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Is there some sort of work around to play tegra only games on non tegra devices?
I don't think you can
SteveCheeseman said:
Is there some sort of work around to play tegra only games on non tegra devices?
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Different Libraries/drivers & higher performance for Tegra - so a no go.
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Different Libraries/drivers & higher performance for Tegra - so a no go.
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I have an sgs2 with exynos chip but I can play guerrilla bob THD version smooth and w/no glitches
I will try other games
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Different Libraries/drivers & higher performance for Tegra - so a no go.
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How can the Tegra 1Ghz give a higher performace??? no, it's possible that the code written for the Tegra gives better performance than running on a different chipset maybe, but not if the code is written to work on all... I personally believe Tegra are building there own gaming market so that HW companies will move to there chipset, but that's bad (I can think of stronger words!) and it's not the Android way!
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How can the Tegra 1Ghz give a higher performace??? no, it's possible that the code written for the Tegra gives better performance than running on a different chipset maybe, but not if the code is written to work on all... I personally believe Tegra are building there own gaming market so that HW companies will move to there chipset, but that's bad (I can think of stronger words!) and it's not the Android way!
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I agree, that's what they are trying to do but the Tegra chip is a dual core 1GHz which gives better performance then just a single core 1GHz.
Yes... probably...read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081801&page=4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAJptywT8Q
Have fun ;D
I thought this phone had tegra inside. Why can't I download any tegra games (pinball) or use the Tegra Zone?
It's a Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, not the Nvidia Tegra 2
Why in the world did I think this was a Tegra? Dang. Buyer's remorse.
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if the sensation was tooted, we could play some (most of ?) Tegra games on our devices, unsing Tegra fix, Chainfire 3D drivers, etc
So far, and as I had no choice, I just found a "special" version of Pinball HD for Tegra2, that is compatible with non-Tegra devices.
So yes, I installes a warez, blame me, fire me, but I didn't have choice, I would have bought this game if my Sensation had been rooted and then I could get this game legally.
Tegrazone
Hmm i can install the tegra zone... and the game "Dungeon Defenders" works good...
i dont know why the tegrazone are @ the market 4 me )
games like samurai II vengance are only locked but playable with patches from XDA (i think)
you can install Tegra Zone, sure, but it won't let you install the games.
And to apply the patch you're talking about, you need root
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if the sensation was tooted, we could play some (most of ?) Tegra games on our devices, unsing Tegra fix, Chainfire 3D drivers, etc
So far, and as I had no choice, I just found a "special" version of Pinball HD for Tegra2, that is compatible with non-Tegra devices.
So yes, I installes a warez, blame me, fire me, but I didn't have choice, I would have bought this game if my Sensation had been rooted and then I could get this game legally.
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If the Sensation was tooted? LOL
MrR0ng said:
I thought this phone had tegra inside. Why can't I download any tegra games (pinball) or use the Tegra Zone?
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Tegra 2 is arguably the worst dual core chip when compared to the snapdragon and Samsung dual cores, but yes, it has the best exclusive games.
I wouldn't be upset with having a Sensation. It's far better than the Optimus 2x and Atrix. More reliable too.
My Sensation is on its way. I'm surprised to hear that the Tegra games won't work w/ non Tegra phones. I don't remember reading that when I bought them. Had most of them on my G2X, but I didn't play them all that much though. I always seem to go back to Angry Birds.
Maybe I'll just sell those Apps.
jk.
Can't wait to get my new toy!!
ickster said:
My Sensation is on its way. I'm surprised to hear that the Tegra games won't work w/ non Tegra phones. I don't remember reading that when I bought them. Had most of them on my G2X, but I didn't play them all that much though. I always seem to go back to Angry Birds.
Maybe I'll just sell those Apps.
jk.
Can't wait to get my new toy!!
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Good to see you made the leap ickster - I couldn't get rid of that G2x fast enough myself - after four bad ones I was OVER IT.
Hey guy...Yeah, but I'm holding onto the G2X for awhile to see how it plays out. I still hold out hope for it. I picked up (held) a Sensy at the tmobile store today, felt pretty nice.....I think I'm gonna like it! Can't wait.....already purchased the hdmi adapter and spare batteries and a charger. I'm ready to go.
i knew going in that it would not work.. luckily i have a xoom to cure that need
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Tegra 2 is arguably the worst dual core chip when compared to the snapdragon and Samsung dual cores
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Please explain why ? I would like to know
yes ... why do you think that ??
There was a post somewhere on the myouch forums about a hacked version that would let you install the games... Never tried it but people said it worked. If someone finds it it would be gr8
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jivemaster said:
Tegra 2 is arguably the worst dual core chip when compared to the snapdragon and Samsung dual cores, but yes, it has the best exclusive games.
I wouldn't be upset with having a Sensation. It's far better than the Optimus 2x and Atrix. More reliable too.
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LOL... please elaborate, tell me you've at least done a little bit of research before forming an opinion like this?
maybe the sensation will be able to use The newly announced "Playstation Suite" that allows us to play touchscreen optimized playstation roms for like $20 or game or something crazy like that I'm sure
Some games like Dungeon Defenders will work because there is actually two versions of the game. The market checks which hardware you have and downloads the right one. I ran it on my MT4G and Tegra 2 tablet and it downloaded a HQ version on my Tegra 2 Tab but SQ on anything other. I know some games are strictly for T2 and will install on other phones (side loading of course) but will not run
hi guys
it's long time that haven't see any update for "tiger nds " and " nds4droid "
on first day that was very hopeful , but ...
is there anybody here that have news about them ?
or is there any other emulator for NDS ?
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hi guys
it's long time that haven't see any update for "tiger nds " and " nds4droid "
on first day that was very hopeful , but ...
is there anybody here that have news about them ?
or is there any other emulator for NDS ?
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I think you can kiss that dream goodbye. The play isn't strong enough to emulate a nintendo DS. plus, nintendo ds has dual screen. How did you intend to play that on your phone?
common sense please.
the play has much bigger chance of emulating Psp/GCube than NDS...that Dual Screen kills it e-zly
the play is strong enogh. The NDS is not more powerfull thzan the n64 and it is more easy to emulate becouse the ds has an ARM processor.
The NDS shouldn't be a big thing to emulate... But nintendo can get hostile towards much development on a console whose games are still in the market.
Bleem is the paramount case.
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the play is strong enogh. The NDS is not more powerfull thzan the n64 and it is more easy to emulate becouse the ds has an ARM processor.
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Yeah but still, how about the dual screens?
Im sure the play has enough screen space to accomodate 2 screens, also its touch screen which helps.
Havent looked into ds emulation for a long time, but the main problems were with a lack of gyroscope and microphone (all of which the play has). Am I missing something though? Why couldnt the play emulate both screens?
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Dual screens isn't that hard to overcome. Display them side by side. Done. That's how I run the ds emulator for pc.
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Logseman said:
The NDS shouldn't be a big thing to emulate... But nintendo can get hostile towards much development on a console whose games are still in the market.
Bleem is the paramount case.
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Bleem was a playstation emulator for the dreamcast and PC. Sony took bleem to court and bleem won
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letspoint said:
Im sure the play has enough screen space to accomodate 2 screens, also its touch screen which helps.
Havent looked into ds emulation for a long time, but the main problems were with a lack of gyroscope and microphone (all of which the play has). Am I missing something though? Why couldnt the play emulate both screens?
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The play has an accelerometer not a gyroscope
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The play has an accelerometer not a gyroscope
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Yes and the DS has nothing like that. The 3DS has.
AndroHero said:
Bleem was a playstation emulator for the dreamcast and PC. Sony took bleem to court and bleem won
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Thing is, the Playstation and its games were still selling well at the time.
Well of course you CAN do dual display on a single display, i'm not an idiot. But what I mean is that the screens will be pretty small, which i think would suck.. That's why i think the NDS emulator for the play is a pointless idea.
The only good solution i can come up with is if you could switch between the screens somehow. YOu have one screen at the time, in fullscreen mode. Then with the press of a button jump to the other screen.
I haven't played the Nintendo DS that much, so i don't know if you really need both screens at the same time at all time.
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just look at old psp !
the cpu was poor , but all of us have seen that how Sony made big games with best possible and fantastic resolution on that. " like god of war - resistance ..."
i think our xperia play is strong enough to support NDS .
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NDS cpu - WIKIPEDIA :
CPU: Two ARM processors
* 32 bit ARM946E-S main CPU; 67 MHz clock speed. Processes gameplay mechanisms and video rendering.
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when psx released , on first step was something like current ver. of "tiger NDS " or " NDS4droid "
very slow ...
i think we can hope to improve that emulators. there are so many beauty games on NDS that worth to try for . ps1 games are good , but is better to play it on widescreen , home theater , ...
but NDS games are specially for little screen , 4 inc
i'm , personally eager to see and buy a prefect emulator for NDS .
i've send mail to tigerNDS developer and request him to keep on nice try .
please guys ,
let's do it together
The kyocera echo would be the best for NDS emulation XD
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mehdi.moha said:
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i'm sorry if my english is not good
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just look at old psp !
the cpu was poor , but all of us have seen that how Sony made big games with best possible and fantastic resolution on that. " like god of war - resistance ..."
i think our xperia play is strong enough to support NDS .
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NDS cpu - WIKIPEDIA :
CPU: Two ARM processors
* 32 bit ARM946E-S main CPU; 67 MHz clock speed. Processes gameplay mechanisms and video rendering.
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when psx released , on first step was something like current ver. of "tiger NDS " or " NDS4droid "
very slow ...
i think we can hope to improve that emulators. there are so many beauty games on NDS that worth to try for . ps1 games are good , but is better to play it on widescreen , home theater , ...
but NDS games are specially for little screen , 4 inc
i'm , personally eager to see and buy a prefect emulator for NDS .
i've send mail to tigerNDS developer and request him to keep on nice try .
please guys ,
let's do it together
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what you have to keep in mind is that you need almost 12x the power of the **** you're trying to emulate. So if you are gonna emulate a n64, you need a computer with 12x much power.
and you mix up emulate and port. I think you can port really good quality games from lets say PSP to xperia play. But i don't think you can emulate it.
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what you have to keep in mind is that you need almost 12x the power of the **** you're trying to emulate. So if you are gonna emulate a n64, you need a computer with 12x much power.
and you mix up emulate and port. I think you can port really good quality games from lets say PSP to xperia play. But i don't think you can emulate it.
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The 12x the power thing is debatable but is besides the point.
We do not need to emulate everything. The play already has the an arm processor. no need to emulate one of those. that saves us a lot of the processing power to emulate other things.
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what you have to keep in mind is that you need almost 12x the power of the **** you're trying to emulate. So if you are gonna emulate a n64, you need a computer with 12x much power.
and you mix up emulate and port. I think you can port really good quality games from lets say PSP to xperia play. But i don't think you can emulate it.
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The N64 sports a 74mhz processor, faster than the NDS' 67mhz ARM. Since the Play emulates the n64 just fine there's no technical limitation in this respect.
Not to mention there's no consistent formula for judging the power needed for emulation.
There's no real reason you shouldn't be able to emulate the DS on our phones. Just not everyone will enjoy it. Me, I have a 3ds if I want to play the games, so I don't really care about the emulator either way
speedyink said:
The N64 sports a 74mhz processor, faster than the NDS' 67mhz ARM. Since the Play emulates the n64 just fine there's no technical limitation in this respect.
Not to mention there's no consistent formula for judging the power needed for emulation.
There's no real reason you shouldn't be able to emulate the DS on our phones. Just not everyone will enjoy it. Me, I have a 3ds if I want to play the games, so I don't really care about the emulator either way
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as i said before, i haven't played the NDS, so i don't know it's power. I thought it was better then Nintendo 64, but i guess i was wrong.
All that talk about 12x much power. That's just what i've learned from this forum reading the threads in the developers section.
The reason i'm not interested in a NDS emulator is the lack of a good solution for the dual screen.
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as i said before, i haven't played the NDS, so i don't know it's power. I thought it was better then Nintendo 64, but i guess i was wrong.
All that talk about 12x much power. That's just what i've learned from this forum reading the threads in the developers section.
The reason i'm not interested in a NDS emulator is the lack of a good solution for the dual screen.
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The whole 12x more powerful thing is a bit iffy, the PSP is not 12x more powerful in specs than the N64 but it emulates it perfectly...
cause on my galaxy s i can now play snapdragon and tegra apps
cause maybe then we might not need gameloft tegra apps any apps will work
yes buddy,chainfire works very well in a lot of games...try newest version with qualcomm and powervr plugins...and read THIS awesome 3ad created by philburkardt to know how versions\games\tricks to do to have fully working games!
Transformer TF101 already have a high end processor (NVIDIA Tegra Dual-Core) ..can anyone tell me why we need chainfire?isn't our (TF101) processor cant support HD games?i'm new to this device..thanks in advance.. ^^
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cause on my galaxy s i can now play snapdragon and tegra apps
cause maybe then we might not need gameloft tegra apps any apps will work
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Chainfire works fine on the Transformer. However, it hasn't helped with any Gameloft games, so far. I pretty much comb the web in search of working Gameloft versions, and have tried MANY combinations of apk, SD data, and Chainfire, for multiple games.
If you try, and manage to get anything working with Chainfire, please let me know. I would love some more playable games.
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Transformer TF101 already have a high end processor (NVIDIA Tegra Dual-Core) ..can anyone tell me why we need chainfire?isn't our (TF101) processor cant support HD games?i'm new to this device..thanks in advance.. ^^
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Because there are still versions of some app/games that only work with Qualcomm or PowerVR chips.
GAME ON said:
Transformer TF101 already have a high end processor (NVIDIA Tegra Dual-Core) ..can anyone tell me why we need chainfire?isn't our (TF101) processor cant support HD games?i'm new to this device..thanks in advance.. ^^
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yes,but many games optimized for others chipset can't run on tegra2 devices without chainfire trick
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Because there are still versions of some app/games that only work with Qualcomm or PowerVR chips.
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thanks phil..and another question if u don't mind..between Qualcoom or PowerVR Chips or NVDIA Tegra Dual-Core..which is the best processor for gaming and apps for tablet?sorry for this question..just wondering which is the best..
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thanks phil..and another question if u don't mind..between Qualcoom or PowerVR Chips or NVDIA Tegra Dual-Core..which is the best processor for gaming and apps for tablet?sorry for this question..just wondering which is the best..
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I personally am going to stick with Tegra. The Tegra specific games always look great and run smooth. Plus with Tegra 3 on the way, we're looking at console quality graphics in our pocket/bag.
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I personally am going to stick with Tegra. The Tegra specific games always look great and run smooth. Plus with Tegra 3 on the way, we're looking at console quality graphics in our pocket/bag.
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a complete answer for me..thanks again phil..
Rockstar Games just updated their facebook post with the release info of GTA III but unfortunately Xperia Play is not on the supported device list.
Check website post http://www.rockstargames.com/newswi...year-anniversary-edition-coming-to-mobil.html
The ONLY phone it will be fun to play on, imo. Wonder if they are having trouble with the power of our phone? If so, I wonder how much an OC'd Play would help. It seems that list is filled with very powerful single core devices, and dual core only.
All supported devices are Tegra 2 or 3, apparently.
This dual-core only **** is the most stupid crap i ever heared. This does not have better grafics that shadowgun wich runs completly lagfree on the xperia play. Also it runs on iphone 4 and the Xplay has better hardware that the iphone 4, and the ultra low power gpu in tegra 2 (yes it is called ultra low power^^) is not really better than our adreno205. But for now i dont care anyway becouse my hand is broken so i cant play (look at signature)
One more thing. Here are the orgininal recomended specs of gta3:
CPU: 800 MHz
RAM: 128 MB
GPU with 32 MB RAM
The Xperia Play passes that easily. But maybe this is not compareable to the Android Version.
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This dual-core only **** is the most stupid crap i ever heared. This does not have better grafics that shadowgun wich runs completly lagfree on the xperia play. Also it runs on iphone 4 and the Xplay has better hardware that the iphone 4, and the ultra low power gpu in tegra 2 (yes it is called ultra low power^^) is not really better than our adreno205. But for now i dont care anyway becouse my hand is broken so i cant play (look at signature)
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For starters the iphone 4 is also.a dual core device, the gpu in the tegra II is called ultra low power because it uses less power to run (batteries) than other GPU's not because it's less powerfull.
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For starters the iphone 4 is also.a dual core device, the gpu in the tegra II is called ultra low power because it uses less power to run (batteries) than other GPU's not because it's less powerfull.
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The Iphone 4 is definetly not dualcore. It has a Singelcore Samsung CPU with 1 Ghz and a PowerVR SGX535. And about tegra 2 yes i know that is the real mening of the name but it actually is less powerfull than other gpu's Or not more powerfull than gpu's of singelcore devices if you want it that way.
have they said anything about button mapping for bluetooth pads maybe we could use chainfire 3d if tegra. Just like could use play controls on riptide before play version.
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have they said anything about button mapping for bluetooth pads maybe we could use chainfire 3d if tegra. Just like could use play controls on riptide before play version.
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no info about pads yet. yes we could use chainfire 3d somehow but wish to play it with the gamepad of course.
iPad 2 for me then
Would prefer Chinatown Wars than III as it was far superior IMO. Confident XP will be on the next devices released although R* haven't expressed much support for the play yet. Have sent them tonnes of tweets asking for Chinatown Wars!
I can't believe they added the iPhone 4 to the list but not the Xperia Play, a phone that can easily keep up to the iPhone.
Seriously, what were they thinking???
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Would prefer Chinatown Wars than III as it was far superior IMO. Confident XP will be on the next devices released although R* haven't expressed much support for the play yet. Have sent them tonnes of tweets asking for Chinatown Wars!
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This must be a joke? CHINATOWN WARS is probably the worst GTA game of all time.
Please tell me you were joking.
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I can't believe they added the iPhone 4 to the list but not the Xperia Play, a phone that can easily keep up to the iPhone.
Seriously, what were they thinking???
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even for iPod touch. hate that tiny screen
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This must be a joke? CHINATOWN WARS is probably the worst GTA game of all time.
Please tell me you were joking.
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Are You joking? Chinatown Wars is awesome, i played it on the nintendo ds and i loved it. Since the iphone has GTA Chinatown wars i think it could be ported if rockstar would listen to us...
Been looking forward to this.
i wonder when and which version
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/10/15/grand-theft-auto-heading-to-xperia-play/
As a former owner of an iPod, iPhone and iPad, I fear the game will seriously blow on the small-screen iDevices.
Seriously, 3.5-inch screen + touch-screen controls and your fingers blocking one third of the screen? What a pleasurable experience... NOT.
I would like to try the iPad version though, the on-screen controls are not that much a problem there because of the big screen. Anyway, I suspect they WILL port the game to Xperia Play sooner or later, I mean why not when the device is MADE to play these kinds of games? Some graphical compromises will probably have to be made though.
This is such a pain! :/ Hoping someone will upload an apk somewhere, I reckon Rockstar have lost alot of money here. If the iPhone 4 can run it the PLAY can easily.
The PLAY has so much potential but it seems to be being mostly ignored by major developers >.> I reckon Sony will bring out a dual-core version soon.
Oh, and hello xda-developers.
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This is such a pain! :/ Hoping someone will upload an apk somewhere, I reckon Rockstar have lost alot of money here. If the iPhone 4 can run it the PLAY can easily.
The PLAY has so much potential but it seems to be being mostly ignored by major developers >.> I reckon Sony will bring out a dual-core version soon.
Oh, and hello xda-developers.
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There has been absolutely nothing to indicate they will.
EA has been putting out exclusive titles for the Play (and giving them away for free), There are other devs that have Play exclusives as well. Its not being ignored at all.
Its ONE game... bfd....
I believe Rockstar said somehwere that it is not the final list of the phones.