well im sure some of you have now seen the Nexus 10.
I'm kinda jealous, but at the same time I reckon the Infinity looks so much nicer. So, I might pass and wait for next year's model.
Anyway, this is not about the Nexus 10 (there is already another thread for that).
This is about Android 4.2's layout; Google has seem to have removed the tablet UI and I'm not sure I like it. It would seem weird to have the navigation buttons in the center, especially if your using it in landscape! I don't see any advantages to why Google are taking this route. You will have essentially a big black bar on the bottom, just for 3 buttons, seems pretty silly to have on 'widescreen' tablet. So now the notification bar at the top now; more screen estate wasting.
I understand what they are try to do with the whole 'unified experience' stuff. But I don't see any other positive to this.
Don't get me wrong tho, I still want the update; and I might like it if I see it in person. Hopefully Asus announces version 11 soon
What do you guys think of the new layout? Love it? Hate it?
I don't really like it. I prefer the current layout much more than the phone UI look. Oh well...
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I think I would prefer the nav buttons in the centre. I often hold the tab in my left hand and navigate with my right hand - it seems counter productive to keep reaching to the left hand corner with my right hand...
That layout will most likely only be on the nexus 10 and not 4.2 for the infinity. Its the same layout as the Nexus 7 jelly bean. Its the phablet layout.
i mean it doesn't look that bad. Having the notifications slide down is nicer then the current pop-up. and also having the toggle switch on the right hand side is nice
take a look at this video... it goes through it a bit:
http://youtu.be/vCN7Y3e6MIU
also, I think it's a 4.2 thing. I believe Google wants to move away from the whole tablet UI. Seems like want to unify all 3 of their devices.
ps. the nexus 10 is one ugly looking mofo.
Is nobody going to say it? Please tell me I'm not the only one capable of seeing this..
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A ridiculous waste of screen space that you really can't afford on a 10" device. There was absolutely no need to separate button and notification bars. I certainly hope ASUS doesn't bring this UI "upgrade" over to the Infinity.
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A ridiculous waste of screen space that you really can't afford on a 10" device. There was absolutely no need to separate button and notification bars. I certainly hope ASUS doesn't bring this UI "upgrade" over to the Infinity.
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Yeah, the Nexus 7 is the same way. Even on a 7 inch device (perhaps even *more* so on a 7 inch device), it just doesn't seem to make much sense to have separate button and notification bars. I much prefer the "all on one bar" approach....
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I like the 4.1 layout, I think it is really well thought out. I like the big time in notification area, so I do not use any time widget, and I like the large status icons too. Entirely the bottom bar is well organized.
I'm not sure about the 4.2 but it looks they made the bottom bar smaller to win space for top bar. The 4.2 layout is probably the big step backwards many people will hate on their tablets.
Are we getting 4.2?
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Is nobody going to say it? Please tell me I'm not the only one capable of seeing this..
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I understand what you are eluding to. But I don't confuse Android widgets with Windows live tiles. Don't really think they are similar to me.
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Google says they want to have a consistent UI between phones and tablets. And I think it's a terrible idea. They are different form factors, used differently and should have different UIs.
I really wish we could stop acting like the average human is too stupid to find the navigation buttons on a tablet just because they are moved to the left instead of the center.
If we figured out how to make fire and create tools, then for the love of God, I have faith we'll figure out how to find the navigation buttons and menu if it's in a different place.
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IGoogle says they want to have a consistent UI between phones and tablets. And I think it's a terrible idea. They are different form factors, used differently and should have different UIs.
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Agree. Does Google now try to match Microsoft's equally bad idea trying to unify mobile and desktop UIs?
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I understand what you are eluding to. But I don't confuse Android widgets with Windows live tiles. Don't really think they are similar to me.
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I did say "See". I'm a designer, my comment was purely visually-based. I haven't had my hands on 4.2 to see if it works the same as w8, have you?
Looks like they're trying to unify 'form', function notwithstanding. That would be unfortunate.
I actually saw someone theme their Tab so that all controls were on the sides of the screen with the middle empty or with widgets. Screen links on one side, apps on the other. They never had to reach for anything. Seemed like a smart layout.
Hopefully the people at Cyanogenmod will be able to give you a choice between the layouts when CM 10 goes 4.2, also don't think this is the smartest move by Google.
I'm just going to do what I did to my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7, which is disable the navbar and use LMT Launcher. I really don't mind the status bar on top though.
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They should just provide the option between the 4.1 and 4.2 style UI's.
Then again, that would remove 50% of the reason PA rom is developed.
PA always felt too... Slow for my liking.
CROMI for the win!
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They should just provide the option between the 4.1 and 4.2 style UI's.
Then again, that would remove 50% of the reason PA rom is developed.
PA always felt too... Slow for my liking.
CROMI for the win!
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Judging from what I have seen of the 4.2 version of the tf300 (which shouldn't be too different from our Infinities), you'll have the option to switch.
I like it visually, but doubt its practicality. I guess this is another 'wait and see' moment, where we all must decide for ourselves what we feel most comfortable with.
I hope that Asus (or sdbags himself ) will someday implement (semi-)transparent status bars and notification bars.
I'd make our infinities look much better, that's for sure.
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Judging from what I have seen of the 4.2 version of the tf300 (which shouldn't be too different from our Infinities), you'll have the option to switch.
I like it visually, but doubt its practicality. I guess this is another 'wait and see' moment, where we all must decide for ourselves what we feel most comfortable with.
I hope that Asus (or sdbags himself ) will someday implement (semi-)transparent status bars and notification bars.
I'd make our infinities look much better, that's for sure.
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I can confirm that Asus will allow us to switch between 4.1.1 UI and 4.2.1 UI modes but it requires a reboot...
As for transparent system notification bars, yes it can be done But I'm waiting for Asus to release 4.2.1 for the TF700 first although I may attempt a sneaky port of the TF300 Rom as we now have a working TWRP that solves the encrypted bootloader issues
I like the new layout with notifications you can display on the left side of the screen and the quick tile on the right side. I think it would be nice to have an option to customize the virtual key position.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lcd-density-changer-application-v3-0-released/
This is just incredible. Try setting it to 200 and see how nice everything looks.
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This is just incredible. Try setting it to 200 and see how nice everything looks.
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The first time I launched it, mine was already set to 240. I'm assuming higher is better right?
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Can't seem to find the apk to test it before I donate
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He removed it because people were putting up mirrors everywhere. You can get a refund within 48 hours if you don't like it. It's only 95 cents...
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The first time I launched it, mine was already set to 240. I'm assuming higher is better right?
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Lower makes things smaller. 240 is default. 200 is supposed to be the line between clarity and space, but I haven't tested it out.
200 really screwed up the looks of things for me especially the sense stuff like the lock screen and music widget
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200 really screwed up the looks of things for me especially the sense stuff like the lock screen and music widget
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My lock screen looks fine. I mean, there's a tiny little offset or something, but you don't even notice it. I haven't used any of the Sense stuff because ADW with 5 columns and 6 rows +200 density is amazing. Everything fits clearly.
Well more power to anyone who it works for, but I like sense too much for this to be useful for me
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Well more power to anyone who it works for, but I like sense too much for this to be useful for me
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I'm actually using Fresh ROM right now, which is a Sense ROM.
It threw off all the parts of sense a bit too much for my liking but if it works for you then kudos
works great for my EVO! Set at 200, did notice some text cut off via MENU on LauncherPro but i can deal with it. Using FRESH btw.
I could actually probably squeeze in another row, but I don't have enough apps for that.
i'll post pics tomorrow when i get to work.
Only bad thing: This app makes it painfully obvious which devs have their apps set to a fixed width. Why don't more just scale it to the screen? For example, Engadget is a fixed-size, but Touiteur is scaled. I may play around with some values between 200 and 240 to try and minimize this effect.
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I'm actually using Fresh ROM right now, which is a Sense ROM.
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It threw off all the parts of sense a bit too much for my liking but if it works for you then kudos
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Yeah, I'm using Fresh too. Having been developed with 240 in mind, Sense just doesn't look right with the icons being off. I imagine though, that if someone developed some different icon sets and could apply them to Sense, it would look pretty sweet. Not for me though.
In any case, thanks for bringing this up! It's always good to try new things in my opinion
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Only bad thing: This app makes it painfully obvious which devs have their apps set to a fixed width. Why don't more just scale it to the screen? For example, Engadget is a fixed-size, but Touiteur is scaled. I may play around with some values between 200 and 240 to try and minimize this effect.
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Yep, coding with absolute pixels is a no-no really, as you can't be flexible to different display sizes and densities. That's why you should shy away from explicitly designating pixel sizes, and instead use "dip" and relative layouts so your app will look the same on any device. That's what I do anyway
Why in the world would they develop for a reflowable layout when it's only ever going to go on ONE screen resolution?
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Why in the world would they develop for a reflowable layout when it's only ever going to go on ONE screen resolution?
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Read my mind.
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
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Why in the world would they develop for a reflowable layout when it's only ever going to go on ONE screen resolution?
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Read my mind.
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
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Not sure if you guys are talking about HTC with regards to Sense UI, or if you're talking about app developers and apps, like engadget and touiteur like TheBiles mentioned.
If you're developing for a specific model, like HTC did with SenseUI for the Evo, then you're right, you would only ever intend for it to go on one resolution. That's why it looks funny.
However, you can't look at it like that. Instead of coding it to one device or resolution, you can alter your code slightly without lengthening it, in order for it to adapt to the screen it uses. If that is one model, fine. If it's multiple different models, though, it can burn you if you don't code it that way. In any case, he was saying that some of those developers cut corners or simply didn't think about that when creating their app.
See google's page about the different screens Android has to deal with:
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
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Not sure if you guys are talking about HTC with regards to Sense UI, or if you're talking about app developers and apps, like engadget and touiteur like TheBiles mentioned.
If you're developing for a specific model, like HTC did with SenseUI for the Evo, then you're right, you would only ever intend for it to go on one resolution. That's why it looks funny.
However, you can't look at it like that. Instead of coding it to one device or resolution, you can alter your code slightly without lengthening it, in order for it to adapt to the screen it uses. If that is one model, fine. If it's multiple different models, though, it can burn you if you don't code it that way. In any case, he was saying that some of those developers cut corners or simply didn't think about that when creating their app.
See google's page about the different screens Android has to deal with:
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
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This man speaks the truth! I'd hate to try to use any of these fixed-size apps on anything other than an 800x480 screen. That just seems like such a huge development flaw when it is so easily corrected.
Edit: Sense nuts might want to try 220. I at least didn't notice a difference in the lock screen with that.
im noticing this app scales from the upper left corner leaving space on some apps to the right and bottom. If the Dev for this app can have it scale with a center position this thing would be money imo.
For instance Beautiful widget now is scaled to the left leaving some room on the homescreen to the right.
I'm in love with my NS! I can't stop watching reviews about it on YouTube lol. I'm very happy with this device.
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I'm in love with my NS! I can't stop watching reviews about it on YouTube lol. I'm very happy with this device.
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I love my Nexi very much, almost as much as i love kittens........almost...cuz i love kittens a whole bunch
Yes I love it. However I am thinking about exchanging it for another one due to a defective back key that is not as responsive as the other keys.
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Sorry to hear that. I don't have anything to complain about the phone ,seems to be flawless.
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I am enjoying my Nexus S for the peace of mind it brings: knowing I'm running stock Android and that I'm going to get future updates first.
Having said that, I do wish the experience wasn't marred by issues and glitches (specifically with the random ringtones, and the occasional, yet nevertheless frustrating, screen scrolling and icon issues). I'm looking forward to the next bug fix update. Fixing these issues I predict will go a long way in making me really happy.
I'd like to add: One aspect of the phone, and of Android in general, that I feel sorely about is the keyboard. No matter how one twists it - for example, one might say it's improved over previous Android keyboards, which is true - it pales in comparison to the accuracy and response of Apple's keyboard. This is not to start some immature Apple vs. Google flame war; anyone who has typed extensively on both platforms will understand the difference. It's also a shame Google seems insistent on copying even Apple's mistakes, for example, the lack of customization and custom auto-correct features. I can't wait until Blindtype is implemented. It's sorely needed.
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I am enjoying my Nexus S for the peace of mind it brings: knowing I'm running stock Android and that I'm going to get future updates first.
Having said that, I do wish the experience wasn't marred by issues and glitches (specifically with the random ringtones, and the occasional, yet nevertheless frustrating, screen scrolling and icon issues). I'm looking forward to the next bug fix update. Fixing these issues I predict will go a long way in making me really happy.
I'd like to add: One aspect of the phone, and of Android in general, that I feel sorely about is the keyboard. No matter how one twists it - for example, one might say it's improved over previous Android keyboards, which is true - it pales in comparison to the accuracy and response of Apple's keyboard. This is not to start some immature Apple vs. Google flame war; anyone who has typed extensively on both platforms will understand the difference. It's also a shame Google seems insistent on copying even Apple's mistakes, for example, the lack of customization and custom auto-correct features. I can't wait until Blindtype is implemented. It's sorely needed.
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I don't understand your keyboard issue? Will you elaborate? I have used an iPhone extensively and still can't figure out how to make it do Swype...
Regarding your glitches, I recommend an exchange - I have none of those issues...
I use NS rotate with MT4 on main line (has 4g web attached), but I may upgrade 3rd line to preferred 4G web in order to use along with MT4.
NS and MT4 are great phones, and probably they're the best phones for T-Mobile so far.
IMHO I think its common for new phones to have some sort of fault, its not perfect but of sure is a great device.
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I'd agree. I was an iphone user for nearly 4 years and it is one of the most difficult parts of switching to Android. The iphone keyboard did seem to be much more accurate (Or maybe after years of typing on it, i was just REALLY used to it). I did originally download the swiftkey keyboard, which seemed easier to get used to originally but i had a problem with SMS that could not be solved any other way but a factory restore. And since then i've given the stock keyboard a bit more of a chance and after a couple of weeks i have to say it's not nearly as bad as i originally thought.
Love it just like did the nexus one
Great phone
Believers b3ar fruit with their Nexus S.....
@onthecouchagain The gingerbread keyboard is way better than iOS and a million times better than Froyo's. I can type at crazy speeds, make a bunch of mistakes, and the prediction gets it right almost every single time.
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@onthecouchagain The gingerbread keyboard is way better than iOS and a million times better than Froyo's. I can type at crazy speeds, make a bunch of mistakes, and the prediction gets it right almost every single time.
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sadly, it still auto corrects **** to duck and ***** to birch.
but nothing a little add to the dictionary cant do
slowz3r said:
sadly, it still auto corrects **** to duck and ***** to birch.
but nothing a little add to the dictionary cant do
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you have to manually change the settings in the keyboard to enable vulgar language. Try that if you haven't already
edit: sorry that's for voice input, I thought it was for the kb.
If u love the ios keyboard so much dl smart keyboard from the market. It even has an ios layout and skin. U can also adjust the multitouch sensitivity.
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ryan562 said:
If u love the ios keyboard so much dl smart keyboard from the market. It even has an ios layout and skin. U can also adjust the multitouch sensitivity.
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Or even the iPhone Keyboard Emulator, it's not perfect, but it's the closest you will get to the iPhone keyboard on an Android phone.
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YES!! Literally, for the last 2.5 weeks I have been completely glued to my phone. This was, by far, the greatest purchase I've ever made. I absolutely love this phone!!
I think blindtype has already been used in the keyboard, no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUiHffMVLUg
Go to 9:50 and see. I think that's pretty damn quick typing...
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I'm in love with my NS! I can't stop watching reviews about it on YouTube lol. I'm very happy with this device.
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Ironically, i'm still spending more quality time with my I9000M than with the Nexus S
the SNS works out of the box, almost perfectly, there is no major flaw, nothing to FIX
in the other hand the SGS it is full of PROBLEMS, and in a weird twist of thing, it's fun to FIX it
it'll be horrible though if that was your only phone, and you need it for business.
as a DEV toy, it's fund
I can finally go all out, trying all kind of crazy things on the SGS to fix it, and make it work better, now that I've got a reliable SNS to use for my daily business
I love my phone too! I can't wait for the development to get to a point where the N1 is. I love modding my phone, I just wish I knew how to do some development myself.
The only thing that made me regret the purchase was the HD2 getting NAND two days after I bought it.
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I suppose everyone's experience is different, but I find when typing on an iPhone (or even an iPod), the keyboard response and speed is superior to Android's - I find myself typing far more confidently. (Anybody else constantly type "km" when trying to type "I'm" with stock Android keyboard?)
I'm using Smart Keyboard Pro already, and it is indeed a step up from stock Android keyboard. However, it seems to not be optimized for Gingerbread. I've reached out to the developer but haven't heard from him yet. It seems to especially miss space bar taps, so I'll often get words likethis; it also seems to miss really fast presses, especially when letters are close to each other. A common example is "you". I'll try the iPhone emulator keyboard that someone suggested and see how that goes. Thank you.
Edit: It looks like the iPhone keyboard, but it doesn't type like the iPhone keyboard. I'm not sure if this is software related or hardware related, but something about the Nexus S screen is almost too sensitive - you can hover your finger over the screen and it'll register presses; this might be making the typing experience worse than it should be. I don't know. I'll stick to Smart Keyboard Pro, which is as responsive as it gets typing on Android. Plus, it has no-brainer features which I don't understand why Google/Apple don't implement into their stock keyboards (like custom auto-correct - this feature goes miles in improving typing; or long pressing for second key symbols).
Now...before anyone goes crazy and gets mad. I'm not trying to be a troll here by any means. I don't hate ice cream sandwich. I know it has a lot of improvements, which is always great
But...Ice cream sandwich... is just plain ugly looking to me when compared to Gingerbread. Does anyone else feel this way?
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I don't just mean the wallpapers. Gingerbread just looks so much more "Android" ish. Ice cream sandwich looks... odd. By no means is it garbage. It just doesn't look like android to me.
And I've also heard they are removing the menu button. THAT alone, killed any chance of me ever buying another android phone/device. It's one of the main reasons I came to love android so much. I don't understand why they are removing the "technical" feel that it has in favor of a "apple-ish" feel. If you get me.
I don't mean to sound like I hate Google/Android...But...honestly. I kinda am, now...Maybe it will change as we go along. But honeycomb was a disaster to me. I hope it improves.
Maybe I am over stepping my grounds...but I am just very disappointed in it all. Just as much as I am disappointed in Windows 8 metro... *shivers* Ugh.
How about you guys?
Menu is still there its just being moved to the upper right hand corner in most apps. Older apps not written for ICS have the legacy menu button appear. I do kind of wish they would just leave the button in one place. Besides for that you can always install a separate launcher. I don't really like the trebuchet launcher with CM9 so I installed ADW EX which gives a more GB feel.
I've been running ics for about a month, but I haven't used the galaxy nexus with the on-screen buttons though but I really prefer the layout over gb. I think the Widgets in the application drawer is amazing, I love the persistent search bar and the scrollable Widgets. I like gingerbread just fine but I like ice cream sandwich a lot more.
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Menu is still there its just being moved to the upper right hand corner in most apps. Older apps not written for ICS have the legacy menu button appear. I do kind of wish they would just leave the button in one place. Besides for that you can always install a separate launcher. I don't really like the trebuchet launcher with CM9 so I installed ADW EX which gives a more GB feel.
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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I haven't gotten my hands on a device that will run CM9 (talk to me again next week, E4gT otw) but the beauty of CM was always full customization. It probably wouldn't be too hard to install a new launcher and theme etc.
Overall I love the look of ICS tho. Seems more modern. I'll def have a better feel for it when I get my new phone. I've loved every major release of Android tho, and I started on 1.6 on a G1. (Please bring back multicolor LED notify light!!! ha)
all the new things have a time to adapt in a few time you will accept as well
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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Don't worry once ICS becomes stable on more devices you will see plenty of themes. It will take a bit as there have been a lot of changes but you will be able to make it look anyway you want. Like I have already started porting my Gotham theme to ICS.
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Now... as always please pardon my android noob-ergy. So... Even with Cm9 I could somehow make it look like Gingerbread? That would solve most of my issues. But still...removing the menu button... Why google...
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They are not removing the menu button. just moving it. on Modaco you can get the menu button to be visible at all times.
Maybe time to root if you get a ICS device?
Sounds like you haven't rooted before. Because the UI is the easiest to change on Android. You can even make ICS look just like GB
However i think it's look great than Touchwiz.
I actually agree. I like the new features that come with ICS, but the UI is ugly to me.
I do agree that Gingerbread looks more.. Android-themed whereas ICS looks.. slicker. Not a dealbreaker, of course. I do feel google seems to have caught the Apple bug of one-customization fitting all; I would love to see Gingerbread themes available by default, for example.
Not that I can really complain, considering that I added the menu button back (though looking completely different) with a custom ROM. But there's another option I wonder why they didn't just provide by default..
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I think that might actually be a background issue. (The UI itself may not be "android", but I don't think it could really be called ugly.) It deemphasizes the icons. A deeper background actually helps to emphasize them.
(That messaging app is disconcerting, though.)
I could not disagree more on this. gingerbread to me was an eye soar. the puke green status icons never worked for me. I like the ICS annimations better. Over all the UI for ICS is just much more polished and refined IMO. I have a honeycomb tablet with an ICS port and it shipped originally with Gigerbread. The ICS port is not ready for everyday use but if just looks and feel is all I am going off for me ICS > Honeycomb > Gingerbread
Gotta concurr with mcord11758. ICS to me looks more professional than GB
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Gotta concurr with mcord11758. ICS to me looks more professional than GB
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I do agree that Gingerbread looks more.. Android-themed whereas ICS looks.. slicker. Not a dealbreaker, of course. I do feel google seems to have caught the Apple bug of one-customization fitting all; I would love to see Gingerbread themes available by default, for example.
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How are they becoming more like Apple? You can still have custom home screens with widgets, etc. You can still install different launchers. They are just updating the default UI. If they didn't update the UI then they would be like Apple, I don't think iOS has seen a major UI overhaul since 2007.
Mha ... the end has not changed greatly in terms of graphics, they just made sharper contrasts. What I love ics is its multitasking, notifications and its all part of "technique" that is behind. The menu button, I've yet: D
i think pre ICS android looked rather gruesome, buttons, menues, popups, checkboxes, radiobuttons, all the basic elements shamefully awful even. it was evident that they didn't spend much time thinking about looks and usability. i'd say it's is a pretty good leap now, you feel right away they have put alot of thought in it. i like it so much i'd never install a ROM that changes it drastically and i'm happy to see CM9 und AOKP go along, widen the capabilities without distracting from the clear AOSP concept.
but keep in mind it was designed for nexus, high definition screens, maybe amoled, and software keys. seems like an OS that was envisioned for the hardware it runs on, not just random linux with buttons and checkboxes thrown onto whatever device is available.
I like ICS more, it's better then gingerbread or MIUI. All menu, etc..
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How are they becoming more like Apple? You can still have custom home screens with widgets, etc. You can still install different launchers. They are just updating the default UI. If they didn't update the UI then they would be like Apple, I don't think iOS has seen a major UI overhaul since 2007.
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I'm obviously exaggerating a bit, but the keywords here are custom and different. Yes, we can search far and wide to do these things ourselves, but I'd like the options to be already there by default. That, I feel, is more with the Android spirit. It's also helpful for non-technical users who aren't as daring as we are.
I had the Prime and exchanged it with Tf700 from Best Buy. Got infinity today from best buy after opening the box found the scratches on the screen and also one minor crack on the screen. This is not the reason i don't like the infinity because i can exchange with another one from best buy bcos they 30 days return policy. But the reason i don't like the infinity is the web browsing is not that fast considering it has quad core 1.6 ghz processor.The wifi i have is very fast works great with other devices. Right now i am typing with the infinity and it is so hard to type it. Typing is not smooth either. It is taking long time to write on this also the cursor to correct typos is not very accurate. The screen is as promised crisp, gaming is also high quality. Camera is good too. But i dont like the browsing and writing lag. Plus once the browser shut down automatically. I have update it to the latest firmware. Looks like the processor is not capable of handling high resolution or maybe something else.
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Install Chrome. It is way better than the stock browser. And I highly recommend getting Swift Key 3 for tablets. Best keyboard hands down.
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Sorry you feel that way! It really is an awesome tablet just give it some time!
Or try dolphin hd browser. Even faster than chrome.
There has been so much negative reaction. You would think the reviews would have been more negative but they were mostly positive. I am hoping that JB update comes sooner rather than later and that it corrects the awful I/O issues, as it was reported. I wonder why of all Android tabs out there with ICS and inferior hardware, this one is so affected. I guess people expected more, which is understandable given it is a $500 to $600 tablet.
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There has been so much negative reaction. You would think the reviews would have been more negative but they were mostly positive. I am hoping that JB update comes sooner rather than later and that it corrects the awful I/O issues, as it was reported. I wonder why of all Android tabs out there with ICS and inferior hardware, this one is so affected. I guess people expected more, which is understandable given it is a $500 to $600 tablet.
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I hope asus bring some kind of update to fix whatever the error is. But frankly speaking I don't like custom Roms I just want stock Roms and wants asus to fix the issue. I have the original galaxy tab and rooted and zipped custom rom but never like the tablet afterwards. Thanks for the reply.
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Sorry you feel that way! It really is an awesome tablet just give it some time!
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I think I will. Could be possible since the screen is damaged other internal parts got defective too in assembly or shipping.
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Install Chrome. It is way better than the stock browser. And I highly recommend getting Swift Key 3 for tablets. Best keyboard hands down.
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I will try chrome and dolphin just was concerned about privacy issue with dolphin. Are password and Ids are safe with dolphin? Btw thanks for the reply guys
What you are disappointed about are app specific things, not infinity, so not really correct title of the thread.
Also, allow a pad to settle down for few days. Mine is faster and faster. This is normal thing with android.
One weird thing though.
I absolutely love Chrome (desktop) but on my pad somehow stock browser works much faster.
How come?
I was even considering using stock one and delete chrome as the only thing i miss with stock browser is "other devices" tabs.
For example, one thing that i like with stock and can't find in chrome is fit to screen. This forum is always over the edge of screen on chrome, and have to double-tap it to resize, every time. With stock browser, its just perfect.
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I think I will. Could be possible since the screen is damaged other internal parts got defective too in assembly or shipping.
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I think you do well to give it some more time. I love the hard keyboard, but it takes a little while to get accustomed to its feedback. My wife won't type a thing on it because she is used to blind-typing and that doesn't work too well, apparently. I guess the spacing is off and so she has to look at the keyboard while typing. (I do that more or less continuously, but my typing speed isn't even so far off from hers -- at least on a normal desktop keyboard, to give her a fair chance. )
Asus is supposedly working on a new firmware fix to address the I/O issues according to a recent post from Gary (asus rep) from the Prime forum. Hopefully that will resolve the issues.
Please don't forget to send all your issues to Asus support. If they are aware that a lot of users are disappointed, they might speed tacking the issue.
Don't expect a lot of useful feedback though ... I just had some generic mails back saying to reset the Tab / check for updates ...
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Please don't forget to send all your issues to Asus support. If they are aware that a lot of users are disappointed, they might speed tacking the issue.
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Done.
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I think you do well to give it some more time. I love the hard keyboard, but it takes a little while to get accustomed to its feedback. My wife won't type a thing on it because she is used to blind-typing and that doesn't work too well, apparently. I guess the spacing is off and so she has to look at the keyboard while typing. (I do that more or less continuously, but my typing speed isn't even so far off from hers -- at least on a normal desktop keyboard, to give her a fair chance. )
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I do type on other devices which has touch screen but did not find much hassle. I have android tablets. But as other poster said give some time to tablet and i find this correct because as now i am typing with infinity it is easier than before. But every now and then the space comes between alphabets. I used swype while typing so far it is 100% accurate.
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Asus is supposedly working on a new firmware fix to address the I/O issues according to a recent post from Gary (asus rep) from the Prime forum. Hopefully that will resolve the issues.
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Hopefully yes. If the developers here can do it asus should do it easily.
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Or try dolphin hd browser. Even faster than chrome.
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Hi tried both chrome and dolphin both works great. Only negative i see in chrome is lack of flash support. But now the browsing is superb.
tabing said:
I will try chrome and dolphin just was concerned about privacy issue with dolphin. Are password and Ids are safe with dolphin? Btw thanks for the reply guys
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Don't forget the "Swiftkey Keyboard for Tablets" as well. Soooo much better. I also love the pumpkin orange theme.
Svashtar said:
What you are disappointed about are app specific things, not infinity, so not really correct title of the thread.
Also, allow a pad to settle down for few days. Mine is faster and faster. This is normal thing with android.
One weird thing though.
I absolutely love Chrome (desktop) but on my pad somehow stock browser works much faster.
How come?
I was even considering using stock one and delete chrome as the only thing i miss with stock browser is "other devices" tabs.
For example, one thing that i like with stock and can't find in chrome is fit to screen. This forum is always over the edge of screen on chrome, and have to double-tap it to resize, every time. With stock browser, its just perfect.
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Yes thats true tablet needs some time to settle. As i found it is getting better. Great forum otherwise i have decided to return it for refund.
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Install Chrome. It is way better than the stock browser. And I highly recommend getting Swift Key 3 for tablets. Best keyboard hands down.
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and sio(!)
and the latest firmware, for what it's worth
perhaps data wipe first if it's as bad as you described
In their quest to make TouchWiz seem "friendly", we've seen a lot of legitimately useful features get axed for no logical reason. I speak for for the US Snapdragon variants, I don't know if all the same applies to the Exynos.
- They took away gloves mode. My gloves no longer work on the Galaxy S6 or later models because of this, I have to resort to buying poorly insulated, expensive touch gloves again.
- They took away lock screen animations and the option to even have lock screen effects and animations enabled.
- They took away the ability to hide your apps in the app drawer. For privacy reasons I liked this feature, I could often lend people my phone without worrying about them snooping around.
- They limited the normal power saving mode mechanism. I liked having the option lower the processor frequency and keep the brightness uncapped by deselecting dimming. Now you have to do both.
Is there any other important or relevant feature to someone that they cut out? And does it peeve you that they have done this?
Gloves were never an issue for me. The phone suits me just fine and the issues you highlight i never used nor cared about. Can't you use guest mode for the phone when sharing?
Moreover, I use a third-party launcher like Nova which has more customized features and is far better than the TouchWiz Launcher and you can hide apps in the app drawer.
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Gloves were never an issue for me. The phone suits me just fine and the issues you highlight i never used nor cared about. Can't you use guest mode for the phone when sharing?
Moreover, I use a third-party launcher like Nova which has more customized features and is far better than the TouchWiz Launcher and you can hide apps in the app drawer.
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I don't like the anesthetics that Nova tries to emulate from Google's stock Android. I prefer that of TouchWiz. Just because you don't care about using gloves, doesn't mean others don't who live in cold places or places where the Fall, Winter and early Spring are particularly cold, such as Chicago. I'm simply talking about the software out of the box from Samsung.
Well, you gave your opinion and I gave mine. Sounds like you need to buy another phone. That's all I can suggest.
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Well, you gave your opinion and I gave mine. Sounds like you need to buy another phone. That's all I can suggest.
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This is silly logic, I like the phone, more than anything on the market. However, this is a forum for open debate and discussion. There's nothing wrong with a conversation with what Samsung may not be doing right. Maybe you should get off the forums if you can't understand that opinions come also come in the form of criticism as well and not strictly reverence.
The more they remove from TouchWiz the happier I'll be. Now it's actually usable without being put off. First Samsung phone that got me interested thanks to the toning down of TouchWiz.
If you are willing to work for it you can easliy make Nova look pretty much exactly like Samsung ****ty launcher. Better than complaing about stuff anyway. Research before buying. Good stuff.
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The more they remove from TouchWiz the happier I'll be. Now it's actually usable without being put off. First Samsung phone that got me interested thanks to the toning down of TouchWiz.
If you are willing to work for it you can easliy make Nova look pretty much exactly like Samsung ****ty launcher. Better than complaing about stuff anyway. Research before buying. Good stuff.
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I agree: am quite pleased by the slimmed down iteration of TouchWiz (my last Galaxy was the S4). Seems to have enough features to make it "special" and fun, if one is put off by stock Android (which I happen to prefer and love).
I did my research before buying this phone and knew what to expect. Nova truly is a better launcher with more power than TouchWiz and like you say, can pretty much mimic TW with added speed and fluidity.
Honestly, and I know this will throw many "fanboys" (I count myself as one, btw) into throes of an aneurysm, I can live w/o root on this phone as I find this phone to be speedy, has enough customizations and the camera is top notch. Never thought I would say this.
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I don't like the anesthetics that Nova tries to emulate from Google's stock Android. I prefer that of TouchWiz. Just because you don't care about using gloves, doesn't mean others don't who live in cold places or places where the Fall, Winter and early Spring are particularly cold, such as Chicago. I'm simply talking about the software out of the box from Samsung.
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Try the elta icon pack with Nova launcher. With a bit tweaking it still has the TouchWiz feel, but with some goodies.
For the glove problem, there is a kind of special glue available on amazon which adds touch ability to normal gloves.
But i agree, the reduced function of powersaving mode is a step backwards. It was a really useful feature.
Op what were you trying to accomplish with this thread if you snap at people who are actually giving you alternative options. We all get the glove thing but seriously those options are gone and it's not like Samsung is going to read your thread and say" oh crap we left those out! Let's re-add them".
Seriously tho, unless you use 3rd party apps and launchers your not going to get those features on this phone anytime soon.
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Thanks for info
They remove the lockscreen effect ( animation ) because of the latest update marshemellow ..
For gloves mode, I'm wondering if it's a different touch controller that allowed it in previous phones. For all we know it's not even possible on whatever controller they are using in the S7.
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In their quest to make TouchWiz seem "friendly", we've seen a lot of legitimately useful features get axed for no logical reason. I speak for for the US Snapdragon variants, I don't know if all the same applies to the Exynos.
- They took away gloves mode. My gloves no longer work on the Galaxy S6 or later models because of this, I have to resort to buying poorly insulated, expensive touch gloves again.
- They took away lock screen animations and the option to even have lock screen effects and animations enabled.
- They took away the ability to hide your apps in the app drawer. For privacy reasons I liked this feature, I could often lend people my phone without worrying about them snooping around.
- They limited the normal power saving mode mechanism. I liked having the option lower the processor frequency and keep the brightness uncapped by deselecting dimming. Now you have to do both.
Is there any other important or relevant feature to someone that they cut out? And does it peeve you that they have done this?
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What?
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What?
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I agree... I would hardly call effects and animations 'useful features'.
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Samsung just can't win with TouchWiz. People moan and complain it's slow and has too much bloat. Then they remove some of that, making things faster and leaner, and people complain it's gone. TouchWiz will never be as barren or simple as stock launcher because they add OEM distinctive features. However, I'm glad to see them removing some things that seemed overkill to me. They may be looking at stats like how many people actually hid an app in their drawer. My guess is, not many. So, instead of leaving that in there, they pulled it. It's a balancing act for them and making changes will never make everyone happy. Personally, I'm not bothered.
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Samsung just can't win with TouchWiz. People moan and complain it's slow and has too much bloat. Then they remove some of that, making things faster and leaner, and people complain it's gone. TouchWiz will never be as barren or simple as stock launcher because they add OEM distinctive features. However, I'm glad to see them removing some things that seemed overkill to me.
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I like this approach--make some of these features optional apks.
Samsung has an optional 'advanced' UI for the Galaxy S7, and it's kind of a mess. | Android Central
Described as "the advanced Samsung System UI," Good Lock completely overhauls the Galaxy S7's lock screen, while also making sweeping changes to the status bar, notification shade and recent apps menu. It does all this by packaging itself as an update to Samsung's System UI, a core part of Android.
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I like this approach--make some of these features optional apks.
Samsung has an optional 'advanced' UI for the Galaxy S7, and it's kind of a mess. | Android Central
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I tried the Good Lock for a day. Letting you pick the color theme you wanted was a nice customization without being over the top. The lock screen is great. The pull down menu felt like pure Android rather than TouchWiz. Being able to switch wireless networks without going through multiple extra presses is great for me so I liked that implementation. The turd, was the active apps list. Was not a fan of how they created a list with some really weird animations to display currently running apps. That was really the only reason I uninstalled it and went back to the standard UI. Interesting experiment though.
And, not sure if I was hallucinating, but I swear the fingerprint unlock was faster with the Good Lock UI.
I have been watching a lot of reviews of Galaxy s7 edge on youtube and I found there Direct call option in Advanced features but when I went to the mobile store I tried to find out direct call option on s7 edge inside Advanced features but it was not there. There is no direct call option. what is the matter and why its different. any idea?
One major annoyance for me is the fact you have to delete alarms in the stock clock app instead of disabling them. This means you have to set them back up from scratch each time you want to set an alarm.
tania247260 said:
I have been watching a lot of reviews of Galaxy s7 edge on youtube and I found there Direct call option in Advanced features but when I went to the mobile store I tried to find out direct call option on s7 edge inside Advanced features but it was not there. There is no direct call option. what is the matter and why its different. any idea?
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