Android Phones or its just G1 and MT3G.... - G1 Android Development

ok, about android phones is there a way to avoid slow/lag times after prolong usage? because it seems like my mt3g does NOT know how to "cycle" its own memory and then a week later, just like most rom's, it just suddenly SLOWS down. it pisses me off so much! when i began a new rom i could text and call quickly as the phone would normally and then eventually later on the week the most important part of my life my phone just feels like slowin down as if its under depression over something it REFUSES to forget! WTF is there to do to solve this???

diluvium said:
ok, about android phones is there a way to avoid slow/lag times after prolong usage? because it seems like my mt3g does NOT know how to "cycle" its own memory and then a week later, just like most rom's, it just suddenly SLOWS down. it pisses me off so much! when i began a new rom i could text and call quickly as the phone would normally and then eventually later on the week the most important part of my life my phone just feels like slowin down as if its under depression over something it REFUSES to forget! WTF is there to do to solve this???
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Just reboot then, either that or use a different rom...There's also the choice of getting a new phone too, you have to remember the MT3G is kind of like an upgraded G1, but with only more int memory....Same cheap 528 CPU and low 192MB RAM. Phones with these kind of specs cant help it if they slow down.

Ace42 said:
Just reboot then, either that or use a different rom...There's also the choice of getting a new phone too, you have to remember the MT3G is kind of like an upgraded G1, but with only more int memory....Same cheap 528 CPU and low 192MB RAM. Phones with these kind of specs cant help it if they slow down.
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Hi getting a MT3G 1.2 32A the new one with the same CPU MSM7200A ARM11 processor, and 288MB RAM as the HTC Hero my question is
Can it run hero roms or not ?
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zerodi said:
Hi getting a MT3G 1.2 32A the new one with the same CPU MSM7200A ARM11 processor, and 288MB RAM as the HTC Hero my question is
Can it run hero roms or not ?
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any rom you can imagine, and it works just as well as the hero too.

jcarrz1 said:
any rom you can imagine, and it works just as well as the hero too.
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I wonder... could it be? Is it because they are exactly the same phone in a different shaped plastic container?

wow awsome news !!
Froyd on the 32A here we come yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa

zerodi said:
Hi getting a MT3G 1.2 32A the new one with the same CPU MSM7200A ARM11 processor, and 288MB RAM as the HTC Hero my question is
Can it run hero roms or not ?
Thanks
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It can but you still don't have working bluetooth (unless you use a different radio version which I haven't tried).

Binary100100 said:
It can but you still don't have working bluetooth (unless you use a different radio version which I haven't tried).
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Thats ok i never use bluetooth - maybe a few years ago on a nokia i did so i can live without that
Have you tried the latest froydvillian 1.4.3
on it ? Does it all work great ?
I love the form factor of the magic better than the Hero so when i saw there was a hero in a magic body i was chuffed

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spec wise, which is better? tytn, tytn or wing?

Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Atlas
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so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
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Ray_jai said:
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so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
Thanks
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The atlas is the wing. The "non blue" version of the wing is the herald.
OOO, i see.
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how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
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Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
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how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas
T-Mobile Says the Processor is just fine.
Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
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how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The explanation that the T-Mobile officials gives for the Wing's 200mhz processor is that, the Wing dosen't need a 400mHz processor. The Tytn and Tytn 2 both have 3G support hence that requires a faster processor, but T-Mobile dosen't support 3G in first place so the processor power for that is uneccesary.
kweng_ca said:
The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas
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i really don't find it that slow, it works just fine for me. You might have too many things running at the same time or too many Start up items.
i did put the best first and
a faster cpu is always better
for video games and general performance
though kaiser is missing a driver so
it got some performance issues
Ray_jai said:
Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks
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There is no "best" one. If you want power then Tytn 2 is the best one. If you want looks and a slim phone then the Wing is. The Tilt(Tytn 2 in America) is also heaver than the wing. So you have a choice of look and feel v/s power. Also if you are planning to use T-Mobile, then some of the Tytn 2's features are useless, same with the first Tytn.
the wing prob also last longer on a charge
but specwise is prob a pure hardware feature and power question more of an usability or requirement question
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the wing prob also last longer on a charge
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possibly, since a less powerfull processor requires less battery to run.

Fastest HTC phone?

I currently have a Wing OCd to 247Mhz. I was wondering whats the fastest HTC phone out there? Processor-wise.
I preferably want one that xda-developers support, as I love the custom ROMS especially JustStable.
Anyone have any ideas? 500+Mhz pref?
I tried search function, but most questions were like G1 VS Iphone or the new toshi/samsung 1ghz phones. I would love a 1 GHz phone, but not if you guys dont make custom ROMs for it
EDIT: please include Mhz of processor if suggesting a phone. Thanks!
I believe the fastest processor HTC has used in their handsets so far is the Qualcomm 528MHz, but there are plans to release a handset (HTC Leo?) with the 1GHz snapdragon
From the ones actually on sale
Touch Pro 2
Diamond 2
I presume...
orb3000 said:
From the ones actually on sale
Touch Pro 2
Diamond 2
I presume...
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...or
Touch PRO
Diamond
They have the same processors.
Fastest phone is HTC Athena (624 mhz)
there are custom roms for it but not alot and not updated as frequent like Diamond.
D1ab70 said:
Fastest phone is HTC Athena (624 mhz)
there are custom roms for it but not alot and not updated as frequent like Diamond.
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And in a moment it will be Touch PRO
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
I'm waiting on the Leo...very bored with these current small CPU's!
cmstackar said:
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
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Read how the guy comments his achievement.. this time it seems to be faster. Of course there are lots of issues in this alpha-pre-alpha state. Lets hope he wont burn down the device
cmstackar said:
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
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true, but I bet any decent 800Mhz phone with custom ROM will beat the **** outta my Herald 201Mhz with custom ROM in terms of speed

HTC HD 3..!!!

Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html
It's a fake.
The announced SnapDragon is the dual core version if I'm not wrong.
It's just a dream concept
But many websites are confirming it..!!!
heartsurfer008 said:
But many websites are confirming it..!!!
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for instance?
plus the specs are from here!!!
woow , good!
this is fail =/
Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !
danielhere said:
Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !
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If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!
heartsurfer008 said:
If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!
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I am afraid he is right.
New WP7 reminds me of crappy iPhone interface.
Instead of getting more features and opportunities they're copying Apple style.
Hopefully with WP7.3 we will get copy and paste and with 7.4 maybe multiasking.
I will go for Android when I will change my HD2.
heartsurfer008 said:
Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html
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The first item on the list says "1.5 GB Qualcomm Snapdragon.."
ZOMG!!11!! A PHONE PROCESSOR WITH A GIG AND A HALF OF COMPUTING POWER
..what? Does that make sense to you? No. Use your head next time, man
phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility
domineus said:
phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility
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I think the point was it says GB not ghz
Edit: Also if it was an official "document" or whatever it would say "Windows Phone Series 7" or whatever the official name is, not "Windows Mobile 7"
Those specs are obviously fake...1200x800 is not a supported resolution.
I think it's a fake ... but I hope so much that is true!
If the HD3 will keep the promises .. for me it will be the first PDA without the physical keyboard!
PS: Just this HD3 can make me leave my Touch Pro 2!
Seems like a rumor for now...but it could show up in the Fall.
I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.
chambo622 said:
I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.
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It's possible that the forthcoming HTC Obsession will actually be a merger between the HD and Diamond product lines - in other words that there won't be a direct successor to the HD2 at all.
And yes, the "HD3 specs" posted earlier are a very obvious fake. We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x480; we also know that no WP7S device will be able to use a removable memory card. I really wish people would stop creating threads about these "specs" - there must have been nearly a dozen different threads about them, now. They don't get any less fake for being posted multiple times.
Well have been using HD2 for a while & was just curious, so just started this thread..!!!
Hope we get WM7 or Android sooner on HD2..!!!
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We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x4800;
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800x4800 ? Wow, that's one hell of a resolution
Since when is processor speed measured in GB? And wow they gone really far for 1 generation. from DVD qualitity to 1080p.
Also everybody is talking about HD3. Where is TP3? I want to see some new HTC models with HW KB.
Also i wish that HTC would make some tegra models instead of qualcomm. Maybe then they will provide better drivers.

windows mobile devs could OC same CPU as magic's CPU to 800Mghz

hey guys,
I saw winmo devs OCing this same Magic's CPU up to 800Mhz with great performance boost.
any one could reach same with android OS so far?
URL: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7461
thnx!
first off, the touch pro 2 isn't a magic. at all.
second of all, this is completely wrong forum. please read rules.
third, it probably never will happen. someone did it a while back and there was a huge debate about whether it worked or not and it was finally confirmed that it didn't work.
I can't find the word magic anywhere in there!!! Damnitt!!
so it leads to this question,
How did you come to the assumption that you could OC the magic when nothing about the magic is there?
The cpu is the same on the magic...
Deviser said:
The cpu is the same on the magic...
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yup thats why I've asked...thanks!
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630450
Rugga said:
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630450
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It's a shame that project died. I really believe that it's possible if the right person would try cause it already worked on a lot of phones. I used to clock my Omnia at 800Mhz which gave it a great boost and there was no real battery drain. They've also managed to clock the N900 cpu at 1Ghz:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39753
renegadEEE said:
It's a shame that project died. I really believe that it's possible if the right person would try cause it already worked on a lot of phones. I used to clock my Omnia at 800Mhz which gave it a great boost and there was no real battery drain. They've also managed to clock the N900 cpu at 1Ghz:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39753
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indeed sad :/ could give us nexus cpu power on magic if some one could work this out....
rommark said:
indeed sad :/ could give us nexus cpu power on magic if some one could work this out....
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No, it wouldn't. You're buying into the megahertz myth. The magic has a ARM11 (ARMv6) chip, whereas the N1 has a Cortex (ARMv7). It's more like a P3 against a P4 - the clockspeeds may match, but the performance is still going to be off. Not to mentium ARMv7 has a bunch of new instructions (NEON), that are not present on the v6. And the GPU still wouldn't support OpenGL ES 2.0. It may speed things up sure, but it wouldn't really matter.
sadly it's not the cpu preventing me from overclocking it! it's the software in the phone, the pll's are defined in the spl and it would take i SIGNIFICANT skill of hexing and backporting to do something about them! and by the way it would almost certainly brick the phone! i'm sorry guys the only thing i ever was able to play a litlle with was some parameters giving a little better gpu performance, but it's unstable

[Q] LG optimus 3d (RAM 512 = too little?)

I have seen other phones that are dual core too, i.e the Evo 3d, motorola atrix, but with 1gb ram. When it comes to gaming, and not just counting the 3d aspect of it. Will the 512 mb of ram be enough to run even upcoming games. Can this device stand newer games that other phones like the htc evo 3d might have no problem handling? Share some thoughts on this. thnx
omfg AGAIN???? :/
512mb are ABSOLUTELY enough!!!
just look at this review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEE65bNN8mc&feature=player_embedded
8 apps open and phone still fast
While the dual channel technology might bring some small performance benefits, 512MB will remain 512MB.
Current games should be no problem at all, but upcoming games (utilizing the unreal or unity engine for example) will definitely step up in terms of texture amount+resolution and general amount of data (see recent news of Shadowgun for example).
This could become a disadvantage at a certain point, but we´ll have to wait for some hard numbers when the time will come.
But i´m confident that the optimus 3d can keep up at least for 1 year (until we actually experience noticeable performance disadvantages with more advanced and complex games aimed at the Tegra3 Platform and other upcoming chipsets).
I have experienced some lock up'freezing issues when play the included games in 3D. I rooted my phone, so i dont know if its due to that or if its just due to the fact its a developer phone and the software is not final. I still love this phone, very fast and i get 8mb average dl's on Tmo here in the Bay Area(Hayward).
Could someone who has a pre release O3D unit have a look and see how much free ram is available after start-up please? (i'm an android newbie, not sure if this is possible on LG androids in general, without a specific app?) Just wondering how much ram the system leaves you to use....?
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Ian
i'm confused here...
i was under the impression that the concept here was tri-dual (dual core, dual channel memory, DUAL RAM) resulting in there being 1gb of ram configured as 512mb per core?
is that not what's happening?
It´s supposed to be 256|256 ^^
that's a bit dissappointing then.
however, as has been pointed out, it doesn't seem to affect overall performance much. i can see it being a hinderance to the future longevity o the phone though. a newer-than-gingerbread version of android on the horizon which will undoubtedly demand for higher specs could see this become a problem.
According to the presentation it's supposed to be memory for gpu and memory for system
Has anybody with a pre or final relase O3D managed to find out how much free ram is available after a cold start up please? (i.e no apps/games running, only a task manager) If it's something like 200 - 250mb then that should be ok i guess, HTC seem to think that amount is ok on their sensation, and that started with 768mb..... Sense 3 seems to be a bit of a resource hog, it seems.....
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Ian
i saw in a videopreview,about 340mb free.
nic85 said:
i saw in a videopreview,about 340mb free.
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Thanks for this, if you could provide a link or something i'd be grateful 340mb available is better than i'd hoped for
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Ian
can't find that,but i have this
http://www.batista70phone.com/2011/05/video-recensione-lg-optimus-3d-by-batista70phone/
18:55
300+meg of free ram is loads and there will probbaly be more if you kill off some of the crappy stock services that you might not need, for example google talk.
hefonthefjords said:
300+meg of free ram is loads and there will probbaly be more if you kill off some of the crappy stock services that you might not need, for example google talk.
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nd remember its an old software the latest as we speak is June the 5th so things must be getting better,I need this phone now its getting really tough every day trolling the web for info sad muppets we are well me anyway
cheltenham2004 said:
nd remember its an old software the latest as we speak is June the 5th so things must be getting better,I need this phone now its getting really tough every day trolling the web for info sad muppets we are well me anyway
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if it gets delayed again
hehe, agreed. i'm just fed up of my current phone. too old/not powerful enough for gingerbread and locked bootloader so only a poor port of cyanogenmod with an un-customisable kernel. long overdue time for new toys.
hefonthefjords said:
hehe, agreed. i'm just fed up of my current phone. too old/not powerful enough for gingerbread and locked bootloader so only a poor port of cyanogenmod with an un-customisable kernel. long overdue time for new toys.
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Sounds like you have the motorola milestone
totally.
it's like motorola gave me a gold brick and the punched me in the face every day since.
If an O3D is supplied directly from a network, and comes loaded with their bloatware, will this affect the amount of free ram available?
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Ian

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