What comes after the nexus one? - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

I moving into android development and have been trying to figure out what to buy as my "development phone". I know the nexus one is still available to developers, but it's almost a year old.
As I understand it one of the advantages of the nexus one is that you are able to run a version of android unmolested by manufactures and carriers. It also receives any and all android update first.
Once it goes away what phone is going to replace it? What phone will run a pure version of android, and be in line for the first updates?
It seems the nexus one is approaching the end of this life cycle. If you were a new developer and on the limited budget (and which of us isn't) what phone would you buy right now for development purposes?
Thanks!

Nexus Two is being developed by Samsung and is supposed to be out before the end of the year.

yea samsung is having a press event on the 8th of this month. supposedly they are gonna announce a nexus 2 or something. so time will tell
hp://www.engadget.com/2010/10/28/nexus-two-does-or-doesnt-exist-is-or-isnt-being-released/

Thanks for the info!

Rumors are flying on the N2...Nov 8th should clear up some of them.

Will the Nexus 2 be similar to the Galaxy S series?

This is interesting. I think the Nexus Two still might come out of the HTC corner.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_denies_nexus_s_rumors_preps_continuum_for_8_november-news-2046.php

lilhaiti said:
This is interesting. I think the Nexus Two still might come out of the HTC corner.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_denies_nexus_s_rumors_preps_continuum_for_8_november-news-2046.php
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Makes sense. Doesn't HTC build more Android phones than anyone else? Plus I was a little suspicious about the SAMOLED screen on the N2. If there is a shortage as claimed, I can't see why would Samsung put it on a "non-Samsung" branded phone?

It looks like samsung is making the nexus two, and it's going to be delayed. See link below. In short samsung ran across a major hardware issue during dog food testing. So, we know it's coming from samsung, we just don't know when
http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/05/go...ed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)

Pretty sure there gonna call it Nexus S, like LG w/ Optimus One, and all the other Optimus phones, besides Samsung's phones arent the best, and if you really want a phone for just development the original droid can be found for around $200 on ebay, its easy to root and can be easily overclocked to 800Mhz, which I know isn't as amazing but it'll definitely get you the most bang for your buck. (just searched for it on ebay theres one thats about to end in a minute going for $150 so you can probably find for cheaper).

only thinq i hope its that htc make it, cus i dnt trust samsung. all the SGS are crap. they are made of plastic and lagg like crazy lol. hope the famous nexus two keeps the htc quality standarts.
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Would you still want to keep your Nexus S after CES?

There will be new phones announced at CES coming this January. Will you be loyal to your Nexus S after seeing all the second generation phones? In example the dual-core processors, the new 4g headsets, honeycomb tablets, and etc.
I still would want to get one, yet the thing I don't know after I would still want to.
Thanks.
Yes, I will have this phone until the next Nexus device.
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No I am going to keep my nexus s for at least a year.
Jesus not this **** again............
Can we please please please stop this
Be right back, let me get in my time machine...
Can we get the mod to ban anyone else that starts a post with a totally negative feel. There can be nothing positive or constructive about a needless post like this... The phone is quality, we are very happy, now you have your answer;/
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Whoa sorry for the thread. I was just wondering. I did not know that everyone one you would get offended....
This is something positive for the nexus makes you say that you wont give it up.
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Alopez_45 said:
Whoa sorry for the thread. I was just wondering. I did not know that everyone one you would get offended....
This is something positive for the nexus makes you say that your give it up....
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Largely just bad timing, mate. We had a string of trolls roll through here lately making threads along the lines of yours. Plus this topic in general has been discussed to death in a number of really, really great threads.
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truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
I donot see another Stock android experience coming any time soon..and personally having a dual core phone means nothing if you are running outdated software
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
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Actually, it is the most powerful phone atm. 768MB RAM isn't power. 90 million triangles on stock Gingerbread is power. Not that the Desire HD isn't super fast either. Just the Hummingbird is currently unmatched except for the Tegra2 which hasn't truly debuted yet and isn't necesarily "better".
Tmobile has to be getting something great for me to even begin to decide
until we all stop replying to this kine of threads and non-sense posts, this is going to continue on and on... Just ignore and ignore as I been doing, until we get some good moderator on this Nexus S area.
I just want T-Mobile to get better coverage
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If Verizon announces a Galaxy S type device (ie., SAMOLED screen that's 4" or 4.3", with a top end CPU and GPU, and the large 1GB ROM space for apps) with Gingerbread, and due out by March, I am all over it and the Nexus S will go back to Best Buy. If it's not LTE, I'd still consider it, but only because I just am not 100% happy with T-Mobile and AT&T service, and really would like a Verizon network device.
To those griping about "not another thread like this"...do everyone a favor and give the thread a 1-star rating and DON'T RESPOND. The bad threads will sink to the last pages of the forum and you won't have to see them. Keep responding with pointless "stop this kind of posts" posts and they'll just keep bubbling up to the top.
Along those lines, it would sure be nice if XDA had an IGNORE THIS THREAD feature to permanently keep bad threads out of your sight. I've asked/suggested for that feature in the general forum area, but no interest or responses.
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
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GREAT Post ;-)
slowz3r said:
and personally having a dual core phone means nothing if you are running outdated software
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especially since gingerbread isnt supporting dual core processors as of yet. Can you imaging a sweet sweet captivate 2 with touchwiz 7 running dual core on 2.1? I can.(Sarcasm)
I'd keep NS especially I have several top phones (N900, nexus one, MT4, NS) already.

[Q] One S or wait?

As the topic states, which would you do and why? Keep using a G2x and wait to see if something nicer than the One S releases in the near future, use an available upgrade and get the grey One S when T-Mo releases it/wait for them to release the MAO version, or burn the upgrade on a SGSII.
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The SGSIII is probably right around the corner. That's pretty much the only other phone that will trump the One S at the point. So the question to ask yourself is if you want the One S or the SGSIII.
The last thing you want to do is use your upgrade on an SGSII. If anything sell your G2X and buy an SGSII on eBay.
If only HTC would bring out the One S with 32Gb!
I'm still enjoying my original desire but really don't think I could have any less memory than my 16Gb card. I don't want a phone any bigger than the S. So come on HTC Surely they'd fly out the door, seems a pretty perfect phone in just about every other area.
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The SGSIII is probably right around the corner. That's pretty much the only other phone that will trump the One S at the point. So the question to ask yourself is if you want the One S or the SGSIII.
The last thing you want to do is use your upgrade on an SGSII. If anything sell your G2X and buy an SGSII on eBay.
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Go for the one S, i mean the specs on the S3 would look promising but the design of Samsung phones are blah.
I went for the One S, haven't got it yet but don't think I'll regret the decision.
The Galaxy S3 is probably going to have an even larger screen than the S2 had, making it more of a competition for the One X - and way too large for my taste (in fact, the One S is almost too large with 4,3", too, but there's just nothing smaller out there with decent hardware anymore). I've always preferred Sense to TouchWiz, and never much liked Samsung phones in general, even though the Galaxy S2 seems to have brought massive improvements in quality and buyer satisfaction over their earlier offerings.
i was originally also waiting for the gs3 but after mwc i was obsessed with the one s. after having i for 4 days now i don't regret the decision. the cpu is extremly fast and the build quality and design of the device is just extraordinary. samsung's devices on the otger side always fail to impress me on those two points... i prevoiusly had a galaxy s which is a good device but in contrast to the one s it felt cheap and looked ugly...
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Is getting the One X worth it...?

The One X has been out for a month already, and since I am buying from a friend, I have to drop $500 off contract for it. Is it worth getting it right now? I am going to get the iPhone 5 anyways, but I am not sure if it is worth getting the One X if a new android phone is around the corner. I have no real NEED for it, but I want to start learning how to develop apps since I know Java and C++. I would love the One X, but is now the right time to buy it? :cyclops:
It's a great phone, you'll love it. Talk your friend down to $450.
pl0xn00b said:
The One X has been out for a month already, and since I am buying from a friend, I have to drop $500 off contract for it. Is it worth getting it right now? I am going to get the iPhone 5 anyways, but I am not sure if it is worth getting the One X if a new android phone is around the corner. I have no real NEED for it, but I want to start learning how to develop apps since I know Java and C++. I would love the One X, but is now the right time to buy it? :cyclops:
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If you have the money and desire, I say go for it... What do you mean when you ask if it's the right time to buy it? I don't think that there is a right/wrong time to buy it... If you wait, there will be more development done and the price might be cheaper.... If you get it now, you will own a bleeding edge phone.... It's up to you
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I had the international version for a while, and it was truly stellar. Sold that, switched to iPhone, now i want it back. But do you think that if I am spending the money, I should wait a bit and get the Galaxy S3? Or this?
Is it worth waiting around a month if I don't need it really badly? Or should I jump the gun for $450?
There's always a new phone around the corner and the SGS3 vs HOX debate has been discussed ad nauseum. Play with it, and if you like it more than the iphone do it. Or go play with a SGS3 somewhere.
Don't rely on these boards to define your personal opinion for you.
That being said 450 - 500 is pretty good for a very new model phone. You can check the unsubsidized price quite easily online which should inform your asking price once you settle on what you want.
Just wondering - are these phones all for personal use or business? Why are you getting an android phone and an iphone 5? Just an enthusiast?
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Enthusiast and because I'm in my high school years so I've started some app development on the iPhone and I want to see what it's like on android too. iPhone 5 just cause I have an upgrade then
If you want to play around just get a galaxy s 2 variant. Save some dough. I'd only spend the money if I were going to keep it at least a year. But then again I wouldn't get the One X because it barely has any storage
I just went from a Samsung Galaxy S II to the HTC One X (AT&T) and I love it. Not only is it quite a bit snappier, the build quality far surpasses the Galaxy S II. The only negative I can note are the non-expandable memory and beats audio does not play nice with my car stereo. I have to set the stereo to "Flat", instead of my custom setting, or there is a really loud whining noise. On headphones though, the audio is great. Overall I feel it is just a better product build quality wise, and that makes a big difference to me.
I paid only $119.88 for mine at Best Buy since they price matched WalMart for me.
Instead of $500 i would get the galaxy nexus unlocked for $399 (plus shipping+tax)
Build quality is a lot better then any galaxy phone. The only down fall to the one x is the small storage but that's why I kept my note. This is def better then any iPhone
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karan1203 said:
Instead of $500 i would get the galaxy nexus unlocked for $399 (plus shipping+tax)
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The GNex ends up being around $450 shipped. If he can get the HOX for that price it would be downright stupid to get the GNex. It's a decent device, and but it has nothing on the HOX. Its hardware was behind the curve before it even came out.
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Its a great phone, I love it. I was having a hard time deciding between the HTC ONE X and the google nexus. I ended up going with the one x. The nexus has a smaller screen and it also has software buttons as opposed to hardware buttoms. Software buttons are nice except that it takes up screen space.
There are other phones now on the market, like the Samsung GSII which has more RAM and may or may not be better than the One X. But I like this phone and I'll stick with it.
Read Anandtech's reviews for the AT&T One X and the AT&T/T-Mobile GS3.
It is really down to what you prioritize.
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If you want to play around just get a galaxy s 2 variant. Save some dough. I'd only spend the money if I were going to keep it at least a year. But then again I wouldn't get the One X because it barely has any storage
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this is good advice. Get a previous generation android device, running gingerbread like an SGS II or Inspire or something inexpensive on craig's list.
If you fall in love with Android, THEN spend the money on a flagship phone.
gunnyman said:
this is good advice. Get a previous generation android device, running gingerbread like an SGS II or Inspire or something inexpensive on craig's list.
If you fall in love with Android, THEN spend the money on a flagship phone.
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Yeah, this I agree with. The GSII is still a solid piece of equipment.
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Yeah, this I agree with. The GSII is still a solid piece of equipment.
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sometimes I wish I still had one to play with, maybe learn some devving myself.
I love my phone.
For me it was between the Galaxy Nexus GSM from the Play store or this, but as soon as I went to the store to try this out I knew I had to get it. I bought the phone for the same reasons as you (to start developing, I'm in high school as well) and I've had good success with it (check out my Evervolv ROM )
I'd say go for this but its really personal opinion.
I love the phone itself, since I had the international version (toooo priceyyy) but I really dont know about buying it second hand and whether if I wait just a month, the price will decrease to liek $350 or some mindblowing new device will come out. But there's always that possibility that I will screw myself over getting it now instead of waiting a month.
Also, do you think that the iPhone 4S is futureproofed to the iPhone 5? Is it going to be a "worth-it" upgrade to go from the 4S to the 5 when it comes out? I know there's not a lot we know for sure about the device, but from what we know so far.
Also, what will retain more value over the long run (7-8 months from now)... the One X or the Galaxy S III?
As a person who has had several androids over a short period of time (galaxy s, thrill, g note) the one x is my favorite. The batterylife and screen alone has madw it my daily driver. So I say go for it.
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Trading my HOXL for Nexus

To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Android phones are hard to predict.
6 Months is half a product cycle of an iPhone.
The HTC One X(L) is a fantastic device. We don't even have Kernel Source yet and look at the development we've seen so far. Sit tight.
I think ISIS will be a huge fail and Google Wallet will be allowed eventually.
kingdamian42 said:
To make this simple, I've always wanted a nexus phone. I came from having an iPhone, where everything was uniform, same hardware, and consistent updates were expected. The only time you didn't get an update the day it came out was if your phone was at it's end of life update cycle. But this is the reason I've always wanted a nexus phone. There's something about having a pure google experience that can't be mucked around by manufacturers.
However I am at a dilemma. When the Galaxy Nexus was first announced I was immediately sold. I wanted that phone. Then the sad news came that AT&T was not getting a subsidized version. I could not afford to drop $500 (At the time, yes I know it has droppped) on a phone, especially one without LTE.
But now I have my HOXL and I do love it, I just wish this amazing hardware could actually be put to good use. Probably my number one issue is the fact that there is no google wallet, which I have been dying for. What's the point of AT&T not allowing it when the reason for it (ISIS) has not even been released? And the other huge problem I have is Android Updates, who knows how quickly this phone will get updated. Most phones don't even have ICS yet, and before someone claims to just use a ROM like AOKP or CM9, I would, gladly, but because the kernel is not released, those ROMS don't work with 100% functionality like I need.
This all being said,
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I want a Nexus phone. Probably wont trade for Galaxy Nexus because the hardware is already outdated, but maybe one of the 5 nexus' phones in November. Do you guys think someone will trade after the phone is 6 months old?
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
People have mentioned all kinds of crazy trades, so anything is possible, I guess. But as mentioned in above responses, I wouldn't bet on a straight out one-for-one trade. Trading what is probably going to be a flagship phone, for a phone that is 5-6 months old is probably not going to be considered a fair trade by most people. You may have to sweeten the deal by throwing in something extra, or extra cash to make it a fair trade. Or sell the One X for whatever you can get for it, then buy the Nexus of your choice.
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
kingdamian42 said:
Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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Funny, I left my GN to get the HOX because of the terrible radio. Although the software was great, I got really slow data speeds on the GN no matter what radio I flashed. My HOX gets fantastic speeds now.
Whether the radio is good or not is never one of the specs reviewers talk about but without a good radio, the phone is not much use. Do a few searches on Samsung radios and you will see that they have a poor reputation.
And as far as development is concerned, ask SG2 owners how long it took to get CM to work because of the weird blue tooth drivers Samsung used....
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I pre-ordered a Nexus 7 tablet to satisfy my craving for a pure android device.
Ordered my Nexus 7 as well. Probably going to sell my Prime, but we'll see.
As soon as source drops for this phone, it's going to be huge.
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Galaxy Nexus just dropped to $350... don't know if I can resist...
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I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
karan1203 said:
I pulled the trigger. Bought the galaxy nexus. I have no plans to get rid of the one x even though it's buggy as hell so i'll probably end up getting straight talk on the nexus and use it as a toy. :laugh:
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wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
bongd said:
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. (
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Try using HD contact photos (app). Seems to work pretty well as long as you don't use the HD resolution feature in the advanced settings.
BTW that's a Google problem, not HTC problem.
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You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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expertzero1 said:
You guys are so rich, but the nexus is almost 7 months old.
Anyways the one x will jelly Bean
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Lol one x will jelly bean.
Im using jelly bean on my old deactivated nexus, and Im dying to have Google now on the one x. It blows all the voice assistants we currently have out of the water.
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ethantarheels123 said:
wait a few more weeks and watch the "buggy" one x become godly and blow the nexus out of the water
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I can only dream of this happening. Stock nexus with inferior hardware is smoother than our one x. Sense uses way too much RAM.
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gunnyman said:
Yeah it bugs me too that Samsung has a better rep with developers than HTC does. Of course with past phones they had to. Imagine the Captivate with locked bootloader and no source (shudder)
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Samsung is a bigger company. They have leverage against carriers. HTC is desperate.
Another reason is, samsung is the biggest electronics manufacturing company in the world. This is why the nexus is able to sell at $350. There is no other company that can provide such cost efficiency. Only samsung has the infrastructure.
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Probably not only because those phones will be unsubsidized, meaning that they will be dropping the money on those phones, going out of their way to buy one off-contract, rather than simply paying less for a subsidized one. I feel like whoever is going to buy those phones will actually really want them. If they wanted the One X, they would have dropped the money on that (and probably for a cheaper price)
And I agree with you that you never know when you will get an official update for Androids, however I honestly couldn't care less if our phone never gets an official update again, so long as we have the source code.... Once we have that we will ALWAYS be on the cutting edge of the Android platform...(and yes...it will be stable as well...like the previous poster said...our phone is only a month an a half old and we do not have the source yet...once we get that you will see much much much improvement.)
It does concern me that the fact that the SGSIII is now out and uniform amongst all US carriers AND they have the source....I just hope that some good devs still decide to get the One X
And HTC really ought to open their eyes to the fact that they are going to have to release the source eventually, and they are only shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the source now, now that SGSIII is out WITH source...
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I don't think we're gonna see anymore developers then what we currently have. They're gonna flock to the sgs3 and the nexus phones. Also, with another better One X supposedly rumored, why would they get this phone? We haven't reached the most roms well get but we've most likely seen which developers will work on them. This phone was doomed one the sgs3 and jelly bean came out. Source or no source.
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bongd said:
I miss my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't think it'd take so long for us to get the kernel source code and that's holding back development. No CM9 = no care.
This is an awesome phone stock and with the mods and customizations it's a lot better, but I can't even get full contact pictures without a ton of pixelization and that's annoying. Can't undervolt or use any of the fantastic kernels that devs release, because they can't work on this damn phone. HTC are being assholes to their loyal devotees so it's pretty disappointing.
Awesome phone, but no where near the level of homebrew/hobby development because of HTC. I want to love this phone but when I see what the HTC One X guys have with their Tegra 3 chip I get so jelly
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I'm thinking it's more of that crappy company AT&T. Isn't the source out already for the evo 4g lte?
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expertzero1 said:
At least our device isn't ridden with hardware defects (tegra3 one x)
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You're kidding right?
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Galaxy S Relay 4G Development Thread

So it seems my thread questioning about anyone getting the Relay has turned in the the Dev thread for it since for some reason XDA doesnt want to make a thread dedicated to it. I personally ended up buying a Note 2 which is why I dont follow this thread anymore but I just recieved a PM saying the thread was moved so I figured I would change the title of the thread from "Any one planning on getting the Galaxy Relay 4G" to "Galaxy S Relay 4G Development Thread".
Definitely looking into a replacement for my G2, haven't really seen anything convincing thusfar. With a S4, this just might do it.
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Definitely looking into a replacement for my G2, haven't really seen anything convincing thusfar. With a S4, this just might do it.
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Thats what im thinking. I hope that the rumor of a 5mp camera is wrong and it ends up being an 8mp but even if it is a 5 as long as it has a good sensor and flash ill be happy. So far it seems it will basically be a Galaxy S3 with a 4" screen and a QWERTY minus 1GB ram which really doesnt matter. Ive never owned a samsung before but i guess they are really easy to root with a program from samsung called odin. Hopefully CM will be supporting it.
Either way, it could be the next best upgrade for Desire Z owners. Especially with so many discouraged people with HTC and their policy's. They can keep them, and their phones. No ICS update, not even for related phones where we could bum the driver over. Not to forget how locked down the phone is. Plus Samsung phones are more consistant.
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Either way, it could be the next best upgrade for Desire Z owners. Especially with so many discouraged people with HTC and their policy's. They can keep them, and their phones. No ICS update, not even for related phones where we could bum the driver over. Not to forget how locked down the phone is. Plus Samsung phones are more consistant.
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Yeah Samsung seems to be the way to go these days. HTC locks their bootloaders, both HTC and LG dont provide updates, Sony phones are just not even close to the competition. Samsung provides the ODIN program so you can do what you please with what you paid for plus it seems they are providing pretty decent updates with the S2 and Note both year old devices getting Jelly been. Where my year old G2x is still on GB.
I definitely plan to replace my wife's G2 with the Relay. I've had a Vibrant and now the TMO GS2, I love working with Samsung phones, much easier.
Only if confirmed specs come out. Some new phones that aren't super popular are getting outdated specs like the new mytouch lines by huawei
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Only if confirmed specs come out. Some new phones that aren't super popular are getting outdated specs like the new mytouch lines by huawei
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Yeah those new mytouch phones phones had been rumored for awhile now and the specs of them were outed well before they even came out i mean really a single core phone? Where going to be seeing quad core phones in the states soon
The only tmo mytouch that wasnt terrible was the first one. I had the slide and it was ok but had a locked bootloader and the genuis button is so stupid, never would buy another mytouch. I was really hoping that those rumors of a G3 were true but hopefully this Relay will turn out to be a great phone.
Hot dang that looks promising! Although I do love my g2 it'd be nice to have decent specs
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I'd rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail than use a keyboard made by Samsung.
Or Touchwiz for that matter, at least that mistake of an interface can be fixed with another ROM. Just sayin.
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I'd rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail than use a keyboard made by Samsung.
Or Touchwiz for that matter, at least that mistake of an interface can be fixed with another ROM. Just sayin.
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The keyboard looks nice to me, who knows how it will feel since no one has tried it yet. I agree with the touch wiz but im hoping cm will support it.
What's the problem with Samsung keyboards?
HTC keyboards are the only ones I've liked. The spacing, depth of key press, and layout are the only ones that I've cared to use. Everything else I've tried feels like I'm using something cheaply made.
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I think I'll wait for October. That's when my G1 & G2 came out. If October comes without any solid information on a G3, then I'll migrate over to whatever the next Nexus device might be.
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Either way I'm waiting for my T-Mobile contract to end. Once that happens, I'm going to give T-Mobile a decision to make. Either give me a new phone of my choosing, or I switch carriers. A lot of my friends do this, and they end up with a brand new phone, like Samsung Galaxy S3's, but they're out of contract and desperate to keep you in it.
Carriers tend to give new contracts better deals for phones then those who just got their upgrade. Also, there's a lot of other carriers who offer a lot more for less then the big US carriers.
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I think I'll wait for October. That's when my G1 & G2 came out. If October comes without any solid information on a G3, then I'll migrate over to whatever the next Nexus device might be.
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Idk man id love to see a G3 as much as anyone else here but I dont see it happening especially with the stupid G4x thats going to be coming to tmobile. It wouldnt make sense for them to release a phone named G4x and then a phone named G3. G4x will be just as garbage as the G2x, it will have awesome hardware and a quad core but will have no software support from LG or NVidia.
Do you guys think it will work in sweden? Then someone needs to send me one. Htc can **** off now. To bad i dont like samsung build quality and feel. To plasticky
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With Swype beta I don't really need physical QWERTY anymore. I'm just waiting for next nexus phone(s).
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Looks like an s3 with a keyboard, beautiful.
More pics released! Im feeling it. Hopefully it gets CM support and the power button can be mapped for the camera.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/08/a-full-360-degree-view-of-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-emerges/

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