Fascinate or HTC Incredible? - General Questions and Answers

Looking for some thoughts, and opinions....sepcs, hardware(all) comparison, camera quality, in call quality, etc.. just overall thoughts!!? I'm asking because I'm contemplating doing a 30 day exchange for a Fascinate.
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My gf is thinking about this as phone as well.
I have an incredible and it's what i would personally choose after looking at the specs and software differences.
There are definitely things about the fascinate i like... notification drop down menu that includes common on/off switches like GPS, wifi, bluetooth... of course the Super AMOLED Screen... the app menu scrolls left to right...stock battery is 1500 mah... and... that's about it really.
i find the biggest disadvantage (to me) of the fascinate is 2 GBs of internal storage!! wtf? seriously samsung? what a joke. and of course there is the Bing problem (for non-rooted users)... i guess the bing problem might go away with the froyo update? who knows..
anyways, it's not my decision and i wont push the incredible onto my gf. there is definitely a part of me that wants to mess around with the samsung and check out the sweet screen it has.
if i got the samsung i would totally root it but i personally would NOT root her phone. i just don't want to be responsible and i also don't want to feel like i need to "maintain" her phone by updating ROMs for her.. on the other hand if she got the incredible i would probably root it just because there are very STABLE ROMs for it now.
so really, the decision is between a rooted incredible or a stock samsung.

HTC is overall the best of the best

just talked it over... i told her to go for the samsung just because of the 30 day return/trade in policy... i mean why not? plus i get to play with it.
apparently it comes with a 16 GB sd card which is pretty sweet, but i find the 2 GB of internal memory makes it pretty much mandatory to go the apps2sd route. On the incredible i don't even care about apps2sd with 8 GBs of internal storage.
anyways, ill be checkin the dev forum for the fascinate daily now... rooting seems to be a MUST if i chose the samsung.

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Captivate Owners!

I just wanted to know what made you guys buy the captivate? At first I was going to but the Aria but changed my mind at the last minute. I wasn't interested in the captivate because if the size of the phone, but I said "what the heck" and got it to try it. I had intentions on returning it, but as you can tell, it never made it back to the AT&T store....
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Besides being an Android phone, screen size was the biggest reason I got it. Phones done good for me.
I dropped my aria two months after I purchased and busted the screen. $250 and a week later, I received my captivate from ebay. Im very glad I got the phone but I miss my stable cyanogenmod the aria had.
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I bought it due to fairly good reviews on it and could do lot more than my old winmo phone. It had a great screen size and has high resolution.
I found the hard way that it had lot of delayed updates for it and gps issues as well. I still kept it because its far better than winmo. It was a deal that was hard to beat, for me.
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Why? Simple. I waited for nearly two years for AT&T to release an Android phone that wasn't a total piece of crap. This was it. AT&T passed on the G1 and the N1 because they were too busy catering to the iPhone. Like I was really going to buy an HTC Lancaster?
I bought it for its potential. Stock this phone is meh, but with custom ROMs it is a Nexus S that gives up the front camera for an extra micro sd slot.
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i got it for the screen. at first i got an aria, great little phone, but once att dropped the $100 rebate i made the switch because with 2.1 the aria had too little storage for apps. yeah i went app crazy at first. and without 2.2 i could not do app to sd
also the cost of a large sd card vs the captivate having 14 usable internal + all the other features of the captivate it seemed like a no brainer. after i got the captivate i did have alittle buyers remorse though. the rom was meh. thee update made it better but it wasnt the update we were anticipating and by then i was already using a beta leak and utb.
i miss fm radio, the lazer mouse, the browser(text was always readable) and other things but removing the batery and sd card is a pain in the arse on the aria, and if you do it too many times the cover loosens up and the antennas can get poor reception.
on the captivate i enjoy flashing roms with little fear of bricking with the availability of odin3. the screen of coarse, the headphones, 46 gigs of storage, unbeaten graphics chip so far(hard to believe it holds that title this long) the camera, and the fact that nobody seems to know what the hell it is. but we all know about the gps issues samsungs delayed updates and various incompatabilities with proprietary samsung code like the wii mote app.
Screen size and because I found this phone to be the prettiest of any phone I've seen and android.
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the hardware was (is) incredible. turns out the software, not so much .
I have been all over the place with phones had never tried android before never was there a phone worth it on att to get and I didn't feel like getting an unlocked g2. This phone even with its issues is still a good and solid phone. Could use a few things like flash in the camera like its brother has. But the Nice size internal memory almost 16gigs for w.e u want plus a micro SD so your good for as lil a 2 gigs or as much as 32 more which is great. No fear or running out of room. Screen is really good just over all design it grabs a lot of attention
I got it because AT&T only had this or the aria as far as Android devices went at the time. Plus, gorgeous screen, super fast yada yada.. also promise of a update soon.
Starting to regret returning my iPhone 4 sadly.
1. Screen (super-amoled + size + vibrant color)
2. CPU
3. Best GPU performance in smartphone to date. The olympus and some of the coming Tegra 2's might change that.
i had an iphone 3g and was wanting to try something new so i wanted an android was going to get the aria but when captivate came out i bought this instead.
The release of my first choice, a Nokia N8 5 band UMTS world phone, was delayed so I bought the Captivate, my second choice. I almost didn't buy it because of the GPS issue. I like the Android OS and the super AMOLED display. I lucked into making the right choice.
I had the iPhone 3G and then the 3Gs, got burned out on ios, android was the obvious choice and the Captivate had top of the line hardware. GPS works fine, if you really need a reliable GPS then u really should get a standalone GPS device, and for music junkies get a stand alone mp3 player.
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I'm not from the USA, but i like the device.
Runs great!
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I had the iPhone 3G and then the 3Gs, got burned out on ios, android was the obvious choice and the Captivate had top of the line hardware. GPS works fine, if you really need a reliable GPS then u really should get a standalone GPS device, and for music junkies get a stand alone mp3 player.
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I wouldn't say that the GPS works fine. Maybe for you it does, but I don't think it's acceptable for my phone to thing that I'm in Philadelphia or Oakland or even Germany when I'm really in Southern California. There is a major issue with LBS on this phone and I can't wait to get rid of it. IF you don't care about location based services, this is an amazing phone. I love everything else about it.
I bought it for the screen and for Android. I was going to hold out for a bigger screen HTC phone to make its way to AT&T but my old phone died before that happened. I am not currently having the GPS issues. Just waiting for the upgrade to 2.2.
1. The only galaxy s phone on at&t .
2. The only phone with mkv and h264 high profile playback .
Extra reason 16gb internal plus can add 32gb micro sdcard which I did 48gb media awesomeness *drool*
I had an aria but i just had this feeling that i was going to regret it in two years, so i traded for the next up

Need help, great opportunity for me.

Well I contacted the retentions department at AT&T and the lady I spoke to was extremely nice. Basically, the deal is:
- I get $20 for the next three months
- I get to keep my Captivate
- I get to choose any AT&T phone except the iPhone come May 9
- The Atrix will be available to me for $150 in May
Questions:
1. What should I do with my Captivate? I have to use it till May, but should I sell it then? How much would I be able to get? I don't really want to give it to my mom because it has so many problems.
2. How does the Atrix compare to the Captivate? I really want an exact, extensive breakdown.
3. When May comes, will there be a better phone to get than the Atrix?
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I guess another option is the SGS2.
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I guess another option is the SGS2.
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never again.
Yeah, I'll probably run away from samsung, fast.
Good idea?
1. Don't know how much you can get for it. A quick way to check would to be to simply go on ebay and do a search. You can also hang on to it and use it as a backup or a developer phone, if you're into that sort of thing.
2. Are you asking for a breakdown of hardware differences or overall user experience? Hardware differences are that the Atrix has a dual code tegra2 cpu (each core at 1ghz) though I'm pretty sure it isn't being utilized properly with the current firmware, qHD 540x960 LCD panel as the display, 1930mAh battery, 1024mb ddr2 ram, hdmi port, ships with android 2.2.. probably some other stuff I'm leaving out.
Reports regarding user experience vary. Some people like it and say it is very responsive, others say the screen, while very sharp, is dull and doesn't have nearly the color depth of amoled screens, and hate the fact that it ships filled with unremoveable bloatware, sideloading disabled, and general ATT douchebaggery. Just browse around and read some reviews. Engadget had a pretty decent one.
The thing that kills the Atrix for me is that Motorola insists on busting everyone's balls by shipping it with a signed/encrypted bootloader, and signed system files. Quite honestly, I'd prefer my Captivate to the Atrix for this reason alone.
3. The HTC Inspire 4g, Samsung Infuse 4g and Atrix 4g will all be out around May (or at least that's what I've read), if you insist on staying with ATT. Not sure about what will be released on other carriers, but I also hear that the Sony XPeria ARC is a good one to look out for.
If you are always waiting for the next best phone you will always be waiting. Jump ship when you are bored
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At the top of your screen you will see a link for the device DB. Use it to compare the the Atrix to well what ever you want. They are right though if you are always waiting for the next big thing then you will always be waiting. It seems with the speed at which things are progressing there will always be something newer in or around the 3 to 6 month point.
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Well I contacted the retentions department at AT&T and the lady I spoke to was extremely nice. Basically, the deal is:
- I get $20 for the next three months
- I get to keep my Captivate
- I get to choose any AT&T phone except the iPhone come May 9
- The Atrix will be available to me for $150 in May
Questions:
1. What should I do with my Captivate? I have to use it till May, but should I sell it then? How much would I be able to get? I don't really want to give it to my mom because it has so many problems.
2. How does the Atrix compare to the Captivate? I really want an exact, extensive breakdown.
3. When May comes, will there be a better phone to get than the Atrix?
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I picked up a Atrix today. I also have a Captivate. The first thing you will notice is the difference in screens. Some people will say one is better than the other, but it is all user perception. Some people like saturated colors(AMOLED) some people don't. It's best to take a look at one in the store. I do not mind the Atrix screen, after a week of use probably won't notice the colors not being saturated anymore.
I think I am impressed the most with the battery. The battery on my Captivate killed me, I was always trickle charging. Even after the first charge on the Atrix the battery runs circles around my Captivate.
For people complaining about the Atrix being sluggish, I haven't noticed it. Stock it pulled a little over 2500 in Quadrant, my Captivate with yesterdays leaked Froyo pulled barley over 1000 at stock. Hopefully this will only improve once 2.4 is released with dual core support. Text is alot clearer for me. The high resolution makes everything smaller so that takes a little getting used to, but its a good thing. Fingerprint scanner is actually nice and works great. HDMI out is pretty sweet to have finally. I thought it was supposed to have a FM radio, but doesn't. GPS works great, it is nice to have a working GPS again. Overall the phone is a beast. The only disappointment I have and it is a big.... the signed bootloader is bogus.
The Samsung Infuse might be out by then, but like alot of others here...."never again"
I'm curious as to how you got ATT to agree to this? Did you have a history of problems? How long are you into your captivate contract?

Should i trade My Captivate for Desire Z?

As the title says it, should i trade it for desire z? ive read some stuff online, like i know captivate has an amazing screen, looks good, bigger screen , samoled, but the thing is it sells for less like 350$ if your lucky.. should i do it?
Should i wear the Blue Shirt or the Green Shirt?
green btw b honest lol .
I, personally, would take the trade. I prefer the look and feel of the Desire Z (though the keys are a bit small), and being an HTC device, it tends to have a much larger community following/support (like cyanogenmod and the like)... but that's just my opinion on it
inital rooting and stuff is a bit more in-depth than captivate but it is totally doable and had many of the same options. i originally was going to get the Z because it has keyboard too. after looking into the extra crap i was kind of releaved. check out the XDA wiki on that phone for more info
I like the desire z, I'm partial to HTC products and the use of adb tools mainly because I have zero formal training in any computer training. Using adb to root has a certain wow factor for me. However I had the inspire for a week and returned it after bringing it back to stock form. I just couldn't justify paying the full retail price for it. So, now I'm back to the captivate using cog 4 and have a new renowned love for this phone. Ultimately its up to you. I personally think the captivate is a great device especially with a base froyo and GPS being fixed. Build quality would go to HTC though. I hope this helped as its a long rant.
I was really not impressed with the inspire, or sense for that matter.
After messing around with the inspire for two days and seeing how much stuff sense adds in it actually makes me feel less bad about t-wiz. With touch wiz after you delete the launcher and some samsung apk's, alls that's left is twframework which besides adding some small cosmetic stuff adds the shortcuts to the pull down menu, which I like. The inspire had more htc apks than almost the total amount of apks in my rom. There was almost 60 framework files before deodexing the inspire. The inspire is generally quick as far as cpu stuff, like app to qr. I use this app sometimes for a real life cpu task tests when testing kernels and whatnot. The inspire will generate the apps 2-3 times faster than the captivate. Despite this, the captivate just feels waaaaaay smoother and LESS laggy mostly I guess because the GPU is so much better.
i have been using my HTC Vision (Tmob G2) unlocked with my ATT card (most of my time is spent on wifi anyway) and while i absolutely love the battery life i get with the DesireZ rom on it, i hate the keyboard. i have been trying to force myself to use it more and more, but i keep wanting to go back to one of my captivates and swype....i feel the trial period wont last long now...my cappies are calling my name
Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Dilli, my exact feeling. That's why when I had ilthe inspire I removed sense completely. Its a beautiful fast phone with launcherpro minus the tiny battery but I could not justify the full retail price.
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Yup I did the same thing. Instead of wasting my early upgrade on a phone that's hardware is gonna be outdated very(if not already) soon when it seems like this year is gonna bring some crazy phones and cpus and whatnot. I paid the full 450 for it, returned it about a week later and bought the atrix for 400. Despite the whole bootloader issue, the atrix IS without a doubt the fastest phone I've ever used, even if the system is not fully utilizing its dual core yet, which I kinda hope its not cause when it does, its gonna be insane. And running app to qr on the atrix is even almost twice as fast as the inspire, probably 4 times faster than the captivate, plus so far is buttery smooth. The inspire was almost a tradeoff for a little bit of speed but greatly reduced smoothness. Atrix so far has both, plus I actually like the screen a lot.
wow damn, but if anything i can always sell it for more, in canada desire z sells for 400$ plus, captivate.. barley sells and its furstrating since captivate is better in aspects of screen weight and stuff and battery is better!! Inspire is the Desire HD in canada? seriously you guys didnt like that/ that looks like a sick device, anyways might go for a red torch xD sell it and add about 100$ and buy a new iphone4 front facing camera <3
I would take a captivate or an inspire for that matter any day of the week over an iphone 4. Had one of those too, along with every other iphone and was very involved in the jailbreak scene, up until I tried android. There's no way ill EVER go back to ios. This is my opinion, but ios completely sucks compared to android. You'll be bored with it in a week, even if you jailbreak. I would literally rather have a captivate on stock 2.1 than a jailbroken iphone 4
really? dont get me wrong android is nice, but i like to have that GPS option working on an iphone than not workin on a captivate + i personally dont like the touch buttons prefer the one form i9000

Goodbye Captivate hello htc inspire

I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
You mean you switched to a phone that has 2 doors that dont fit on the back and a camera that sticks out and the edges of the aluminum body protrude past the screen?
At least you can fix the software problems with the cappy...LOL just playing....enjoy
yep and like everything about it, nothing about cap i actually liked, was just only decent android phone att had at time. cappy felt like a little girl phone, and hated the plastic and the galaxy s sticking out all rough on the back, oh and the usb slot on top like how much thought was actually put into that? talking on the phone and its sticking out the top? Holding the htc in hand feels like quality and quite pleased with it, yes the battery door is rough to take off first few times but it loosens up, and atleast it has a flash.
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I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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I think I'm just about ready to join you.
Having to pay $399 off-contract to get the insipre sux, though. I'll have to sell my captivate, and I'm not sure whether to do it via Craigslist or eBay... just a hassle I wish I didn't have to deal with.
It'd be a lot easier if att would just take this phone back and give me credit towards the inspire, but I ain't gonna hold my breath for that one.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
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My early upgrade doesn't come til July, and I'm not gonna wait that long. It's getting harder and harder to hold out with all the happy captivate->inspire defections that are growing by the day ;-)
That's pretty encouraging on the Craigslist thing, I must say. That'll be the way I go, when this swap goes down.
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Love the inspire hardware, hate the software and from reading their development forums it seems like a much different community than ours.
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Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had my hands on both devices today. I agree about the screen size of the Atrix. It was just too small, and I didnt care for the feel of it either. Now the Inspire on the other hand, was REALLY nice, not to mention, $99.99 with a 2 yr, if I hadn't just done my upgrade on my Captivate. I'd give the Inspire a serious look.
There were a couple things that I think make the Cap a better phone. The Cap has the Hummingbird processor, and comes with double the internal memory the Inspire does. But the Inspire has a 8mp camera with flash. There aren't too many other devices that have that one. THe screen is a little bigger, and it really does feel pretty good, nice solid build
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I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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did you happen to also notice a difference in call quality and battery life?
i was thinking of getting the inspire, but decided on the captivate since there were more things one can do on it.
i have to say that both phones look really nice though.
i love the captivate hardware, it's super slim, great screen, fast hummingbird, but the software blows. hopefully we can fix it with aosp builds until my contract is up again.
Only 12gb of storage is a big minus for me. Everything else look good though. I change phones once a year so by the time november rolls around something way better than the cappy and the inspire will be available.
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Volume & Signal ???
So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
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So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
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I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
If memory is your prob just buy more its not that much, everything is more snappy its faster and i have great signal. Love the screen and i love sense ui built in theme support way more widgets and better widgets, htc sense to find your phone from web or ring it or remote wipe or lock is really kool. usb port on bottom as opposed to top on captivate which btw is the most retarded design flaw, who likes a charging cord pullig on top of phone especially car charger with the spiral cord? audio sounds really good to me on it better then on captivate, lets not forge dual led flash for camera, which is also 8mp led blinking notification on front which i loved on droid x but captivate lacked, bigger screen!
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So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
Mkv doesnt need to be re-encoded, mkv is only a wrapper, use a program called tsmuxer, i can do a 20g mkv in like 2 min its switchs the container file type, like mt2s or other compatiable file types and u can stream whatever to the tv so I got no problems with that.
Btw in 6 months there will be new phones out that are even better u are correct on that and i will be upgrading then aswell if they have a decent one out.
What's this whole gold card stuff? Looks like a monumental task tio root the thing ?
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Sold my captivate for 250 on craigslist and bought my Inspire off contract. Definitely the best decision I have made in a long time. I dont find myself missing anything about the captivate. I will always be buying HTC from now even if they dont start pumping out dual core phones. I take software over hardware.
Sold my captivate on ebay for $300 and currently have my wife's listed as well. Bought two new off contract inspire's and have been 100% happier than I ever was with any ROM on the captivate.
2 of my brothers just switched to inspire aswell and love it, captivate was never something that made me like wow i love this phone was just i love android. Now I love the phone like i did my droid x and te stock htc software is kool the way it is. Want root for it but no need to change roms.

Is this the bastard child of HTC?

Not to be a little rude, but I'm beginning to think this is the only HTC phone no one cares about.
I picked one up at bestbuy today and I love the form factor, the keyboard is amazing. But.. AT&T's bloatware can't be removed and due to the extremely small internal storage it's impossible to deal with it. I'm probably gonna end up taking it back.
These reasons follow.
1. Can't be rooted unless it's S-OFF
2. Screen is small (smaller than the Veer, which i had before the status)
3. HTC sense on this thing is terrible.
4. Skype doesn't even support it's front camera
5. It doesn't seem like the developer community cares to much for the little chacha/status.
It's a nice phone but it's not something I'd keep around. It's what I'd sorta call one of HTC's best work. I've had a few HTC phones and this is the best, in terms of the loud speaker, call quality and the keyboard. but the small internal memory and no rooting just kills it.
Don't be too hasty, this phone is actually good.
Factory reset fixes mem issue. Launcher pro replaces sense for iphone like speed and smoothness. Replace browser with opera mini, gallery with quickpic and sms with handcent and you're good to go. Go to your local phone guy for s-off and have your way with this little beast.
+1 for what zebdi said.
I s-off'ed my phone for 9-10 euros, rooted it myself then removed all bloatware. All done
Yeah im actually tempted to keep it mainly because the keyboard is just amazing. wish there was a free way to root the phone though.
Yep, once you are rooted it rocks.
Tbh even after I rooted I lost a little faith but once I cleared the bloat and used link2sd with an ext parted SD card , it works like a dream. Even if screen is a little small, the phone isn't huge so its acceptable!
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