http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lcd-density-changer-application-v3-0-released/
This is just incredible. Try setting it to 200 and see how nice everything looks.
Here are my results. I had to switch from LauncherPro to ADW because it allows me to put way more icons on the screen.
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Can't seem to find the apk to test it before I donate
TheBiles said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lcd-density-changer-application-v3-0-released/
This is just incredible. Try setting it to 200 and see how nice everything looks.
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The first time I launched it, mine was already set to 240. I'm assuming higher is better right?
063_XOBX said:
Can't seem to find the apk to test it before I donate
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He removed it because people were putting up mirrors everywhere. You can get a refund within 48 hours if you don't like it. It's only 95 cents...
kmartburrito said:
The first time I launched it, mine was already set to 240. I'm assuming higher is better right?
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Lower makes things smaller. 240 is default. 200 is supposed to be the line between clarity and space, but I haven't tested it out.
200 really screwed up the looks of things for me especially the sense stuff like the lock screen and music widget
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200 really screwed up the looks of things for me especially the sense stuff like the lock screen and music widget
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My lock screen looks fine. I mean, there's a tiny little offset or something, but you don't even notice it. I haven't used any of the Sense stuff because ADW with 5 columns and 6 rows +200 density is amazing. Everything fits clearly.
Well more power to anyone who it works for, but I like sense too much for this to be useful for me
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Well more power to anyone who it works for, but I like sense too much for this to be useful for me
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I'm actually using Fresh ROM right now, which is a Sense ROM.
It threw off all the parts of sense a bit too much for my liking but if it works for you then kudos
works great for my EVO! Set at 200, did notice some text cut off via MENU on LauncherPro but i can deal with it. Using FRESH btw.
I could actually probably squeeze in another row, but I don't have enough apps for that.
i'll post pics tomorrow when i get to work.
Only bad thing: This app makes it painfully obvious which devs have their apps set to a fixed width. Why don't more just scale it to the screen? For example, Engadget is a fixed-size, but Touiteur is scaled. I may play around with some values between 200 and 240 to try and minimize this effect.
TheBiles said:
I'm actually using Fresh ROM right now, which is a Sense ROM.
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063_XOBX said:
It threw off all the parts of sense a bit too much for my liking but if it works for you then kudos
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Yeah, I'm using Fresh too. Having been developed with 240 in mind, Sense just doesn't look right with the icons being off. I imagine though, that if someone developed some different icon sets and could apply them to Sense, it would look pretty sweet. Not for me though.
In any case, thanks for bringing this up! It's always good to try new things in my opinion
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Only bad thing: This app makes it painfully obvious which devs have their apps set to a fixed width. Why don't more just scale it to the screen? For example, Engadget is a fixed-size, but Touiteur is scaled. I may play around with some values between 200 and 240 to try and minimize this effect.
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Yep, coding with absolute pixels is a no-no really, as you can't be flexible to different display sizes and densities. That's why you should shy away from explicitly designating pixel sizes, and instead use "dip" and relative layouts so your app will look the same on any device. That's what I do anyway
Why in the world would they develop for a reflowable layout when it's only ever going to go on ONE screen resolution?
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SharkUW said:
Why in the world would they develop for a reflowable layout when it's only ever going to go on ONE screen resolution?
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Read my mind.
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
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Why in the world would they develop for a reflowable layout when it's only ever going to go on ONE screen resolution?
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Read my mind.
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
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Not sure if you guys are talking about HTC with regards to Sense UI, or if you're talking about app developers and apps, like engadget and touiteur like TheBiles mentioned.
If you're developing for a specific model, like HTC did with SenseUI for the Evo, then you're right, you would only ever intend for it to go on one resolution. That's why it looks funny.
However, you can't look at it like that. Instead of coding it to one device or resolution, you can alter your code slightly without lengthening it, in order for it to adapt to the screen it uses. If that is one model, fine. If it's multiple different models, though, it can burn you if you don't code it that way. In any case, he was saying that some of those developers cut corners or simply didn't think about that when creating their app.
See google's page about the different screens Android has to deal with:
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
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Not sure if you guys are talking about HTC with regards to Sense UI, or if you're talking about app developers and apps, like engadget and touiteur like TheBiles mentioned.
If you're developing for a specific model, like HTC did with SenseUI for the Evo, then you're right, you would only ever intend for it to go on one resolution. That's why it looks funny.
However, you can't look at it like that. Instead of coding it to one device or resolution, you can alter your code slightly without lengthening it, in order for it to adapt to the screen it uses. If that is one model, fine. If it's multiple different models, though, it can burn you if you don't code it that way. In any case, he was saying that some of those developers cut corners or simply didn't think about that when creating their app.
See google's page about the different screens Android has to deal with:
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
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This man speaks the truth! I'd hate to try to use any of these fixed-size apps on anything other than an 800x480 screen. That just seems like such a huge development flaw when it is so easily corrected.
Edit: Sense nuts might want to try 220. I at least didn't notice a difference in the lock screen with that.
im noticing this app scales from the upper left corner leaving space on some apps to the right and bottom. If the Dev for this app can have it scale with a center position this thing would be money imo.
For instance Beautiful widget now is scaled to the left leaving some room on the homescreen to the right.
Related
just thought i'd throw one together... if you guys like it maybe i will make more.
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here's a some more, found these searching around.
here's a some more, found these searching around.
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just thought i'd throw one together... if you guys like it maybe i will make more.
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6306/herozt.png
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That's really cool, I like it! Keep in mind that thanks to rosie our screens are "actually" 640x480. Not 320x480.
Here's one that I made, simple and refined.
smittycg said:
here's a some more, found these searching around.
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the one were he pees on apple is awesome jajaja
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Here's one that I made, simple and refined.
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Absolutely perfect. I am such a minimalist when it comes to design, I love this. Expect to see it in the screenshots of the upcoming fresh release. Thanks!
did you make it or just resize it? there are tons of nice wood wallpapers out there.
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did you make it or just resize it? there are tons of nice wood wallpapers out there.
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I don't know why but I never even thought of wood. lol. You need to make yours bigger though! I really like it too.
Edit: I almost wonder if his emblem should be an A for android instead of H for hero? I know I'm slow but it took me a second to figure out what the H even stood for. haha. What do others think about A vs H?
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I don't know why but I never even thought of wood. lol. You need to make yours bigger though! I really like it too.
Edit: I almost wonder if his emblem should be an A for android instead of H for hero? I know I'm slow but it took me a second to figure out what the H even stood for. haha. What do others think about A vs H?
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hahah i could do an A... did you notice the cape? it's a hero android LOL.
what is the standard size for hero walls? i just used the screen res and made an image...
flipzmode said:
I don't know why but I never even thought of wood. lol. You need to make yours bigger though! I really like it too.
Edit: I almost wonder if his emblem should be an A for android instead of H for hero? I know I'm slow but it took me a second to figure out what the H even stood for. haha. What do others think about A vs H?
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I have a few wood grains, including a black one. I'll send them to ya.
I like the H, to make it specific to our phone, but I was thinking about replacing it with Fresh and see how it looks, lol
Nice wallpapers posted so far
skanndelus said:
hahah i could do an A... did you notice the cape? it's a hero android LOL.
what is the standard size for hero walls? i just used the screen res and made an image...
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sell below
flipzmode said:
That's really cool, I like it! Keep in mind that thanks to rosie our screens are "actually" 640x480. Not 320x480.
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and yea i saw the cape ha. i knew the H was supposed to be like the S for superman but i was like ok, it's an android... what does the H stand for? it was just me being slow! i agree with noj that i like how it's more custom for our phone. so ignore me.
N0J said:
I have a few wood grains, including a black one. I'll send them to ya.
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Can you throw the black wood grain this way also?
obededom said:
Can you throw the black wood grain this way also?
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like this?
obededom said:
Can you throw the black wood grain this way also?
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Sure, I can do that, I'm using it for mine right now actually, lol
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like this?
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yeah, mine is similar
yes, thank you.
This is a good thread
skanndelus said:
did you make it or just resize it? there are tons of nice wood wallpapers out there.
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I took a large 1920x1200 wallpaper from deviantart, resized for best boardwidth, cut-out the best portion for the screen, then adjusted the color levels and made it a lot sharper.
So, I cannot take full credit for making it, but I did add some value by tailoring it to our screen (~20 minutes)
Here is the matching lockscreen background if interested:
tstack77 said:
I took a large 1920x1200 wallpaper from deviantart, cut-out the best board size for the screen, then adjusted the color and made it a lot sharper.
So, I cannot take credit for making it, but I did add some value by tailoring it to our screen (~20 minutes)
Here is the matching lockscreen background if interested:
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I do the same for alot of stuff, unless something custom is needed.
i did the same for the black wood....
can someone explain why the backgrounds need to be so big?
i am confused!
What I'm looking for are suggestions from our community on what your would like to see added into roms for our phone. Please no outlandish requests like 3.0. I look forward to seeing what you guys want in a rom and or mods.
Things being worked on.
Power menu options
Multi lockscreens.
A new secret tool??? (Will be looking for testers)
Things to look into
Changing sleep animation.
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Anything other that 2.1 for our Cellular South Showcase phones.
That would be a ROM he's talking about mods like being able to reboot to recovery our download mode from they power off menu.
Swyped using USCC Mesmerize
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What I'm looking for are suggestions from our community on what your would like to see added into roms for our phone. Please no outlandish requests like 3.0. I look forward to seeing what you guys want in a rom and or mods.
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I want this:
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and this:
Ok, I have both on my phone right now. Those are actually screen shots from my phone.... I want them to work. lol
phidelt82 said:
I want this:
and this:
Ok, I have both on my phone right now. Those are actually screen shots from my phone.... I want them to work. lol
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At one time I asked about being able to silence notifications with the power button or the volume down button for example but I wasn't sure if that was part of the roms responsibility or not.
Maybe some built-in customization. Like different battery icons. Clock or no clock in the notification bar. Different lock screens, (looks like that one might happen). Different color schemes.
I need to donate to you guys when I get home. You guys do this stuff for free on your limited free time. I wouldn't mind getting into this and help out some. I love to program and figure things out. Is there some sort of reading I could read to find out how to do some of this stuff (I.e., roms, color schemes, etc ...)
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phidelt82 said:
I want this:
and this:
Ok, I have both on my phone right now. Those are actually screen shots from my phone.... I want them to work. lol
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just had to make me jealous...that the ultimate release stuff thats being worked on right now? if so is it for 2.2 as-well?
phidelt82 said:
I want this:
and this:
Ok, I have both on my phone right now. Those are actually screen shots from my phone.... I want them to work. lol
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Ok...I wouldn't mind those either...
I am actually pretty damn happy with how my phone is doing now. I like to lose the clock in the notification bar also. I know that's not possible yet tho and I'm not worried too much. I would like an undervolted kernal too to see if my battery life would be improved (even tho it's pretty good considering the size of this beautiful screen). My main suggestion tho would to be all of us that aren't doing any development/modding ourselves. And that's to thank those who do profusely and donate to them when we can for all their effort!
Things being worked on.
Power options.
5 lockscreen mod.
Ultimate rom (kinda)
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If your talking about some modded apks too, id like to see a different look for Google voice! The standard one is boring - just white and grey. Seeing a black one with cool text maybe or something would be cool. Also, an ACCURATE battery icon in the top left would be great. Amd i really like it when you hit tge sleep button and the screen goes out like an old tv. And, I don't know if it'd be possible, but music controlls in the notification bar (something that works w/ power amp?) Would be sweet. I'll try ur ROM with anything you put in it thanks!
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if possible stock/aosp google calendar. I've tried a bunch of different 2.2 versions and the option to modify calendar FC and some versions have artifacts on top of the app
any of the suggestions that others have made would be great too
thanks
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Thank you to all that have been posting. Progress is being made but it is slow for there are only a few of us working on these projects. More info and mods will be coming soon.
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Your welcome. Thanks to all the people who are helping. No rush. Take your time, make it perfect.
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Hi guys, soon these will work, I just wish i had a mesmerise. Hopefully the future will hold something good for u, what phidelt has shown is his hard work and soon will get the options working. Once we crack these two, u will be really close to getting ULTIMATE . Have a nice day. What we do is complete samsungs job for free .
A feature that I was requesting would be a fun add....screen off/sleep animations. Thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962969
I'll add that to my Todo list. Thanks for suggesting it.
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Pretty sure that wont be possible without gingerbread, it just isn't there in the code. Don't quote me on that but that's what I was told.
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webstar1 said:
Hi guys, soon these will work, I just wish i had a mesmerise. Hopefully the future will hold something good for u, what phidelt has shown is his hard work and soon will get the options working. Once we crack these two, u will be really close to getting ULTIMATE . Have a nice day. What we do is complete samsungs job for free .
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can not wait till this is done...will it work with the froyo leak? and will it work with the official froyo release?
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can not wait till this is done...will it work with the froyo leak? and will it work with the official froyo release?
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It is being made to work with the leak, and the leak is very similar if not identical to what wills be released so probably.
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Yes all the mods will be available separate and probably will be built onto pick n pack. Once 2.2 comes out and we have real source code it will be easier to make changes.
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One of my bigger WTF moments when I started using Sensation/Sense 3.0 was the home screen's NavBar. It looked like crap. To most people it's evident why: it's jaggy and non-transparent. It doesn't look nearly like how it was intended to look. Want proof? Go into the skin browser and look at the previews for skins like HTC and Blue Sky... even in the preview window, the NavBar looks quite different.
I looked around for a fix, but I didn't find anything that adequately addressed the issue, in my opinion. A lot of people have figured out ways to force the NavBar to be transparent. This kind of works, but it doesn't fix the jagged edges and poor quality of the original image.
So I went to work on my own. I first noticed that the lock screen has a PERFECT NavBar image. THAT'S how it should look on the home screen. After a bit of hacking and learning how Sense 3.0 themes work, I figured out how to get that perfect lock screen image showing up on the home screen.
The fruit of my efforts so far is located at:
http://binarybulge.com/android/skins/sense3/sensation
You can download and install the APK's directly, then load them using the built-in skin chooser. Keep in mind these are Sense 3.0 QHD only. If you don't have a QHD (960x540) Sense 3.0 device, like Sensation or Evo 3D, don't bother.
I've also included a /notes folder describing exactly how I fixed the issue. This is only for general curiosity. YOU DON'T NEED TO LOOK THERE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE THEMES. It could, however, help someone fix the skins for lower resolution devices (like 800x480).
Finally, I made the status bar jet black, because that's the way I want it. If you don't like it that way, feel free to insert your own status bar image. It's in the APKs' res/drawable-hdpi folders as statusbar_background.png.
Here's how it looked before (as seen in the stock Blue Sky skin):
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Here's how it looks in my fixed bluesky.apk:
Better, no? Now we don't have to wait for HTC to fix it.
Change Log
1.0 (7/31/2011):
- added BlueSky, Burgundy skins
Coming Soon
- fixed default/HTC skin (need to track down all images from various APK's in the framework to make an external skin file... blech)
- other skins from HTC hub?
Nice man! I use the green skin from HTC hub, if you could fix that up would be great
Edit: its called spaceship Earth
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nice! thx for sharing!
vincepg13 said:
Nice man! I use the green skin from HTC hub, if you could fix that up would be great
Edit: its called spaceship Earth
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Unfortunately until the m10tools guys can decipher the new image type (14) used in that Skin, I can't really get anywhere with it. :-/
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Unfortunately until the m10tools guys can decipher the new image type (14) used in that Skin, I can't really get anywhere with it. :-/
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Oooh ok pal no problem because thinking about it the navbar looks good as it is, because of the greeness the jaggedness is not that noticable
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You are a GOD amongst Men.
It Bugged me too!
Thank you so much
Looks much better,thanks!
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Can anyone put the original notification bar back?
Also, you should change the navbars from the stock skins and add in the straight navbars
nicky041192 said:
Can anyone put the original notification bar back?
Also, you should change the navbars from the stock skins and add in the straight navbars
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Thanks Nicky, maybe I'll add some variants, at least for the notification bar(s). I initially wanted to keep the scope of this thread/project narrow (just fixing what I saw as problems with the stock skins), but I think I can throw you a bone. ;-D
Can you give me an example of a straight navbar? I've seen some custom skins w/ them so I assume that's what you're talking about, but I wanted to make sure. Again, I'm not sure I want to stray too far from stock.
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Thanks Nicky, maybe I'll add some variants, at least for the notification bar(s). I initially wanted to keep the scope of this thread/project narrow (just fixing what I saw as problems with the stock skins), but I think I can throw you a bone. ;-D
Can you give me an example of a straight navbar? I've seen some custom skins w/ them so I assume that's what you're talking about, but I wanted to make sure. Again, I'm not sure I want to stray too far from stock.
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I want this navbar http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168270
Possible to make it show that straight navbar on the homescreen AND the lockscreen?
I love the Blue Sky theme. So when you press the buttons on the navbar make it turn blue? Just like the normal curved navbar.
Do this just for me? hehe
I'd like to do all of this myself but I'm not that knowledgeable in the theming side of Android. I prefer theming iOS
I see a lot of Sense 3.0 themes and I want a bit of each. Nothing "perfect" for my taste XD
nicky041192 said:
I want this navbar http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168270
Possible to make it show that straight navbar on the homescreen AND the lockscreen?
I'd like to do all of this myself but I'm not that knowledgeable in the theming side of Android. I prefer theming iOS
I see a lot of Sense 3.0 themes and I want a bit of each. Nothing "perfect" for my taste XD
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Gotcha. I know exactly what you mean. I like that straight navbar too, but the skin changes far too many other things (I don't dig the square widgets).
If I get a free moment and can do something for you I'll let you know. I think it's out of scope with regards to this project. ;-)
Edit: Come to think of it, I really like the "Espresso" navbar from MyTouch 4G Slide. Have you seen it? What are your thoughts? I'd really like to see that navbar ported to S4G.
binarybulge said:
Gotcha. I know exactly what you mean. I like that straight navbar too, but the skin changes far too many other things (I don't dig the square widgets).
If I get a free moment and can do something for you I'll let you know. I think it's out of scope with regards to this project. ;-)
Edit: Come to think of it, I really like the "Espresso" navbar from MyTouch 4G Slide. Have you seen it? What are your thoughts? I'd really like to see that navbar ported to S4G.
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I'm not a massive fan of the square widgets either XD.
I just want the navbar. I can live the the square widgets.
EDIT: and nope. I don't pay attention to the other forums apart from the devices I own :L
I also wonder why HTC haven't released any skins with straight navbars. I believe they did for Sense 2.1...
nicky041192 said:
I'm not a massive fan of the square widgets either XD.
I just want the navbar. I can live the the square widgets.
EDIT: and nope. I don't pay attention to the other forums apart from the devices I own :L
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See attached.
Are you still theming the original HTC Theme with the green marker? I'm looking for that
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See attached.
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Not my taste
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Shizophren said:
Are you still theming the original HTC Theme with the green marker? I'm looking for that
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Soon.
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Soon.
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Cool
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See attached.
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Much more functional than stock one, would love to try it ;-)
THANKS! excellent work really, this should've been the first thing I saw when I first had the phone, would've made a way more better first impression I still can't understand why HTC shipped it the way it was.
Now...before anyone goes crazy and gets mad. I'm not trying to be a troll here by any means. I don't hate ice cream sandwich. I know it has a lot of improvements, which is always great
But...Ice cream sandwich... is just plain ugly looking to me when compared to Gingerbread. Does anyone else feel this way?
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Gingerbread
I don't just mean the wallpapers. Gingerbread just looks so much more "Android" ish. Ice cream sandwich looks... odd. By no means is it garbage. It just doesn't look like android to me.
And I've also heard they are removing the menu button. THAT alone, killed any chance of me ever buying another android phone/device. It's one of the main reasons I came to love android so much. I don't understand why they are removing the "technical" feel that it has in favor of a "apple-ish" feel. If you get me.
I don't mean to sound like I hate Google/Android...But...honestly. I kinda am, now...Maybe it will change as we go along. But honeycomb was a disaster to me. I hope it improves.
Maybe I am over stepping my grounds...but I am just very disappointed in it all. Just as much as I am disappointed in Windows 8 metro... *shivers* Ugh.
How about you guys?
Menu is still there its just being moved to the upper right hand corner in most apps. Older apps not written for ICS have the legacy menu button appear. I do kind of wish they would just leave the button in one place. Besides for that you can always install a separate launcher. I don't really like the trebuchet launcher with CM9 so I installed ADW EX which gives a more GB feel.
I've been running ics for about a month, but I haven't used the galaxy nexus with the on-screen buttons though but I really prefer the layout over gb. I think the Widgets in the application drawer is amazing, I love the persistent search bar and the scrollable Widgets. I like gingerbread just fine but I like ice cream sandwich a lot more.
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Menu is still there its just being moved to the upper right hand corner in most apps. Older apps not written for ICS have the legacy menu button appear. I do kind of wish they would just leave the button in one place. Besides for that you can always install a separate launcher. I don't really like the trebuchet launcher with CM9 so I installed ADW EX which gives a more GB feel.
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
Locklear308 said:
Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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I haven't gotten my hands on a device that will run CM9 (talk to me again next week, E4gT otw) but the beauty of CM was always full customization. It probably wouldn't be too hard to install a new launcher and theme etc.
Overall I love the look of ICS tho. Seems more modern. I'll def have a better feel for it when I get my new phone. I've loved every major release of Android tho, and I started on 1.6 on a G1. (Please bring back multicolor LED notify light!!! ha)
all the new things have a time to adapt in a few time you will accept as well
Locklear308 said:
Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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Don't worry once ICS becomes stable on more devices you will see plenty of themes. It will take a bit as there have been a lot of changes but you will be able to make it look anyway you want. Like I have already started porting my Gotham theme to ICS.
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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They are not removing the menu button. just moving it. on Modaco you can get the menu button to be visible at all times.
Maybe time to root if you get a ICS device?
Sounds like you haven't rooted before. Because the UI is the easiest to change on Android. You can even make ICS look just like GB
However i think it's look great than Touchwiz.
I actually agree. I like the new features that come with ICS, but the UI is ugly to me.
I do agree that Gingerbread looks more.. Android-themed whereas ICS looks.. slicker. Not a dealbreaker, of course. I do feel google seems to have caught the Apple bug of one-customization fitting all; I would love to see Gingerbread themes available by default, for example.
Not that I can really complain, considering that I added the menu button back (though looking completely different) with a custom ROM. But there's another option I wonder why they didn't just provide by default..
YoungSinema said:
but the UI is ugly to me.
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I think that might actually be a background issue. (The UI itself may not be "android", but I don't think it could really be called ugly.) It deemphasizes the icons. A deeper background actually helps to emphasize them.
(That messaging app is disconcerting, though.)
I could not disagree more on this. gingerbread to me was an eye soar. the puke green status icons never worked for me. I like the ICS annimations better. Over all the UI for ICS is just much more polished and refined IMO. I have a honeycomb tablet with an ICS port and it shipped originally with Gigerbread. The ICS port is not ready for everyday use but if just looks and feel is all I am going off for me ICS > Honeycomb > Gingerbread
Gotta concurr with mcord11758. ICS to me looks more professional than GB
juliooooo said:
Gotta concurr with mcord11758. ICS to me looks more professional than GB
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+1. Totally agree.
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To the OP: Yes, yes you are.
thebobp said:
I do agree that Gingerbread looks more.. Android-themed whereas ICS looks.. slicker. Not a dealbreaker, of course. I do feel google seems to have caught the Apple bug of one-customization fitting all; I would love to see Gingerbread themes available by default, for example.
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How are they becoming more like Apple? You can still have custom home screens with widgets, etc. You can still install different launchers. They are just updating the default UI. If they didn't update the UI then they would be like Apple, I don't think iOS has seen a major UI overhaul since 2007.
Mha ... the end has not changed greatly in terms of graphics, they just made sharper contrasts. What I love ics is its multitasking, notifications and its all part of "technique" that is behind. The menu button, I've yet: D
i think pre ICS android looked rather gruesome, buttons, menues, popups, checkboxes, radiobuttons, all the basic elements shamefully awful even. it was evident that they didn't spend much time thinking about looks and usability. i'd say it's is a pretty good leap now, you feel right away they have put alot of thought in it. i like it so much i'd never install a ROM that changes it drastically and i'm happy to see CM9 und AOKP go along, widen the capabilities without distracting from the clear AOSP concept.
but keep in mind it was designed for nexus, high definition screens, maybe amoled, and software keys. seems like an OS that was envisioned for the hardware it runs on, not just random linux with buttons and checkboxes thrown onto whatever device is available.
I like ICS more, it's better then gingerbread or MIUI. All menu, etc..
spunker88 said:
How are they becoming more like Apple? You can still have custom home screens with widgets, etc. You can still install different launchers. They are just updating the default UI. If they didn't update the UI then they would be like Apple, I don't think iOS has seen a major UI overhaul since 2007.
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I'm obviously exaggerating a bit, but the keywords here are custom and different. Yes, we can search far and wide to do these things ourselves, but I'd like the options to be already there by default. That, I feel, is more with the Android spirit. It's also helpful for non-technical users who aren't as daring as we are.
well im sure some of you have now seen the Nexus 10.
I'm kinda jealous, but at the same time I reckon the Infinity looks so much nicer. So, I might pass and wait for next year's model.
Anyway, this is not about the Nexus 10 (there is already another thread for that).
This is about Android 4.2's layout; Google has seem to have removed the tablet UI and I'm not sure I like it. It would seem weird to have the navigation buttons in the center, especially if your using it in landscape! I don't see any advantages to why Google are taking this route. You will have essentially a big black bar on the bottom, just for 3 buttons, seems pretty silly to have on 'widescreen' tablet. So now the notification bar at the top now; more screen estate wasting.
I understand what they are try to do with the whole 'unified experience' stuff. But I don't see any other positive to this.
Don't get me wrong tho, I still want the update; and I might like it if I see it in person. Hopefully Asus announces version 11 soon
What do you guys think of the new layout? Love it? Hate it?
I don't really like it. I prefer the current layout much more than the phone UI look. Oh well...
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I think I would prefer the nav buttons in the centre. I often hold the tab in my left hand and navigate with my right hand - it seems counter productive to keep reaching to the left hand corner with my right hand...
That layout will most likely only be on the nexus 10 and not 4.2 for the infinity. Its the same layout as the Nexus 7 jelly bean. Its the phablet layout.
i mean it doesn't look that bad. Having the notifications slide down is nicer then the current pop-up. and also having the toggle switch on the right hand side is nice
take a look at this video... it goes through it a bit:
http://youtu.be/vCN7Y3e6MIU
also, I think it's a 4.2 thing. I believe Google wants to move away from the whole tablet UI. Seems like want to unify all 3 of their devices.
ps. the nexus 10 is one ugly looking mofo.
Is nobody going to say it? Please tell me I'm not the only one capable of seeing this..
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A ridiculous waste of screen space that you really can't afford on a 10" device. There was absolutely no need to separate button and notification bars. I certainly hope ASUS doesn't bring this UI "upgrade" over to the Infinity.
ZankerH said:
A ridiculous waste of screen space that you really can't afford on a 10" device. There was absolutely no need to separate button and notification bars. I certainly hope ASUS doesn't bring this UI "upgrade" over to the Infinity.
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Yeah, the Nexus 7 is the same way. Even on a 7 inch device (perhaps even *more* so on a 7 inch device), it just doesn't seem to make much sense to have separate button and notification bars. I much prefer the "all on one bar" approach....
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I like the 4.1 layout, I think it is really well thought out. I like the big time in notification area, so I do not use any time widget, and I like the large status icons too. Entirely the bottom bar is well organized.
I'm not sure about the 4.2 but it looks they made the bottom bar smaller to win space for top bar. The 4.2 layout is probably the big step backwards many people will hate on their tablets.
Are we getting 4.2?
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ShadowLea said:
Is nobody going to say it? Please tell me I'm not the only one capable of seeing this..
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I understand what you are eluding to. But I don't confuse Android widgets with Windows live tiles. Don't really think they are similar to me.
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Google says they want to have a consistent UI between phones and tablets. And I think it's a terrible idea. They are different form factors, used differently and should have different UIs.
I really wish we could stop acting like the average human is too stupid to find the navigation buttons on a tablet just because they are moved to the left instead of the center.
If we figured out how to make fire and create tools, then for the love of God, I have faith we'll figure out how to find the navigation buttons and menu if it's in a different place.
Ravynmagi said:
IGoogle says they want to have a consistent UI between phones and tablets. And I think it's a terrible idea. They are different form factors, used differently and should have different UIs.
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Agree. Does Google now try to match Microsoft's equally bad idea trying to unify mobile and desktop UIs?
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I understand what you are eluding to. But I don't confuse Android widgets with Windows live tiles. Don't really think they are similar to me.
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I did say "See". I'm a designer, my comment was purely visually-based. I haven't had my hands on 4.2 to see if it works the same as w8, have you?
Looks like they're trying to unify 'form', function notwithstanding. That would be unfortunate.
I actually saw someone theme their Tab so that all controls were on the sides of the screen with the middle empty or with widgets. Screen links on one side, apps on the other. They never had to reach for anything. Seemed like a smart layout.
Hopefully the people at Cyanogenmod will be able to give you a choice between the layouts when CM 10 goes 4.2, also don't think this is the smartest move by Google.
I'm just going to do what I did to my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7, which is disable the navbar and use LMT Launcher. I really don't mind the status bar on top though.
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They should just provide the option between the 4.1 and 4.2 style UI's.
Then again, that would remove 50% of the reason PA rom is developed.
PA always felt too... Slow for my liking.
CROMI for the win!
stevles said:
They should just provide the option between the 4.1 and 4.2 style UI's.
Then again, that would remove 50% of the reason PA rom is developed.
PA always felt too... Slow for my liking.
CROMI for the win!
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Judging from what I have seen of the 4.2 version of the tf300 (which shouldn't be too different from our Infinities), you'll have the option to switch.
I like it visually, but doubt its practicality. I guess this is another 'wait and see' moment, where we all must decide for ourselves what we feel most comfortable with.
I hope that Asus (or sdbags himself ) will someday implement (semi-)transparent status bars and notification bars.
I'd make our infinities look much better, that's for sure.
adelancker said:
Judging from what I have seen of the 4.2 version of the tf300 (which shouldn't be too different from our Infinities), you'll have the option to switch.
I like it visually, but doubt its practicality. I guess this is another 'wait and see' moment, where we all must decide for ourselves what we feel most comfortable with.
I hope that Asus (or sdbags himself ) will someday implement (semi-)transparent status bars and notification bars.
I'd make our infinities look much better, that's for sure.
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I can confirm that Asus will allow us to switch between 4.1.1 UI and 4.2.1 UI modes but it requires a reboot...
As for transparent system notification bars, yes it can be done But I'm waiting for Asus to release 4.2.1 for the TF700 first although I may attempt a sneaky port of the TF300 Rom as we now have a working TWRP that solves the encrypted bootloader issues
I like the new layout with notifications you can display on the left side of the screen and the quick tile on the right side. I think it would be nice to have an option to customize the virtual key position.