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I must say, I still love this phone!

I've had this phone since it came out in November and usually me being the tech whore that I am would get bored really quick and lust for the next big thing. As of now, I'm still loving this phone. I've rooted, on CM7, configured my screens the way I like it and sometimes I notice me touching and holding the phone just for the sake of it. Could this finally be love?? I feel like I just found a great girl and stopped going out trying to get with club chicks. lol!
Even when I go to the tech sites and checking out the new phones coming out in Barcelona, I'm like meh, I got a good "girl" at home, I'm not lusting after them. Damn, I must be getting old! hahahaha!

Yeah I said the same thing. Why did sense have so many features from espresso with the sliding bars and such only phone I even consider was the desire s cause it reminded me of the nexus one.
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i share the same love as u guys. it's simple, the device meets our needs for an internet phone, and more, once rooted. how can u not fall in love with it? if u get a fully functional one, i mean.

I love this phone too! No other phone can compare yet. I'm like you, I always go for the newest toy but I've been holding on. However, the Optimus 2x might win me over.

Normally I am looking for a new phone by now (always like the latest tech) but not so much with this phone. It might take the next mytouch to get me away from my current one. I've said this many times, this phone just works.

Same here, I've changed phones a lot recently, jumping on the newest one out. At this point though, I'm acknowledging more that this phone can do pretty much everything the newest ones out can do.
About dual cores, I say "Eh.." Higher megapixel camera? Eh.. NFC? That won't be useful until maybe late this year.
Until something groundbreaking comes out that this phone can't do or do well, I'm sticking with it.

Yeah, this phone is rockin'. Even a lot of the newer phones being announced are still below spec compared to this phone - even more so when rooted, devoid of bloat, and OCed. It'll probably take a year before this thing is made "obsolete." This and the HTC Thunderbolt are the most exciting phones right now IMO.

agreed. im so happy i got to own a good one in the end. it freakin flyes.

i love my phone....

I agree 100%. My wife often tells me I'm cheating on her with my phone, my on reply is, "Sorry babe it's the other way around, I'm cheating on my phone with you." Drives her nuts. I gave her my Vibrant and traded my HD7 to get the myTouch, and I'm not getting rid of "her" anytime soon...
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Bmore_Shag said:
I agree 100%. My wife often tells me I'm cheating on her with my phone, my on reply is, "Sorry babe it's the other way around, I'm cheating on my phone with you." Drives her nuts. I gave her my Vibrant and traded my HD7 to get the myTouch, and I'm not getting rid of "her" anytime soon...
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I'm thinking about getting an hd7 why didn't you like it?
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hd7 was boring to me, only two screens and the only customization you could do is change the color and add tiles....
id say the only kewl feature was having xbox live on it and being able to play games and unlock achievements....
the OS is nice and smooth but just plain boring for me......i wanted to get rid of the phone so bad that i traded the phone for a brand new MT4G and 100 cash....

Bmore_Shag said:
I agree 100%. My wife often tells me I'm cheating on her with my phone, my on reply is, "Sorry babe it's the other way around, I'm cheating on my phone with you." Drives her nuts. I gave her my Vibrant and traded my HD7 to get the myTouch, and I'm not getting rid of "her" anytime soon...
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I did the same exact thing. Trade the hd7 for this phone and I'm more than happy with it.
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i think HD7 it kinda big

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I'm thinking about getting an hd7 why didn't you like it?
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As a hd7/windows phone 7 user, i say go for it
it is a great phone and much more than 2 screens and you will love the experience with it vs android
and the social networking aspect of wp7 is definitely much better then what android has to offer(unless u get a blur device)
most ppl saying no to the hd7 are biased towards android
and if it's too big, that's why they have different variations of phones

EmceeGeek said:
I love this phone too! No other phone can compare yet. I'm like you, I always go for the newest toy but I've been holding on. However, the Optimus 2x might win me over.
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I was holding out getting the mt4g for a long time because I knew there was something better right around the corner (isn't there aways something right around the corner hah). Once I heard the rumors of the optimus 2x coming to tmobile, u knew u was right to wait. But then tmobile ran the free mt4g promotion last week. It was too good a deal to pass up, so I jumped on it. No regrets.
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As a hd7/windows phone 7 user, i say go for it
it is a great phone and much more than 2 screens and you will love the experience with it vs android
and the social networking aspect of wp7 is definitely much better then what android has to offer(unless u get a blur device)
most ppl saying no to the hd7 are biased towards android
and if it's too big, that's why they have different variations of phones
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And ur not biased to wp7? Lol I actually don't care that much but I am curious to the advantages of wp7? I will never leave Android but I am just wondering?
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After using plenty of windows mobile phones it has discouraged me to even look at another one...even the new win7 phones
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Win7 Phone OS is just plain boring to me coming from android there's no customization you can actually do maybe if we give the OS a year or so they'll be able to step it up and listen to the community. I get the feeling Win7 users are mostly coming from BBs.

Hmmmmmm, has anyone upgraded from a HD2?
I had a HD7 and it's just sad. No ability to customze anything.
So, I kept my HD2. I install ROMs as often as I change clothes. But, it is getting old.
I really want a Robot native device that performs well and has 4G capability.
The wife has a Vibrant and holly crap. That thing is the bigest pile of crap. I feel bad that I got it for her. It's slow, the XDA Support sucks since no one really seems to like it.
I been seeing the MyTouch 4g and it seems intersting.
Thoughts?

G2x or Sensation?

So I have an upgrade coming in the second week of june, I have the my touch 4g but my my touch slide is eligible for the 2 year upgrade. Do I get the g2x, wait and see if the sensation comes out when its supposed to, or sick with my touch 4g? Or even possible see if the galaxy s2 comes to tmobile? Just want done opinions! Thanks!
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Not another one of these threads...

I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.

Say no to sense
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Kidshyy said:
I read somewhere that said the HTC Sensation's bootloader is locked. Though it's not impossible to unlock it but it will be difficult and it might take awhile.
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Engadget had a post today saying that HTC was considering unlocking the bootloader.
In a market where the (good) phones are currently even so far as specs are concerned, a company would be shooting themselves in the foot by restricting a system that the others are leaving open.
My 2 cents.
My other 2 cents is if you can wait, then wait. Play with the Sensation when it comes out. You like it, buy it. You don't, buy the G2x.
My last bit of change, if you are content for the time being with the phone you have, don't jump for either until at least a month after the Sensation has come out. Right now, the G2x user experience for the majority of us is frustrating and I can only imagine the Sensation will be the same. Just wait and see what comes of both of them.

Get all of them!!!!! :d:d:d:d:d

I posted a TON of information why I didn't like the Sensation. The encrypted locked bootloader was high on the list but here are others:
-The Tegra 2 is like 33% more powerful then the dual-core snapdragon
-HDMI/microUSB = No HDMI Out + Charging (since no TV's support the MDLP yet)
-Locked encrypted Bootloader + New Sense = Mercy of HTC for bug fixes
-NVidia pushing devs for enhanced Tegra Apps = No go on non-Tegra devices
-Lower Res Front Camera
It does look like a sexy phone though. We'll see what problems it has out of the box compared to the G2x.
The G2x does have its problems but Tegra chips are new. Most work pretty well out of the box. Most of the issues we have is from the phone shipping with a 2.2 Kernel and everyone is flashing the leaked 2.3.3 rom. The drivers and stuff get funky but we're expected to get an updated kernel soon (the OS was already leaked).
I would agree though that I would wait a few weeks. While the G2x is great, it would be best to know your options to what best suites you. The Sensation is due out soon and you can compare the two side-by-side.
If the bootloader was unlocked, I could "possibly" live with the other stuff.

Wait and see what our big gingerbread update looks like on the g2x because like someone said before, this has been a frustrating experience so far... once we get that bad boy out and assuming it is a stable, quality build with much better driver support then the sky is the limit with this device! it will be the tegra2 flagship phone for the next 18 months
few things about the sensation that bothered me from my n1, and this is an HTC issue, their external speakers are a joke to say the least, poorly positioned, horrible sound, never loud enough... the g2x's external speaker is pretty solid in my opinion. And the HTC cameras are nothing to brag about either. I saw a video of both phones doing 1080p recording and the Sensation had a horrible red-shift problem...

number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!

sarni84 said:
number 1 nicely put player911 and yo the g2x is a ****in beast i had alot of phones n this one is the fastest yea theres little problems here n there but they will get addressed with updates this phone is a dev magnet not so sure the sensation will be like that especially if htc doesnt to unlock the bootloader ...y the **** would they do that no one else does that just screams dont buy me ur at the mercy of htc n there never to come updates if theres bugs dude i say g2x all the way!!!!!!!!!
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Honestly, I love this phone but the lack of custom ROMs is starting to annoy me. I want a damn MIUI ROM or at least something other than CM7 and EaglesBlood (I love AOSP though but MIUI on top of AOSP would be perfect). HTC phones always seem to end up with the most development behind them and their touch panels are some of the most sensitive in the industry (quite unlike the G2x which annoys the hell out of me sometimes with how hard I have to press on it). I think the tides will start to turn on HTC development though with the locked bootloaders.
That said, between HTC, LG, and Samsung - I'd pick the Samsung. For one, HTC uses Snapdragon chips - Qualcomm has a long (very long) history of promising that their chips will do this, that, the third, and even the fourth - but they never come through. Tegra 3 is coming out this year though and that's going to be a beast to contend with - the Exynos from Samsung absolutely decimates the Tegra 2.
Build quality on my Captivate was phenomenal - I've never had an HTC phone with great build quality - and that's going all the way back to the PPC-6800. There have always been issues. This is my first LG phone and while I enjoy it a lot, the touch panel sensitivity is a huge issue when I'm gaming and really needs to be fixed.
Also, HTC tends to say that the phone has "x" amount of storage space but what really happens (like what happened with the Inspire) is they partition and format it in a way that means you get slightly less than half what they advertise. HTC also has a history of shoddy driver support.
The only pro I see with the HTC is how fast HTC does device updates - that said, they're always sloppy releases and devs have to take them apart anyway - add in the locked bootloader and I don't really see a lot of devs going that way. Also the TegraZone is quickly growing - developers are really taking to the Tegra platform and producing some astounding applications as a result. There is no Qualcomm or Samsung zone and Tegra-optimized applications will not run on another chipset.

+1 etherealremnant

Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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orangemonster said:
Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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Nothing for sure yet, I think only ATT has been confirmed

orangemonster said:
Thanks for all your answers so far, still, does anyone know if the GS2 will hit tmobile?
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There has been some rumors that T-Mo is skipping this one for the Hercules, which will be a 4.5" screen beast, but like jlevy said, nothing confirmed yet.

Galaxy S2 returned, preordered Sensation

Hi!
I returned my Samsung Galaxy S2 back to the store and am now waiting for the HTC Sensation. While the Galaxy S2 is a nice phone, I really despise the TouchWiz. Even with ADW Launcher EX & WidgetLocker mitigating the terribleness of the interface Samsung has built, the stock apps still are very uncomfortable to use - especially e-mail, messaging and calendar are lacking. And most of their other attempts at apps aren't any better - dismal at best.
The back cover is unpleasant to remove which is peeving if you like to switch the battery to a fresh one (although spare batteries are not released till mid-june) or regularly move between different countries and therefore like to change SIMs (like I do).
I also would have preferred a capacitive home-button, instead of a physical switch.
Other bugs (which will probably soon be patched) are bothersome as well, like the 3G data connection regularly stalling - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097612
Specs-wise I think having a higher resolution screen will be a very nice addition, the lower amount of RAM & internal storage probably won't be all that noticeable. I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
Are any other Samsung Galaxy S2 expatriates lurking on this board? What were your Galaxy-experiences, why are you now waiting for the HTC Sensation instead?

you are in for a bashing.. but good luck

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you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.

BarryH_GEG said:
Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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i dont banter and i have added constructive info. and he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2. and please dont class me with epsix. he is on his own with that. anyway lets see how well this thread goes because i can see it getting ugly. thats all i was saying. some of you guys act so high and mighty that it sometimes get annoying

I returned my SGS2 as well and got Sensation instead.
Sound quality wasn't very good even with Poweramp.
I had a big hope that supercurio will come up with a solution as he did with original SGS, but here what he tweeted
supercurio François Simond
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@kalpik Thanks, appreciated! I start to know my way in Yamaha's driver now. And tend to believe its a non-fixable hardware issue.
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supercurio François Simond
Ok I explored about everything. Clocks, Master/Slave, Effects. I now believe Yamaha messed up by designing a defective DAC for Samsung.
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Flawed, end of story. I'll still explore the external USB DAC option, but nothing related to the Yamaha #MC1N2 unless they fixed themselves
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supercurio François Simond @
@josejacas to my limited comprehension there is a flaw in an internal resampling/oversampling algorithm. Cannot be modified via this driver.
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supercurio François Simond
Of course you need to relativize what I say here. #GalaxySII sound is probably better than most other Android phones. But not iPhone or SGS
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I've lost my hope about GS2 will ever be a good music player like SGS.
Next Thing
I fully charged my SGS2 and turned on Google latitude (As i was travailing), my phone was in the belt pouch, after about three hours i pull the phone out to make a phone call i found my phone burning hot and battery was almost drained. Couldn't bare any more.
I came back home after few days, returned SGS2 and got Sensation.
Sensation is so far so good, Over all very satisfied.

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...he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2...
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.

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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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i completely agree with you.. but it will never happen because everyone has their opinion and that is what causes all of this nonsense. but fair is fair everyone has a preference but to force your preference on others really pushes my buttons. and you do have to admit they are other who go to other threads to bash others for what they want i do visit the sgs2 forums but out of respect i dont post there because i am not at this moment considering the phone but for knowledge i like to read how it is going.

Good decision.
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I'm agree with you good decision
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I disappoint... Galaxy S II is much better!
Since 2003 I'm a HTC sure user but now I have to disappoint at all with you and with HTC!
I'm very sorry the new sensation is just considered worse than Galaxy S II but we have to admit this is the thuth!
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
4) cameras: Samsung first one 8mpxl, second one (frontal) 2mpxl; for htc sens is 8mpxl the first one too, but 1.3mpxl the sencond one....
5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
I'm very sad to tell it but this time I'll change and I'll buy a Samsung...

Good decision OP, who cares about SamSux. I'll give give them 2-3 month and all hell will break lose in there. SamSux bashing SamSux, look at our development section phones isn't release and no clockwork mod yet and we have 3 roms already. That just tells you HTC is more superior than SamSux. Untill they change their filesystem, HTC will be prefer choice for dev community. Don't matter what spec they have.
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I loved the fact that the Galaxy S2 is a very sleek design, thin and light. But the drawbacks - especially in the software area - are very obvious. Their replacements of stock Google apps are, in general, not better but much worse than the original. Plenty of bugs still plague the software - the current version of Music player causes random reboots, data connection is stalling all the time.
Sense (from what I could test on colleagues phones - mainly Desire HD) seems much more thought out and usable to me. I will, still, probably switch to a stock Android ROM, should one arise. But I don't want to be dependent on that.
paocavallo said:
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
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While AMOLED certainly does produce excellent black levels and saturated colours (maybe even oversaturated), after owning a Nexus One with AMOLED since release I do think the drawback of the technology is the inevitable screen burn-in you get after a few months of use. Nothing that is really bothersome, but LCD technology certainly does have its advantages (besides the higher resolution)
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2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
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Considering the high RAM usage of Sense, 1GB would have been nice - but still, 768MB should be plenty.
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3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
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The actual available application memory on the Galaxy S2 is about 2GB, the rest is formated as an internal SD card. In my situation, I typically have about 500MB of app space used - 2GB would have been a nice, but that will still leave me with plenty of headroom once my Sensation is here. A 32GB SD-card will take care of all other storage problems (mainly podcasts, music).
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5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
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This will vary greatly, but the battery access cover on the Galaxy S2 is very flimsy and uncomfortable to remove. I always carry a second battery for my Nexus One, I will do the same for my Sensation. Changing batteries on the Galaxy S2 (as soon as replacements are available in stores) will be a hassle.

i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use

ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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You may get flamed by some of the fanboys, but at the end of the day it's all about what feels good to YOU and stuff the rest. I again prefer the more solid feel and try to avoid "cheap" plasticky feel, plus have been put off by plenty of users in many forums I've been to who knock Samsung's lack of updates. Hopefully for you they sort this out. Good luck with your choice
I probably still have a month or 2 before the Sensation is available here, and am hoping for some positive news re the bootloader saga.

ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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epsix said:
Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?

rd_nest said:
Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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There you goes again troll, this man use to have Sensation but dont like it so he bought SGII, I wish him well with his purchase just don't come back here and be a SamSux troll just like you idiots.
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I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
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What do you mean? The HTC sensation doesn't have HSPA+.
I thought they said "runs on 4G network".
http://blog.t-mobile.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unveils-its-most-powerful-handset/

I currently have a G2x as well as the Atrix. Ordered the Sensation and the SGS2 as well. Been using both the G2x and the Atrix for a while now and so far, I'm inclined towards the Atrix even though it has the locked bootloader simply because Ive had too many random reboot issues, freeze issues with the G2x (even though I've returned it twice) and I'm not concerned about the light bleed issue.
Once I've received the SGS2 and the Sensation (This Tuesday woohooo!!), I'll have all 4 to test with side by side. Will narrow it down to the top 2 and those are the ones I'm keeping I usually have 2 phones (1 work, 1 personal). If anyone has any suggestions or want me to look at/compare something in specific, let me know.

It's funny..... These [email protected] trolls still lurking in our thread searching for every details to start **** up? My my..... Go flash some TouchCrap will ya.. LMAO
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Breakthrough phone

We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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i agree, the phone is phenomenal, but the major concern is all the bloatware hogging ram, and the NON STOP data because of them...
not to mention, most HTC users here are used to 100% accesable hardware/software, mostly thx to teh devs tho, and NOT HTC.
they made a promise they couldnt keep, and YET AGAIN, the devs beat em to it
#teamwin should rename to HTC, LTD.
Hate
The
Corporation,
Love
The
Device!

I'm with you on that I love the device people are looking for the smallest problems though and complaining. I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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bigpopapat said:
I understand saying something about rooting or bloatware but if your swipe don't work download a different keyboard or don't use it.
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hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire

Solidus_n313 said:
hahaha, that thread was a headache
on top of that, for all concerned users, if you dont like sense, WTF would you buy HTC's flagship fone with the first iteration of 3.0 on a fone?!?
if you want cyanogen right away, get an incredible S, or be patient.
thats all there is to it.
im just as pissed as the next guy about HTC's bull**** approach to this bootloader fiasco, but really, did you think that they would actually release it before the community? not a chance, they still havent OTA'd GB for desire
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i been saying this for the longest

not really (but no flame intended)
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02

steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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CUZ STONE COLD SAYS SO! sorry dude ... had to.
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steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation

@ running sloth: np. I have been seeing that a lot lately, though my name is in homage to the original Steve Austin, the 6 million Dollar man.

not really, again...
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no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.

steve austin said:
though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC

you might be on to something...
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you also gotta keep in mind that these phones most of the time hit overseas first, so essentially the sensation was out before we got our hands on it , it seems to me an update to the software between now and then is over due , remember the commercials ,the sensations camera was supposed to be the first to have point and click ,so does that mean the camera on the my touch is just an updated version of the sensations camera ....who knows ,but i am with you we could go on all day with this , all im saying is we should have done had an update and IMO thats poor customer service coming from HTC
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Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...

steve austin said:
Though it is not my intent to go in on htc, you are right. However, from the updates the evo 3d has already received and the specs, it is becoming clear (to me at least) that the sheer volume of customers Sprint has dictates that htc pays more attention to them and their happiness. By design or on consistent coincidences, there has appeared to be a difference in the phones and the updates they get over t-mo. This is not related to the topic, i know, but since you brought it up...
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I made a post saying the same thing and got flamed..ha.
It's only the amount of devices affected and customers out of that amount affected that gets HTC to respond and quite simply "Sprint don't play that sh*t" in a nutshell. To be non-technical.
T-Mobile is on self-destruct right about now I might have to say. Sad part is its NOT intentional. I do however feel it's unfair to ignore others who are having issues.
My personal example of issues:
Device 1: Returned due to dead pixels like freckles.
Device 2: Returned Random signal drop not tower related
I'm now on device 3 and i have had it for 4 days...The power/wake button has "con-caved" on one side and today my touch screen stopped responding and i can barely unlock the screen now. I can barerly swipe left and right...I have NO apps downloaded other than Tweetdeck and XDA so IDK what could be causing it.
So I agree about the "senseless" (for lack of a better word) babbling about dumb stuff in here but some of us do have issues.

It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.

bigpopapat said:
We have what's considered a breakthrough phone we are going to have to give HTC sometime to get it right. If you get frustrated its your own fault. I haven't had any problems with my device. Anybody else feel the same way.
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I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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Hoggles said:
It was not long ago at all that HTC said they would be changing their policy on bootloaders. People get WAY to uptight when it doesn't happen right away. HTC never said when it would happen. Ya gotta give corporations time....end of story. If their NEW phones don't have unlocked loaders in say 6 months, then people have the right to ***** and call foul.
HTC has done NOTHING wrong. Period.
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...even thought they went out of their way to say that the evo3D was going to be S-OFF :/
also, htc did nothing wrong by locking the bootloader, but where they DID go wrong is how they expressed their dedication to their customers and will unlock, then completely disappeared...
not to mention they have pushed many updates to the evo3D, and one for sensation, yet no S-OFF, AND they have a new phone coming out again! the pint size sensation, it has 50% specs of S4G...
...quietly disappointing

mancuk29 said:
I've tried swype shame it doesnt work only downside to a good handset what keyboard do you guys suggest I'm using vlingo keyboard at moment. .. same we can't get emoji to
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Try ultra keyboard. It has arrow keys and a host of other great features.

steve austin said:
no, i don't agree at all. HOWEVER, i understand from your OP premise that you have had no problems. Congrats. Therefore, i would expect a zen-like experience from you thus far. Those with real, persistent issues - that came shipped with the phone - are in no way at fault.
Some people are paying, out of pocket, retail, the price of a tab or pad. The have the right to "expect" a certain amount of quality. That is only reasonable.
With regards to the HTC "breakthrough" claim. Ummm, no. Spec wise, outside of the 8 mp camera (which the original Evo had LAST YEAR and 1080 recording, The evo 3d is - on paper - the true breakthrough phone than the sensation. Battery, internal memory and RAM. So, instead of pushing a phone to meet a deadline, craftsmanship and a reliable product at the time of sale would be nice for what is being claimed to be a "flagship" phone.
With that said, people are going to have to suck it up with regards to the bootloader and really opening up the phone. On this we do agree. Its been known for a while the Sensation was locked and if you still bought it its on you (and me cuz i have one).
I am all for supporting htc cuz i am brand loyal, but some things are not going to be accepted just because i am a fan. HTC's profits are massive. they even tout as much. this should, on some level, translate into all high-end phones across all carriers. Some things simply fall at their feet not the paying customer. And again, i have a Sensation and don't have any of the problems people are talking about. My .02
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+1 GREAT POST
Sensation a breakthrough phone?
COME ON! WAKE UP!
LOL
tigerz0202 said:
no your wrong , this was the first phone where sense 3.0 was implemented ,so there fore thats the breakthrough ,evo is a breakthrough with the 3d camera ,which imo is gimmiky ,evo quite simply got an updated version of the rom that is on the sensation, its HTC'S fault for not responding fast enough with an update to fix the issues on the sensation
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Sense 3.0 was on the Desire HD before sensation released!
Plus its much faster on Desire HD then on the Sensation [email protected]
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though gimmicky the EVO 3D - FIRST/close to first 3d phone of its kind - is a "breakthrough". the new Mytouch coming out, which T-mo is hailing as THE most advanced camera on a smart phone is a "breakthrough". The sensation is NOT the first multimedia phone -_-. It doesn't have THE best speakers, THE best surround sound, THE best screen, THE most on board storage capacity for all the media you house. Furthermore, Sense 3.0 is NOT a breakthrough. it is an "improvement" over the previous version. If the Evo 3D came out two days before the Sensation would it have beat the Sensation to the "breakthrough" mark? No. They both run it. But, this is where i bow out. I make no money off of fighting for or against htc. I humbly agree to disagree my friend.
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+1
Evo3D is the TRUE BREAKTHROUGH!
I Cannot understand how Sensation Owners think the Sensation stands a chance against the Evo

G2x hit eol....

http://dlvr.it/14gtbY this is sad news for all of us G2X owners.
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Bull****. Never again.

wow the end came way to quick... what about ics? do the g2x have a upgrade in it's future? lets waite and see.

What are they replacing out phones with now?
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who cares ? main things is that its supported by CM

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What are they replacing out phones with now?
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As far as i've see some people are getting the sensation 4g as a replacement, and sadly because it hit EOL, there will be no more updates supported by T-mo.
LG can still release updates, but they won't be official, and as far as we all know there won't be updates from LG either.
And that is it, no more LG products for me.
LG NEVER AGAIN.

Nvidia and LG NEVER again. Sucks
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What a f%&@ joke! Hopefully i can get enough money for this pos to pay for breaking t-mo contract!
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!

People that are members of XDA shouldn't really be upset with this news. The G2 and MT4G hit EOL like 6-8 months after release and look at how those two phones are doing. Dev and ROM's are still steadily being pumped out on those two phones.
I know we don't have that many devs but the this news doesn't affect oru phone in any way considering we mod it to our liking anyways. Plus I never expected LG to update this phone to ICS, and if they did, would probably take more than 6 months. We'll just have to rely on the CM team like most phone modders do. We'll be fine.

I agree, its just the way android phones are. If people quit buying phones that arent worth buying in the first place, they would be forced to put out way better phones and eol would take longer to happen. Its just a gimmick to get consumers to spend more cash look at the sensation, sensation xl, amaze 4g. All basicaly the same phone with slightly different specs yet we the consumers spend the cash and continue to let these greedy companies make subpar phones not worth an upgrade to. I didnt choose the g2x hoping lg and nvidia would support it, xda already does that!
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d12unk13astard said:
I agree, its just the way android phones are. If people quit buying phones that arent worth buying in the first place, they would be forced to put out way better phones and eol would take longer to happen. Its just a gimmick to get consumers to spend more cash look at the sensation, sensation xl, amaze 4g. All basicaly the same phone with slightly different specs yet we the consumers spend the cash and continue to let these greedy companies make subpar phones not worth an upgrade to. I didnt choose the g2x hoping lg and nvidia would support it, xda already does that!
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Whooo who who +1 amen

I hate to beat a dead horse here, but decisions like this will probably be the majority of the reasoning of why I have begun thinking about swapping to an Iphone. Yes, the may not be exactly fast at upgrading the hardware of the phone to whats considered current. But, how long has the 3G been out? And it is still getting software updates.
LG - I love your tv's, but you can keep your damn phones.

HarveyStyles said:
I hate to beat a dead horse here, but decisions like this will probably be the majority of the reasoning of why I have begun thinking about swapping to an Iphone. Yes, the may not be exactly fast at upgrading the hardware of the phone to whats considered current. But, how long has the 3G been out? And it is still getting software updates.
LG - I love your tv's, but you can keep your damn phones.
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agreed, i'm switching to the iphone when my contracts runs out. hopefully sooner
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I would say it's more perceived obsolescence, since the device still functions just as good as it did on day one.
I'm pretty upset about this though. Granted I got this device for free...but I'm already kinda tired of it.

I am not sure I understand. Does EOL status affect the quality or use of the phones we already? Does it suddenly make the phone unusable? Does it stop anyone to get his phone fixed under warranty?
EOL just mean they are not selling it any more. Not abandoned support-wise. Also if they are not going to update it to ICE, stay out of EOL doesn't change it any better anyway.
FYI. The car you are driving is probably EOLed, too. So are most appliances in your home.

I'm with a lot of people in here so far, this doesn't bother me at all. Even if there is no official update to ICS then we will still have it eventually anyway. My G2x more than likely isn't going to die before I upgrade to something better later this year anyway...

stephenju said:
I am not sure I understand. Does EOL status affect the quality or use of the phones we already? Does it suddenly make the phone unusable? Does it stop anyone to get his phone fixed under warranty?
EOL just mean they are not selling it any more. Not abandoned support-wise. Also if they are not going to update it to ICE, stay out of EOL doesn't change it any better anyway.
FYI. The car you are driving is probably EOLed, too. So are most appliances in your home.
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Yeah but my car is not closed source, i can take it apart, put it back together, update engine/exhaust/etc.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!

Why all the hand-wringing? It's not like this is completely unexpected. How many here are runing the tmo stock rom? I would bet not many.
ICS will be here soon enough. My question is if the phone is EOL, would LG and/or Nvidia be more likely to release the needed bits and pieces our devs so badly need? It is "old" technology now so maybe that is a possibility.
I guess if I had to have ICS today I could always pull out my battle tested HD2.

Think of it this way guys - this makes your G2X a rare gem in the android world.

I havent even had the phone that long(got it oct 2011), but its been bugging me since a week or having it. random reboot and shutdowns. Freezes ect.. Doesnt matter what rom oe kernel same problem. I believe the phone is overheating or the chip things its overheating and is locking up/ shutting down.
But its time to lay this phone to rest. Im moving on to a galaxy s2 in 2 months.
I believe this phone would have lasted longer if it didnt have the problems it has and if lg released the source code for updates.
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Think of it this way guys - this makes your G2X a rare gem in the android world.
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so why can i only get $70 for my mint g1? Tech moves so fast that last month stuff become old news