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http://androidspin.com/2010/07/02/open-source-3d-driver-for-snapdragon-released/
Will this mean anything for performance?
well i don't see why not. game developers should benefit from this too
Let's wait for the dev's to implement this
This should mean a performance improvement but I would not hold my breathe as to a huge improvement.
I dont really mind as I dont think a phone should be a games console.
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This should mean a performance improvement but I would not hold my breathe as to a huge improvement.
I dont really mind as I dont think a phone should be a games console.
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It's not a PSP, but a game once in a while doesn't hurt. This driver might open up some options for UIs as well and/or make them respond faster.
Open Source Kernel Driver, but Closed Source User Space Driver.
Won't help us much as much as we would like, unfortunately. Hope they'll release it fully so we all can make the best use of it.
Dave @ DRI-dev has had enough with these closed sources already :/
Just love what he's responding with:
"This is a can of worms I'd rather not enter into......"
"So you've upstreamed the kernel bits, kept the good userspace bits to yourselfs, are stroking them on your lap like some sort of Dr Evil......"
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2010-July/001828.html
and follow up:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2010-July/001829.html
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It's not a PSP, but a game once in a while doesn't hurt. This driver might open up some options for UIs as well and/or make them respond faster.
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I agree with that.
Just a few people on here were wanting Desire to be as good as IPhone 3GS for games when it does everything else better.
People just have to get used to the fact that no matter how good the graphics are it'll never be able to play games. For instance I had a game the other day which had a virtual joystick on the left and buttons on the right. Graphics were very good but sometimes lagged. But problem was when you had to run and jump, u couldn't because u can only press one button at a time. Which in my eyes is the worst flaw for the desire. How can a phone at this price in this day and age not support multitouch. What a con.
Other than that I'm happy with everything else but this is a big letdown to me and I'm sure many others.
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People just have to get used to the fact that no matter how good the graphics are it'll never be able to play games. For instance I had a game the other day which had a virtual joystick on the left and buttons on the right. Graphics were very good but sometimes lagged. But problem was when you had to run and jump, u couldn't because u can only press one button at a time. Which in my eyes is the worst flaw for the desire. How can a phone at this price in this day and age not support multitouch. What a con.
Other than that I'm happy with everything else but this is a big letdown to me and I'm sure many others.
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The Desire can happily track 2 touch points at any one time.
Games will see a vast improvement in quality once Froyo and Air based games arrive.
Just look at the game Angry Bird's, Best seller on iPhone & iPad and due to arrive on Android soon, you can see it on a Droid/Milestone here: http://www.rovio.com/index.php?mact=Blogs,cntnt01,showentry,0&cntnt01entryid=24&cntnt01returnid=58
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The Desire can happily track 2 touch points at any one time.
Games will see a vast improvement in quality once Froyo and Air based games arrive.
Just look at the game Angry Bird's, Best seller on iPhone & iPad and due to arrive on Android soon, you can see it on a Droid/Milestone here: http://www.rovio.com/index.php?mact=Blogs,cntnt01,showentry,0&cntnt01entryid=24&cntnt01returnid=58
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In theory yes it should track 2 touches but it doesn't. Trust me I've tried all sorts of games and emulators and it won't let you press more than one button at once. Try it you'll see. No updates will fix this as far as I'm aware its a hardware problem(cheap touchscreen).
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In theory yes it should track 2 touches but it doesn't. Trust me I've tried all sorts of games and emulators and it won't let you press more than one button at once. Try it you'll see. No updates will fix this as far as I'm aware its a hardware problem(cheap touchscreen).
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I did, I wrote my own app to test max touch points available (in Air 2.5) had it tracking 2 points no problem, on both 2.1 & 2.2.
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I did, I wrote my own app to test max touch points available (in Air 2.5) had it tracking 2 points no problem, on both 2.1 & 2.2.
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Yes I know about that app but like I said u try playing a game that supports multitouch and it doesn't work properly on the desire. For instance, assassins creed from gameloft had a lot of running and jumping and certain parts u need to do both at the same time yet its not possible which ended up in a lot of deaths and getting a refund. Yet the iPhone doesn't suffer from this. Maybe because it has 11 touch points.
I also hate the way every one says the desire isn't for gaming. Yet its market store has a lot of (incompatible) games. If u remember when the iPhone first came out it couldn't do anything, it didn't even have an appstore at first but now it plays amazing games. So fingers crossed, this problem will be fixed and the desire will catch-up with the games because believe it or not there are a lot of upset desire owners that want good games for the £350 phone.
gameloft are lazy. their android ports from iphone arent clean. i played real soccer on desire and it was poor. after a mazy run you are lucky to pass or score. fifa 10 on desire is a different kettle of fish. multitouch does work but not the best compaired to iphone
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In theory yes it should track 2 touches but it doesn't. Trust me I've tried all sorts of games and emulators and it won't let you press more than one button at once. Try it you'll see. No updates will fix this as far as I'm aware its a hardware problem(cheap touchscreen).
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it's a software problem, the phone can track two points but will also activate an area between those two points, this is how pinch-to-zoom works.
the solution is to include the area between the two points in the calibration for the buttons, so that you do not inadvertently activate buttons between the two that you want to press.
complicated but not impossible, they just need to properly port them
There's a developer called phhusson over at Modaco in the Acer liquid development. I think he solved the mt problem in his kernel.
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There's a developer called phhusson over at Modaco in the Acer liquid development. I think he solved the mt problem in his kernel.
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http://gitorious.org/~phhusson/liqu...mmit/f04fb63a17b8a50fb3ba9dfa3ee1b65eee805a1e
It's apparently fixable in the kernel. Cyanogen apparently had a fix but he never released it. Google promised as well to fix the multitouch bug on FroYo for the Nexus but I haven't heard anything else about that.
It would be nice to have the same smoothness as the iPhone, as in on interface parts.
K just read about the Unreal engine being used on some games for iPuke. I love android and all but I am freaking sick of the excuses. I have been on android since september of 08 with the g1 and I just don't get it. I'm telling you now google, unless you get moving on this I am going to have to move to the dark side for a much richer multimedia experience
I've waited too long as it is! I keep telling my son (who has friends with iPhones) to just wait, developers will come to android.....boo!
The gaming advocate recently left google which won't be helping.
I'd be happy with an official version of Scrabble.
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The gaming advocate recently left google which won't be helping.
I'd be happy with an official version of Scrabble.
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What the...?!? That's NOT what I asked for! Shoo! Shoo! You go away with your bad news! Can someone please find me a replacement who had good news? (And don't tell me about the Sony-Ericcson playstation droid whatever. I know about that)....
Android devices capable of really nice 3d gaming are just ~6 months old, so relax Did you saw Gameloft's games released recently? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxdZWhga0Vw
Also I don't really know, what do you want from Google? :-/ Maybe something like ADC, but for games.
wait for ginger
ginger bread is supposed to be more focus on gaming and multimedia (and terga 2 tablets wont hurt)
Relax. There has been some serious talk of a PSP Phone which can only mean that there is going to be some serious games running on android.
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ginger bread is supposed to be more focus on gaming and multimedia (and terga 2 tablets wont hurt)
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Mmmmmm Ginger....Oooh! MaryAnn...mmmmmm.....
Those gameloft games look pretty sweet. Now the vibrant has bt 3.0. I wonder if I could use my bt keyboard and mouse...hmmmmm
Hey guys. Im on t-mobile right now and i was wondering if i should stay with em and get the Galaxy S II, or switch to verizon and get the iPhone 5 when it comes out later this month. I dont really care about services and all that. All i care about is the phone itself and which one is better and has more features and all that good stuff.
Thanks in advanced!
Remember! Im only 13. Gimme a break!
Well if you like playing games...get the iPhone.
For two reasons:
1) The App Store in general has higher quality games (and a much larger selection). (Real Racing 2, Infinity Blade, Rage HD, etc.)
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285162 The A5 has much better graphics performance than the Exynos.
On the other hand if you love modding and tweaking your phone, Android FTW! Jailbreaking is rather limited in comparison.
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Well if you like playing games...get the iPhone.
For two reasons:
1) The App Store in general has higher quality games (and a much larger selection). (Real Racing 2, Infinity Blade, Rage HD, etc.)
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285162 The A5 has much better graphics performance than the Exynos.
On the other hand if you love modding and tweaking your phone, Android FTW! Jailbreaking is rather limited in comparison.
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I can confirm that about Real Racing 2. I have it on my iPhone 4 and it's, to me, a smartphone version of Gran Turismo from the Playstation for gameplay and physics. Just a superb smartphone racing game. And the games on iPhone do tend to be superior.
Of course there is going to be a bias in this forum. However, all bias aside, what till the iPhones press release to see what it has to offer. Then decide if a functional phone (with all its downfalls in what I choose for a phone os, it is a very functional phone out of the box. Can't deny that) is for you, or if you like the freedom of android (where my bias lies ) choose that. Although android has flaws like ios, wp7 or any other, SGS2 did a great job of tackling some based on reviews I have read. Based on this and test driving them both, make your decision. Either way have fun with your shiny new toy. Also you could wait for the next nexus, which has me torn between that and the SGS2.
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In all honesty this is like a PC versus Mac comparison. The Galaxy S II is going to be a remarkable phone specs wise, and going by the benchies I've seen the software is great to boot, but Apple is good at appealing to what some people want. An easy UI, while locked down, providing a great experience, but nonetheless I'm far from being an apple fan, with their locked down environment, you wonder why it's called jailbreaking when you root your phone? The fact of the matter is (to me), people are going to flock to the Iphone 5 because of the marketing hype, those in the know will grab the Galaxy SII because they know what's up.
im gonna have to agree to disagree. the galaxy s2 does have some great games as well made by non other Gameloft. asphalt 6 is great looking on the s2, you got games from EA like Need for Speed and many more...For the person who said you can tweak the galaxy s2 more than the iphone you are completely and utterly wrong. for me when i had my iphone 4 i tweaked it up so much it looked like a car out of pimp my ride once i finished with it..in cydia there are so many hundreds of tweaks and stuff that you can do is unbelieavable....also there is an application called dreamboard were you can change so many themes..go on youtube to check it out...
all in all though its down to you little buddy what you want to choose.. i have the galaxy s2 and im very happy...does what i need and my next phone will probably be the s3 if it comes out or shall i say when it comes out....but if you want quality games or shall i say more games then the iphone is the one for you...but true wait tilll they announce it and see what its like
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im gonna have to agree to disagree. the galaxy s2 does have some great games as well made by non other Gameloft. asphalt 6 is great looking on the s2, you got games from EA like Need for Speed and many more...For the person who said you can tweak the galaxy s2 more than the iphone you are completely and utterly wrong. for me when i had my iphone 4 i tweaked it up so much it looked like a car out of pimp my ride once i finished with it..in cydia there are so many hundreds of tweaks and stuff that you can do is unbelieavable....also there is an application called dreamboard were you can change so many themes..go on youtube to check it out...
all in all though its down to you little buddy what you want to choose.. i have the galaxy s2 and im very happy...does what i need and my next phone will probably be the s3 if it comes out or shall i say when it comes out....but if you want quality games or shall i say more games then the iphone is the one for you...but true wait tilll they announce it and see what its like
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The problem with the whole "Games" thing is that Apple was first to the punch, and they release a static platform, while me personally I dislike anything apple, the fact is that most companies that produce games go for what works, and sadly iOS is the first in line they develop for, stats wise though if they released games for the Android platform things would be much different, but I guess most people have an Apple on the brain so a lot of the good stuff we see for the iOS won't hit Android.
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The problem with the whole "Games" thing is that Apple was first to the punch, and they release a static platform, while me personally I dislike anything apple, the fact is that most companies that produce games go for what works, and sadly iOS is the first in line they develop for, stats wise though if they released games for the Android platform things would be much different, but I guess most people have an Apple on the brain so a lot of the good stuff we see for the iOS won't hit Android.
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true true...but if you look we do have some amazing games for the android though...just because iOS gets first dips doesnt mean we dont have any good ones..and if you read you will see in the next few months dev will be working hard on bringing some exclusives games to android first but anyway if someone wants to buy a phone purely for games they might as well buy a console...
no offence but, I am kind of disappointed by this thread because it seems to me people here have gaming as their number 1 priority.
Dude he's 13. When I was 13 I played games all day on my iPod touch.
I am with Android all the way unless the Iphone comes out with dual GSM CDMA support built in then i am Iphone due to the fact that i like to travel with my phone and give my old phones to relatives over seas.
iPhone is better for you if you like games, simplicity and if you are happy with stock features . Android in general is better for modding and upgrading etc. Jailbreak is limited.
just go for iphone
won't regret
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iPhone is better for you if you like games, simplicity and if you are happy with stock features . Android in general is better for modding and upgrading etc. Jailbreak is limited.
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The only thing you can't do with jailbroken iPhone is change kernels,and cpu speed so saying it's limited is really wrong. Jail broken iPhone has lots of possibilities since the apps they have are way more polished than android apps. Idk why would you change cpu speed and kernels anyway they run flawlessly.
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I finally had a chance to play with the SGS2 this morning. Although a very nice phone, I saw nothing better than the Infuse 4G. Everything the SGS2 has the Infuse has or will have except the dual core CPU and NFC. The Infuse display is not only the same as the SGS2, but is also larger. The styles are almost the same, except the Infuse uses an unbroken black-chrome bezel from front to back. The SGS2 uses a partial black-chrome surround around the front.
As for Gingerbread, the Infuse will eventually have that.
My suggestion would be to wait for the iPhone 5 and see how it fares.
iphone it is!!
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The only thing you can't do with jailbroken iPhone is change kernels,and cpu speed so saying it's limited is really wrong. Jail broken iPhone has lots of possibilities since the apps they have are way more polished than android apps. Idk why would you change cpu speed and kernels anyway they run flawlessly.
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Well for sgs 2 I do change my cpu speed. However not for overclocking, but for underclocking. The thing is that on 800mhz, it still runs like it is on 1.2ghz and can handle anything currently available, so why not just save my phone the waste of using my up battery on something unneeded.
Or...wait for the Nexus Prime. Not only will it decimate iPhone 5 AND the SII specwise, it'll be loaded with ICS. iPhone is seeing the end of it's days and Apple knows it. Thats why all the "groundbreaking" and "game changing" features they're introducing with iOS 5, are features that already are, and have been available on Android since 1.0. They're blatantly copying Android to keep the iPhone relevant. And even if you do go with the SII, it will probably be seeing an ICS update not long after the Prime is released, so you're SII will have just become better(again) than the just released iPhone. Simple decision I think...
At the end of the day, Samsung will always be miles ahead of Apple when it comes to hardware, with things like screen quality and processing power; and this is because Samsung is competing against other manufacturers such as HTC and Motorola, because android users can choose more than one handset (thank God.)
However Apple doesn't really need to compete, its got a following of...I'm not sure tbh, but its enough to make them the richest company in America.
I'm far from a fan of Apple, but I doubt they're too bothered when it comes to who releases the better handset; considering the fanboy following they have.
Well spec wise, i think the Iphone 5 will come out on top with it's sgx 543mp2 GPU. if it performs practically more than 100% better than the Mali on the sgs2 when running a 720p gaming benchmark test, well that's just a huge facepalm right there.
And as said if you want gaming, the iPhone 5 is your bet for now. The iOs platform holds the gaming spotlight right now and will prolly till say the next yr or 8 months till it will share the spotlight with android.
So I am a huge android gamer. I do not have a pc except at work and i do not have any console systems at home. I am really loving the development that is going on with some stuff Ive seen. Unity 3d and cloud gaming is gonna be huge i think.
My goal with this thread is to try to gather some of us android gamers together. I play all day at work and at home. I need something more than Modern Combat 4 haha. Its a great game but im looking for some huge sprawler. I have seen wildblood from gameloft, looks amazing. I am trying to figure out what people are playing on this device. maybe develop a little support thread for us gamers to unite and share what we have found with each other. I havent really been able to find anything about it anywhere for our device. seems all the attention is always on the one x. our phones are powerful....lets unleash it!
I agree. I'm down to play whatever multi player/coop games we have. Let me know!!
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I would be too. I guess MC4 multi is only on wifi, but im sure there are some good things out there. I really am sort of enjoying Aralon. Played it?
Am i to assume that really no one plays any games on our device?!
Its too small to do any serious gaming on
What do you mean too small? I play stuff on it all the time. Classic games for sure. I even tried OnLive and demoed the free demo for Darksiders 2 and it worked awesome. Im trying to figure out pairing my ps3 controller for better use, but you could even do mhl out and play dead trigger and whatnot with a ps3 controller. Havent heard of the Ouya? well our phone is powerful as well, i see no need to buy a console when i have one in my hand.
Figuring out compatibility with games that I know the unit could run, i.e. Horn and Six Guns. Let me know if anyone is interested in this as well, I think we should work together as I see no real gaming support community out there. If anyone knows one please let me know.
Too small: When using touchkeys, your fingers covers half the screen and you cant see where youre going
Controller, sure, but unless you have one that can dock the phone, you face another problem - the screen is too far away and therefore too small.
Now a tablet on the other hand have plenty of space for your fingers and can easily be seen when using a controller
So, therefore: The One S is too small for serious gaming
Edit: Whats wrong with six guns? Seems to work just fine?
gameklip acttaches phone to controller. i can play fine with touch controls, maybe youre not a good gamer.
woa that was uncalled for. In that case - maybe youre an 8 year old girl with paperthin fingers?
maybe, im just saying that why should i have multiple devices? i already have a powerful device.
No one said that. You asked if you were to assume nobody played games on the one S, and I answered "its too small" as the reason as to why I dont play 'hardcore' on it.
And Im sure Im not alone.
well thats a great answer i guess. Now as far as people that would actually like to do so? any input there?
Why Why Why? Nobody download our game ... ...
The game is Color Lines (4 in 1)
We spent almost two months to build it last year, and we combined four attractive games together , but till now only a few downloads per day, why?:crying::crying:
Can some body tell me why?
You can check the game here --
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fourinone
Add features that would attract people on the Google Play store..
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what features?
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Add features that would attract people on the Google Play store..
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Get rid of the poorly autotranslated program descriptions. They sound ridiculous, at least in German. Use English text instead or look for good translators.
Try to include important keywords into your app desription, like the title of the original games - but in a "natural" manner.
The visual style of your game is not appealing. Use a better font, do not use "dirty grey* backgrounds. Use flat graphics. Try to get inspiration by games like Dots and Threes.
It looks like your game is quite hard to play on a 4" device. Try to make your assets bigger.
You've given us no reason to play your game.... What's your pitch? Convince me, make me NEED to download it right away.
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Note: HD/FHD support only. For example - Galaxy Nexus 4/5/7, Galaxy S3/4, Note 2/3, Xperia Z, Moto X, G2 and HTC One etc.
Your target devices have amazing hardware inside. your game should be able to tap into that powerful hardware resource available.
Otherwise target the low end android devices to improve the game popularity nad bugs and then work your way upto the flagships !!
You should also do more to promote your game. Go on Google+, start a blog, etc. You can't just depend on word of mouth, you have to self promote.
I generally love when people try pushing their apps into the store,but this game does not look attentive at all.Just because you worked on an app for a long time doesn't mean it will be a hit.
People like hd, possibly 3d apps that aren't too complicated.
Average people want a simple game to kill time,which is attractive. I don't know how to describe, but you must have talent for it xD
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Get rid of the poorly autotranslated program descriptions. They sound ridiculous, at least in German. Use English text instead or look for good translators.
Try to include important keywords into your app desription, like the title of the original games - but in a "natural" manner.
The visual style of your game is not appealing. Use a better font, do not use "dirty grey* backgrounds. Use flat graphics. Try to get inspiration by games like Dots and Threes.
It looks like your game is quite hard to play on a 4" device. Try to make your assets bigger.
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thanks, we will try to improve it
Nexus 4, S3 is low today, i think.
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Note: HD/FHD support only. For example - Galaxy Nexus 4/5/7, Galaxy S3/4, Note 2/3, Xperia Z, Moto X, G2 and HTC One etc.
Your target devices have amazing hardware inside. your game should be able to tap into that powerful hardware resource available.
Otherwise target the low end android devices to improve the game popularity nad bugs and then work your way upto the flagships !!
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I generally love when people try pushing their apps into the store,but this game does not look attentive at all.Just because you worked on an app for a long time doesn't mean it will be a hit.
People like hd, possibly 3d apps that aren't too complicated.
Average people want a simple game to kill time,which is attractive. I don't know how to describe, but you must have talent for it xD
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could you please download and try them all?
Does anybody download and play all these 4 games, and give me a comment?
4 games in the app,
which one you like most?
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Nexus 4, S3 is low today, i think.
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But vast majority of user have budget devices when newly launched. These devices were launched as flagships ( flagships are not brought by majority of people ).
Try improving the basic graphics of game so that, it does not give an impression of a cheap or free game even if small in size.
Release the app on iOS and Windows store . Since iOS popular games are more blindly followed into the Play Store popularity ratings by blogs.
This will give enough popularity fir your game.
See the problem is you are good in designing and all , but you need to learn to market your skills to people also. you need to highlight your plus points more visibly in the already crowded world of apps & games.
make people notice the difference.
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Atleast make the GAME ICON in play store ATTRACTIVE or of HD quality.
Honestly , with the current icon, even when i am searching for a game and title meets the requirement, i would likely skip it for some spam and all.
Cause it looks like many other games out there already popular, just in different background. There are still a lot of games that can be played on budget hardware, I still use my evo 4g on cm11 and run a lot of the games I like that came out this year.
And now to me you've made it to where people will point and laugh and say that's the dev crying nobody's downloading they're app...actually, that is good marketing lol
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Well as stated only having such a poor quality game that's HD only! These are simple games but to be honest having a HTC One S and that's apparently not good enough for your game kinda makes me think screw it, there are plenty of better looking similar apps that do work.
for starters, change that icon, it's terrible, less cold colors and more white would be great
Improve the ui, it's horrible
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Need to improve your UI, also try to come up with something new...
Need to improve the title of the thread (immature, for god sake) or is tactic to attract more viewers!? Then I try your app, give 5 stars & my thanks too.