red flashing infared light.....anyone else notice? - HTC One S

While making/receiving/in call....there is a flashing red light. Did anyone else notice this besides me? It's towards the bottom left of the FC.
Is there a purpose for this?

Haha yeah dude that's the proximity sensor that cuts the screen off when you put it to your face. I noticed that last night. Pretty funny that you can actually see it.

Dude Its The Government....... Their Watching Us!

nickmv said:
Haha yeah dude that's the proximity sensor that cuts the screen off when you put it to your face. I noticed that last night. Pretty funny that you can actually see it.
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Take any camera and film your different remotes while you press their buttons and the camera will upconvert the infrared spectrum into the visible spectrum.
But I have never heard of any human able to actually see the infrared spectrum although there exists animals that can detect it.

Thiesen said:
Take any camera and film your different remotes while you press their buttons and the camera will upconvert the infrared spectrum into the visible spectrum.
But I have never heard of any human able to actually see the infrared spectrum although there exists animals that can detect it.
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Indeed. My first thought when I saw it was "why am I seeing infrared light....what the hell?????". But anyways, no biggie. Can't really see it unless you're looking for it in the dark or something. Certainly isn't an issue or problem.

i too can see it
does that mean we are superhuman ?
Im off to try and blow stuff up with my mind. Ill report back later

azzledazzle said:
i too can see it
does that mean we are superhuman ?
Im off to try and blow stuff up with my mind. Ill report back later
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OK I thought REALLY hard and was able to levitate the One S. I'll see what else we can do with it. I think the next step is using it as a heat ray weapon.

Lol, pmsl!
I know I had nothing constructive to add to the op's post but it was very funny along with the comments, made me giggle while having my lunch
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Slicktune said:
Dude Its The Government....... Their Watching Us!
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Whose "watching us" is it? lol
Yeah, make a call in a dark room, you'll see it. But its def. the prox. sensor.

smart butts!!!
Lol, sorry I didn't mean to put inferred, I put inferred because it was red. But you guys knew what was getting at.
Thanks for the answer nickmv.

I just tested it myself and what do you know... the LED has a dim glowing red... very faint but it's there... so no... it's not really in the infrared spectrum but quite close to it nonetheless... but then again it could be a dual colored LED; one with the infrared light and one with the visible light... I don't know...

It is so freaky! But true. Only visible in a dark environment for me.

I was killing time with my one s camera and my remote control, never know u can see the inferred light from a camera, Feels like science class

It's the proximity sensor...you know, the thing that turns your screen on and off when you put the phone to your face during a phone call then move it away from your face...
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Well I'm stock T-Mobile us and the light is on when I am using Bluetooth is that suppose to happen?
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darn this thread got me excited, thought maybe the One s had another notification light that we could use for stuff! I really hate the placement of the LED on this phone, but I guess its good enough that it even has one. I wish it would glow at least, not just flash. would be a lot more noticable

I noticed it today in bright sunlight. And there is another thingy next to it. Nevertheless I find that red flickering light pretty annoying. It makes me nervous, it flickers like a ethernet status LED. Hope theres a way to turn it off...
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Did anyone solve this?
I have a problem with the sensor; If i use my headset, it won't stop blinking after I make a call. If I make a new call and immediately end the call, the sensor stops blinking.
I contacted HTC and they told me that I should send it for repairs...

Thiesen said:
I just tested it myself and what do you know... the LED has a dim glowing red... very faint but it's there... so no... it's not really in the infrared spectrum but quite close to it nonetheless... but then again it could be a dual colored LED; one with the infrared light and one with the visible light... I don't know...
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I remember this red glow of the LED from the good old IRDA transmitters that we had in phones and laptops years ago.
If you look at the light spectrum you'll notice that Infrared is very close to red
http://www.learnmyshot.com/photos/030-infrared/infrared-spectrum-post.jpg

+1... I noticed the same "effect" on my phone last night - H/W malfunction? Does it drain a little bit a battery by "sensing" continuously? Or just a "cosmetic" matter?...
Any feedback from HTC or another source? Any way to disable it?
EDIT : "I contacted HTC and they told me that I should send it for repairs..." <- I hope it could be solved without that option ...

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2 dots near earpiece?

this might be a big time noob question but that's the 2 dots near the earpiece? looks like a camera or led?
can't find anything on the web about it.
One is possibly the light sensor and I don't know what the other one is. A blinking LED would be nice to have though.
the are probably the proximity sensor and light sensor. Well that would make the most sense to me at least.
I keep staring at the two dots and I'm convinced big brother is watching me. Lol
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canister214 said:
I keep staring at the two dots and I'm convinced big brother is watching me. Lol
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He is, and every time he gets a really close look at your ear, he turns off the display so your ear doesn't start randomly pressing "buttons".
The one on the Right is the Proximity Sensor and the one on the Left is probably the Ambient Light Sensor.
If you start a call (to say voicemail) and touch just the right side it will turn off the screen. If you just touch the left the screen stays on.
i lol'd, nice one.
Umm to add value to my post.. how come when i cover the sensors with my thumb, my screen doesnt get darker? I have auto brightness on.

[Q] Light Bleed?

I've seen some of you have said there is some 'bleeding of light' what does that mean actually? Are there holes in the casing or is it something with the screen? And how bad is it?
Edited to add: Despite the troll, a few people here have reported this problem first hand - however it appears to be small, so hopefully they got a rotten apple.
Having replaced my own LCD backlight, I can speak to it.
Basically the LED lamp sits on the very bottom of the tablet illuminating the tablet from the back (hence backlit), the light is supposed to be contained but sometimes the lamp housing may contain gaps and light will leak through those gaps. They appear as light flares across the above layers.
If you google Ipad 2 light leaks and view Images, you can see a great deal of reports with sample images of the symptom.
I'm not quite sure why companies don't just employ a rubber gasket or flap around the lamp housing to get a good light seal.
Kermode said:
I've seen some of you have said there is some 'bleeding of light' what does that mean actually? Are there holes in the casing or is it something with the screen? And how bad is it?
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I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
checkbox111 said:
I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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There was a comment on one of the android forums.
I noticed it when I first switched on my device, but it was late at night in a very dark room, and brightness was on full. I have brightness set to auto now, and I have never noticed this again.
I am very intolerant of defects such as this, so if I am not seeing it, it's fair to say there isn't a problem. Of course that's just my opinion, but I really don't think it is an issue.
Hold on a moment .......OK, I've just gone and stood in a dark room, and brought up the Gallery App, because it has a dark border. No backlight bleed obvious until I turned the brightness up to maximum, at which point there was a vague semi-circle of backlight just to the right of the keyboard dock. Turning the brightness down to a sensible level solved the problem.
Hope this reassures you. I should perhaps point out that I have no affiliation with Asus, or Google, and no vested interested in device sales.
checkbox111 said:
I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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It's pretty rare I think. I've only read it on a couple of occasions and as far as I know it's the only physical issue with the tablet. Everyone keeps raving about it's build quality. So, if there is any light leak in mine (when I eventually get it) I'm swapping it. Just another reason to try it in the store
djklmnop said:
Basically the LED lamp sits on the very bottom of the tablet illuminating the tablet from the back (hence backlit), the light is supposed to be contained but sometimes the lamp housing may contain gaps and light will leak through those gaps. They appear as light flares across the above layers.
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I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
djklmnop said:
If you google Ipad 2 light leaks and view Images, you can see a great deal of reports with sample images of the symptom.
I'm not quite sure why companies don't just employ a rubber gasket or flap around the lamp housing to get a good light seal.
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Ah that is the problem. Yeah i have that on my computer monitor :-/
Hope there isn't a lot of that on the transformer
checkbox111 said:
I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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The very first thread here, where people were asking for this forum to be made, there were a few people who said theirs had bleed (and a few others said the sound was uneven in playback, one side very loud the other low)
I haven't seen much, so perhaps its only a few unlucky people.
Kermode said:
The very first thread here, where people were asking for this forum to be made, there were a few people who said theirs had bleed (and a few others said the sound was uneven in playback, one side very loud the other low)
I haven't seen much, so perhaps its only a few unlucky people.
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It was two people as they quoted 'has anyone' and 'i heard that there was' in other words the first person might have had it, but hasn't said anything since, the other person has heard a 'rumour'
I'm seeing a connection here between 'tablets' and 'tabloid' newspapers.
checkbox111 said:
It was two people as they quoted 'has anyone' and 'i heard that there was'
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No, spare me your rolleyes crap. It was people saying: My device has this problem. And some saying I'm returning it.
I've been reading a ton of sites about this device, and may have gotten confused about which site i read it on, but clearly there is no mistake when people say they have the problem, so don't accuse people of lying.
It certainly is mentioned here http://android.modaco.com/content/asus-eee-pad-transformer-transformer-modaco-com/336683/eee-pad-transformers-owners-thread-14-04-2011-first-post-updated/
"I had started to noticed light on my screen that shouldn't be there. This obviously is a backlight bleeding problem. ... the manager then took a look in the dark and he noticed it and said it was a fault with the screen and I can get a replacement."
http://www.avforums.com/forums/14430336-post46.html
"Screen. Some light bleed unfortunately (this is also being reported by other users on XDA forums/Modaco etc) - not a deal breaker, but it is there.. admittedly only noticable when using at night... Still great images though. "
(So he's probably not returning it)
checkbox111 said:
in other words the first person might have had it, but hasn't said anything since, the other person has heard a 'rumour'
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No, in other words: You probably make up stuff all the time and think everybody else does. Stop that.
checkbox111 said:
I'm seeing a connection here between 'tablets' and 'tabloid' newspapers.
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I'm seeing you on my ignore list.
Kermode said:
I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
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That's the way led technology works, but lcd (and i think ips) uses backlights.
I have a little bit of light bleed about 1.5" up on the right hand side of the screen... It's about the size of a 5p coin.
I'm not going to worry about getting anything done about it I don't think. I only notice in in the settings screen, and I'm rarely in there. When I'm in portrait mode, I just see it as a 'glow' on the taskbar.
dcmtnbkr said:
That's the way led technology works, but lcd (and i think ips) uses backlights.
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lights - plural? So more than one, right?
Kermode said:
I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
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Ah yes, you're right. Was thinking Flouro. In any case, light is leaking reflecting off small gaps from the edges and into the upper layers.
Have you ever tried to completely seal out all light out of a room? It is insanely difficult and amazing how much gets through.
Putzy said:
I have a little bit of light bleed about 1.5" up on the right hand side of the screen... It's about the size of a 5p coin.
I'm not going to worry about getting anything done about it I don't think. I only notice in in the settings screen, and I'm rarely in there. When I'm in portrait mode, I just see it as a 'glow' on the taskbar.
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One guy said his disappeared when he turned down the brightness of the device.
djklmnop said:
Ah yes, you're right. Was thinking Flouro. In any case, light is leaking reflecting off small gaps from the edges and into the upper layers.
Have you ever tried to completely seal out all light out of a room? It is insanely difficult and amazing how much gets through.
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No I haven't I generally don't blank out all light and watch stuff that way so I guess i'm ok (incidentally I hear that is bad for the eyes, watching tv in a totally dark room, but that's another talk)
Kermode said:
One guy said his disappeared when he turned down the brightness of the device.
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I'm already on half light, any lower and the screen looks stupid.
Putzy said:
I'm already on half light, any lower and the screen looks stupid.
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I hear it disappears completely when you turn off the device
Kermode said:
lights - plural? So more than one, right?
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Typicaly there are two light sources - at the bottom and at the top of the screen (or on the left and on the right - my LCD monitor has it that way). Sometimes there is only one source - on the bottom mostly.
I'm not sure about this but as far as I know LED backlight works the same way - it's only at the top or bottom in most displays. Some better LCD TVs with LED backlight have more LEDs behind the screen - but it's pricy to do so I doubt tablets will have it that way.
I have a reasonable amount of light bleed on my Transformer. Areas on the horizontal and vertical near the home button.
In addition, a couple of spots on the right hand side vertical.
No major drama, called Comet and they are sending me a replacement, though not until next Thursday when they predict they will have more stock, though given what I have been reading today on various sites, that date could slip a little. Doesn't matter though, my replacement request is logged and will happen when it happens.
On the down side, by the time I get a replacement I will have spent ages getting it just how I want it.
On the up side, I get to have all the fun of setting it up again.
On a side note, having cancelled a preorder for a Xoom through PCWorld and bought the Transformer, I finally got to play with the Xoom on the shelf today.
Definitely made the right decision.
The Transformer just feels better made, and despite the fact that the Xoom has excellent viewing angles, the screen is not a patch on the Transformer, oh, and did I mention the small fact of 100 quid!
The reason I started to asks about this is because I'm a bit skittish about light bleed, having once had a monitor and the store just thinking i was nuts "there is nothing wrong with this monitor its just you" - thanks a lot! Humpf.

LG rep supervisor(not bleed, just lighting issue)?

Rep supervisor said that the reason for the yellow tint was from a light and it wasn't bleeding. Rep said bleeding is liquid rainbow color and not to worry.The issue is being looked into howv the tint wont get worse . What do u guys think?. Is this the answer we been looking for....post your answer..lets get screenshots from everyone...so we can compare just attach screenshot and upload
i had a tmobile sales person told me the bleeding was a software issue. not hardware. and lg is working on fixing it.. that's when i stopped takign them seriously
Rainbow effect? Lmfao I hope you don't think that is a correct answer... backlight bleeding is when light escapes creating a glowing effect on dark screens..... rainbowing comes from a bad light in the phone or TV that causes leaking of ALL the colors in the spectrum through. Light backgrounds or screens..... if you really got that "answer" from a LG Rep God help us all
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lol LG is doing an incredible job with their answers
in the email they sent to me it said "use automatic brightness, this should solve the issue"
Close thread question answered Problem solved lol.
charlieb620 said:
Close thread question answered Problem solved lol.
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+1 for sarcasm LOL Mega fail on lg
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Edit.....sorry guys..not rainbow.....but liquid like and blotchy...sorry for mistake..LG Rep said it was basically lighting that is the cause.......we need to document discuss severity and others need to call in
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Edit.....sorry guys..not rainbow.....but liquid like and blotchy...sorry for mistake..LG Rep said it was basically lighting that is the cause.......we need to document discuss severity and others need to call in
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Its not the lights fault its them damn. No I'm not racist
LG needs to own up and stop making random guess's why the screen is all jacked. Up...... it's because faulty quality checks and poor manufacturing
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Rep supervisor said that the reason for the yellow tint was from a light and it wasn't bleeding. Rep said bleeding is liquid rainbow color and not to worry.The issue is being looked into howv the tint wont get worse . What do u guys think?. Is this the answer we been looking for....post your answer..lets get screenshots from everyone...so we can compare just attach screenshot and upload
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That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard. It is so obvious that light isn't suppose to ''bleed'' through the LCD panel. It is hardware issue and there is not way to fix it with software updates. However I believe that the random reboots are software related, so I would tell them to work on that fix software-wise and to replace our defective phones with ones that don't bleed!
Remember everyone the tint is only on startup black screen and only is on peripherial corners...its never. In middle ...makes ya think
nate420 said:
Its not the lights fault its them damn. No I'm not racist
LG needs to own up and stop making random guess's why the screen is all jacked. Up...... it's because faulty quality checks and poor manufacturing
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Eventhough you are not a racist, I will not tolerate any racist comments.
I had an issue like this on my samsung tv, i had some light clouds on the corners of my tv lcd panel, so i took a screw driver and loosened up the screws on the casing of the tv and the clouds and bleeding went away, im gonna try that with my phone and see if that may work.
P.S. In case anybody wants to know what tv i have, its a ln52a650 samsung.
I was actually thinking about doing the same thing. It somewhat makes sense.
deviusdragger said:
I had an issue like this on my samsung tv, i had some light clouds on the corners of my tv lcd panel, so i took a screw driver and loosened up the screws on the casing of the tv and the clouds and bleeding went away, im gonna try that with my phone and see if that may work.
P.S. In case anybody wants to know what tv i have, its a ln52a650 samsung.
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Rep supervisor said that the reason for the yellow tint was from a light and it wasn't bleeding.
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Yes, its obviously from the backlight LED, as there is inadequate light barrier between the point source and the edge of the LCD. The phone is a tight sandwich of parts and if the assembly of the backlight, its diffuser backplane and the LCD are off just a fraction of a millimeter, you'll get corner leakage.
Based on my experience with repairing phones, it may be easy to fix with a small shim or a piece of tape over the corner LED.

[Q] Notification Light?

It looks like there is a light on the front but it never blinks. Is this a setting somewhere that I cannot find?
There is no notification light -- sorry.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088261&highlight=notification+status+light
BankZZ said:
It looks like there is a light on the front but it never blinks. Is this a setting somewhere that I cannot find?
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It's one of the sensors (light or proximity) to be sure; a lot of people make the same mistake on the various Samsung devices. There's definitely no notification LED on this device.
WOW, that sucks. I really miss that and a hardware camera button. I don't think I am going to keep this phone too long. The phone is OK but not great. I need an upgrade.
BankZZ said:
WOW, that sucks. I really miss that and a hardware camera button. I don't think I am going to keep this phone too long. The phone is OK but not great. I need an upgrade.
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Try the NOLED app from the Market. Doesn't drain power any more than a hardware LED notifier does, and lots of people love it. You can even set it up for different notices. It turns on a pixel or two on the regular screen when you have a notification come in.
There's a couple of 3rd party camera apps (Vignette is one that I use) that let you map the volume buttons to snap your photo (great for those discreet shots) or make the entire screen the tap zone for taking a pic.
Amazing how much difference there is in how we all think the importance of a notification LED is. I rarely pay attention to the one on my TB, and never really missed it on all the Galaxy S devices I've had over the last year. An LED for missed calls was a must on old flip phones, but I guess since my smart phones are constantly in my hand and getting looked at for some other reason, I don't notice it gone.
The lack of a kickstand bugs me more than the lack of an LED...never would have guessed that until I'd gotten used to using one on my TB.
BankZZ said:
WOW, that sucks. I really miss that and a hardware camera button. I don't think I am going to keep this phone too long. The phone is OK but not great. I need an upgrade.
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Just saw this over in the development section. You might find it interesting for the camera: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144885

(Q) Replacing one camera LED with IR

I haven't actually tested the IR levels with the back camera yet... do you guys think an IR LED would improve night vision? Replacing one LED might be pretty cool.
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Are you talking like how Sony has the night shot to record in 0 lux ( pitch dark )?
If so when a Sony camcorder goes into night shot the shutter speeds get slowed down a bit to achieve NS, and for SNS ( super night shot ) the shutter is slowed even more. So it could work for still images if you could disable one led to use only the infrared led as the regular led would overpower the IR beam and make it useless. But that's my theory because I used to to tons of ghost hunts with NS cams
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strapped365 said:
Are you talking like how Sony has the night shot to record in 0 lux ( pitch dark )?
If so when a Sony camcorder goes into night shot the shutter speeds get slowed down a bit to achieve NS, and for SNS ( super night shot ) the shutter is slowed even more. So it could work for still images if you could disable one led to use only the infrared led as the regular led would overpower the IR beam and make it useless. But that's my theory because I used to to tons of ghost hunts with NS cams
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I liked how the original Sony camcorder with "night shot" had an interesting quirk. The IR could be activated in daylight, and by doing so when you took pics of people you would be able to, in effect, see through their clothing. It was a bit of a scandal at first, Sony recalled all the camcorders. But of course, many people didn't return them. Subsequent models had circuitry to prevent the IR from activating in daylight.
@Fuzi0719
Really? Never thought this one exists. Could there be a possibility someone else is still selling something like this on ebay? This is one of my hobbies. Collecting things which were released but was meant not to be or should I call it rare items.
Fuzi0719 said:
I liked how the original Sony camcorder with "night shot" had an interesting quirk. The IR could be activated in daylight, and by doing so when you took pics of people you would be able to, in effect, see through their clothing. It was a bit of a scandal at first, Sony recalled all the camcorders. But of course, many people didn't return them. Subsequent models had circuitry to prevent the IR from activating in daylight.
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I might be a young one but I remember reading about this and seeing some demo on youtube. It was nuckin futs that's for sure.
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Riyal said:
@Fuzi0719
Really? Never thought this one exists. Could there be a possibility someone else is still selling something like this on ebay? This is one of my hobbies. Collecting things which were released but was meant not to be or should I call it rare items.
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http://money.cnn.com/1998/08/14/technology/camera_pkg/
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http://money.cnn.com/1998/08/14/technology/camera_pkg/
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I think that article was Sony-paid FUD. I owned one of those cameras and I can assure you it revealed far more detail than they claim in that article. The heat signature of your body is very visible through the clothing, with a lot of detail in some cases. Let's just say that I could tell if a guy was circumcised or not very easily.
Yea pretty much the Sony Nightshot! If you look on YouTube there's a video by a Do-it-yourselfer named Kipkay that threw together a hobby box filled with IR LEDs and did a video comparison, and his is much brighter/clearer.
I guess one LED won't do it then.
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This is our camera showing IR light from a TV remote... so that means their is no IR filter(????) I figure if I string up 5 LEDs in series, I might get something useful. Ill order a bunch and see what happens!
My ideal dream is to power a strip of LED's using USB OTG support. So I can plug straight in through MICROUSB.
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