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spec wise, which is better? tytn, tytn or wing?

Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Atlas

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so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
Thanks

Ray_jai said:
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so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
Thanks
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The atlas is the wing. The "non blue" version of the wing is the herald.

OOO, i see.
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how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks

Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
Thanks
how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas

T-Mobile Says the Processor is just fine.
Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
Thanks
how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The explanation that the T-Mobile officials gives for the Wing's 200mhz processor is that, the Wing dosen't need a 400mHz processor. The Tytn and Tytn 2 both have 3G support hence that requires a faster processor, but T-Mobile dosen't support 3G in first place so the processor power for that is uneccesary.

kweng_ca said:
The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas
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i really don't find it that slow, it works just fine for me. You might have too many things running at the same time or too many Start up items.

i did put the best first and
a faster cpu is always better
for video games and general performance
though kaiser is missing a driver so
it got some performance issues

Ray_jai said:
Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks
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There is no "best" one. If you want power then Tytn 2 is the best one. If you want looks and a slim phone then the Wing is. The Tilt(Tytn 2 in America) is also heaver than the wing. So you have a choice of look and feel v/s power. Also if you are planning to use T-Mobile, then some of the Tytn 2's features are useless, same with the first Tytn.

the wing prob also last longer on a charge
but specwise is prob a pure hardware feature and power question more of an usability or requirement question

Rudegar said:
the wing prob also last longer on a charge
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possibly, since a less powerfull processor requires less battery to run.

OMG... what is this new phone Glofish DX900?

http://www.glofiish.com/news.asp?lang=3&page=1&id=81
OMG.... if it is as it say in the news, I want one
Anyone know anyting about this new phone?

why? Nothing revolutionary there ...... maybe great but the description is a bit vague to tell.

I know nothing.. Would like to know more

^^ here you go, check out this link.

It certainly looks like a decent spec BUT previous phones from GloFish have had problems with their ROM and practically zero cutomer support, try using a T-Mobile Sim card in one last years units and it won't work for a data connection - their customer support knew about the fault but did nothing to fix the issue. Its not something I would risk a few hundred quid on to be honest - Mike

Thanks for the link master athlon.....
Samsung S3C6400 533 MHz Processor... hummm... anyone knows if this processor has 3D inside like the Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor?!?!?!?

mikealder said:
GloFish have had problems with their ROM
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I have a prothet with WM6.1 not thank to HTC...
mikealder said:
practically zero customer support
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Compared to what? HTC kraiser costumer suporte? no 3D drivers? loooooool

ff2005 said:
Compared to what? HTC kraiser costumer suporte? no 3D drivers? loooooool
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Yeah, people do seem to beat up on E-Ten, even though I've never heard of an HTC phone working the way it should out of the box. I'm really excited about this phone, the specs are comparable to the Diamond, plus dual SIMs, plus a microSD slot, plus a real battery.
ff2005 said:
Thanks for the link master athlon.....
Samsung S3C6400 533 MHz Processor... hummm... anyone knows if this processor has 3D inside like the Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor?!?!?!?
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I looked it up here, and it doesn't say anything about 3D acceleration. It does support 2D acceleration, though.

Any one who has this phone. Comments on the performance please.

I wish HTC would produce a device with DVB-T, would make a nice pocket tv device

Knightro said:
Any one who has this phone. Comments on the performance please.
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It's very fast and responsive, uses SPB Mobile Shell like a lot of Glofiish devices. Alas, no accelerated 3D support but the Samsung processor DOES have accelerated 2D support.
VGA screen is crisp and clear, and dual SIM function is really good.

they are brave enough to come out with a unique dual sim WM device and I love it!
The ROM upgrade had been done only once? Guess its bec they are being bought by Acer so there's a little company adjustment of personnel or the like

Hi all,
I have a simple question: does it have a "standard" 3.5mm audio jack or a smaller 2.5mm one?
Thanks,
Davide

Says here that it's a 2.5mm jack.

HTC Touch Pro 2 with old Processor?!

Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.

Well, I understand your annoyance with an old processor, and although I'm definitely getting the TP2 if I can, I would certainly prefer a faster clock speed, maybe 628 mHz or higher. What I don't understand is where you are getting the chip measurements. Are you refering to this spec's page?
Dave

Hi,
yes, your refering spec's website is right. PDADB has auso the same spec. I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor. :-( I hope this is a misstake on the website.

chrigiboy said:
...I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor...
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You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.

SomethingWicked said:
You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.
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I do hope you are wrong, because if you are not I will keep waiting for the next phone to come out and never upgrade my phone until year 2050...

For me it is the same too. I won't even take a glance at any phone with only 624MHz on it. I need something faster. I have an HTC Universal (524MHz), and I think that was slow after loading all my applications. The same goes with my HTC Advantage X7510 (624MHz). An open application runs fine, but you will notice how slow a QUALCOMM processor is upon opening the application.
I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.

... the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01...
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wow! this phone looks beautiful. any1 knows the price already?

I dont think they will do any change in next 8-12 months after the release on TP2 which clearly targeted for bussiness user (Email,calls, battery live) Anyhow I do think the next Touch HD will be in the level of Toshiba G01 and targeted mainly on multimedia (games,movies etc.)

cktlcmd said:
I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.
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It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...

owziee said:
It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...
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When you say HTC T-Mobile G1, are you referring to ANDROID OS? That alone is a big difference. Unfortunately, I like Windows Mobile better at the moment for an all around OS with a wide variety of free and 3rd party applications.
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department. But looking at Xperia videos, it is still slow, especially at opening and starting applications. I bet it will even be slower upon performing multi-task applications running in the background.
I read at Brighthand that the new HTC THOTH will also have a Qualcomm processor but it would be a 1GHz processor. So I guess, we will see by next year how HTC will use these powerful processors, or maybe they will cripple it in some way. They always find something to screw-up. So I guess we will have to wait.

cktlcmd said:
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department.
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I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.

owziee said:
I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.
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No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.

chrigiboy said:
Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.
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Hey, the Touch Pro uses a cdma msm7501a cpu which was made last year.
The Touch Pro 2 uses a msm7600 cdma cpu from 2007.
The TP uses a newer cpu than the atp2.

cktlcmd said:
No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.
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The Sony Xperia is based on the same cpu as the Touch Pro. Look it up in wikipedia.

Nexus One ROM Development Request

It would be really nice to have some devs working on a Nexus One ROM. That phone is really nice. There is already a custom ROM so i guess we can start from there and just modifying the hell out of it to make it fit on the HERO[CDMA].

Link(s)
Here is a link to the first Nexus One ROM... By: MODACO!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614186
Here is the link to the Nexus One forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=556

Great thread to start. I would like to see the nexus rom on the hero. I like those live wallpapers. Maybe one day we could have a live wallpaper based on the weather like the HD2.

david279 said:
Great thread to start. I would like to see the nexus rom on the hero. I like those live wallpapers. Maybe one day we could have a live wallpaper based on the weather like the HD2.
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You do know the Hero has a 512MHz CPU, while the Nexus One & the HD2 have a 1GHz Snapdragon. The Hero only has 256mb of RAM, while the Nexus ONe & HD2 have 512mb of RAM. also the Nexus One's GPU is leaps & bounds more powerful than the one in the Hero. So the likelihood of the Hero getting live wallpapers & actually basic functionality at the same time is slim to none.

gu1dry said:
You do know the Hero has a 512MHz CPU, while the Nexus One & the HD2 have a 1GHz Snapdragon. The Hero only has 256mb of RAM, while the Nexus ONe & HD2 have 512mb of RAM. also the Nexus One's GPU is leaps & bounds more powerful than the one in the Hero. So the likelihood of the Hero getting live wallpapers & actually basic functionality at the same time is slim to none.
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QFT: Remember the Hero had the animated widgets removed from sense because of the lag the animations created. Animated wallpaper and such, while possible doesn't seem very practical for the time being on our devices.

gu1dry said:
You do know the Hero has a 512MHz CPU, while the Nexus One & the HD2 have a 1GHz Snapdragon. The Hero only has 256mb of RAM, while the Nexus ONe & HD2 have 512mb of RAM. also the Nexus One's GPU is leaps & bounds more powerful than the one in the Hero. So the likelihood of the Hero getting live wallpapers & actually basic functionality at the same time is slim to none.
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Actually, the Hero has 288MB ram but who's counting
Seriously, before we get this we need a working .29 kernel otherwise we wouldnt be able to get the damn thing to boot. And if we did we would have the same trouble as we are having with 2.0 (camera issues, sync issues, etc). We will get to the fun stuff guys. Trust me. But before we focus on this stuff let's let the devs do the hard work and however we can help, let's help. Once we get the kernel then we get to the fun stuff.
Also, as for the CPU, it is *theoretically* possible to overclock this processor. The Dream was underclocked to 384Mhz and it ran a lot faster when overclocked to the standard 528Mhz. If we could actually push this thing to 768Mhz it could be really nice but like I said. That's theoretical. And we still have the GPU issue as well.

And the HD2 doesn't have 512 megs of RAM if I remember correctly. I think it only has about half that, but same processor is right.

deadonarivalry said:
And the HD2 doesn't have 512 megs of RAM if I remember correctly. I think it only has about half that, but same processor is right.
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It has 488mb of RAM to be precise.

Not that I know half as much as you guys do, but when I had my touch pro 2 I had a custom windows 6.5 rom that was ported from the HD2 with the same live wallpapers based on the weather. For example when the weather widget displayed cloudy weather clouds would move across the screen. I remember reading that the touchpro 2 has a qualcomm 528 mhz processor like that in our heros. The tp2 had no lag at all and the animations were quick and detailed so I am just having a hard time seeing why the hero cant handle this, is it a difference with the way android and win mobile handle this type of stuff?

HTC HD 3..!!!

Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html

It's a fake.
The announced SnapDragon is the dual core version if I'm not wrong.
It's just a dream concept

But many websites are confirming it..!!!

heartsurfer008 said:
But many websites are confirming it..!!!
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for instance?
plus the specs are from here!!!

woow , good!

this is fail =/

Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !

danielhere said:
Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !
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If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!

heartsurfer008 said:
If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!
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I am afraid he is right.
New WP7 reminds me of crappy iPhone interface.
Instead of getting more features and opportunities they're copying Apple style.
Hopefully with WP7.3 we will get copy and paste and with 7.4 maybe multiasking.
I will go for Android when I will change my HD2.

heartsurfer008 said:
Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html
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The first item on the list says "1.5 GB Qualcomm Snapdragon.."
ZOMG!!11!! A PHONE PROCESSOR WITH A GIG AND A HALF OF COMPUTING POWER
..what? Does that make sense to you? No. Use your head next time, man

phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility

domineus said:
phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility
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I think the point was it says GB not ghz
Edit: Also if it was an official "document" or whatever it would say "Windows Phone Series 7" or whatever the official name is, not "Windows Mobile 7"

Those specs are obviously fake...1200x800 is not a supported resolution.

I think it's a fake ... but I hope so much that is true!
If the HD3 will keep the promises .. for me it will be the first PDA without the physical keyboard!
PS: Just this HD3 can make me leave my Touch Pro 2!

Seems like a rumor for now...but it could show up in the Fall.

I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.

chambo622 said:
I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.
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It's possible that the forthcoming HTC Obsession will actually be a merger between the HD and Diamond product lines - in other words that there won't be a direct successor to the HD2 at all.
And yes, the "HD3 specs" posted earlier are a very obvious fake. We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x480; we also know that no WP7S device will be able to use a removable memory card. I really wish people would stop creating threads about these "specs" - there must have been nearly a dozen different threads about them, now. They don't get any less fake for being posted multiple times.

Well have been using HD2 for a while & was just curious, so just started this thread..!!!
Hope we get WM7 or Android sooner on HD2..!!!

Shasarak said:
We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x4800;
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800x4800 ? Wow, that's one hell of a resolution

Since when is processor speed measured in GB? And wow they gone really far for 1 generation. from DVD qualitity to 1080p.
Also everybody is talking about HD3. Where is TP3? I want to see some new HTC models with HW KB.
Also i wish that HTC would make some tegra models instead of qualcomm. Maybe then they will provide better drivers.