Why does the Nexus S seem to create such strong opinions that people feel the need to come on here and put it down and bore the pants off us about dual *yawn* core and the latest handsets? Is it misplaced inadequacy or are Nexus S really that bad?
First off, the Nexus S is a great device. I think the polarization factor comes from two directions, first is envy. The second was this vision that the Nexus device should be this flawless god of phones. It is not, it is a dev phone, a playground for people to experiment with, and most people don't really get that.
its bassically a Googles test rabbit or rat.
I haven't seen any negative topics about the Nexus S for about a month now. Maybe about certain aspects of Gingerbread, but that's it. You should have been here when it was first released. Man, it was annoying. As Kah-Neth said, some people think a Nexus S phone is the god of all phones or have to set a new standard for other manufacturers to follow.
IMO, NFC is going to be a standard which will be implemented in other phones soon enough. New processors such as dual cores isn't much of thing to set a standard for since a 1 ghz single core processor is good enough.
You missed the "Nexus S shines against the...." thread. Apparently there are people out there who dont even own an NS and whose sole purpose for posting on this board is to call us fanboys because we dare discuss on a NS board how the NS is a better device than these "superior" DC phones like the Atrix.
Seems to me that envy must play a part...if it was not out of envy for a high end, latest Google running frankly awesome device like a Nexus, certain people would be on the HTC wildfire forums or something droning on about how low end that device is (no disrespect to wildfire btw).
Seriously though, instead of being jealous, just save your pennies up and buy a second hand nexus S
Honestly I dont see why people envy this phone. I would have been content with keeping my g2, I feel like support between the g2 os and gingerbread is equal because we dont have alot of support as far as this os. This is why I'm currently in the move of trading for a iphone 4 they have constant updates and support whereas we are still waiting for support from skype who keeps backing out as well as other things that should be mandatory with the phones launch. When people see the phone I have they are more excited than me. I guess cause I'm rom'd out and dont have anything else to do with the phone. Who knows.
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Not only is there envy -- theres pomposity -- check this out from an unnamed nexus s owner i found whining somewhere off XDA
"I purchased a Nexus S under the assumption that Google would not be releasing a new version until a new iteration of Android was released. Now, with the rumors mounting that this may not be the case what if anything will be Google's response to users who already purchased a Nexus S? In similar cases, Apple has consistently offered refunds to consumers, will Google follow suit or will you choose instead to alienate some of your most loyal user base? I can honestly say that if the latter is true then I will be reconsidering continuing my support of the Android platform."
The balls on this dude... "if I cant have you... nobody else can"
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"I purchased a Nexus S under the assumption that ..."
The balls on this dude... "if I cant have you... nobody else can"
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Naaah, just stupidity, the stupidity of making unwarranted assumptions.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Assume
androidcues said:
Not only is there envy -- theres pomposity -- check this out from an unnamed nexus s owner i found whining somewhere off XDA
"I purchased a Nexus S under the assumption that Google would not be releasing a new version until a new iteration of Android was released. Now, with the rumors mounting that this may not be the case what if anything will be Google's response to users who already purchased a Nexus S? In similar cases, Apple has consistently offered refunds to consumers, will Google follow suit or will you choose instead to alienate some of your most loyal user base? I can honestly say that if the latter is true then I will be reconsidering continuing my support of the Android platform."
The balls on this dude... "if I cant have you... nobody else can"
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Yes that is my question. Where did I say anything about not wanting other people to have it? If that bothered me why not complain when the at&t version passed through the FCC. Nor did I ever say that Google should do something for me personally. I've owned my phone for over a month. I don't expect them to cut me a check. I do expect them to do something for the people who buy it close to the announcement. So now expecting morality from a company whose motto is "don't be evil" is pompous or ballsy?
Heck I don't expect them to do anything at all. Period. I posted that question to let Google know I was frustrated with this situation. If either of us is being pompous or ballsy it is you for making some pretty bold assumptions about what I meant.
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The answer is simple: expectations.
People expected very much from the Nexus S. It is a phone from Google after all. When the first rumors came, the Nexus S was going to be the first phone with dual-core, it would have Android 3.0, and it would be just awesome. When the Nexus S turned about to be something completely different, the crowd was dissapointed.
In that regard they were right. The Nexus S isn't very 'new' in terms of hardware. But as a smartphone it is very well build, and I'm not talking about the build quality. And that is what people seem to forget.
Also, the crowd showed the same reaction when the Nexus One was released. It wasn't really that special. But when the Nexus S was released, they were al saying: the Nexus One is so much better!
I don't know why everyone had that kind of expectations. Probably because it is a Google phone, and Google = Android. So it has to be good. Or something. But Google brought out a solid, unique phone, and I thank them for that.
the ns is fine for me. battery life is 100 times better than my vibrant, have flash support, ffc, quick updates, looks nice, fast. i could care less about dual core because i don't play games on my phone. anyway that's just my opinion.
and yeah, haters gonna hate. screw em.
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the ns is fine for me. battery life is 100 times better than my vibrant, have flash support, ffc, quick updates, looks nice, fast. i could care less about dual core because i don't play games on my phone. anyway that's just my opinion.
and yeah, haters gonna hate. screw em.
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I don't know why you would even want a dual-core phone if you don't play games. I do play games, but only games like Angry Birds, and the new released Chalk Ball! Simple games, yet very good looking and very fun to play!
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I don't know why you would even want a dual-core phone if you don't play games. I do play games, but only games like Angry Birds, and the new released Chalk Ball! Simple games, yet very good looking and very fun to play!
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Androyed you make me laugh, you should change your name to anti dual core Droid, lol....
NS rules and that's no lie
JD
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Androyed you make me laugh, you should change your name to anti dual core Droid, lol....
NS rules and that's no lie
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I'm not against dual-core! Certainly not. I think you misunderstood me. What I'm trying to say is that the 1Ghz processor in the Nexus S makes everything smooth: from swiping through homescreens to playing Angry Birds. So what can dual-core do for you then? Play better games!
Seriously, it is just the same as with computers. Only reason they get better is because of games. I've said that like a hundred times, but it is the truth.
I'm not against dual-core, I just think it's funny everyone always wants the latest hardware, even when the old hardware is still running fine!
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Is it misplaced inadequacy or are Nexus S really that bad?
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Its just trolling. Every single phone has some of it for a few months (exp: Atrix forums got trolled by Inspire users).
What made the Nexus S particularly a good target for trolls was that fact the Nexus One set a standard for Android handsets for an entire year. Google went to HTC and said "We want the best and brand new android phone hardware to push the industry and set a standard for the year to come"
Did Google do this same thing of asking for the best hardware for the Nexus S to set a standard for an entire year? Unfortunately no. Still a great niche phone for people wanting stock android but not a game changer by any means like the original Nexus.
Thats why people were pissed and made fun of the phone. They were looking at what it could have been and got mad once they saw the failed potential of the Nexus line so they decided to take out their frustrations on the forum by trolling...
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You missed the "Nexus S shines against the...." thread. Apparently there are people out there who dont even own an NS and whose sole purpose for posting on this board is to call us fanboys because we dare discuss on a NS board how the NS is a better device than these "superior" DC phones like the Atrix.
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Being an epic owner I'm here because I firmly believe the NS is superior to all other Nexus, HTC Snapdragon, or SGS phones....
If this Sprint Nexus S 4g comes true I'm dropping my epic in a heartbeat
Mytouch 4G is the iPhone4 executioner.
Why?
Rooted. Iced glaciar or cm
Amazing Good battery
1.7 ghz oclocking easily done with iced glacier.
768mb RAM.
Good beautiful display and screen size.
Solid build.
HTC.
Just saying
4G T-Mobile
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G2 is still my favorite. Modded battery SD card cynaogen has one.
Nexus s is sleek. Fast processor amazing screen . Im not jealous. I love Android.
Nexus S 5stars
G2 5stars
MT4G 5stars
Iphone 3/4 good phone for sheeple. Or thosr not nerdy or moms.
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Mytouch 4G is the iPhone4 executioner.
Why?
Rooted. Iced glaciar or cm
Amazing Good battery
1.7 ghz oclocking easily done with iced glacier.
768mb RAM.
Good beautiful display and screen size.
Solid build.
HTC.
Just saying
4G T-Mobile
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I agree, the MT4G is a very nice phone. I actually had one for a few weeks before switching to the Nexus S (never looked back), gave the MyTouch 4G to my mom -- she loves it to death.
I hated the face of the phone. Very ugly to me.
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Just as the title says really, interested to know if any of you have dropped your iPhone4 in favour of the Nexus S and if so are you happy with your choice?
I have a reason for asking this and it's for neither iPhone or Nexus bashing purposes
My brother did. He is loving the NS.
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I did. Reasons: tmobile promo data plan 1500 min, unl texts and data for 80.00 month.
Also love android. That being said, I miss media features and games of iOS. Also things I hate about att is the fact that you can't download a file bigger than 10 mb olvia 3g or the fact that youtube quality suck on 3g. And all of that after fork out 30 dollars a month. On t mobile you don't have any of those restrictions and you pay the same.
I decided to vote with my wallet ant give my money to tmobile ans google/ samsung.
Like I said, I really miss ios media features but I'm trying to live without ios. I understand that my reqsoning has more to do with carrier itslef rather than iphone 4, but all those things I mentioned above as a whole made me switch to nexus s and tmobile.
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One reason I almost did is I really liked the TV tube effect when you press the sleep button. Instead I ported it to the iPhone ;-) Watch here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIfSrPA6j6U
I did. Between the plan price and gingerbread I can say I'm totally satisfied.
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I switched over from iPhone 4 and Rogers (kinda like ATT even in terms of pricing) to the Nexus S on Mobilicity (40$ unlimited everything plan) but I kinda wish I hadn't now. Main reason is that I used to use FaceTime ALL THE TIME on my iPhone 4 and expected Google to back the Nexus S up with some kinda of video chat but they didnt and Tango is lacking...
may not be the same thing, but a friend of mine has an iPhone4 and i let him play around with my phone for a lil and he loves it, wishes he could switch
Thanks all, reason I ask is that I was considering going the other way! IPhone as stock would be a definite no but a jailbroken iPhone is another ball game.
Carrier aside, I'm buying sim free so its the £430 Nexus S I currently have or return and buy the £500 iPhone 4.
Really can't make up my mind!
why do you need to ask other people to give you an oppinon, im sure you can formulate your own.
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why do you need to ask other people to give you an oppinon, im sure you can formulate your own.
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Please don't get defensive just because I mentioned I MAY prefer the iPhone 4.
I'm not asking for anyone's opinion on whether I should switch, I'm asking those that HAVE switched (albeit the other way) if they are happy with their decisions.
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Please don't get defensive just because I mentioned I MAY prefer the iPhone 4.
I'm not asking for anyone's opinion on whether I should switch, I'm asking those that HAVE switched (albeit the other way) if they are happy with their decisions.
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Im not getting offended, ive owned iPhones in the past, but what im saying is that, your asking people if they have switched and what reasons, everyone has there own opinion on the devices, why not formulate your own,
there reasons/opinions may not reflect how you feel. Chances are if your debating on switching thats enough of a reason to go and get yourself a iPhone
I did and love it. I was expecting to miss the fluidity of iOS, but Gingerbread has surprised me despite the improvements I knew it had made in this area.
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your asking people if they have switched and what reasons, everyone has there own opinion on the devices, why not formulate your own,
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No, I am asking people if they have switched and if they are happy that they did so, I'm not asking for (or interested in) reasons and I am not asking specifically for opinions of either device.
Most people who have replied to this thread so far have understood my question, thankfully.
The Nexus S is a great device and I have barely touched my laptop in the time I have had it. The iPhone also has its merits and like anything its all swings and roundabouts!
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One reason I almost did is I really liked the TV tube effect when you press the sleep button. Instead I ported it to the iPhone ;-) Watch here:
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You were going to base your decision of switching based on a small effect
ranxoren said:
I switched over from iPhone 4 and Rogers (kinda like ATT even in terms of pricing) to the Nexus S on Mobilicity (40$ unlimited everything plan) but I kinda wish I hadn't now. Main reason is that I used to use FaceTime ALL THE TIME on my iPhone 4 and expected Google to back the Nexus S up with some kinda of video chat but they didnt and Tango is lacking...
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Fascinating. Obviously, you have friends and family with Mac's but you are the first person I've read that uses FT all the time. You came to rely on it that much?
I switched from iphone 3g to ns, and am living it.theres nothing major that I could on iphone that I can't do on ns. internationalization support (japanese) ime sucks on android, you have to rely on 3rd party support, but otherwise I'm very happy. love the notifications and tight google integration.
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I just got the NS as my first smartphone after reading about various devices for a while (and not having a new phone in like 4 years), and so far I'm just stunned by the transition from my old dumbphone. My final choice was between the iPhone and the NS, as I see both as being comparatively high end phones for the two OS's. A buddy of mine has the iPhone 4, which I played around with for a while, but I ultimately went with the NS because the general user experience doesn't feel so controlled. That said, as a smartphone newbie, I think they're both really impressive devices.
Also, my old carrier was ATT, and they were starting to annoy me for various reasons.
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Didn't ditch the iPhone, but ditched ATT for T-Mobile's more reasonably priced plans.
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One reason I almost did is I really liked the TV tube effect when you press the sleep button. Instead I ported it to the iPhone ;-) Watch here:
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thats a very nice. i will buy it if it can do this effect on the lock screen.
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Im not getting offended, ive owned iPhones in the past, but what im saying is that, your asking people if they have switched and what reasons, everyone has there own opinion on the devices, why not formulate your own,
there reasons/opinions may not reflect how you feel. Chances are if your debating on switching thats enough of a reason to go and get yourself a iPhone
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first of all. its nice to have people feedback. thats why these forum exists. sure everyone can formulate on his own. we are not stupid. try to get that. and try to understand that its a actually a smart thing to do to ask for people feedback before making your own. thats why its called feedback. maybe you can provide X Y points why you didnt or why you did switch etc. and the user find it valuable information where he agrees with you. dont act like a smart ass who knows everything.
to stay on topic. no i didnt . i had galaxy S and i sold it for iphone 4. simply because i think the ios is more polished device out of the box. with cydia its amazing phone. i play like a 2 hours at least of games on mobile these days so that was a plus for the iphone. plus the device it self as hardware look sexier in my eyes than galaxy S or nexus S " just personal, other people might not agree"
what i miss tho is the bigger screen of android 4 inch compared to 3.5.
also. i am waiting for CES, its in few days. many of the new phones are going to be annouced in that show. it will be intresting to see.
and on the another hand. this month the LG optimus 2x coming out. while i know its an LG device. it also has much superior hardware than nexus S. aka dual core processor. tegra 2 gpu from nvidia and 1080p video recording.
my advise is to you or to anyone who didnt buy the nexus S. is to wait. see whats coming, then decide. the only reason you would want a nexus S is if u want pure google experiance. and to get updates as soon as they come out " even tho this is bull****. nexus 1 was said to be also pure google experiance to get updates as soon google get them out. and yet, they still didnt get 2.3 . i assume the same thing will happen when google partner up with new company for another nexus phone and new OS. and nexus S owners have to wait for the OS to be released on their system much like what the nexus 1 users are doing. "
its nothing but a marketing crap. yay. i got 2.3....1 yay before anyone else... :/
I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?
I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.
Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.
I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen
The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.
Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"
Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
or
Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.
I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!
put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win
I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.
As much as I love how open android is I still think I may want to get an iphone 4. So can you guys give me some reasons that would make me not make this decision.
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ugh, why? This would be almost a waste of money. Consider that in the next 3-4 months a multitude of phones are dropping. For ex: iphone5, htc holiday (htc inspire hd), Samsung galaxy s 2, Lg Thrill, htc lead, Sony Xperia play, Samsung Attain....
I guess my question is, how would making the switch from Android to IOS honestly benefit you and your lifestyle? I prefer android simply because of the openness if I don't feel like sense then I got with cm7 if I feel like sense I flash a sense rom. With IOS you only get jail-broke or non jail-broke, in which some you can't even use i-tunes for apps, which i-tunes still has some apps that cydia doesn't. Not to mention almost all IOS apps are being ported to android.
Though I am just not a fan of apple; I personally don't see a reason to pay absurd amounts of money for something that is technologically behind the times, and over priced for the parts it contains. Take into consideration that everything but IOS is outsourced to other phone makers like lg and samsung.
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As much as I love how open android is I still think I may want to get an iphone 4. So can you guys give me some reasons that would make me not make this decision.
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I believe you would love the iPhone 4. I know I love mine. And I have Android and WP7. The iPhone 4 has the best battery life of all systems...purely amazing...and just works so well. It isn't as sweet as WP7, but it has all the features and is perfectly reliable. You'll love the apps for iOS as well. I'd say go for it. But keep Android also.
The Wife has one. I opt'd for the inspire because;
1. Cheaper
2. More horse power with the OC
3. More Customization.
4. Games are finally coming in droves for Android.
5. Custom Roms. After a Jailbreak what can you load on an Iphone? Nothing great. I guess you can wear your pirate eye patch, but that is lame....
6. Smaller screen. Ho Damn, I can't stand using the eyephone for internet browsing. Its to small and missing flash....
7. In the near future there will be awesome phones and the iphone 5. Why get last years model?
Ect, ect, ect, ect....
I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
Just my two cents
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I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
Just my two cents
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He has an inspire and has every right to ask us how we feel about the switch.
Anyway back on topic. I wouldn't get the iPhone. You will be unhappy with it in a month. iOS has terrible memory management and is SEVERELY limited. It has great battery life because you can't do anything with it lol
There is no true multitasking on the iPhone. My battery life would be great of I closed every app immediately after using it. And I just can not stand how safari reformats everything to what it thinks looks best.
The only thing the iPhone has on android right now is its camera and screen resolution. That's it.
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I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
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Worst first comment ever.
...Way to go!
Well I kinda agree. There are several threads already asking about the iPhone 4. I mean come on. You can Google it and hear it from the guys that review every phone imaginable and get their two cents. Were not here to tell you to keep your inspire,instead make your own choice. The layouts of both phones are everywhere to be found and why tell a guy the reasons not to leave when he owns a inspire already? If you love your android,keep it. You know the ins and outs of IOS and honestly its over priced rubbish that is created year after year with very little upgrades just to make them apple brainwashed idiots keep buying hoping for a change....not happening. Want my opinion? Steve jobs and his entire apple company can stick with mac books and that other crap but not cell phones. They are scam artists and copying basterds that deserve to go back in time and sit a few years in pelican bay Penn and made someone's woman. Just like Samsung,you expect more,yet get pointed into disappointed. My iPhone 4 lasted exactly 12 hours and 37 mins. Received it before ATT closed one night and had it back in the AM. If you want a iPhone,go ahead,try it out. If you need info,search youtube or Google and you already know details. Just my two cents
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Blasphemy
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for one you can OC the inspire to 1.99 Ghz and with the iPhone 4 the processor is always at 800 Mhz, it's 1 Ghz underclocked to 800Mhz just like all other ios processors
mattmiller said:
Well I kinda agree. There are several threads already asking about the iPhone 4. I mean come on. You can Google it and hear it from the guys that review every phone imaginable and get their two cents. Were not here to tell you to keep your inspire,instead make your own choice. The layouts of both phones are everywhere to be found and why tell a guy the reasons not to leave when he owns a inspire already? If you love your android,keep it. You know the ins and outs of IOS and honestly its over priced rubbish that is created year after year with very little upgrades just to make them apple brainwashed idiots keep buying hoping for a change....not happening. Want my opinion? Steve jobs and his entire apple company can stick with mac books and that other **** but not cell phones. They are scam artists and copying basterds that deserve to go back in time and sit a few years in pelican bay Penn and made someone's *****. Just like Samsung,you expect more,yet get pointed into disappointed. My iPhone 4 lasted exactly 12 hours and 37 mins. Received it before ATT closed one night and had it back in the AM. If you want a iPhone,go ahead,try it out. If you need info,search youtube or Google and you already know details. Just my two cents
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While I don't agree with how this was said (No swearing in the forums please) I agree with the the point r what was said. The only one that will be able to tell you how you will feel about it will be you after you have used it. I have been suprised by phones that I thight were garbage but turned out to be decent. All the info you will need about both your phones is all over the internet. Why make a post in a Development forum that is not even about the device your thinking about getting?
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Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
+1
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PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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+1 on the trackpad... lol who's idea WAS that???
Totally agree with you. The Mytouch 4g is my first smartphone so I never had anything to compare it to, and I've looked at a few of these new "power" phones and the more I see them the more I realize there aren't many phones that I would be happy with coming from the mytouch. It really is a great phone. And all the development that is being done on it only makes it better. I really couldn't ask for a better phone.
although i have an amaze now and i agree, the mt4g is a beastly single core phone. I loved it's design. But are you serious about reaching for the notification bar? Lol it's less then half an inch bigger vertically than the mt4g unless you have small hands then yes that may be problems for some lol.
However, it's not the screen that's annoying but the overall design of the phone.. Such as the spaces above and below the screen is so God dam wide and useless. It's like half an inch on top and full inch on the bottom.
Btw the dual core actually saves battery life because it uses less energy.
And agreed the speed is not a huge difference especially to those who don't do much with their phones. But i noticed many small things that i like especially the camera.
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+1
As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Alenamari said:
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As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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Well, take that MIUI M1 phone for instance: $300-something isn't half bad for such machine, it would cost twice as much in the US easily.
PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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Gotta say I agree... Love my myTouch 4g!
Teo032 said:
Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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Alenamari said:
Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
Teo032 said:
For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
Alenamari said:
Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
but yeah Im also sticking with my MT4G as I see no real reason for me to upgrade just yet. this is my first android smartphone and I have no complaints/issues at all...even if I did I already solved them by searching xda. although other devices look appealing, spec-wise I have no reason to get a newer phone that will just get outdone(maybe?) in another 3 months or so
I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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lol i really hate the "Mytouch" name...
which genius came up with that??
it makes the Glacier sound cheap and a "iPhone copycat" even though it's far from that...
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
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Shhh "THEY" are watching...
I'm new to the MyTouch 4g, I've only had it for 24 hours or so, but I have to say that I like the phone more than I thought I would. I'm primarily a Nexus One/Nexus S user, but the MyTouch compares nicely to the Nexus One. Rooting was easy, and the phone feels much faster than many newer generation phones. Using physical buttons takes some getting use to, but overall I think it's one of the best purchases I've made in a while. Strangely enough I purchased it primarily to use in Europe/Spain, so it'll be interesting to see how it holds up to that task.
whoa whoa whoa hold on there cowboy, i never said you weren't here for a long time. I just had the notion that you were, but I was confused by your post count, hence the, you Speak as if you've been here for a long time, not, You ACT as if you've been here longer than i have blah blah blah (lol). And that you have been. I'm not questioning your credibility or anything oh mighty one (lol) I completely agree with you on every aspect that the mt4g is an awesome phone, trust me on that I still have one that i mess around with thats why I still frequent this section.
I wasn't attacking your posts or anything. Like i said, i was confused on the way you stated things and how YOUR release dates of phones didn't match the official release dates. Thanks for clearing that up btw... any hookups haha jk.
But don't go and assume I follow the trends and go by quadrant scores and stuff; I actually do the exact opposite example. The only reason why I'm using the amaze isn't because of the dual core processor. I actually got it for a really good deal on CL for $350 in mint condition. I jumped on it. But anyways It's just the small stuff I like about the amaze, especially the camera functionality, and the ridiculous 18mbps speed i hit from time to time. other than that, people shouldn't go out and jump and get an amaze right away. I told many not to bother because development is still in the baby stages and you should save your money until the price drops.
And do you know what computer im using right now?? an AMD64 X2 5000+ black edition. you remember those? lol
I don't even remember how we got into this mess, I wasn't vouching for dual cores, I agreed with everyone here LOL. I was just confused about your release dates tis all
Pissing Me Off
I've been lurking the HTC Facebook & I'm just tired of their bull****. Cancel of Desire HD ICS has put a big X on them by many customers. Don't even get me start on the way they've let us deal with these bugs of 3 dot menu, auto focus issues, yellow tint, overheat, & MULTITASKING. HTC is pissing me off with this crap. I've simply devised a plan to solve all our issues, which I will get to later.
Apple
We all know Apple poses a serious threat with fanboy and stolen ideas... We know this, but Apple also supports their crap. I hate Apple to the core, but they care about their phones. They all get upgrades... Unlike our ****ty upgrade policy & it doesn't depend on carriers. Apple isn't at the mercy of the carrier bull**** like we are. That's the main 2 problems with Android... The carrier bottle neck & timely upgrades. Still, Apple blows with a dull ass ui.
HTC, Motorola & Samsung
We all know the strengths & weaknesses of the big 3 here. HTC has excellent build quality & Sense is beast (to me), but it's a resource hog & HTC is not too damn dev friendly. Let's not forget hboot1.5 & the thousands of different phone models they release every year. Samsung has cheap plastic devices, horrible radios, a ****ty UI, BUT always have top of the line specs. You can't say I'm wrong there. Samsung has always somehow trumped HTC & Motorola with specs. Motorola is just garbage to me, but the have the best radios hands down. They also have the beast battery inside the Razor Maxx.
Defeating Apple... With The Nexus
It's the only way at this point... But we need the help of the big 3. Pure Android, with timely updates, is the sure fire way to stop them. Google can't build the phone tho... So this is what needs to be done. We need to take all the strengths from the big 3 & use them against apple. The build quality from HTC, the specs from Samsung & the radios & Razor Maxx battery from Motorola is all we need. Google can focus on software & firmware updates alone. We will also need Google to prevent carrier bottle neck & the addition of bloat. Google should also NOT let them brand the Nexus. Apple isn't bloated or branded with sprint bull****, the nexus shouldn't be either.
Promotion
Plain & simple Apple wins here, but we can stop them. Google needs to promote like hell. Apple lies in advertising, but we can beat them with facts. The Nexus needs to be promoted so much, even when you sleep you see advertising.
Dev Community
No doubt this phone should come s-off with no bootloader locked. You should be able to flash everything from the phone itself except the stock recovery the phone comes with. You should only use adb 1 time to push a custom recovery. If this isn't possible... Take the HTC approach, but tweak it. Kernel source, drivers, etc will all be available DAY 1.
The Name
Well, the name of the next Nexus should be decided upon by me. Since my game plan here will destroy apple... I think it's more than fair. I've come up with 5 names... No other way:
1. Kao Nexus
2. Transcendent Nexus
3. The Nexus
4. Nexus 5
5. Nexus X (for extermination of Apple)
This is what should be done. Any thoughts?
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
You take this way too seriously. Go out sometime
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Moto has better build quality than HTC.
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I thought it was pretty funny :thumbup:
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That's ALL we have to do, huh? OK. Gimme about 15 - 20 minutes.
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flex360 said:
You take this way too seriously. Go out sometime
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If you have nothing positive to say, don't say anything at all please.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
This felt like the speech before the big battle in brave heart!
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How does any of that solve any of the perceived issues that you listed?
So when do I get the free sword & armor?
Injunction nullification & contract shredding spells wanted. Can't have the revolution tripping over that nonsense.
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If you have nothing positive to say, don't say anything at all please.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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I can 'positively say', this thread should just be locked before hell breaks loose.
*has nothing nice to say, so says nothing*
This is why the site is going to poop. None of my ideas can stop apple? The Galaxy Nexus isn't advertised like it's supposed to? If we take all the positives from HTC, Sammy, & Motorola... We can take them down. With a super dev friendly Nexus & source ready to go day 1... How can the next Nexus device not beast apple?
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KaoMinerva said:
This is why the site is going to ****. None of my ideas can stop apple? The Galaxy Nexus isn't advertised like it's supposed to? If we take all the positives from HTC, Sammy, & Motorola... We can take them down. With a super dev friendly Nexus & source ready to go day 1... How can the next Nexus device not beast apple?
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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Your ideas are talks of getting rival companies to just put their differences and own business strategies aside to *win*. Seems to resonate of 'fixing' the Middle East...
And your question of, "how can the next nexus device not beast Apple?"
Answer: Because regardless of what you may think would be best, cell phone consumers are going to buy their next phone due to personal preference. Whether that preference is familiarity (as apple holds the title for: unchanging ui). Or cutting edge hardware, or software.
No company can put out a device that flat out everyone is going to love. And putting out a 'perfect device' would boost their short term incomes, but hamper long term due to, "why buy another device if this one is perfect?" That's just bad business strategy.
Phutt89 said:
This felt like the speech before the big battle in brave heart!
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Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KaoMinerva said:
This is why the site is going to ****. None of my ideas can stop apple? The Galaxy Nexus isn't advertised like it's supposed to? If we take all the positives from HTC, Sammy, & Motorola... We can take them down. With a super dev friendly Nexus & source ready to go day 1... How can the next Nexus device not beast apple?
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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You think the site is going to hell becasue nobody agrees with your unrealistic ideas to take down apple? Nothing will "take down" apple. Do you think that when android sells more devices than apple, apple will just dissapear? Because they already are, and last time I checked, apple was still around.
Well, still, imagine what the next Nexus will be if HTC, MOTOROLA, & Sammy combined all 3 of their strong points together in one device powered by pure Google Android. That would be amazing. Excellent build quality, powerful specs, awesome radios & Razor Maxx battery is a dream device. Not to mention the unmentioned things like Gorilla Glass 2, Super LCD2, image sense chip of course (thanks HTC), 4.7 inch screen... Super dev friendly with source & drivers day 1!!!!! Jizz on screen bro... Jizz on screen if this came to be.
Naming it Kao Nexus is just a bonus & show of gratitude to me.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
KaoMinerva said:
Well, still, imagine what the next Nexus will be if HTC, MOTOROLA, & Sammy combined all 3 of their strong points together in one device powered by pure Google Android. That would be amazing. Excellent build quality, powerful specs, awesome radios & Razor Maxx battery is a dream device. Not to mention the unmentioned things like Gorilla Glass 2, Super LCD2, image sense chip of course (thanks HTC), 4.7 inch screen... Super dev friendly with source & drivers day 1!!!!! Jizz on screen bro... Jizz on screen if this came to be.
Naming it Kao Nexus is just a bonus & show of gratitude to me.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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And no one would use it, because 97% of the users out there don't WANT 'pure google', they want Sense, or Touchwiz (I refuse to believe anyone actually WANTS 'Blur').
What's perfect to YOU, isn't perfect to most of the consumers who could give a damn what android or apple is doing as long as the device meets their personal criteria.
I think you overestimate the numbers of people that care about unlocking and customizing their phones. It's really close to 2-3%. Most people just want to turn the phone on and have it work.
Technics0891 said:
Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I like how they ran wily nilly into battle. It was all about the shield wall or you lost.
And the battle of Stirling was actually the battle of Stirling bridge. Braveheart was f all inaccurate.
And the princess he had an affair with was 6 years old at the time.
What can i say im a history nerd
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scottspa74 said:
That's ALL we have to do, huh? OK. Gimme about 15 - 20 minutes.
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Haha word lol
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