MyTouch Trackball questions and ideas
Alright, I hope i don't sound like an a$$hole, but I, for one, am SICK and TIRED of my MyTouch not making use of the THREE (R,B,G to make white, correct?) LED's under it's trackball. Now i have a few questions,
1. Why hasn't it CM included trackball lighting/changing colors in his ROM? If it was done for the N1, how hard would it be to do it on the MyTouch?
2. HOW was it done for the Nexus? I noticed that "Trackball Alert Pro" just changed the LED color (top of phone, in the ear speaker slot), therefore, shouldn't it be as simple as to "tell" the app to use the MyTouch's trackball instead of the Nexus' trackball?
Now, the lights on some Motorola's (the Razr series, the Z3, V360), (the BT LED's, charging LED's, flashlights, etc.) were controlled by FLP files (basically .txt files) that you could edit manually or an FLP editor, so HOW is the Nexus' trackball light controlled? Is it a script, file, is it the kernel? Couldn't the same concept be applied to the MyTouch?
Also, i remember on the T-Mobile forums, a user called "BreakTheCycle2" (here's on XDA too, i think), developed a "script" to change the trackball light colors, and i sent him a PM, but he never replied.
Now, PLEASE don't be hatin' (lol), but I'm a n00b and these are just IDEAS that are running through my head.
A white led is a white led, I strongly doubt there is any way to get primary colors out of it.
N1 trackball's led is a multicolor led, it's just different.
Do you really think someone would put three leds to mimic the action of one?
I've seen a picture of a MyTouch motherboard, there are three LEDs under the trackball.
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jdyates said:
Alright, I hope i don't sound like an a$$hole, but I, for one, am SICK and TIRED of my MyTouch not making use of the THREE (R,B,G to make white, correct?) LED's under it's trackball. Now i have a few questions,
1. Why hasn't it CM included trackball lighting/changing colors in his ROM? If it was done for the N1, how hard would it be to do it on the MyTouch?
2. HOW was it done for the Nexus? I noticed that "Trackball Alert Pro" just changed the LED color (top of phone, in the ear speaker slot), therefore, shouldn't it be as simple as to "tell" the app to use the MyTouch's trackball instead of the Nexus' trackball?
Now, the lights on some Motorola's (the Razr series, the Z3, V360), (the BT LED's, charging LED's, flashlights, etc.) were controlled by FLP files (basically .txt files) that you could edit manually or an FLP editor, so HOW is the Nexus' trackball light controlled? Is it a script, file, is it the kernel? Couldn't the same concept be applied to the MyTouch?
Also, i remember on the T-Mobile forums, a user called "BreakTheCycle2" (here's on XDA too, i think), developed a "script" to change the trackball light colors, and i sent him a PM, but he never replied.
Now, PLEASE don't be hatin' (lol), but I'm a n00b and these are just IDEAS that are running through my head.
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This is barely related to development. I am hoping that you are looking to develop a resolution to getting multiple colors. But if this is just a thread to complain about the lack thereof then I'll move it. Please explain what you are hoping to accomplish for posting this in a section dedication to the advancement of our devices other than complaining about the lack of because that could have been posted in General.
On another note since I haven't seen the three led's that you've mentioned I cannot speculate on whether this is or not a possibility. Ask yourself this... have you ever seen a color other than white on your trackball? So I'm inclined to say that it's not without modification of the hardware... yet I've been wrong before. But the MT3G has been out for a long time and it's popped in everyone's mind at least once. I'm sure that someone has looked into it and if the possibility was there we would be using it by now. Kind of like the getting bluetooth to work issue for Sapphire 32b Hero rom's. Until recently it was considered impossible. Yet it was discovered that you only need the 32A radio and kernel (compatible rom) to make it work. It took time, research, trial/error, patience and a few bricked phones to make such progress. This was for functionality. What you're wanting is only cosmetic. Not a real high priority.
here ya go ..............see post #12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709107&page=2
Ma5t3r89 said:
A white led is a white led, I strongly doubt there is any way to get primary colors out of it.
N1 trackball's led is a multicolor led, it's just different.
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Well mines is orange and I literally mean orange whether it's lit up or not.
manufacturer's defect I guess.
Yours is orange because the thin film they use to protect the board from dust in that area is orange and it probably wasnt placed properly and its covering one of your led's or touching the trackball. Which also means different color trackball led's are very possible. If we can code the led's to work seperately from each other then we can have multiple color led's if we use a different color film on each of them!!!!!! If we cant seperate them then pick a color film u want and place it over the led's and there ya go. I will try to replicate yours tonight and try the one color led as mentioned above
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HOW TO>change trackball colors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7857742#post7857742
Me and shawn1224 may have accidentaly uncoverd the age old mytouch mystery. I am posting this here because I am not a developer and we need a dev. to try and seperate the 3 led's under the trackball from each other for seperate use. Below is a cut from the thread posted above. I will post an in depth later tonight of how to change the color under the trackball as described below but we still need a dev for the coding if possible of the led's. Thanks
Yours is orange because the thin film they use to protect the board from dust in that area is orange and it probably wasnt placed properly and its covering one of your led's or touching the trackball. Which also means different color trackball led's are very possible. If we can code the led's to work seperately from each other then we can have multiple color led's if we use a different color film on each of them!!!!!! If we cant seperate them then pick a color film u want and place it over the led's and there ya go. I will try to replicate yours tonight and try the one color led as mentioned above
ok finished and it works great. Bought red transparent film, removed trackball, placed film under trackball, replaced trackball...........bam done
heres a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUfIx6L5ns
I went ahead and researched the led by the ear speaker. It is 1 l.e.d with 3 diodes inside of it. Each diode is a different color. The varying colors come from changing the amount of power sent to each diode. Pretty much just like mixing paint in a bucket. Giving a diode more power will increase the color emitted. Lower power to another diode to change the end color of 3 combined l.e.d.'s and still equal the same amount of light emitted by all 3.
Ex.
Red diode wattage=.3333333 of 1
Green diode wattage = .3333333 of 1
Blue diode wattage=.3333333 of 1
1 being the total light emitted/or power sent to whole l.e.d. lower one and raise another but always equal to the max amount of power the led can handle.
Or just buy a new trackball - I got myself a red one.
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This is barely related to development. I am hoping that you are looking to develop a resolution to getting multiple colors. But if this is just a thread to complain about the lack thereof then I'll move it. Please explain what you are hoping to accomplish for posting this in a section dedication to the advancement of our devices other than complaining about the lack of because that could have been posted in General.
On another note since I haven't seen the three led's that you've mentioned I cannot speculate on whether this is or not a possibility. Ask yourself this... have you ever seen a color other than white on your trackball? So I'm inclined to say that it's not without modification of the hardware... yet I've been wrong before. But the MT3G has been out for a long time and it's popped in everyone's mind at least once. I'm sure that someone has looked into it and if the possibility was there we would be using it by now. Kind of like the getting bluetooth to work issue for Sapphire 32b Hero rom's. Until recently it was considered impossible. Yet it was discovered that you only need the 32A radio and kernel (compatible rom) to make it work. It took time, research, trial/error, patience and a few bricked phones to make such progress. This was for functionality. What you're wanting is only cosmetic. Not a real high priority.
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What i should have mentioned in my first post, is that i would like this to be the end-all, be-all MT trackball thread, and what i meant by starting it, is if ANYONE has any ideas or apps to test, i would be happy to test them. And contrary to your post, it WOULD be very functional, because Cyanogen doesn't have trackball lighting for notification like the stock ROM does, and it would REALLY help in my eyes. Imagine yourself in MY position. I usually have my phone in my lap during school, and i hardly ever see my notification LED blink when i have a (maybe) important message waiting. I mean, the trackball LEDs are SO much brighter, it would catch my attention immediately, and I'm sure people other than me (maybe even yourself, sir) can agree.
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here ya go ..............see post #12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709107&page=2
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Thats where i saw the MT MoBo pic .
eyegor said:
Or just buy a new trackball - I got myself a red one.
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I (and hopefully other people other than me, apparently i could use some support) would like a free alternative to the trackball color, as well as i NEED insurance/warranty on my phone, because i simply don't have the money for a new phone if i break it while taking it apart.
Also, you guys seem very focused on color, that is just a MINOR thing to me, i want to be able to set different lighting patterns, how long it blinks, the interval for waiting notifications, i personally don;t care if its white, red, orange, purple or PINK for god's sake.
THE ONLY WAY KNOWN TO MANKIND (i think)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766016
Like i said, i want it to be software related, in other words, if i f*ck something up, i want to simply be able to wipe, and re-flash .
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The thing about CM not having the same trackball notification is due to it (the glowing/flashing/breathing) being HTC framework.
If HTC can set light patterns and make them trigger on certain events, so can we.
chrisgto4 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7857742#post7857742
Me and shawn1224 may have accidentaly uncoverd the age old mytouch mystery. I am posting this here because I am not a developer and we need a dev. to try and seperate the 3 led's under the trackball from each other for seperate use. Below is a cut from the thread posted above. I will post an in depth later tonight of how to change the color under the trackball as described below but we still need a dev for the coding if possible of the led's. Thanks
Yours is orange because the thin film they use to protect the board from dust in that area is orange and it probably wasnt placed properly and its covering one of your led's or touching the trackball. Which also means different color trackball led's are very possible. If we can code the led's to work seperately from each other then we can have multiple color led's if we use a different color film on each of them!!!!!! If we cant seperate them then pick a color film u want and place it over the led's and there ya go. I will try to replicate yours tonight and try the one color led as mentioned above
ok finished and it works great. Bought red transparent film, removed trackball, placed film under trackball, replaced trackball...........bam done
heres a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUfIx6L5ns
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I think that the whole point of his thread was to change the LED color from the settings... not by removing the trackball and replacing the colored film beneath it. I'm all about development for this... but we don't need two threads about it. Let's pick one and I'll combine the other one with it.
not a problem. I just posted in here so a dev could answer the question about splitting the 3 led's up. Im not sure if they are all on the same circuit or can be flashed seperately. I know we will never get anything but white out of them. I guess keep this one open cuz the other one isnt gonna get anything accomplished. thanks binary
eyegor said:
The thing about CM not having the same trackball notification is due to it (the glowing/flashing/breathing) being HTC framework.
If HTC can set light patterns and make them trigger on certain events, so can we.
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Exactly.
Sent from my MyTouch 1.2 using the XDA app
call me crazy but i thought atleast a cpl ppl would jump on this. Theres been a billion complaints and post's about the damn trackball led. This can be done in under 10 minutes by pretty much anyone. I would say u have a 50% more chance of bricking your phone doing other things, than u do by doing hardware damage doing this. Grow some balls ppl
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I'm merging two posts into one here and keeping it in DEVELOPMENT.
It's better than having to decide on which one to move to General.
Thanks a ton, Binary...so anybody have any ideas SOFTWARE-wise? Maybe taking "HeroLED" or "Trackball Alert Pro" apart and "pointing" it to the MyTouch trackball? How would we go about doing something like that, maybe talking to the dev of TAP?
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So if you watch this video on how to take apart your nexus http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html you will see in it the comment they make that the nexus has the same trackball as the blackberry.
If this is true then for you crafty people out there you can order new colors for your trackball if you are so inclined from. http://cnn.cn/shop/google-c-976.html
Might be kind of fun to spice up the look if your brave enough.
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02:35 If you're in a hurry.
I wouldn't install a colored one as it won't probably let the led colors pass thru
Lahdekorpi said:
02:35 If you're in a hurry.
I wouldn't install a colored one as it won't probably let the led colors pass thru
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Good point.
My nexus one comes in today, can't wait! I currently have a bold 9000 so i have experience swapping out track balls.
DO NOT order the colored track balls, the quality is absolute garbage! the only trackball that works like the factory blackberry is the G1 Black trackball and no the color does not pass through.
I would highly recommend anyone interested in the trackballs to go over to crackberry and check out the bold 9000 section. There are tons of posts talking about trackballs, quality of them etc.
I'm selling my bold and tranfering my black trackball from it to the nexus one, you know where the ball is so why do you no need it to illuminate.
vut
scottypimpin636 said:
My nexus one comes in today, can't wait! I currently have a bold 9000 so i have experience swapping out track balls.
DO NOT order the colored track balls, the quality is absolute garbage! the only trackball that works like the factory blackberry is the G1 Black trackball and no the color does not pass through.
I would highly recommend anyone interested in the trackballs to go over to crackberry and check out the bold 9000 section. There are tons of posts talking about trackballs, quality of them etc.
I'm selling my bold and tranfering my black trackball from it to the nexus one, you know where the ball is so why do you no need it to illuminate.
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Why in the earth you would swap the original trackball of a new Nexus One to a used one (that is also limiting functionality)?
What did I miss here?
it is a black original trackball? that's what you are missing i think hehehe
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Why in the earth you would swap the original trackball of a new Nexus One to a used one (that is also limiting functionality)?
What did I miss here?
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If you've ever used a blackberry with a trackball(which i'm guessing no) then you would know what the advantages of an atomic trackball are compared to their original white trackballs. I have contemplated doing the same thing since an atomic trackball is made of a different material then the white TB and dont attract dirt and grease as easily as the white stock Nexus one TB.
I work at a service center fixing phones and I've seen some horrid TB's come in that are dirt black and glossed over its disgusting. nothing compares to a clean white trackball or an atomic trackball that will most always run clean and accurate.(unless you were an early BB Tour adopter )
Hi,
first of all my search function isn t working! So sorry if this question has already been answered.
but are we able to get a flash light on the phone, maybe by just clipping it on, on the back and put a on/off button on the backcover?
Thanks in advance
Like this : thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/d518/?cpg=cj&ref=&CJURL=
But for iphone only.
the SGS doesn't need a flash for pictures at night time, just take the picture using the NIGHT mode of the camera
there are many samples in this forum, search for it
if you really want a good flash, get this instead
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26990
yes exactly
AllGamer said:
the SGS doesn't need a flash for pictures at night time, just take the picture using the NIGHT mode of the camera
there are many samples in this forum, search for it
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. Night mode is not a replacement for having flash.
snapper.fishes said:
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. Night mode is not a replacement for having flash.
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Flash has limited range. It cant take pictures of outdoor scenes at all. It wont make any difference. This is when sensor sensitivity trumps flash.
I would really have loved it if they included an LED flash, im pretty sure it wont increase the thickness, its quite useful as a torch
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. Night mode is not a replacement for having flash.
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Neither flash nor night mode are a replacement for having real light though. Flash does have it's uses, and so does Night mode. Flash does have some problems though at night and can lead to some of the worst pictures ever taken (someone took one in me in the night using a flash at night, and it seriously looked like I had crawled out of a petri dish earlier that morning. With Night mode though, getting sharp pictures can be painful (and it only works well in lessor light situations, unless you have a tripod).
That being said, I too would like to see cases released with a light integrated. Yes, I do have an LED torch already, but having something integrated with the phone would allow less messing around.
I want an LED on a sticker.
I mean, they make some pretty darn bright little party lights on pins & T-shirts, why not a whilte one that just lines up the button battery on one end, the switch to push in the middle, and the LED bulb on the other end, cover most or all of the parts in silicone with some adhesive on the flat side. Stick on some velcro and all that would have to be done is removal before it gets stuck to the phone to the vecro patch half of us have in our cars. Sell three for $25 and you'd be making $24 per sale, including shipping.
No, I can't find one. I've looked. I'm thinking about hacking up a light-up Led Zeppelin shirt, or more likely heading for Radio Shack and sticking the button battery contacts between the bulb contacts, taping it, and just sqeezing the thing when I want light.
Seriously, this absence of light is a bit ridiculous. It's so cheap, and they're charging us how much for molded plastic plus this? That and flashlights are all we get for choices?
I do love the light sensitivity of this camera, though. It might just work with a single bulb for those impossible times. It' sure doesn't need an explosion of light. It's the best I've ever had on a phone by a million times.
Edit: found this at DealExreme. Yet again for iPhone. I think I'll watch for this in micro USB.
Here's the sticky, except it points the wrong way.
Here's one I almost got excited about. Sold out.
Yep, shopping for i9000 accessories. This is how it is.
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I did some very weird reading in DIY flashlight forums. Learned some stuff. The $12 Proton Freedom keyring has a dimmer on it, and people swear by it. I have too much to keep track of; I have three copies of keys that I use, and two copies stashed for JIC. Too pricey.
So I settled for trying this, which has a nice flat back on the clip for sticking a magnet to, or adhering somewhere like your monitor; and this, but they only come is sets of 10 (most of which will be in stockings on Christmas eve/morning, about this time).
Janis said:
I want an LED on a sticker.
I mean, they make some pretty darn bright little party lights on pins & T-shirts, why not a whilte one that just lines up the button battery on one end, the switch to push in the middle, and the LED bulb on the other end, cover most or all of the parts in silicone with some adhesive on the flat side. Stick on some velcro and all that would have to be done is removal before it gets stuck to the phone to the vecro patch half of us have in our cars. Sell three for $25 and you'd be making $24 per sale, including shipping.
No, I can't find one. I've looked. I'm thinking about hacking up a light-up Led Zeppelin shirt, or more likely heading for Radio Shack and sticking the button battery contacts between the bulb contacts, taping it, and just sqeezing the thing when I want light.
Seriously, this absence of light is a bit ridiculous. It's so cheap, and they're charging us how much for molded plastic plus this? That and flashlights are all we get for choices?
I do love the light sensitivity of this camera, though. It might just work with a single bulb for those impossible times. It' sure doesn't need an explosion of light. It's the best I've ever had on a phone by a million times.
Edit: found this at DealExreme. Yet again for iPhone. I think I'll watch for this in micro USB.
Here's the sticky, except it points the wrong way.
Here's one I almost got excited about. Sold out.
Yep, shopping for i9000 accessories. This is how it is.
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I did some very weird reading in DIY flashlight forums. Learned some stuff. The $12 Proton Freedom keyring has a dimmer on it, and people swear by it. I have too much to keep track of; I have three copies of keys that I use, and two copies stashed for JIC. Too pricey.
So I settled for trying this, which has a nice flat back on the clip for sticking a magnet to, or adhering somewhere like your monitor; and this, but they only come is sets of 10 (most of which will be in stockings on Christmas eve/morning, about this time).
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Yo Janis,
Have you seen this?
http://www.globalsources.com/manufacturers/LED-Sticker.html
which one specifically?, you got too many listed.
most of those are for close range, it wont work for photos
Yeah night mode is really not that great, a lot of pictures are unusable depending on the circumstances.
the round one with 7 led lights
hiraj_panosian said:
the round one with 7 led lights
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that one is a sticker, it's not LED
LOL
and the one that is really a LED it uses 3 x AAA batteries, way to huge
i still prefer my solution better
You had me goin there for a minute! I think maybe that site did, too, when I was really shopping, but I looked at so much crap, staying up way too late, I don't remember. (unsturctured time without distraction for a mom is time well spent)
I think in order to provide decent brightness and useable battery life, they all have to be pretty bulky. I got key chain ones that don't stay on unless you sacrifice a fingernail that are reputed to be bright, unblemished and diffuse (the bulb rating actually doesn't tell the wole story, i guess), and if I really wanted to hot-glue it to my phone I suppose I could.
I really just want something for those relatively close up "Mom! Lookit this!" moments that I might otherwise miss. Most of my photos suck, anyway, so art photo (OK, non-silly photos) I leave up to the rest of the fam. I need practice finding shots with decent light, anyway, this'll definitely up my game a notch. IMHO, deciding what you want to do with the flash is probably more important than whether it comes integrated in a case or not.
I'm eager to see what comes of this iPhone no-flash standard. I hope it goes away as battery tech gets better, but in the mean time, it'll be interesting to watch.
And if you haven't checked out DealExtreme.... I had over $200 in my cart before I decided to weed. I haven't girl-shopped like that for ten years (divergent). I'm hooked!
just my thoughs for a flash on a phone...
Even with a canon 7D you will get terrible shots with a built-in flash. Its just not about the hardware but more about optics. To get a decent image you first need to move the flash away from the camera or at least point it into the ceiling or a white wall. Else it will look plain ugly no matter what. Every photographer knows this.
A xenon-flash on the phone will light up the close perimeter but will not create a good image. A led-light will be totaly useless, sure it might light up the object but colors, shadows and over all image quality will be terrible.
A fast sensor (high iso) will create noisy images. Even the 7d makes some noice, still this is a middle-end dedicated slr-camera. Dont expect a micro-small phone-sensor to produce anything good.
So... to make a decent photo with a phone: have good lightning conditions = outdoor, close to a window (preferably north side) or use a (or maybe even three) secondary light source (like a lamp).
An inbuilt flash/led on a camera can at best produce "working" images. Meaning you can actually see whats been photoed. For documentation. But for good photography forget about this.
I still miss a led on the sgs, but i would like it to be pointing strait up so i can use it as a flashlight. But the screen is rather bright anyway...
this was explained many many times, but some people still don't quite get it.
I'll suggest hobby photography lessons, then they will see the real difference.
a flash or LED on a phone, is mostly just used as a flash light
it has no real life effective value as a flash for a picture session.
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just my thoughs for a flash on a phone...
Even with a canon 7D you will get terrible shots with a built-in flash. Its just not about the hardware but more about optics. To get a decent image you first need to move the flash away from the camera or at least point it into the ceiling or a white wall. Else it will look plain ugly no matter what. Every photographer knows this.
A xenon-flash on the phone will light up the close perimeter but will not create a good image. A led-light will be totaly useless, sure it might light up the object but colors, shadows and over all image quality will be terrible.
A fast sensor (high iso) will create noisy images. Even the 7d makes some noice, still this is a middle-end dedicated slr-camera. Dont expect a micro-small phone-sensor to produce anything good.
So... to make a decent photo with a phone: have good lightning conditions = outdoor, close to a window (preferably north side) or use a (or maybe even three) secondary light source (like a lamp).
An inbuilt flash/led on a camera can at best produce "working" images. Meaning you can actually see whats been photoed. For documentation. But for good photography forget about this.
I still miss a led on the sgs, but i would like it to be pointing strait up so i can use it as a flashlight. But the screen is rather bright anyway...
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In the t-mobile vibrant section, someone pointed to an iphone case that had a built in led flash, lol.
I currently have SE W550i which has LED Flash. I have never paid attention to the flash while clicking photos with it but i EXTENSIVELY use it as a torch at various times and it is really helpful.
So Since now I plan to buy Galaxy S no flash is huge disappointment for me. Not because of pictures but I cant use the flash as a torch because there isnt any. I fail to understand why such an expensive phone doesnt have such a basic feature like this. Well thats another matter if you want to use such an expensive phone as a torch(!) but it still works damn good if it has one and sadly Galaxy S doesnt have any!
I wonder if these lights will work with 2 cr2032 batteries. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.m748&item=380261264719&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D6208795471328440285
I am now on Nexus #4, serious issues with first 3. So #4 looks totally different. The colors are washed out and the UI seems weird. Such as when hitting the bottom of s scrollable screen, the yellow highlights aren't smooth but sorta jagged at the top. The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green. The stock nexus wallpaper also seems a bit weird up in yhr right corner. I'm running 2.3.4 but I'm almost certain so were the others since they were all purchased with s week. Please leave me some feedback guys, I'm begging ya. I can't see myself walking into the store to exchangeyet again. Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys.
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I am now on Nexus #4, serious issues with first 3. So #4 looks totally different. The colors are washed out and the UI seems weird. Such as when hitting the bottom of s scrollable screen, the yellow highlights aren't smooth but sorta jagged at the top. The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green. The stock nexus wallpaper also seems a bit weird up in yhr right corner. I'm running 2.3.4 but I'm almost certain so were the others since they were all purchased with s week. Please leave me some feedback guys, I'm begging ya. I can't see myself walking into the store to exchangeyet again. Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys.
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Well Which carrier? start there...did you root it..have u added a rom??
ALSO my NEXUS HAS GIVEN ME SERIOUS PROBLEMS.. WHICH makes my phone not functional. my problem is that the DATA connectivity has lost completely can brows or any simple thing that requires data.. tried numerous things, such as updating my profile which Fails, PRL, which fails, Every ## method i can think of. I also tried going back to stock VIA ADB... still no data, its as if i had a bad activation...AND SPRINT TECH are totally of no use..they cant even realize that the # methods are different..I am wondering if i need to enter anything in the settings??searched and searched google and i just think that the support on the device is so poor that google almost fails to recognize the problems in actual writing...Now im stuck wondering if i should go back to my EVO again!!!
I'm on sprint too and also wondering if I want me evo back. I do like the phone though and pure Google is awesome. I'm nit one of those people who just looks to break balls and get return after return simply because I'm able to. I've also had to purchase a new $30 zagg with each exchange so I'm out an additional $120. I can't imagine walking back into the store for my 5th nexus. They also said after 3 there not allowed to do exchanges for the same device, its time to get into a new one. I have read all the issues that the last couple of updates has brought to the color profile of the Nexus but I'm pretty sure the others were all on the same software. Can anyone confirm when 2.3.4 rolled out ota?
The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green.
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They've always been green when you have a signal ... white while you are acquiring a signal.
"Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys."
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Yep, always been this way. You probably didn't notice because of the incorrect colour space ...
"The colors are washed out"
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If you've read the forums you'll know this is a divisive point: some think the over-saturated purple-heavy colour space used prior to 2.3 is better looking, and some think that the correct colour space is, of course, correct. You make your own mind up. Read the other threads on the topic.
OK so after a bit more time with the phone here's what I'm finding.
I can't remember what software version the first batch of nexus units had but this one is running 2.3.4. I've read that one if the updates has totally screwed up the colors on the Nexus S but this seems to have been one of the updates the TMO version got, I think the ns4g shipped with 2.3.4. Still need someone to confirm this because if my first 3 were running earlier software then its possible that's why this one looks very different. It doesn't seem to be s faulty display because its really only the UI that's affected. Photos sbd such do not look washed out. When outside the deep dark blacks and vibrant colors come back, head indoors and the washed out display is very noticeable. Could this be an issue with the auto brightness?? I could really use some help here guys, especially if someone knows for sure if yhr Sprint version has been updated to 2.3.4 or if it shipped with 2.3.5. Thanks
Most of your questions are found by Googling or searching in the forums, but ill tell you what I know.
The green means that you are synced. White means that you are connected to internet but you're not synced ie you get no Google services. Gtalk, email, etc etc. You want it to be green.
As mentioned above, the washed out colors are from 2.3.3 and on. I think they changed the colors a little bit in 2.3.4 but they will still look "washed out" to someone who came straight off 2.3.2 and before.
Also, the washed out was not tmo specific. It was changed in the 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 OS which means that anyone with those versions will see this. Nexus s is a pure Google phone so the updates are all the same, not network specific.
If being in the sun makes the screen brighter or changes how your screen looks, then yes, that is the auto brightness trying to save you battery life. It does the same to me too. It's annoying I know because sometimes on cloudy days it doesn't brighten all the way but I still can't see the screen as clearly. You can change the brightness of the screen though.
Hope this helps.
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I've also had to purchase a new $30 zagg with each exchange so I'm out an additional $120.
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Zaggs have a lifetime warranty and even if you have to return your phone, take the Zagg off first and then go to Zagg.com and go to support and get a replacement. They will charge you shipping($3 I think) and as long as you send the old one back in within 60 days you will incur no more charges. Returning your phone is one of the options covered under their lifetime warranty.
While making/receiving/in call....there is a flashing red light. Did anyone else notice this besides me? It's towards the bottom left of the FC.
Is there a purpose for this?
Haha yeah dude that's the proximity sensor that cuts the screen off when you put it to your face. I noticed that last night. Pretty funny that you can actually see it.
Dude Its The Government....... Their Watching Us!
nickmv said:
Haha yeah dude that's the proximity sensor that cuts the screen off when you put it to your face. I noticed that last night. Pretty funny that you can actually see it.
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Take any camera and film your different remotes while you press their buttons and the camera will upconvert the infrared spectrum into the visible spectrum.
But I have never heard of any human able to actually see the infrared spectrum although there exists animals that can detect it.
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Take any camera and film your different remotes while you press their buttons and the camera will upconvert the infrared spectrum into the visible spectrum.
But I have never heard of any human able to actually see the infrared spectrum although there exists animals that can detect it.
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Indeed. My first thought when I saw it was "why am I seeing infrared light....what the hell?????". But anyways, no biggie. Can't really see it unless you're looking for it in the dark or something. Certainly isn't an issue or problem.
i too can see it
does that mean we are superhuman ?
Im off to try and blow stuff up with my mind. Ill report back later
azzledazzle said:
i too can see it
does that mean we are superhuman ?
Im off to try and blow stuff up with my mind. Ill report back later
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OK I thought REALLY hard and was able to levitate the One S. I'll see what else we can do with it. I think the next step is using it as a heat ray weapon.
Lol, pmsl!
I know I had nothing constructive to add to the op's post but it was very funny along with the comments, made me giggle while having my lunch
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Dude Its The Government....... Their Watching Us!
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Whose "watching us" is it? lol
Yeah, make a call in a dark room, you'll see it. But its def. the prox. sensor.
smart butts!!!
Lol, sorry I didn't mean to put inferred, I put inferred because it was red. But you guys knew what was getting at.
Thanks for the answer nickmv.
I just tested it myself and what do you know... the LED has a dim glowing red... very faint but it's there... so no... it's not really in the infrared spectrum but quite close to it nonetheless... but then again it could be a dual colored LED; one with the infrared light and one with the visible light... I don't know...
It is so freaky! But true. Only visible in a dark environment for me.
I was killing time with my one s camera and my remote control, never know u can see the inferred light from a camera, Feels like science class
It's the proximity sensor...you know, the thing that turns your screen on and off when you put the phone to your face during a phone call then move it away from your face...
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Well I'm stock T-Mobile us and the light is on when I am using Bluetooth is that suppose to happen?
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darn this thread got me excited, thought maybe the One s had another notification light that we could use for stuff! I really hate the placement of the LED on this phone, but I guess its good enough that it even has one. I wish it would glow at least, not just flash. would be a lot more noticable
I noticed it today in bright sunlight. And there is another thingy next to it. Nevertheless I find that red flickering light pretty annoying. It makes me nervous, it flickers like a ethernet status LED. Hope theres a way to turn it off...
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Did anyone solve this?
I have a problem with the sensor; If i use my headset, it won't stop blinking after I make a call. If I make a new call and immediately end the call, the sensor stops blinking.
I contacted HTC and they told me that I should send it for repairs...
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I just tested it myself and what do you know... the LED has a dim glowing red... very faint but it's there... so no... it's not really in the infrared spectrum but quite close to it nonetheless... but then again it could be a dual colored LED; one with the infrared light and one with the visible light... I don't know...
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I remember this red glow of the LED from the good old IRDA transmitters that we had in phones and laptops years ago.
If you look at the light spectrum you'll notice that Infrared is very close to red
http://www.learnmyshot.com/photos/030-infrared/infrared-spectrum-post.jpg
+1... I noticed the same "effect" on my phone last night - H/W malfunction? Does it drain a little bit a battery by "sensing" continuously? Or just a "cosmetic" matter?...
Any feedback from HTC or another source? Any way to disable it?
EDIT : "I contacted HTC and they told me that I should send it for repairs..." <- I hope it could be solved without that option ...
I've been toying around with the idea of modifying my phone to be capable of night time pictures/recording.
This is what I've done so far (yes, I'm aware my soldering job is a travesty against electronics, this was preliminary testing, I'm redoing it once I find out if possible to exchange the cameras):
Having been a lurker for several months (until now) I need to make some posts before I'm able to link my pictures.
This is the result of such:
Possibilities(?):
Considering a hardware modification to get a less "purple" shade of night vision using a replacement camera meant for the EVO 3D, as when it's used with the IR LED "rack" it provides a better picture and a longer range in zero lighting. I have not researched whether the modification is possible.
Casing attachment as an external attachment with a small switch. No research has been put into making such, yet.
Your input is always accepted.
Thanks,
EDB Rattlesnake
Very unique. Dont think Ive ever seen anything like it!
Thanks for sharing, and keep us updated. Sorry I dont have suggestions..
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Very unique. Dont think Ive ever seen anything like it!
Thanks for sharing, and keep us updated. Sorry I dont have suggestions..
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I had to share this after learning the cost of nightvision recorders, and learning that most digital cameras are capable of night vision as long as there is an IR illuminator.
Any updates that occur I'll be sure to post up.
Are there any led as powerful as the original, but IR? Could you mod the phone to have two or three leds on the same powerline so you have regular flash to or will this mess upp the photo colour?
It would be awesome with nighttime photos just for fun.
Could you post some photos and a little tutorial of where to connect everything?
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Are there any led as powerful as the original, but IR? Could you mod the phone to have two or three leds on the same powerline so you have regular flash to or will this mess upp the photo colour?
It would be awesome with nighttime photos just for fun.
Could you post some photos and a little tutorial of where to connect everything?
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This was an external attachment. I did not do any hardware modification, yet.
I wouldn't suggest IR LED replacement, as it is invisible light (not viewable by your naked eye). You could definitely exchange the LEDs, I would first find out the stock LED information before doing it. If you wanted to place several LED's on the same attachment, you're looking at upgrading more than just the LEDs and doing phone body modifications. I would suggest using an external attachment, given it's removable, easier, and much safer than taking apart your phone.
Pictures of the attachment will go up upon my reaching ten posts (that of which I will not break forum rules to achieve).
Have patience please. :victory:
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This was an external attachment. I did not do any hardware modification, yet.
I wouldn't suggest IR LED replacement, as it is invisible light (not viewable by your naked eye). You could definitely exchange the LEDs, I would first find out the stock LED information before doing it. If you wanted to place several LED's on the same attachment, you're looking at upgrading more than just the LEDs and doing phone body modifications. I would suggest using an external attachment, given it's removable, easier, and much safer than taking apart your phone.
Pictures of the attachment will go up upon my reaching ten posts (that of which I will not break forum rules to achieve).
Have patience please. :victory:
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Ah, i was thinking of switching to a stronger led on the original, i have two G2s any way, and i thought i could add a extra IR one to, just for fun,
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Ah, i was thinking of switching to a stronger led on the original, i have two G2s any way, and i thought i could add a extra IR one to, just for fun,
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I don't see why that couldn't be done. I'd assume that if you attached the IR to the same circuit the regular LED is on, they would both respond to the flash modes. Personally, I'd mount the IR LED next to the camera, and wire it through the phones battery with an external switch. I'd recommend a 10mm over the standard 5mm LED size. Also the closest you can get the LED to 1k the wavelength without going over, the better. The closest I know is 950.
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I don't see why that couldn't be done. I'd assume that if you attached the IR to the same circuit the regular LED is on, they would both respond to the flash modes. Personally, I'd mount the IR LED next to the camera, and wire it through the phones battery with an external switch. I'd recommend a 10mm over the standard 5mm LED size. Also the closest you can get the LED to 1k the wavelength without going over, the better. The closest I know is 950.
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My only problem is that i can´t find the mW of the led supply, i know that cyanogenmod has a brightness mode in their torch app, wich has to raise the mW, and i want to know how high it can go without frying the electronics. becouse this would be nice to add to the phone to
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