(Q) Replacing one camera LED with IR - T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide

I haven't actually tested the IR levels with the back camera yet... do you guys think an IR LED would improve night vision? Replacing one LED might be pretty cool.
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Are you talking like how Sony has the night shot to record in 0 lux ( pitch dark )?
If so when a Sony camcorder goes into night shot the shutter speeds get slowed down a bit to achieve NS, and for SNS ( super night shot ) the shutter is slowed even more. So it could work for still images if you could disable one led to use only the infrared led as the regular led would overpower the IR beam and make it useless. But that's my theory because I used to to tons of ghost hunts with NS cams
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strapped365 said:
Are you talking like how Sony has the night shot to record in 0 lux ( pitch dark )?
If so when a Sony camcorder goes into night shot the shutter speeds get slowed down a bit to achieve NS, and for SNS ( super night shot ) the shutter is slowed even more. So it could work for still images if you could disable one led to use only the infrared led as the regular led would overpower the IR beam and make it useless. But that's my theory because I used to to tons of ghost hunts with NS cams
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I liked how the original Sony camcorder with "night shot" had an interesting quirk. The IR could be activated in daylight, and by doing so when you took pics of people you would be able to, in effect, see through their clothing. It was a bit of a scandal at first, Sony recalled all the camcorders. But of course, many people didn't return them. Subsequent models had circuitry to prevent the IR from activating in daylight.

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Really? Never thought this one exists. Could there be a possibility someone else is still selling something like this on ebay? This is one of my hobbies. Collecting things which were released but was meant not to be or should I call it rare items.

Fuzi0719 said:
I liked how the original Sony camcorder with "night shot" had an interesting quirk. The IR could be activated in daylight, and by doing so when you took pics of people you would be able to, in effect, see through their clothing. It was a bit of a scandal at first, Sony recalled all the camcorders. But of course, many people didn't return them. Subsequent models had circuitry to prevent the IR from activating in daylight.
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I might be a young one but I remember reading about this and seeing some demo on youtube. It was nuckin futs that's for sure.
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Riyal said:
@Fuzi0719
Really? Never thought this one exists. Could there be a possibility someone else is still selling something like this on ebay? This is one of my hobbies. Collecting things which were released but was meant not to be or should I call it rare items.
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http://money.cnn.com/1998/08/14/technology/camera_pkg/

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http://money.cnn.com/1998/08/14/technology/camera_pkg/
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I think that article was Sony-paid FUD. I owned one of those cameras and I can assure you it revealed far more detail than they claim in that article. The heat signature of your body is very visible through the clothing, with a lot of detail in some cases. Let's just say that I could tell if a guy was circumcised or not very easily.

Yea pretty much the Sony Nightshot! If you look on YouTube there's a video by a Do-it-yourselfer named Kipkay that threw together a hobby box filled with IR LEDs and did a video comparison, and his is much brighter/clearer.
I guess one LED won't do it then.
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This is our camera showing IR light from a TV remote... so that means their is no IR filter(????) I figure if I string up 5 LEDs in series, I might get something useful. Ill order a bunch and see what happens!
My ideal dream is to power a strip of LED's using USB OTG support. So I can plug straight in through MICROUSB.
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[Q] camera issues?

What's up with the camera? it seems pretty crappy compared to the Droid Incredible that I just replaced. It doesn't seem to rotate when you take a landscape as opposed to vertical orientation. Uploading pics to the by text keeps the picture in the wrong orientation. I'm hoping the camera gets an overhaul at some point.
I Donno about all that. I just think it takes crappy photos. Side by side comparison of the Thunderbolt, Continuum, and the DX, show its image quality is worse than all of them... by far. That's indoor, outdoor, resolution and white balance.
Its the worse camera on a phone I've owned since my OG Droid. Even if memory serves me right, my BB Tour had much better image quality.
I can upload some cropped comparison photos of the aforementioned phones if there's intrest.
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Very odd complaints considering that every single professional review i've seen talks about the camera being one of the best, if not *the* best they've seen on a phone. Mine comes today, will be curious to see how I do in this dept...the camera quality was one of the things that sold me on it.
I've found the pictures taken with my Charge to be on par with my old Incredible--which is to say, very good.
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Very odd complaints considering that every single professional review i've seen talks about the camera being one of the best, if not *the* best they've seen on a phone. Mine comes today, will be curious to see how I do in this dept...the camera quality was one of the things that sold me on it.
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I totally agree with what you're saying. But when I got mine I was very disappointed
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Awesome Pictures and HD Video on the Droid Charge!
Grizzld said:
I've found the pictures taken with my Charge to be on par with my old Incredible--which is to say, very good.
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The picture quality on mine is better than my HTC Incredible and it had a awesome camera compared to the competition!
Video quality on the Charge is also better than my HTC Incredible, it's smoother and the image quality is superb!
Only annoyance is the case design allows easy fingerprints on the camera lens that I frequently clean off with a microfiber cloth to keep it from messing up pictures or video.
*If your camera isn't taking good pictures, clean the lens with a microfiber cloth.
**Also to note, the El' cleapo supplied Class 2 SD card is too slow to take good quality HD video. I changed mine out for a Class 10 card and it's silky smooth and fast.
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Tornlogic said:
I totally agree with what you're saying. But when I got mine I was very disappointed
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Are you still within the time frame to exchange? I took some shots with mine today when I got it and they came out just as good as the reviews promised. Easily the clearest and cleanest pics i've gotten from a phone, ever. There has to be something going on with yours. Even a warranty exchange might be worth it.
+1 on camera being great. Worlds better than my thunderbolt. The incredible had an awesome camera as well.
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kgbeezr1 said:
Are you still within the time frame to exchange? I took some shots with mine today when I got it and they came out just as good as the reviews promised. Easily the clearest and cleanest pics i've gotten from a phone, ever. There has to be something going on with yours. Even a warranty exchange might be worth it.
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Yea ill look into it. I can still exchange it. Only had the phone for a couple days. Hopefully its a bad sensor or something.
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I think the quality of the pictures is good. It's just the camera software I think that sucks.. Just seems to be clunky and hard to take a good picture. The Dinc was just easier all I was sayin.. Is there a setting or something that will auto rotate the screen when switching from portrait to landscape? I'm going to just buy a cannon rebel for good pics, but this is handy when backpacking or something you know..

[Q] Face Unlock: Yes or Nay ?

For those running ICS how do you like it? I think it's a "nice" feature, but IRL it's pretty useless. You have to hold your phone way to far from your face (and look pretty dumb), with the front facing camera not being centered it's pretty hard to get a clean angle and overall it's way too long to unlock your phone.
Gesture FTW
I agree its cool to play with but in day to day life it is kind of a pain in the butt
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At least at the current state I think face unlock is nothing but a gimmick.
Taking pic at low light initially = 0/10 worked in low light / 2/10 worked in normal light
Taking pic at normal light conditions = 0/10 worked in low light / 6/10 worked in normal light
I just use it to brag about ICS to my friends. They get amazed by it.
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I haven't flashed any of the ICS ROMs yet, but I've been using the app Visidon from the Market and it's very practical.
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For those running ICS how do you like it? I think it's a "nice" feature, but IRL it's pretty useless. You have to hold your phone way to far from your face (and look pretty dumb), with the front facing camera not being centered it's pretty hard to get a clean angle and overall it's way too long to unlock your phone.
Gesture FTW
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Security of face unlock is risible at the current state. Might as well have a simple PIN or no security at all. Until it can reliably tell a picture from your real face, then it's bull....!
whats face unlock??
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whats face unlock??
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Unlocking the lock screen using the front camera to recognize your face.

Can you fix a dead camera pixel?

I seem to have a dead pixel in my camera which not only shows up in the camera's viewfinder, but also is present in the actual pictures once they're taken and saved. The screen itself is fine and after doing some reading online I've found that some digital cameras have an option to "clean" the camera sensor but I cannot seem to be able to find an app that will do that. Does anyone know of a fix for something like this?
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The only dead pixel apps in the market seem to be for finding those in the screen itself, nothing for the camera.
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I have this problem too black smudges show up on the screen and pictures when i use the camera.
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JihadSquad said:
I have this problem too black smudges show up on the screen and pictures when i use the camera.
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Clean your lens.
GreenMunky-has this happened before or is it a new problem?
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Clean your lens.
GreenMunky-has this happened before or is it a new problem?
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Kvswim- never happened before. The last picture I had taken and saved in my gallery was on 11/17 and there was no dead pixel then. But every time I open the camera, Goggles, or any camera app at all the dead pixel is in the same spot. It's tiny but you can zoom in on it on any picture that I take.
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Clean your lens.
GreenMunky-has this happened before or is it a new problem?
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How would I do that? There is nothing on the very outside plastic covering. Either there is something on the sensor itself or it contains dead pixels.
GreenMunky said:
I seem to have a dead pixel in my camera which not only shows up in the camera's viewfinder, but also is present in the actual pictures once they're taken and saved. The screen itself is fine and after doing some reading online I've found that some digital cameras have an option to "clean" the camera sensor but I cannot seem to be able to find an app that will do that. Does anyone know of a fix for something like this?
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Yeah. Stuck pixel fixers work on the principle that a pixel isn't actually dead, but simply stuck. some actually die and you can't fix them. (we're talking about screens, not sensors). When a pixel gets stuck on a screen, you can keep trying to tell the pixel to shift thousands of times per minute and sometimes it will unstick it, like trying to open a rusty door.
Now on the pixel side, there isn't really a way to force it to start capturing light again and filtering the way it should. I know that the Canon Hack software/firmware for canon cameras have dead-pixel-finders so that you can compensate for the dead pixels, (via filtering in software) and you might be able to find something similar for Android, but it seems doubtful to find this for the phones.
sorry dude. Like they said, you might try cleaning the lens intricately. It could be something that is stuck right there in front.
I have the exact same problem. Three black smudges that are there and show up in every camera app, the viewfinder and even after the pictures are saved. It wasn't happening up until before a month or two ago. The smudges are almost translucent because i can almost see a bit of light coming through them so they might not be the lens. Never seen this happen before on any camera. I even tried cleaning it off very well but that doesn't fix it. Any suggestions?
Just called VZW Tech Support this afternoon... they're overnight shipping me a new Charge which should be here tomorrow afternoon.
same problem
I am also having the same problem.
The pixels are dead and showing a black thick line which destroys the pics.
First I thought that it may be dirt so I cleaned the camera but nothing happened I then realised that the line is not changing with focus or else its intensity should change with focus also when I zoom the pic its size also increases and looks very odd.
By viewing it, it is clear that its not dirt but the pixels are dead.
Pls help me I am a photographer and I only have my android phone as my camera..
It will destroy my photos.
i also have problem with my phone, im not sure if it's a dead pixel.
it only shows when im using the camera i can see red dot when i take picture in black or any dark background. it really annoys me. please i need help . can i still fix it?
I had that problem with my motoe6plus. Ir seems that the default software for the camera doesnt force the potencial of the camera itself.(thats what i think) so it fixed with the 'open camera' app. IT waS verry irritating for me so i hope youll fondo a solution

red flashing infared light.....anyone else notice?

While making/receiving/in call....there is a flashing red light. Did anyone else notice this besides me? It's towards the bottom left of the FC.
Is there a purpose for this?
Haha yeah dude that's the proximity sensor that cuts the screen off when you put it to your face. I noticed that last night. Pretty funny that you can actually see it.
Dude Its The Government....... Their Watching Us!
nickmv said:
Haha yeah dude that's the proximity sensor that cuts the screen off when you put it to your face. I noticed that last night. Pretty funny that you can actually see it.
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Take any camera and film your different remotes while you press their buttons and the camera will upconvert the infrared spectrum into the visible spectrum.
But I have never heard of any human able to actually see the infrared spectrum although there exists animals that can detect it.
Thiesen said:
Take any camera and film your different remotes while you press their buttons and the camera will upconvert the infrared spectrum into the visible spectrum.
But I have never heard of any human able to actually see the infrared spectrum although there exists animals that can detect it.
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Indeed. My first thought when I saw it was "why am I seeing infrared light....what the hell?????". But anyways, no biggie. Can't really see it unless you're looking for it in the dark or something. Certainly isn't an issue or problem.
i too can see it
does that mean we are superhuman ?
Im off to try and blow stuff up with my mind. Ill report back later
azzledazzle said:
i too can see it
does that mean we are superhuman ?
Im off to try and blow stuff up with my mind. Ill report back later
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OK I thought REALLY hard and was able to levitate the One S. I'll see what else we can do with it. I think the next step is using it as a heat ray weapon.
Lol, pmsl!
I know I had nothing constructive to add to the op's post but it was very funny along with the comments, made me giggle while having my lunch
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Dude Its The Government....... Their Watching Us!
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Whose "watching us" is it? lol
Yeah, make a call in a dark room, you'll see it. But its def. the prox. sensor.
smart butts!!!
Lol, sorry I didn't mean to put inferred, I put inferred because it was red. But you guys knew what was getting at.
Thanks for the answer nickmv.
I just tested it myself and what do you know... the LED has a dim glowing red... very faint but it's there... so no... it's not really in the infrared spectrum but quite close to it nonetheless... but then again it could be a dual colored LED; one with the infrared light and one with the visible light... I don't know...
It is so freaky! But true. Only visible in a dark environment for me.
I was killing time with my one s camera and my remote control, never know u can see the inferred light from a camera, Feels like science class
It's the proximity sensor...you know, the thing that turns your screen on and off when you put the phone to your face during a phone call then move it away from your face...
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Well I'm stock T-Mobile us and the light is on when I am using Bluetooth is that suppose to happen?
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darn this thread got me excited, thought maybe the One s had another notification light that we could use for stuff! I really hate the placement of the LED on this phone, but I guess its good enough that it even has one. I wish it would glow at least, not just flash. would be a lot more noticable
I noticed it today in bright sunlight. And there is another thingy next to it. Nevertheless I find that red flickering light pretty annoying. It makes me nervous, it flickers like a ethernet status LED. Hope theres a way to turn it off...
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Did anyone solve this?
I have a problem with the sensor; If i use my headset, it won't stop blinking after I make a call. If I make a new call and immediately end the call, the sensor stops blinking.
I contacted HTC and they told me that I should send it for repairs...
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I just tested it myself and what do you know... the LED has a dim glowing red... very faint but it's there... so no... it's not really in the infrared spectrum but quite close to it nonetheless... but then again it could be a dual colored LED; one with the infrared light and one with the visible light... I don't know...
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I remember this red glow of the LED from the good old IRDA transmitters that we had in phones and laptops years ago.
If you look at the light spectrum you'll notice that Infrared is very close to red
http://www.learnmyshot.com/photos/030-infrared/infrared-spectrum-post.jpg
+1... I noticed the same "effect" on my phone last night - H/W malfunction? Does it drain a little bit a battery by "sensing" continuously? Or just a "cosmetic" matter?...
Any feedback from HTC or another source? Any way to disable it?
EDIT : "I contacted HTC and they told me that I should send it for repairs..." <- I hope it could be solved without that option ...

Night Vision modifications

I've been toying around with the idea of modifying my phone to be capable of night time pictures/recording.
This is what I've done so far (yes, I'm aware my soldering job is a travesty against electronics, this was preliminary testing, I'm redoing it once I find out if possible to exchange the cameras):
Having been a lurker for several months (until now) I need to make some posts before I'm able to link my pictures.
This is the result of such:
Possibilities(?):
Considering a hardware modification to get a less "purple" shade of night vision using a replacement camera meant for the EVO 3D, as when it's used with the IR LED "rack" it provides a better picture and a longer range in zero lighting. I have not researched whether the modification is possible.
Casing attachment as an external attachment with a small switch. No research has been put into making such, yet.
Your input is always accepted.
Thanks,
EDB Rattlesnake
Very unique. Dont think Ive ever seen anything like it!
Thanks for sharing, and keep us updated. Sorry I dont have suggestions..
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Very unique. Dont think Ive ever seen anything like it!
Thanks for sharing, and keep us updated. Sorry I dont have suggestions..
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I had to share this after learning the cost of nightvision recorders, and learning that most digital cameras are capable of night vision as long as there is an IR illuminator.
Any updates that occur I'll be sure to post up.
Are there any led as powerful as the original, but IR? Could you mod the phone to have two or three leds on the same powerline so you have regular flash to or will this mess upp the photo colour?
It would be awesome with nighttime photos just for fun.
Could you post some photos and a little tutorial of where to connect everything?
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Are there any led as powerful as the original, but IR? Could you mod the phone to have two or three leds on the same powerline so you have regular flash to or will this mess upp the photo colour?
It would be awesome with nighttime photos just for fun.
Could you post some photos and a little tutorial of where to connect everything?
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This was an external attachment. I did not do any hardware modification, yet.
I wouldn't suggest IR LED replacement, as it is invisible light (not viewable by your naked eye). You could definitely exchange the LEDs, I would first find out the stock LED information before doing it. If you wanted to place several LED's on the same attachment, you're looking at upgrading more than just the LEDs and doing phone body modifications. I would suggest using an external attachment, given it's removable, easier, and much safer than taking apart your phone.
Pictures of the attachment will go up upon my reaching ten posts (that of which I will not break forum rules to achieve).
Have patience please. :victory:
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This was an external attachment. I did not do any hardware modification, yet.
I wouldn't suggest IR LED replacement, as it is invisible light (not viewable by your naked eye). You could definitely exchange the LEDs, I would first find out the stock LED information before doing it. If you wanted to place several LED's on the same attachment, you're looking at upgrading more than just the LEDs and doing phone body modifications. I would suggest using an external attachment, given it's removable, easier, and much safer than taking apart your phone.
Pictures of the attachment will go up upon my reaching ten posts (that of which I will not break forum rules to achieve).
Have patience please. :victory:
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Ah, i was thinking of switching to a stronger led on the original, i have two G2s any way, and i thought i could add a extra IR one to, just for fun,
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Ah, i was thinking of switching to a stronger led on the original, i have two G2s any way, and i thought i could add a extra IR one to, just for fun,
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I don't see why that couldn't be done. I'd assume that if you attached the IR to the same circuit the regular LED is on, they would both respond to the flash modes. Personally, I'd mount the IR LED next to the camera, and wire it through the phones battery with an external switch. I'd recommend a 10mm over the standard 5mm LED size. Also the closest you can get the LED to 1k the wavelength without going over, the better. The closest I know is 950.
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I don't see why that couldn't be done. I'd assume that if you attached the IR to the same circuit the regular LED is on, they would both respond to the flash modes. Personally, I'd mount the IR LED next to the camera, and wire it through the phones battery with an external switch. I'd recommend a 10mm over the standard 5mm LED size. Also the closest you can get the LED to 1k the wavelength without going over, the better. The closest I know is 950.
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My only problem is that i canĀ“t find the mW of the led supply, i know that cyanogenmod has a brightness mode in their torch app, wich has to raise the mW, and i want to know how high it can go without frying the electronics. becouse this would be nice to add to the phone to
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