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I see alot of question from n1 users asking if the upgrade from n1 is a good choice. I also see alot comparison to the iPhone 4 and Nexus one. How come I don't see any comparison to the HTC Evo? Is the galaxy s not in the same level for comparison. I thing the galaxy is much better then the Evo. Lighter, brighter and faster. I mean running on eclair. I know now they had the froyo update. But I think once galaxy s gets froyo, this thing will fly. Even the just announced HTC desire HD/ace, will not compared to the galaxy s. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I just think galaxy s is a great android device. Then again just my thought. What you guys think.
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Probably because the Evo is a CDMA phone and can't be used on ATT. Also, Sprint hasn't released their Galaxy S variant, so those guys don't have anything to compare yet!
This thing, with the speed fix, utterly kills anything else on the market.
The N1 got about a 2x speed boost just from Froyo, so I'd expect a speed fix PLUS Froyo on this Galaxy S will be unstoppable.
Friend of mine has the Evo. It's high end along with the Droid X, etc... But the Galaxy S is just "the best" and the Evo can't top it.
a "non-quantitative" comparison - a buddy came over yesterday and had his Evo 4G with him - and asked to play with the vibrant
when he first saw the display (i set up that live "waves" wallpaper), his jaw dropped - then i had him hit the avatar movie, for the hey of it - jaw stayed in the lowered position
he knew about the GPS problem we've been dealing with, but when i said -'now you know why i've been hoping / holding out for a fix to the gps problem", he understood
I know he left here weighing the cost of a changeout to Epic 4G when it hits spring
there's no comparison on display, none - and the speed ( i don't have a ton of apps installed so there's no lag) -
the UI, ie TouchWiz or whatever it's called, that's up in the air still but we'll see what 2.2 does
larryccf said:
a "non-quantitative" comparison - a buddy came over yesterday and had his Evo 4G with him - and asked to play with the vibrant
when he first saw the display (i set up that live "waves" wallpaper), his jaw dropped - then i had him hit the avatar movie, for the hey of it - jaw stayed in the lowered position
he knew about the GPS problem we've been dealing with, but when i said -'now you know why i've been hoping / holding out for a fix to the gps problem", he understood
I know he left here weighing the cost of a changeout to Epic 4G when it hits spring
there's no comparison on display, none - and the speed ( i don't have a ton of apps installed so there's no lag) -
the UI, ie TouchWiz or whatever it's called, that's up in the air still but we'll see what 2.2 does
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LOL, I did the same thing with Avatar (loaded myself on the Captivate) to an iPhone user the other day.
The problem with the Epic 4G is it'll be bigger, heavier, bulkier than the other candybar variants.
I also didn't really notice much lag but I must say in-app performance is vastly improved with an EASY PIE lag fix that takes you two minutes (assuming you've got ADB working, etc). Push 3 files to it, then run 1 of them, reboot, done.
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I see alot of question from n1 users asking if the upgrade from n1 is a good choice. I also see alot comparison to the iPhone 4 and Nexus one. How come I don't see any comparison to the HTC Evo? Is the galaxy s not in the same level for comparison. I thing the galaxy is much better then the Evo. Lighter, brighter and faster. I mean running on eclair. I know now they had the froyo update. But I think once galaxy s gets froyo, this thing will fly. Even the just announced HTC desire HD/ace, will not compared to the galaxy s. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I just think galaxy s is a great android device. Then again just my thought. What you guys think.
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The better comparison would be the Evo vs The Samsung Epic, since these are both CDMA phones that run on Sprints network. But yes, I agree the Galaxy S line of phones are the cream of the crop hardware wise and don't get the attention like HTC or Apple devices.
With the exception for one's sotrware/ui preference, there is no comparison with the hardware. The Galaxy S is simply better.
Google and Samsung are at the center of this rumor coming straight out of left field that claims they will be announcing the Nexus Two running Android 2.3 at a press conference on November 8th. If this rumor holds water, then this is truly something that nobody expected. The original Nexus One may have been dubbed the true “Google Phone,” but the fact of the matter is that HTC was the phones manufacturer. The device didn’t sell as expected, as it was only available online. It never reached the retail channels that Google claimed it would eventually. The phone was even slated to hit Sprint and Verizon but was shelved when similar (and more impressive) Android handsets hit the market. If this will be the first Android phone to run on 2.3, then this should be a phone worth some serious attention. This very well could be the software branded Gingerbread, even though other rumors had it as version 2.5 or even 3.0. The rumor also says that the phone will be coming to multiple networks. So to summarize, the Nexus Two is supposedly going to be produced by Samsung. Any of you Galaxy S users out there pissed? I mean, you guys are still on 2.1 at the moment, although 2.2 is surely around the corner. Then again, this is a rumor so it could turn out to be just a crock. But hey, November 8th is only a week and a half away. Tell us what you think down below, and let the rumor mill start churning.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-and-Google-to-announce-Nexus-Two_id14227
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Didn't google recently announce there would never be a nexus 2?
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Didn't google recently announce there would never be a nexus 2?
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o.o link/source?
Oh not Samsung. I've had Galaxy S im my hands it is a very good phone (mostly because of the hummingbird processor ) but its all plastic and looks "iphonish", HTC on the other hand have better quality build but cheaper performance. I do hope that Google will dictate what Nexus 2 should look like and that it will not be all plastic!
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Oh not Samsung. I've had Galaxy S im my hands it is a very good phone (mostly because of the hummingbird processor ) but its all plastic and looks "iphonish", HTC on the other hand have better quality build but cheaper performance. I do hope that Google will dictate what Nexus 2 should look like and that it will not be all plastic!
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The best and the only screen SAMOLED is made by Samsung and nor HTC or Motorola have access to it. The biggest problem with Nexus 1 is the crappy thouchscreen, so it would make ALOT of sense to go with Samsung and use its SAMOLED2 (2gen samoled has higher resolution) technology.
A Samsung manufactured NEXUS TWO with an extraordinary processor & a superb AMOLED screen is just way too awesome , If the same is sold in stores instead of the web & that too worldwide instead of just one launch country it could be the most successful android handset ever .
I have a Vibrant, and I'm not pissed because if this is true I'll be selling it and pre-ordering this phone.
I do however, wonder who owns the rights to call the phone a Nexus. I had figured it was named/owned by HTC, but if this is true I guess not.
Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
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Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
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I thought there was a different phone that was labeled the Nexus S?
It definitely looked different from the Giorgio Armani Cappy.
veive said:
Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
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I don't think Eric Schmidt reads the forums on XDA so maybe you should tell him:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/15/eric-schmidt-shows-off-a-nexus-s-at-the-web-2-0-summit/
Google's CEO just showed the Nexus S, which is essentially the Nexus 1's replacement. Everyone is pretty positive that it is Samsung produced.
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I don't think Eric Schmidt reads the forums on XDA so maybe you should tell him:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/15/eric-schmidt-shows-off-a-nexus-s-at-the-web-2-0-summit/
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Now that was a good reply. You made me laugh out loud on that one!
OP I get what you are saying, but you picked a terrible example. The Giorgio Armani phone is just a rebranded captivate, while the Nexus S is a "unannounced phone" which has leaked all over the place. Now, the Galaxy 2 is a real rumor mill phone.
...nevermind yall already covered it...
veive said:
Ok, so I've seen several threads recently about a "Nexus S" or "Nexus 2" or something of that nature...
I take it with a pinch of salt, for a few reasons.
1) The Nexus one is less than 2 years old and thus is not due for a replacement.
2) The Nexus one was indeed an awsome phone, but it did not sell well.
3) we have seen the exciting Nexus Two become the boring Giorgio Armani.
So the moral of this story is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
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@ point 2) I doubt google really intended to sell millions of the phone, it would be stupid as all the other big names, Moto, Sammy, HTC proper would leave android as google would have an advantage.
The Nexus One was used to encourage other manufacturers to use:
- Faster processors (Snapdragon, Hummingbird, OMAP ...tick)
- Better Screens (AMOLED, SAMOLED, SLCD, WVGA ... tick)
- better design and optimisation (hmm....tick)
- Faster updates to the latest OS version (now thats the one I think didnt really come through)
Case in point, simply look at the phones preceding N1 (Hero, G1, mytouch ....pretty average phones...no offence) and post N1 (Droid X, Droid Inc, Desire, SGS)
I think thats a quite convincing success.
Oh and also to try and convince the US customer to buy outright...that didnt work either as Nokia can relate to.
Overall, the Nexus One was a success and didnt cannibalize android phone variety .... I'm no Google fanboy but it ****s me to tears when people use the N1 to say android sucks or the N1 failed ...... end rant.
The Nexus S was being touted by Eric Schmidt recently os yeah it exists....though I really dont see yet what google are trying to push harware manufacturers towards....I imagine its more a combination of hardware to run specific software e.g. credit card functionality, some sort of front camera related software etc
I actually watched the video of Eric Schmidt with the nexus s, when the interviewer mentioned that Schmidt said there would be no nexus 2, he responded by saying "yes, I said there would be no nexus TWO" (heavy emphasis on the word two) so yes, between this and how much this phone has been leaked, we can pretty much confirm it. Let's just hope it has at&t 3g like the vibrant
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Nexus S gets announced. Google CEO is using a phone that looks EXACTLY like the pre-renders of the Nexus S and then shows off the phone.
Coincidence? I think not.
hi there
i want to buy a phone i am confused between nexus s and samsung galaxy s i9000?
can you please suggest which should i buy and why ???
i have seen performance of sgs it a very nice phone dont know abt ns1
Kindly use the search feature please. We dont need another thread like this
*angry bird face*
aarif_ziaee said:
hi there
i want to buy a phone i am confused between nexus s and samsung galaxy s i9000?
can you please suggest which should i buy and why ???
i have seen performance of sgs it a very nice phone dont know abt ns1
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The main difference is going to be your update frequency (IMHO), but custom roms can fix that problem. Bounce around the two forums and see which you like better, head up youtube and watch review videos, check out the development going on for each, then make an educated decision as to which is best for you.
That's about all the input I'm interested in giving before echoing slowz request.
EDIT: I'm feeling generous, call it residual holiday cheer
[Q] Nexus S better dans GT-I9000?
Hi everyone.
I was wondering something about this new Nexus S....
I'm currently the owner of a Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000M From Bell in Canada.
Today at CES 2011 they said that the Nexus S will come to Canada.
I got 4 replacement for the GT-I9000M since August (in fact since october). The internal Memory Failed, The battery life was poor, 3 button recovery was not enabled, GPS innacurate, Hard time connecting it to my computer and all the stuff said in bad about this phone I got it.....
Since the Nexus S is almost the same (hardware speaking) I was wondering if all the bugs that the SGS suffer from was happening with the Nexus S?
Is the Partition Table is the same?
Do Internal Memory Fail once again?
Is there any issue with Recovery mode?
GPS problems?
Poor battery life?
Any Lag issue?
I really enjoy my SGS when it's not failing but the Nexus S attract me a little more since it got 2.3 and update straight from Google instead of waiting after the carrier "testing" the new rom...
So anyone having or tested both phone or can speak with experience in here?
Thanx
One of the main reason I don't want to get any trouble with the phone is that Samsung got the worst customer service ever seen in electronics (home appliances, tv, phones)...
so the less I have to deal with them the best it is.
Samsung said they are open the put it on the AWS network in canada so if the phone is good, this could be the phone that will make me switch from Rogers to Videotron
No offense, but you're asking in a Nexus S forum what phone we'd prefer. Most of us own a Nexus S. So what do you think the answer is going to be?
Frankly I am not sure why you are having so many problems. I have an SGS for work and it works great. I bought the Nexus S to replace my G1 and it's like a dream compared to my G1. You could always get one and try it out. If you don't like it, return it.
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The main difference is going to be your update frequency (IMHO), but custom roms can fix that problem. Bounce around the two forums and see which you like better, head up youtube and watch review videos, check out the development going on for each, then make an educated decision as to which is best for you.
That's about all the input I'm interested in giving before echoing slowz request.
EDIT: I'm feeling generous, call it residual holiday cheer
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In fact the same thread is on the GT-I9000 Q&A forum. I want to see on both sime your opinions.
But I was thinking that maybe someone here had or also have the GT-I9000 as secondary or previous smartphone. So I could get some feedback and difference
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In fact the same thread is on the GT-I9000 Q&A forum. I want to see on both sime your opinions.
But I was thinking that maybe someone here had or also have the GT-I9000 as secondary or previous smartphone. So I could get some feedback and difference
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I have both. GT i9000 was my main phone from July until I got the Nexus S.
They're both fine pieces of hardware.
Software-wise, the GT i9000 was a train wreck out of the box. The Samsung RFS file system introduces significant lag to the phone. I know some of the later "leaked builds" of Sammy firmware seem to have addressed this, but I'm not sure if you bought a new one that you'd get it. That means to make the i9000 a pleasurable user experience you must root it and put in custom kernels and "lag-fixes". If you're into that kind of thing, lots of support and options. If you're not, you will definitely prefer the out-of-the-box performance of the NS.
I much prefer the Nexus S physically. It looks and feels better. Has a bit more heft and doesn't feel like I'm going to drop it as much.
I prefer the standard four capacitive buttons on the NS, but miss the trackball of the N1 or physical home button of the SGS. On the SGS the home button is just like the iPhone button in that it will wake the device from sleep...only the power button does that on the NS.
The power button on the NS is a bit easier to hit one handed than on the SGS for some reason.
As I said, they're both fine phones. If you're a ROM flasher, then there are only two real determining factors in my mind that you should consider.
The first is how important is it to you that you have Google's flagship phone that is most likely to get software updates to the base OS fastest (if that's important the Nexus S is your choice).
The second is which network do you want to use, and which phone supports the best 3G speeds on that network. In the US, if you want AT&T 3G service, you must pick the i9000; if you want T-Mo 3G you must pick the Nexus S.
I'm not a huge fan of T-Mo as my primary carrier, so the SGS still has some allure to me, but if network wasn't an issue (ie., there was options for AT&T or Verizon Nexus S and i9000) then the Nexus S would be a no brainer!
Hello!
I've read all the comparison out there and I haven't really decided which one should I buy. I've read the hardware is the same but the benchmarks tests are showing different (the nexus always win?) Is the screen on the nexus worse due that it's not gorilla and that it is S-LCD ? I've heard that galaxy S has many lags and such, so my question is does nexus s have any "known bugs" ?
I really appreciate your answers!
ExtremeGMX said:
Hello!
I've read all the comparison out there and I haven't really decided which one should I buy. I've read the hardware is the same but the benchmarks tests are showing different (the nexus always win?) Is the screen on the nexus worse due that it's not gorilla and that it is S-LCD ? I've heard that galaxy S has many lags and such, so my question is does nexus s have any "known bugs" ?
I really appreciate your answers!
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Nice resurrection of a 9 month old thread...
The nexus will benchmark and generally run faster/smoother thanks to it's native EXT4 file system. The screen isn't worse, it's just more fragile than gorilla glass (though neither is likely to withstand a hard enough fall).
Get the Nexus. SGS has a slow moviNAND memory on which the app data partition is. Thats why it's laggy like ****. 2.3* brought improvement in RFS, so the conversion to EXT4 (lagfix) ain't needed/doesn't make a difference. Maybe it doesn't show that much, if you don't install many apps, but when comparing SGS and NS side by side, everyone could noticed that lag on SGS. GPS is also worse and the build quality.
Maybe only thing I *could* miss is the AMOLED from SGS (on SLCD now), but on the other hand, AMOLED sucks balls on the sun, SLCD is much better. And that kinda is more important, then the black blacks.
Who cares what the HW specs tell you, or the benchmarks. It's hard to actually rate the phone, since no one can tell you the quirks of a device, if he ain't an experienced and technical knowledgeable user.
I know what I'm talking about, since I went from Desire to SGS in June, now I'm ****ing happy I could sold it and buy the Nexus. Everything works like a charm here, no need to flash 923 ROM's and fixes or whatever. I was constantly "improving" my SGS over 3 months, since I was never happy with it. Check the SGS forums, full of posts "how to improve that", "lagfix", "thisfix", blabla. Here on NS forums, it's rather dull (thank god).
Hope that makes your decision easier.
Thanks for your opinions! I bought the Nexus S today and it's awesome compared to my old Omnia II (če bi vedel, bi mi lahko kar po slo. povedal heh )
P.S. Just ignore the words in brackets, because I am from the same country as madd0g.
I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?
I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.
Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.
I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen
The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.
Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"
Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
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Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.
I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!
put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win
I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.