII sound is probably better than most other Android phones. But not iPhone or SGS
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I've lost my hope about GS2 will ever be a good music player like SGS.
Next Thing
I fully charged my SGS2 and turned on Google latitude (As i was travailing), my phone was in the belt pouch, after about three hours i pull the phone out to make a phone call i found my phone burning hot and battery was almost drained. Couldn't bare any more.
I came back home after few days, returned SGS2 and got Sensation.
Sensation is so far so good, Over all very satisfied.
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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i completely agree with you.. but it will never happen because everyone has their opinion and that is what causes all of this nonsense. but fair is fair everyone has a preference but to force your preference on others really pushes my buttons. and you do have to admit they are other who go to other threads to bash others for what they want i do visit the sgs2 forums but out of respect i dont post there because i am not at this moment considering the phone but for knowledge i like to read how it is going.
Good decision.
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I'm agree with you good decision
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I disappoint... Galaxy S II is much better!
Since 2003 I'm a HTC sure user but now I have to disappoint at all with you and with HTC!
I'm very sorry the new sensation is just considered worse than Galaxy S II but we have to admit this is the thuth!
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
4) cameras: Samsung first one 8mpxl, second one (frontal) 2mpxl; for htc sens is 8mpxl the first one too, but 1.3mpxl the sencond one....
5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
I'm very sad to tell it but this time I'll change and I'll buy a Samsung...
Good decision OP, who cares about SamSux. I'll give give them 2-3 month and all hell will break lose in there. SamSux bashing SamSux, look at our development section phones isn't release and no clockwork mod yet and we have 3 roms already. That just tells you HTC is more superior than SamSux. Untill they change their filesystem, HTC will be prefer choice for dev community. Don't matter what spec they have.
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I loved the fact that the Galaxy S2 is a very sleek design, thin and light. But the drawbacks - especially in the software area - are very obvious. Their replacements of stock Google apps are, in general, not better but much worse than the original. Plenty of bugs still plague the software - the current version of Music player causes random reboots, data connection is stalling all the time.
Sense (from what I could test on colleagues phones - mainly Desire HD) seems much more thought out and usable to me. I will, still, probably switch to a stock Android ROM, should one arise. But I don't want to be dependent on that.
paocavallo said:
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
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While AMOLED certainly does produce excellent black levels and saturated colours (maybe even oversaturated), after owning a Nexus One with AMOLED since release I do think the drawback of the technology is the inevitable screen burn-in you get after a few months of use. Nothing that is really bothersome, but LCD technology certainly does have its advantages (besides the higher resolution)
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2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
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Considering the high RAM usage of Sense, 1GB would have been nice - but still, 768MB should be plenty.
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3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
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The actual available application memory on the Galaxy S2 is about 2GB, the rest is formated as an internal SD card. In my situation, I typically have about 500MB of app space used - 2GB would have been a nice, but that will still leave me with plenty of headroom once my Sensation is here. A 32GB SD-card will take care of all other storage problems (mainly podcasts, music).
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5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
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This will vary greatly, but the battery access cover on the Galaxy S2 is very flimsy and uncomfortable to remove. I always carry a second battery for my Nexus One, I will do the same for my Sensation. Changing batteries on the Galaxy S2 (as soon as replacements are available in stores) will be a hassle.
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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You may get flamed by some of the fanboys, but at the end of the day it's all about what feels good to YOU and stuff the rest. I again prefer the more solid feel and try to avoid "cheap" plasticky feel, plus have been put off by plenty of users in many forums I've been to who knock Samsung's lack of updates. Hopefully for you they sort this out. Good luck with your choice
I probably still have a month or 2 before the Sensation is available here, and am hoping for some positive news re the bootloader saga.
ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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epsix said:
Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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There you goes again troll, this man use to have Sensation but dont like it so he bought SGII, I wish him well with his purchase just don't come back here and be a SamSux troll just like you idiots.
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I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
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What do you mean? The HTC sensation doesn't have HSPA+.
I thought they said "runs on 4G network".
http://blog.t-mobile.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unveils-its-most-powerful-handset/
I currently have a G2x as well as the Atrix. Ordered the Sensation and the SGS2 as well. Been using both the G2x and the Atrix for a while now and so far, I'm inclined towards the Atrix even though it has the locked bootloader simply because Ive had too many random reboot issues, freeze issues with the G2x (even though I've returned it twice) and I'm not concerned about the light bleed issue.
Once I've received the SGS2 and the Sensation (This Tuesday woohooo!!), I'll have all 4 to test with side by side. Will narrow it down to the top 2 and those are the ones I'm keeping I usually have 2 phones (1 work, 1 personal). If anyone has any suggestions or want me to look at/compare something in specific, let me know.
It's funny..... These [email protected] trolls still lurking in our thread searching for every details to start **** up? My my..... Go flash some TouchCrap will ya.. LMAO
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I'm sure almost every single one of in here debated on waiting for the sensation but strayed away because the locked bootloader...
But wait HTC is going to start only making unlocked bootloader android phones now... what do u guys think.. will u be selling ur g2x or....
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...bootlader-policy/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I'm not going to make that decision until a few weeks after the Sensation drops. I'll wait to see reviews on...build quality...how fast it is...dev support etc...
I'm really happy with the g2x though...so, I won't be going anywhere unless the Sensation is clearly very superior. And I don't anticipate that...
I believe, even though they are saying they will not continue with locked bootloaders, that the Sensation's bootloader is indeed locked.
So it's going to come down to waiting for someone to unlock the bootloader, or waiting for HTC to do so, if they will do it for the device.
Personally, I won't be changing as I am not a fan of HTC devices at all.
Yeah I don't think the sensation will be unlocked and from what I have read it wont stand up to our g2xs but future htcs such as doubleshot and more will be unlocked bootloaders which kinda makes me have hope once again in HTC although I've always been a fan. Until the locked loaders and was very annoyed with the hd7 HTC lost points for that
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Yeah I don't think the sensation will be unlocked and from what I have read it wont stand up to our g2xs but future htcs such as doubleshot and more will be unlocked bootloaders which kinda makes me have hope once again in HTC although I've always been a fan. Until the locked loaders and was very annoyed with the hd7 HTC lost points for that
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the evo 3d and sensation will be sent out with locked bootloaders BUT will be unlocked upon a OTA update
as for being faster or better than the G2x its all opinions and bias reviews
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I'm not going to make that decision until a few weeks after the Sensation drops. I'll wait to see reviews on...build quality...how fast it is...dev support etc...
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and who ever said "ill wait for reviews" why dont you just buy a iphone already
your going to buy a $500 phone because of a few reviews?
*tips*
dont buy a phone because a review(s)
dont buy a phone based on ****ED apps claiming to benchmark all phones the same (cuz they dont)
dont buy a phone because everyone is getting it
buy a phone that you will like and meets your standards
otherwise buy a iphone cuz the reasons you stated why you will wait are like me stating a phone is better when its a fu*king opinion
REAL WORLD STATS ONLY MATTER
fu*k whats on paper or ****ty apps that dont give you the same results
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the evo 3d and sensation will be sent out with locked bootloaders BUT will be unlocked upon a OTA update
as for being faster or better than the G2x its all opinions and bias reviews
and who ever said "ill wait for reviews" why dont you just buy a iphone already
your going to buy a phone because of a few reviews?
*tips*
dont buy a phone because a review(s)
dont buy a phone based on ****ED apps claiming to benchmark all phones the same (cuz they dont)
dont buy a phone because everyone is getting it
buy a phone that you will like and meets your standards
otherwise buy a iphone cuz the reasons you stated why you will wait are like me stating a phone is better when its a fu*king opinion
REAL WORLD STATS ONLY MATTER
fu*k whats on paper or ****ty apps that dont give you the same results
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I agree to a point. Still excited to see what HTC brings on its next unlocked bootloader that gets dev support
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nate420 said:
the evo 3d and sensation will be sent out with locked bootloaders BUT will be unlocked upon a OTA update
as for being faster or better than the G2x its all opinions and bias reviews
and who ever said "ill wait for reviews" why dont you just buy a iphone already
your going to buy a $500 phone because of a few reviews?
*tips*
dont buy a phone because a review(s)
dont buy a phone based on ****ED apps claiming to benchmark all phones the same (cuz they dont)
dont buy a phone because everyone is getting it
buy a phone that you will like and meets your standards
otherwise buy a iphone cuz the reasons you stated why you will wait are like me stating a phone is better when its a fu*king opinion
REAL WORLD STATS ONLY MATTER
fu*k whats on paper or ****ty apps that dont give you the same results
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Ummm...someone is off their meds...
So, we need an English lesson...let's review...there are many definitions, but this is the one I was primarily using.
Review: (noun) An inspection or examination for the purpose of evaluation.
Reviews of real usage from real users are indispensable. The type you might find in the XDA forums....where issues like screen bleed, random reboots, locked bootloaders, etc... are reviewed and discussed. Spending $500 on anything without reviewing the subject is just...stupid.
If you need clarification as to what I'm talking about, next time ask before you open your ass and start with the insults.
As for an Iphone...I wouldn't touch one with your slimy green weenie.
Oh, and Locked Bootloader = Not Buying....Thanks for reviewing that issue for me Dameon.
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Ummm...someone is off their meds...
So, we need an English lesson...let's review...there are many definitions, but this is the one I was primarily using.
Review: (noun) An inspection or examination for the purpose of evaluation.
Reviews of real usage from real users are indispensable. The type you might find in the XDA forums....where issues like screen bleed, random reboots, locked bootloaders, etc... are reviewed and discussed. Spending $500 on anything without reviewing the subject is just...stupid.
If you need clarification as to what I'm talking about, next time ask before you open your ass and start with the insults.
As for an Iphone...I wouldn't touch one with your slimy green weenie.
Oh, and Locked Bootloader = Not Buying....Thanks for reviewing that issue for me Dameon.
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ha ha! Aren't you glad he's gone? He was taking all the fun out of this forum...
Sensation is auto fail because of the screen tech. I can see my g2x in direct sunlight.
G2x with CM7 and trinity kernel
Sensation most likely
Im outside of my 30 day buyers remorse period, however I have had it with the constant freezing and rebooting of the phone. I understand new devices come with bugs but seriously when its happening daily I dont consider it a bug I consider it broken. Tmo is giving me the run around about getting the phone returned but in the end the customer usually always wins.
Ill go back to my N1 until the Sensation comes out, who knows maybe the Sensation will suck and I can hold off until the SGS II is released. This all hinders on me actually staying with Tmo at this point. Verizon is looking better and better every day.
Htc is my favorite manufacturer. it's going to be near impossible to not be sitting at t-mobile when the store opens june 8th. If the Sensation becomes available before then online, I'll but it then, especially since htc announced their bootloaders will be unlocked.
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hahaha yo bdkinney always cracks me up yo bro who gives a **** what that du has to say yup DU ....hope ur looking at this , its an opinion man thats what this **** is for if ur gona rant like a 4th grader go somewhere else.....oh n get back on ur thorazine...bastard
@worldwide60 i agree htc is pretty decent in my eyes i had two htc phones n they were awesome last one being the mytouch 4g..... great phone she was
@worldwide60 i agree htc is pretty decent in my eyes i had two htc phones n they were awesome last one being the mytouch 4g..... great phone she was
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Imo, the mt4g is one of the beast single core phones out. It's not really fair to compare it to a dual core. The hd2 is a best of a phone, especially considering it's age. Samsung phones feel cheap, and plasticy in my hands. I prefer to feel the weight of a phone.
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i def agree ^^^^^
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hahaha yo bdkinney always cracks me up yo bro who gives a **** what that du has to say yup DU ....hope ur looking at this , its an opinion man thats what this **** is for if ur gona rant like a 4th grader go somewhere else.....oh n get back on ur thorazine...bastard
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LOL k
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It would be impossible for me to say what phone I would be getting next without using it. It's interesting how many people fall in love with devices based on specs and online reviews. Each handset comes with hidden features and bugs that usually make or break whether they are for you.
I am fortunate enough that I get my hands on most devices and get to take them for a spin for a few days, root them and try flashing some goodness. Most of my friends are tech junkies with more $ than common sense or skills so they just buy whatever is the latest and greatest, try to sell me on how awesome it is before they ever touch it, and then hand it off to me to root and install CWM or whatever is available for them. After purchasing my Vibrant I used at least 6 other handsets that were supposed to be better but had some sort of tradeoff I was unwilling to accept. Finally came the G2X and even though the tradeoff was getting rid of the amazing SAMOLED screen, which I still miss, the benefits were finally great enough to move on.
Now comes the Sensation, which looks great on paper (except for the internal storage), but is it really THAT much better than the G2X? I will reserve judgement until I get a crack at it, but it very much comforts me to know that some of the best developers on the net have a G2X, it is very easy to flash new roms as well as restore to stock condition, and because it launched with a vanilla OS it will/should receive updates sooner and more frequently. These last things mean a whole lot more to me than an extra LED for flash, .3" of screen, and .2Ghz. I also suspect that the Tegra II chipset will receive more love from the gaming community.
had the choice between the SGS2 and the Sensation. even though i hate my current phone (HTC Touch HD) and despite having sworn several times to never buy a HTC phone again i went for the Sensation. it felt better in my hand, plus i wanted the qHD res and i read a lot about people hating Samsung's TouchWiz UI. my alarm bells should've gone off when i compared the UI smoothness of both phones but for some reason i still went with the Sensation (tbh, i was already hoping for snappier custom ROMs later on). i'm hoping to get the new phone within the month (contract running out in august) but after reading about all the technical issues people are having with their Sensations i'm beginning to think i should've picked the SGS2...
so i guess my question is, are you still happy with your Sensation? if you had the chance to go back in time and get a SGS2 instead, would you keep the HTC?
both are good phones. i personally hate the way the galaxy looks.. plus samsung phone is so unoriginal.. everything is a ripe off the apple. its one thing to use a proven design, but its another to be exactly like the other company with a different OS.. Trash
This was posted on the SGS2 forum in response to someone asking what to watch our for in considering the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14572529&postcount=2
Things like design, type of display, UI, and like/dislike of a particular manufacturer are all individual preference and aren't really part of a "performance" discussion.
Oh my God another SGS2 thread ...please get one and leave
I switched to the Sensation from a Samsung Vibrant. The hardware was decent, except for GPS, but Samsung's support was terrible. I've sworn off buying anything from Samsung for a while.
If in doubt, go with your gut.
I love my sensation. I think it looks like a sexier device, but then again looks arent everything right? At least you in Europe get to choose. If us Americans want a sgs2 we have to switch to ATT since the sgs2 doesnt support tmo 3g/4g bands. It seems in terms of performance the sammy blows the sensation out of the water based on tests so far.
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This was posted on the SGS2 forum in response to someone asking what to watch our for in considering the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14572529&postcount=2
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thanks, good to know the samsung's not perfect either..
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It seems in terms of performance the sammy blows the sensation out of the water based on tests so far.
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let's hope that changes with future updates...
mista.maja said:
thanks, good to know the samsung's not perfect either..
let's hope that changes with future updates...
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Yes, lets hope
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It seems in terms of performance the sammy blows the sensation out of the water based on tests so far.
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All the Sensation needs to be is fast enough. No phone will be the "fastest" for more than a few months.
true. coming from a Touch HD, any recent phone will probably make my head spin in terms of UI responsiveness and ease of use. tbh, i don't really care about benchmark results but i'd appreciate knowing the phone i decided to buy stacks up well against the competition
mista.maja said:
had the choice between the SGS2 and the Sensation. even though i hate my current phone (HTC Touch HD) and despite having sworn several times to never buy a HTC phone again i went for the Sensation. it felt better in my hand, plus i wanted the qHD res and i read a lot about people hating Samsung's TouchWiz UI. my alarm bells should've gone off when i compared the UI smoothness of both phones but for some reason i still went with the Sensation (tbh, i was already hoping for snappier custom ROMs later on). i'm hoping to get the new phone within the month (contract running out in august) but after reading about all the technical issues people are having with their Sensations i'm beginning to think i should've picked the SGS2...
so i guess my question is, are you still happy with your Sensation? if you had the chance to go back in time and get a SGS2 instead, would you keep the HTC?
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Most of these problems people have are user error with the exception of dust under the screen. There are just too many idiots these days. These are the same people who have problems with every phone they buy and continually return them and then experience the same problems over and over. I came from a Vibrant and swear by Samsung, but I'll avoid them in the mobile world for a while. Awful phone stock, their software developers are clueless. Rooted was a must to make it useable because of their poor proprietary file system.
Bare in mind current 'benchmarks' don't take into account the increased resolution of the Sensation, nor do they work both the CPUs in the Sensation due to both not running at the same time.
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I switched to the Sensation from a Samsung Vibrant. The hardware was decent, except for GPS, but Samsung's support was terrible. I've sworn off buying anything from Samsung for a while.
If in doubt, go with your gut.
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I'll never own a carrier subsidized phone again. The crapware they add and the hardware and software changes they demand add no value and in some cases screw up the phone. We'll see how long it takes T-Mobile to push a Sensation update after the international version gets a new ROM. To your point on the Vibrant, it's hard to single out the manufacturer when the carrier dictates a lot of what ends up happening with the phone. Other Galaxy S carrier phones weren't nearly as screwed up as the Vibrant.
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All the Sensation needs to be is fast enough. No phone will be the "fastest" for more than a few months.
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i dont think the sensation is fast enough. my g2x is way smoother than the sensation. Both using launcherpro
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
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MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
+1
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PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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+1 on the trackpad... lol who's idea WAS that???
Totally agree with you. The Mytouch 4g is my first smartphone so I never had anything to compare it to, and I've looked at a few of these new "power" phones and the more I see them the more I realize there aren't many phones that I would be happy with coming from the mytouch. It really is a great phone. And all the development that is being done on it only makes it better. I really couldn't ask for a better phone.
although i have an amaze now and i agree, the mt4g is a beastly single core phone. I loved it's design. But are you serious about reaching for the notification bar? Lol it's less then half an inch bigger vertically than the mt4g unless you have small hands then yes that may be problems for some lol.
However, it's not the screen that's annoying but the overall design of the phone.. Such as the spaces above and below the screen is so God dam wide and useless. It's like half an inch on top and full inch on the bottom.
Btw the dual core actually saves battery life because it uses less energy.
And agreed the speed is not a huge difference especially to those who don't do much with their phones. But i noticed many small things that i like especially the camera.
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+1
As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Alenamari said:
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As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
Teo032 said:
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
saranhai said:
and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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Well, take that MIUI M1 phone for instance: $300-something isn't half bad for such machine, it would cost twice as much in the US easily.
PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
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Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
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MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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Gotta say I agree... Love my myTouch 4g!
Teo032 said:
Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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Alenamari said:
Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
Alenamari said:
Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
but yeah Im also sticking with my MT4G as I see no real reason for me to upgrade just yet. this is my first android smartphone and I have no complaints/issues at all...even if I did I already solved them by searching xda. although other devices look appealing, spec-wise I have no reason to get a newer phone that will just get outdone(maybe?) in another 3 months or so
I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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overthinkingme said:
I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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lol i really hate the "Mytouch" name...
which genius came up with that??
it makes the Glacier sound cheap and a "iPhone copycat" even though it's far from that...
aznprodgy said:
mighty devilish arent we??? lol
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Shhh "THEY" are watching...
I'm new to the MyTouch 4g, I've only had it for 24 hours or so, but I have to say that I like the phone more than I thought I would. I'm primarily a Nexus One/Nexus S user, but the MyTouch compares nicely to the Nexus One. Rooting was easy, and the phone feels much faster than many newer generation phones. Using physical buttons takes some getting use to, but overall I think it's one of the best purchases I've made in a while. Strangely enough I purchased it primarily to use in Europe/Spain, so it'll be interesting to see how it holds up to that task.
whoa whoa whoa hold on there cowboy, i never said you weren't here for a long time. I just had the notion that you were, but I was confused by your post count, hence the, you Speak as if you've been here for a long time, not, You ACT as if you've been here longer than i have blah blah blah (lol). And that you have been. I'm not questioning your credibility or anything oh mighty one (lol) I completely agree with you on every aspect that the mt4g is an awesome phone, trust me on that I still have one that i mess around with thats why I still frequent this section.
I wasn't attacking your posts or anything. Like i said, i was confused on the way you stated things and how YOUR release dates of phones didn't match the official release dates. Thanks for clearing that up btw... any hookups haha jk.
But don't go and assume I follow the trends and go by quadrant scores and stuff; I actually do the exact opposite example. The only reason why I'm using the amaze isn't because of the dual core processor. I actually got it for a really good deal on CL for $350 in mint condition. I jumped on it. But anyways It's just the small stuff I like about the amaze, especially the camera functionality, and the ridiculous 18mbps speed i hit from time to time. other than that, people shouldn't go out and jump and get an amaze right away. I told many not to bother because development is still in the baby stages and you should save your money until the price drops.
And do you know what computer im using right now?? an AMD64 X2 5000+ black edition. you remember those? lol
I don't even remember how we got into this mess, I wasn't vouching for dual cores, I agreed with everyone here LOL. I was just confused about your release dates tis all