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[Q] Galaxy S 4G: how much is your application storage?

I caught one with 190MB application storage which is unacceptable for most.
I use MT4 and NS instead of nexus one because of that. Don't ever think app2SD helps because it won't work when the phone is in USB mass storage mode or memory card is removed.

I had about the same until I started adding some of my apps to the phone. I can't even add all my apps because of the internal storage. Can't wait for root and some Roms (CyanogenMod 7).
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Man this thing is pissing me off. I can't even install half the apps I had installed on my original Vibrant.

T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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HeavyComponent said:
T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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We can use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps for now right?

Well yeah if you have root access.
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Well yeah if you have root access.
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Cool I rooted it and have Titanium Backup installed. Just no CWM yet for ROM Manager.

I have all my appz installed with no issue... honestly 16gb onboard made the vibrant slow. im glad to have less... and I can install as many apps to my sd card as i want.

I see someone has said they have over 500mb of internal, how is that possible and why is mine not the same?

I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem

IAIRonI said:
I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem
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Ok cool, let us know what's going on. I have a total of 539MB internal storage.
Specs says 1GB! I read that off phonedog I think.

"You should definitley have more memory than what you are showing. I can get you the manufacturers information. Since it is a Samsung device their support teams will definitely be able to assist you a little better than us at the moment.
_Jessica C: I know that you don't want to go back to the store, but if there is an issue with the device it may be the best bet since it is a new phone. I can also recommend taking it to a T-mobile direct dealer. They may be able to test your software. They know anything and everything about these phones.
_Jessica C: I do apologize but I am limited with my information at the time."
Since it's a new phone she doesn't have all the info, etc. At least they know there is a problem now.
I'm going to go to a t-mobile store and talk to them so I'll let you know what they say

LOL
i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.

Ok, I just got off with a T-Mobile rep and she said the internal memory should have a total of 512MB. ...sucks! But good thing we have a 16GB sdcard.

^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
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i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.
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I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.

Let us know the difference once you get the exchange.
IAIRonI said:
^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.
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Ok, I can't stand my phone to be on stock so I think I will be going back to my MT4G.
I'll be back when Rom Manager supports the phone, full recovery and some nice ROMs starts flying in. (I WANT CM7!)
...love the screen though! Big difference when coming from the MT4G. :|
I will be checking this section and will be posting as well.
Thanks for all the help guys.

I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.

aloneinshadow said:
I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.
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Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?

I only installed about 10 apps and I'm down to 151mb. Kinda sucks. Hoping we can get clockwork recovery soon.
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Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?
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Just a few bloatware things, probably 10 or 15 apps.

A list of a few Vibrant 4G FAILS

Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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Also some of us who own the 4G have problems with the:
- GPS
- battery life
These are clearly evidenced by the many threads and posts of users having those specific issues.

What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.

aloneinshadow said:
What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.
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I agree with you 100%

Hopefully with a list up of problems a developer can look at this as a checklist for future rom development
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Yeah I love the speed, its deffinatly a noticable step up from my Mytouch 4g. I Like that the MyTouch 4g came with stock mobile hotspot activated, flash on the camera and the FFC on MyTouch 4g was noticably better quality camera than the Vibrant 4g is. Other than that it's Stupid that they took out the 16gb internal memory. But Im sure some sick ROMs will come out for this phone.

You should take GPS and battery life off of the list, there are like 2 people having that problem lol

can some one enlighten me on what's the deal with the part that says the internal storage have been removed???
pegate369 said:
Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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Never mind found the answer already... Holy CRAP! less than 512 mb available
that's a deal breaker for me, and i was planning to get one

Yes im new an all... but if we knew for months that the there was no camera flash and the internal memory was reduced (with expandable increased)... Who buys it , then complains about the issues already documented?
THe SGS4G is rocking with me, I moved apps to the SD , GPS works great . but i guess im the only one, it would seem from the forums ..

when i purchased this phone at the tmo store they said it had the 16g internal and aparently they didnt know

trekei said:
Yes im new an all... but if we knew for months that the there was no camera flash and the internal memory was reduced (with expandable increased)... Who buys it , then complains about the issues already documented?
THe SGS4G is rocking with me, I moved apps to the SD , GPS works great . but i guess im the only one, it would seem from the forums ..
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ur not, I love mine, great battery life, and all my functions work great. Low storage? who cares! take off the crapware.

bloatware
Can bloatware be deleted without root? Also, I have read that people who have removed telenav from the phone have had GPS issues after. Can anyone confirm this?

drksilenc said:
when i purchased this phone at the tmo store they said it had the 16g internal and aparently they didnt know
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Where does T-Mobile hire these people? Seriously. They told me that it had honeycomb on it when I bought it. I picked up the demo phone, went to about phone, and showed them that it had Froyo. They didn't believe me and insisted that it did in fact have honeycomb on it.... I guess thankfully if we're on here chances are we're smart enough to do our own research and know for the most part what we're getting into with any phone purchases.

I only go into the store to buy accesories , i never those people questions , they never know.

aloneinshadow said:
What is the point of this thread other than to whine and moan? This phone has been out less than a week guys, we don't even have CWM yet for crying out loud. We have no idea the potential this phone might have yet.
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the potential is the same as vib 3g + 4g data speeds ,there i described your phone .

Is a sam-dung , they always have problems...
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Lacking application storage is the utworst, period.
Modify internal hardware is nearly impossible (can you replace internal NAND with 4GB?!).

mingkee said:
Lacking application storage is the utworst, period.
Modify internal hardware is nearly impossible (can you replace internal NAND with 4GB?!).
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TO The Numerous People Who Whine and Complain About This:
Android 2.2 supports the ability to run applications from the microSD card.
OMG It doesn't have alot of internal storage... who cares? If you're running a Class 4, 5 or 6 SD card it doesn't matter.
Additionally I like the ability to upgrade my SD storage whenever I want.
It came with a 16gb SD card anyhow.
I didn't buy a Nexus S (16gb internal, no microSD) because it didn't support SD storage.
Stop whining and complaining about the fact that it doesn't have internal storage... it's getting old.

pegate369 said:
Ok so a few things I'm not liking about the Vibrant 4G are:
-Internal memory removed
-No camera flash
-Can't record videos with FFC unless using QIK
-Can't switch to FFC in yahoo video chat
-No FFC auto focus or effects
-Tons of bloatware (which most I already removed)
This is all I can think of right now but feel free to add a few more things to the list guys
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FYI, if you buy a branded phone from a carrier you get bloatware, plain and simple.
Don't want bloatware? Root and remove like you already did. Feel lucky, the Epic 4G comes with way more crapware.
OR Buy a google experience phone like a G2.
FYI, internal memory wasn't removed, it was reduced.
FYI, the SGS4G has amazing night mode, frankly I don't like flash.

Cant make up my mind.....

if I should return this phone or not.
I am coming from the old MT3G, so this is a serious upgrade for me, and I am loving every thing about it, except the memory issue for the apps.
I know that the LG Optimus g2X is probably coming out this month on Tmo, and probably could get on that instead.
I am trying to get everyones opinion on this ... just to get the pros and cons of this compared to that of the LGs.
Would appreciate if you guys can give me your input......
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Also, is it possible to return it rooted? Do I need to reload all the bloatware I deleted?

I like the phone, but I cannot recommend over the mytouch 4g. I have both.
+ The screen is amazing, and a huge selling point
+ Takes some of the best HD video ive ever experienced on a mobile phone
+ Snappy phone, no real issues as far of everyday use. It truely is a great phone.
+ Data speeds are very good
- The cheezyness of touchwiz UI and the extreme bloatware
- Totally nerfed the memory, combined with bloatware I only had like 400mb of memory available, why samsung?
-/+ no Flash on Camera, sorry. Camera performs well, but video is very good. Actually takes half decent pics in dim lighting. But having the option for flash would help, again..why samsung?
Other little things with the stock rom, like the browser not able to load in desktop mode and the very well hidden mobile hotspot are annoying but im sure will be resolved with custom Roms.
This phone couldve been a home run, but samsung only trades off some luxuries hardwarewise. The shipping software is tragic, but XDA im sure will come to the rescue. So with that...im keeping it.
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i've worked a couple of refurb centers for cell phones and you can return a phone to them with a full custom rom on it if you want. they don't care. they just replace hardware and plastics as necessary and EVERY phone gets plugged in and returned to a factory image. with that in mind... don't tell customer support anything over the phone that would prevent them from setting you up for a phone swap. lol
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great... i recommend it. improved sound and video recording over the original Vibrant. i still have my original Vibrant so i compare them off and on. drastic improvements in some areas such as GPS. no change in others.
give it a go... you've got nothing to lose.

Return it and wait for something better.
I literally can't wait to get my replacement Vibrant 3g in the mail, so I can take this thign back.
I actually really hate it, and feel it's been a step backwards.

Just woundering,where did you hear that the optimus 2x is comming out this month
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I have a mytouch 4g so I disagree with the above post. I would so get a galaxy s.
Lol but if you wanna get rid of it....i will trade you my mytouch 4g haha
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Just wait on GS2 Galaxy 4g Is pointless a 4g upgrade no power at all at all lol
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luckyduck69 said:
i've worked a couple of refurb centers for cell phones and you can return a phone to them with a full custom rom on it if you want. they don't care. they just replace hardware and plastics as necessary and EVERY phone gets plugged in and returned to a factory image. with that in mind... don't tell customer support anything over the phone that would prevent them from setting you up for a phone swap. lol
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great... i recommend it. improved sound and video recording over the original Vibrant. i still have my original Vibrant so i compare them off and on. drastic improvements in some areas such as GPS. no change in others.
give it a go... you've got nothing to lose.
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I definitely want to give this one a try, as said coming from the old MT3G, this is a good upgrade, snappy fast. Yes apps can be handled using the app2sd etc, but if waiting for a few more days or weeks will get me a phone where this is not going to be a tradeoff, then I keep thinking that it might be worth waiting.
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Just woundering,where did you hear that the optimus 2x is comming out this month
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I am not sure if its being released this month, but cnet, XDA, endgadget all announced it a few days back that Tmobile is going to be getting it this month. The exact launch date i am unsure of. Check out the forum on XDA, they are talking all about it. (of course I might be totally mistaken)
carmeng4evr said:
I have a mytouch 4g so I disagree with the above post. I would so get a galaxy s.
Lol but if you wanna get rid of it....i will trade you my mytouch 4g haha
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Ohh no way am I going for the MT4G, they were giving it at free at Costco - from where i upgraded to the SG4G, but chose not to.. nice try though
The only one I think I wanna wait for is the LG phone, since its to be, APPARENTLY, original android etc and it might have the 1 or 2 GB space for apps. Of course its dual core etc, and might get ginerbread much earlier then the samsung.
The drawback on the LG is the screen resolution. And we dont know how the battery life is going to be on it or any other issues.

xxkingpinxx said:
- The cheezyness of touchwiz UI and the extreme bloatware
- Totally nerfed the memory, combined with bloatware I only had like 400mb of memory available, why samsung?
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Extreme bloatware? Have you seen a Epic 4G stock... now that is extreme bloatware compared to this.
Additionally, DoubleTwist AirSync is $5, so yeah I guess it's bloatware if you don't use it, but otherwise it's a bonus.
Honestly, I still don't understand everyone's complaint about internal memory. Move the app to the 16gb SD they provided.
Additionally, I was going to get the Nexus S but then I found out it has 16gb internal but no microSD support. I like the ability to change my storage space.

I am also coming from a My Touch 3g (3.5) and I really love the Galaxy S. I was up in the air between Nexus S, My Touch 4g, and this one. The Nexus lost out because no memory slot, the My Touch seemed a little slower (perception maybe) and the screen was not as nice. I can live with the on board memory since I can do a 32 gig card and run most apps that way. Will I regret not waiting...maybe but right now it is the best phone I have had it was easy to root and remove all the garbage I didnt want.
So I say keep it

luckyduck69 said:
as for the phone's app issue... not really an issue if you have a moderate understanding of android and know how to move apps to external sd. all in all the phone is great...
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Memory IS an issue. With the type of processor this phone has is geared toward gaming and video. Gaming is great on this phone, but alot of the high quality games needs system resources and still needs a sizable amount of memory on the phone even with SD card data moved, not to mention even the apps that have to use system resources and cannot be moved. From my experience, the paltry memory was used real quick, and I'm not the only one.
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Extreme bloatware? Have you seen a Epic 4G stock... now that is extreme bloatware compared to this.
Additionally, DoubleTwist AirSync is $5, so yeah I guess it's bloatware if you don't use it, but otherwise it's a bonus.
Honestly, I still don't understand everyone's complaint about internal memory. Move the app to the 16gb SD they provided.
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No I haven't seen Epic 4g stock.
Im a 6yr Tmobile employee, I beta test and get my phones free, so I've been thru almost all our phones. This one has to have the most on board "bloatware" I've come across out of all our phones. Now bloatware to me by definition are software that should be OPTIONAL to the end user but is not and remains on the phone using memory and not being used.
A few apps I don't use and would like to be removed,
amazon mp3 - 1.12mb
Tmobile Backup- 1.15mb
Kindle- 2.68mb
Layer- 3.0mb
Media Hub- 4.47mb
My Account- 1.35mb
Slacker Radio- 2.40mb
T-Mobile TV- 4.48mb
TeleNav GPS- 1.97mb
ThinkFree Office- 9.18mb
Y! Finance Clock- 1.2mb
Now thats only app size, not to mention the cached data and background resources these apps use. And thats just some of the stuff, I do use some of the other apps already on the phone.
Really the point I'm trying to make is that most upper tier Android phones, (which this should fall in that catagory) should almost be a prerequisite to have a sizable amount of onboard memory available to the end user and this one doesn't. Why does the vibrant have sizable memory and this doesn't?
And BTW, I do not know why everybody is dogging the MyTouch 4G, it can do everything the Gs4G can do, and has memory and camera flash and only .2 of an inch smaller screen, and of course HTC made so updates and large XDA support. Like I said...I like the Galaxy S 4G but feel I made a lateral move from the MyTouch 4G.

castro08 said:
Just woundering,where did you hear that the optimus 2x is comming out this month
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Id like to know the same..
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Impressions of my new G2X

Got mine this afternoon and I'm coming from a Verizon Incredible running CyanogenMod 7 so I have quite a lot of Android experience and I've seen the latest stuff (gingerbread). I also have a XOOM.
So I got my G2X and here are my impressions:
++ Screen is just WOW. Coming from AMOLED I was not expecting much but it really blew me away - it's almost too bright from what I'm used to. Outdoors it is super easy to read which is a big plus from an AMOLED. Would have been perfect with qHD but the current resolution is good enough for me
++ Build quality is superb. Very solid in hand, no creaks or cheap feeling parts. Back feels good and side is great. Mine came with a nice screen protector already on the screen so I'm leaving it on for now. It seems pretty high quality. I love the weight/feel of it though.
++ Speaker on the bottom. Sounds OK...the notifications/ringtones are super loud but the music didn't seem as loud? Not a big deal. It sounds better than when the speaker is in the back like the Inc.
++ WiFi is mind blowing fast. I get 30mbps/15mbps on my N Wifi. Thats as fast as an iPad2 and XOOM and a little slower than an i7 Macbook Pro!! This thing is balls out fast on WiFi if you have N. Worth getting an N router if you don't!
++ Cell signal seems good although it seems slow to pickup/switch from WiFi to 3G, etc. Haven't used it enough to make a judgement on this. Speed outdoors with full bars and 4G showing is just so-so...about 1.5mbps down and 1.5mbps up. But then again I'm in NYC area so too many people probably.
++ Speed - this thing is a beast. 2500+ in quadrant stock and just very speedy in using apps. The browser seems responsive and flash seems very smooth in general. Downloads (see wifi speed up) from Market and installs are blindingly fast.
++ No crapware!! Only stuff is TMobile apps which are reasonable like myAccount and mydevice, etc. I can live with that. The games they put on are pretty awesome (Nova and NFS is a good start).
++ Wifi Calling - never had before and I think it's awesome. Seems to work quite well. When on, the cell signal bars go to zero so I'm guessing it turns off the cell radio? is this true? If so that'd be good.
++ Boot time is kind of ridiculously fast - about 10-15 seconds on average from cold start.
-- Stock Froyo launcher is mehh. Was fun for a bit but then I couldn't stand the 5 screens and lack of functionality. I ended up sticking launcher pro on it and so far it's good although LP is smooth/fast it's still laggy at times which is odd. On the bright side, I can run the Nexus Live wallpaper and it seems to have no impact on overall performance
-- I miss Gingerbread more than I thought. Mainly text selection is none existent in Froyo and it's annoying to say the least
-- Car Home that comes with the G2X is old and crappy. You can't install the new one from Market because it's not marked as compatible. I was able to BT the file over from my Incredible and luckily it installed fine and seems to work.
I haven't had a chance to play with the cameras yet and haven't had a chance to test the battery either so will post back if there's any surprises on those.
Overall I'm very happy so far. I'm going to try it out for a week or two and then if I still love it, port over my Verizon #. Any questions?
See my post further down!!! There are 2 items that may be issues for people!!

Nice post.... How much memory is accessible for apps? And what's the full ram with all apps closed/bootup .... Thanks man. Awesome review

Nice. Thanks.
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smashpunks said:
Nice post.... How much memory is accessible for apps? And what's the full ram with all apps closed/bootup .... Thanks man. Awesome review
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Not sure about first boot but based on Anandtech's review of the O2X and what I'm seeing in OS monitor only looks like 384!! 128MB of the 512MB ram is dedicated to the Nvidia GPU/CPU so that only leaves 384.
OH and one other thing that's extremely annoying is how the SD card is handled in this phone. The internal 5GB of free storage is actually mounted as SDCARD!!! /mnt/sdcard
The external SD card is mounted as /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD
So any and all apps end up writing to the internal 5GB and not the external SD. You have to have apps that can have paths changed and I guess you can still store pictures, music and other junk on the SD card but you'll end up using your internal 5GB for most app stuff whether you like it or not!!
So that's a big --- for me I forgot to add

Great summary, thanks for that !

mobilehavoc said:
++ Wifi Calling - never had before and I think it's awesome. Seems to work quite well. When on, the cell signal bars go to zero so I'm guessing it turns off the cell radio? is this true? If so that'd be good.
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I don't know if you travel internationally but WiFi calling is a lifesaver. Anywhere you can connect to the Internet all the calls you make are counted as U.S. domestic against your U.S. minutes. I'm in Europe and Asia a lot and it's saved me a fortune in roaming charges. I just used it on a cruise ship to call home for the 25 cents a minute the ship charges for WiFi access. You can also use it on GoGo to call and text from planes. I've done the latter but wouldn't want to become a national security risk doing the former. And yes, it deactivates the radio so calls, text, and data are transmitted via WiFi.

Thanks for the early review. I played with in the store the other day, and the screen is nice. I currently have a nexus s, and the G2x screen is on par with the nexus s. The G2x actually has more pop with the color. The phone feels well made, and it's a beast very snappy. I'm still debating, whether to sale my nexus s. Decisions decisions.

How is the GPS accuracy guys? Can you post a few screenshots from GPS status app from market?

Call quality? Maybe it's just my ears, but my vibrant really bites when it comes to this. Too low without HAC and everyone always sounds muffled..

fearmonkey said:
Call quality? Maybe it's just my ears, but my vibrant really bites when it comes to this. Too low without HAC and everyone always sounds muffled..
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A few calls I've made the earpiece is very clear and loud...couldn't put it at full volume because it was too loud which is a good thing. My Inc's earpiece was somewhat quiet.

I too was amazed at how great the screen is. It's bright and the colors POP! The blacks are not as rich as Sammy's but to me the display looks better because that bluish tinge is not on the G2x. I can't wait to get gingerbread on here and then this will probably end up being my favorite device to date.
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I dont believe anybody mentioned if tethering is working on this phone? I am sure with rooting and custom ROMS it will work. But, I am just curious does it work right out of box?

ceroglu said:
I dont believe anybody mentioned if tethering is working on this phone? I am sure with rooting and custom ROMS it will work. But, I am just curious does it work right out of box?
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It works right out the box.
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mobilehavoc said:
Not sure about first boot but based on Anandtech's review of the O2X and what I'm seeing in OS monitor only looks like 384!! 128MB of the 512MB ram is dedicated to the Nvidia GPU/CPU so that only leaves 384.
OH and one other thing that's extremely annoying is how the SD card is handled in this phone. The internal 5GB of free storage is actually mounted as SDCARD!!! /mnt/sdcard
The external SD card is mounted as /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD
So any and all apps end up writing to the internal 5GB and not the external SD. You have to have apps that can have paths changed and I guess you can still store pictures, music and other junk on the SD card but you'll end up using your internal 5GB for most app stuff whether you like it or not!!
So that's a big --- for me I forgot to add
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This is basically the same as the Vibrant (what I used to have until recently). That amount of available memory is plenty imho. The "sdcard, _externalsd" thing is getting to be pretty standard from what I understand. However, I could still move a great number of apps over to the external SD if I wanted (never really wanted to though).
I wouldn't have minded a bit more internal storage (coming from 16 Gig on the Vibrant), but 5 Gig is still pretty good. With 16, I really never used my external SD at all. With 5, I may have to put some on each or use the external as primary storage and internal for apps and roms (no big deal).

I'm picking 7mbps inside home which usually its not good signal. My Tb have very bad 4g signal inside here. But out when tb gets good lte signal it blows the G2x but overall its a great phone. A keeper
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MWBehr said:
This is basically the same as the Vibrant (what I used to have until recently). That amount of available memory is plenty imho. The "sdcard, _externalsd" thing is getting to be pretty standard from what I understand. However, I could still move a great number of apps over to the external SD if I wanted (never really wanted to though).
I wouldn't have minded a bit more internal storage (coming from 16 Gig on the Vibrant), but 5 Gig is still pretty good. With 16, I really never used my external SD at all. With 5, I may have to put some on each or use the external as primary storage and internal for apps and roms (no big deal).
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I agree, this will be fine for me, I'm used to my vibrant like that.. 5 is plenty for apps and data, then ill use my sd for multimedia ..

Awsome device, no problems.
Got it yesterday, charged it up. So no problems thus far. No reboots,no stalls.
Its as quick as hell, and seems to be holding a charge pretty well.
Holds a 4g signal better than the MyTouch 4g it replaced.
Screen is beautiful. Better than the SGS4G i replaced with the MT4G.
Contrary to what everyone is saying the 512mgs of ram seems to have no negative impact on performance.
IMO this would be an appropriate upgrade for anyone with a SGS4G,G2,MyTouch4G or Cliq 2. It screams speed.
fhaines

tsalate said:
It works right out the box.
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without having to pay tmo???

twoeleven99 said:
without having to pay tmo???
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I don't think they have a way to lock it down on a completely stock device.
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My tethering has worked from day one of getting Froyo on my N1 for free. No tmo charges added to my EMP plan.
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[Q] Coming from vibrant

Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums

medoo313 said:
Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums
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GB ROM's aren't fully stable just yet. And dev support is about 1/50th of what it is in the Vibrant section so it will take more time for it to pick up for the 4G. Also, internal memory sucks so you'll probably need apps2SD or something.
But there are plenty of great people here that will help you out, lots of good things should be coming to this phone in the future. The ROM bible in the dev section should provide you with a lot of rooting tips.
Good luck man.

Thanks for your respond mackster. I will be joining the game here soon.

one of the questions answered
so I did some more research on superoneclick and I see that is good for
Rooting and UnRooting
Correct me if I am Mistaking
but will someone till me why do i Delete Fota Files for ?

Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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lostsauce said:
Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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when you say internal memory isn't like 16 GB ? Like the vibrant ?

Internal Memory
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.

Exodian said:
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.
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oh man. i just figured that out too. that's not Nice

Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
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dsexton702 said:
Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
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Well. you made a point but as you know we're human likes the hole pie not missing any piece

I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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Exodian said:
I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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just got it but too bad i have to go to work. I will be playing with it tomorrow after noon