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FLASHPLAYER 10 for smartphone!

may s.o has already red this is coming until midle of 2009 it should be here final.
its made for "highend sp" but in cnet.com it has been said that 16mb of ram and 200mhz would be needed.
this flash 10 is optimatet for arm processors. is the vox processor a arm processor(dunno!).
may you findnews on this

oh wow from 7 to 10?
maybe now we can watch straight up youtube videos?

it is said so..
i think we might need an plugion for pie. but lets ahve a wait and see

Well, actually from 0 to 10. Flash 7 is only for Professional devices (and you can't really count Flash Lite...). And yes, the processor of the Vox uses the ARM architecture!

frauhottelmann said:
Well, actually from 0 to 10. Flash 7 is only for Professional devices (and you can't really count Flash Lite...). And yes, the processor of the Vox uses the ARM architecture!
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i hope it will come realy for smartphones

Well, mid-2009 isn't going to be interesting for me, since I will buy a WinMo Prof. device then...

frauhottelmann said:
Well, mid-2009 isn't going to be interesting for me, since I will buy a WinMo Prof. device then...
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What would be your preferences for buying one?

Well, I haven't decided yet. I need to get my hands on the Touch HD and see how big it is. But right now, I am probably going to get a Touch Pro. The full keyboard is something I don't want to miss!!!

HTC Touch Pro 2 with old Processor?!

Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.

Well, I understand your annoyance with an old processor, and although I'm definitely getting the TP2 if I can, I would certainly prefer a faster clock speed, maybe 628 mHz or higher. What I don't understand is where you are getting the chip measurements. Are you refering to this spec's page?
Dave

Hi,
yes, your refering spec's website is right. PDADB has auso the same spec. I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor. :-( I hope this is a misstake on the website.

chrigiboy said:
...I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor...
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You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.

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You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.
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I do hope you are wrong, because if you are not I will keep waiting for the next phone to come out and never upgrade my phone until year 2050...

For me it is the same too. I won't even take a glance at any phone with only 624MHz on it. I need something faster. I have an HTC Universal (524MHz), and I think that was slow after loading all my applications. The same goes with my HTC Advantage X7510 (624MHz). An open application runs fine, but you will notice how slow a QUALCOMM processor is upon opening the application.
I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.

... the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01...
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wow! this phone looks beautiful. any1 knows the price already?

I dont think they will do any change in next 8-12 months after the release on TP2 which clearly targeted for bussiness user (Email,calls, battery live) Anyhow I do think the next Touch HD will be in the level of Toshiba G01 and targeted mainly on multimedia (games,movies etc.)

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I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.
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It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...

owziee said:
It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...
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When you say HTC T-Mobile G1, are you referring to ANDROID OS? That alone is a big difference. Unfortunately, I like Windows Mobile better at the moment for an all around OS with a wide variety of free and 3rd party applications.
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department. But looking at Xperia videos, it is still slow, especially at opening and starting applications. I bet it will even be slower upon performing multi-task applications running in the background.
I read at Brighthand that the new HTC THOTH will also have a Qualcomm processor but it would be a 1GHz processor. So I guess, we will see by next year how HTC will use these powerful processors, or maybe they will cripple it in some way. They always find something to screw-up. So I guess we will have to wait.

cktlcmd said:
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department.
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I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.

owziee said:
I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.
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No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.

chrigiboy said:
Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.
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Hey, the Touch Pro uses a cdma msm7501a cpu which was made last year.
The Touch Pro 2 uses a msm7600 cdma cpu from 2007.
The TP uses a newer cpu than the atp2.

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No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.
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The Sony Xperia is based on the same cpu as the Touch Pro. Look it up in wikipedia.

Samsung Omnia Pro!!!!

A device has now been tested www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-review-378.php
What are your thoughts? Is this a match for the TP2?
I hate to say it, but im swayed by this device to move away from HTC until they bring the next touch/keyboard device (TP3?)

I still prefer TP2!
The only point I can see is not better is in processor, but I´ll wait patiently to see the 09-10 HTC new models!

ooh i dont know that seems prettty nice.... but since its probably not coming to tmobile here in the us i think i have no choice but to go iwth the touch pro 2, it will probably go to Verizon cause they where the only one to get the last omnia

A match? To be honest, I'm not seeing how the Touch Pro 2 is supposed to be better or even equal to a phone that has an AMOLED screen and 800Mhz Cortex A8 processor. The B7610 even beats the TP2 in little things like camera and ROM storage amount.

steve7702 said:
A device has now been tested www.gsmarena.com/samsung_b7610_omniapro-review-378.php
What are your thoughts? Is this a match for the TP2?
I hate to say it, but im swayed by this device to move away from HTC until they bring the next touch/keyboard device (TP3?)
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That's old news... I was not impressed.

Im so impatient, I dont think I can wait til the next version of the Touch Pro is available. The TP2 has only just been released and therefore its probably going to be another 12 months.
The fact the Samsung is lighter, better screen, camera (inc flash), I have to admit im tempted

.... and you have Samsung build quality which is, in my experience, awesome..... unlike my experience of HTC's which is frankly, awefull.
You will be able to get many cooked roms over at omnia.modaco.com and you will get just as much support from them and here when combined.
i'm gutted I bought my Acer m900 only to THEN find out about the Omnia Pro (the acers great but ....)

poetryrocksalot said:
That's old news... I was not impressed.
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It was dated "GSMArena team, 20 July 2009. " .... i'd hardly call that old!

I used to have a Touch HD and video performance was a letdown. Don't get me wrong the HD is a magnificent device, but not being able to watch videos as they should be on this great screen was dissapointing. I tried many different encoders, like doctor divx, nero recode and the encoder made for this device but none of them gave me satisfiyng results. Especially considering that I had to REENCODE a complete movie, this process could easily take several hours. Many tweaks drivers etc never gave me full satisfaction. I made tons of little clips to test the best possible performance for the least amount of encoding time and my findigs were that my best option was to reencode with Nero at a maximum resolution of 524 and max bitrate of 700 and selecting Quicktime compatibility for the MPEG ASP. So I ended up with tons of clips, each time trying wich is the best. The following things were particularly frustrating.
- No out of the box divx/xvid support
- playback of divx/xvid with coreplayer or any other 3rd party player was slow and laggy
- No standard MPEG 4 ASP support, for example videos recorded on other devices like Nokia's wouldn't play. Also many programs would create incompatible mp4 files for this device. Later I found out because it doesnt support the Advanced Simple Profile but only the Simple Profile. (Quicktime compatible)
- No standard MPEG 4 AVC support, as the point above the only way to make mp4 video work on this device was to use the encoder program wich was very very very slow. (on my pc at least) Files created with nero or xvid or any other VC-1 encoder would fail to play on this device.
- Even videos created with the special encoder would play fine, but seeking and switching from fullscreen to portrait etc was always lagging.
NOW : I bought a Samsung Omnia PRO B7610 and man it's a world of difference. Seriously this device is awesome for video playback. Smooth playback, fast mode switching, fast seeking forward. I mean everything wich was wrong with the HD is right with this device. I hadn't deleted my bunch of test clips for the HD and this device plays nearly all of them without a problem. And the best part is, I don't have to reencode anything anymore. Every divx/xvid video I tried played flawlessly. Lost episodes downloaded from the web at 624 resolution look perfect on the Amoled Screen, and play perfectly smooth. Well I am certainly satisfied with this device.

samsung b7610
where did you get this deveice from , i've been waiting for it for a long time. does anyone have any idea about a UK release date. i've been scouring the internet and can't find a thing.

I got it online from pdashop / Coolblue. Price for just the phone without contract was 468 euros. You can probably find it cheaper online, but I was prepared to give a little more to get my hands on this a soon as possible.

tuntang said:
where did you get this deveice from , i've been waiting for it for a long time. does anyone have any idea about a UK release date. i've been scouring the internet and can't find a thing.
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It appears not to be in the UK until 7th Oct. clove.co.uk have it and also Play.com both about £399 inc VAT

steve7702 said:
It appears not to be in the UK until 7th Oct. clove.co.uk have it and also Play.com both about £399 inc VAT
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I love all this new found competition and new companies entering the Winmob market, prices of high end devices are tumbling!

maryjohn said:
Hey all..
I get whole briefly details of Samsung Omnia Pro, hey i m agree it's processor is not much more better compare to HTC, but yet i like samsung due to it's big feature screen resolution..
i like most it screen size as well as sound quality and operating system.. hey it's deserve to 9 point out of 10.
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What do you mean its a 272mhz difference on cpu not much but on a phone at this time it is a significant difference.

sdlopez83 said:
What do you mean its a 272mhz difference on cpu not much but on a phone at this time it is a significant difference.
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MHz mith and people who know nothing about processor design, gota love it.
google mhz, ghz, processor design and learn. You can NOT compare simple MHZ.

Samsung: Better cpu, Better camera, no tilt screen (a plus for me)
I think I would still prefer the HTC Touch Pro until this get´s cheaper .

now i've got the new Samsung Omnia Pro GT-B7610
Can anybody tell me when the new WM 6.5 will be available for that phone?

If only it had ATT 3g capability, I'd be on it like a flea on a dog...

why not have the guys over at modaco cook up a full fledged HTC rom with manila 2.5/2.6 and other HTC goodies instead of the samsung apps??
i mean all the HTC goodies in a 800MHZ CPU with a dedicated GFX accelerator and a AMOLED screen = PERFECT

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why not have the guys over at modaco cook up a full fledged HTC rom with manila 2.5/2.6 and other HTC goodies instead of the samsung apps??
i mean all the HTC goodies in a 800MHZ CPU with a dedicated GFX accelerator and a AMOLED screen = PERFECT
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in the words of my favourite film "Chill Winston"
They will, very soon I would imagine. Modaco has been the major source of Omnia I900 roms and I have no doubt it will be so for the new Omnia's.

Apad M70003 MIDI

Hi all. Just finished ordering this tablet that is currently running cupcake. Would love to root it and install a custom ROM. Any info on how I can achieve this?
Thanks in advance

offtopic... does the apad run any good? is it smooth?

Why is it off topic. It is a tablet that runs android. Do not have it yet so can't comment on how good or bad it runs.

i was asking an off topic question (i.e. not related to your question). guess i phrased my sentence wrongly. do post here on how well this device seems to perform.

I will. Thanks for your intrest.

You should of waited for the Notion's ADAM

I only paid $100.00 US for my tablet. This one is considerably more.

manfly9884 said:
I only paid $100.00 US for my tablet. This one is considerably more.
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hey could you pm me the site where you purchased it from?

could you update your main post with the specs that you ordered from? Apparently there are Apad clones with crappy processors instead of the rockchip processors

Dealextreme has it for cheap

dealextreme is the crap version. the proper apad is the one with rockchip in it. and i found out that the cheapest apad with rockchip is ~150usd

i have one of those too.
with the rockchip which actually is not to bad of a processor. nowhere near the A4 but ok to work with.
it's an ARM derivative and consists of a cpu and dsp(gpu).
i would also like to know if anybody has played with it yet.
i followed the android instructions of building a development envirnment and have the tablet actually show up in eclipse but where to go from here?
sorry for threadjacking a bit
i would first of all like to be able to upgrade android. if possible 2.2 or at least to 1.6.
the device has the upgrade locked.
the are also language option conflicts were suggestive text and some keyboard keys still show up in (i guess) Chinese.

It'll most likely be impossible to upgrade the apad to 2.1/2.2 as rockchip dsp isn't actually a gpu, its a video processor for videos only.
on another note i have decided to pass up on the apad as it doesn't seem that "future-proof" most likely will get this http://www.wiipad.us/product.php?id_product=11 unless better options come out in the next 1 month or so

does android 2.x require a specialized dedicated gpu?
the dsp is essentially a gpu, it is capable of playing 720p video.
it should be plenty for android 2.x to get around
so i can move files from the device to the pc.
i copied the data and system folder.
what to do now?

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It'll most likely be impossible to upgrade the apad to 2.1/2.2 as rockchip dsp isn't actually a gpu, its a video processor for videos only.
on another note i have decided to pass up on the apad as it doesn't seem that "future-proof" most likely will get this http://www.wiipad.us/product.php?id_product=11 unless better options come out in the next 1 month or so
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The wiipad seems to be a very nice tablet. But till they receive a proper review, for the money, I'll stick to my Apad.

manfly9884 said:
The wiipad seems to be a very nice tablet. But till they receive a proper review, for the money, I'll stick to my Apad.
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i like the look of the notion ink adam, i mean dual core processor

[email protected] said:
does android 2.x require a specialized dedicated gpu?
the dsp is essentially a gpu, it is capable of playing 720p video.
it should be plenty for android 2.x to get around
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Yeah but it decodes videos only, a gpu actually pumps out the graphics which is an intergral part of 2.1 onwards (also in the rockchip's specs i saw somewhere this chip does not support 2.1) The wiipad neno has a cortex a8 core which is similar to the ipad's processor so it is running on 2.1.
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i like the look of the notion ink adam, i mean dual core processor
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yeah notion ink is awesome but it's been delayed so long that it is not worth much with the impending competition. (unless they make it unbelievably cheaper)

ok i see
any hope for 1.6 at least? maybe 2.0?

yeah notion ink is awesome but it's been delayed so long that it is not worth much with the impending competition. (unless they make it unbelievably cheaper)
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But I just read on engadget its still expected in q3 and that's about the time I'm gonna be looking to buy one it could be perfect.
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ive been digging around at Apads for weeks.. and i havent really found one i was impressed with.. i thought about going with just something to play with a lil bit and get the EKEN m001 or w.e modle it is.. but i just couldnt get it at a price id be willing to shell out and be ok with.. but this wiipad.. with android 2.1 deff has my attention especially wit a 1ghz processor.. and with it having a 16gig nand flash at a price of 267.19 i will shell out the money.. cuz thats exactly what i want.. but i to will wait for more reviews on the product.. but please post what you think about the one you orderd OP cuz i am intrested in that one as well.. and can you PM me the site you got it from for 100$?? please and thank you.. and im very happy to see these Apads (android tablets) showing up in the forum!! i cant wait for a few devs to jump on board imagine the roms and custom stuff i feel like a kid ina candy store already

Android 4.0 for a Lg optimus 3D

Hey people does anyone know if android 4.0 will be available for the Lg optimus 3D when it comes out around December

Virus711 said:
Hey people does anyone know if android 4.0 will be available for the Lg optimus 3D when it comes out around December
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No........................

Virus711 said:
Hey people does anyone know if android 4.0 will be available for the Lg optimus 3D when it comes out around December
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almost had heartattack reading topic name :S
we dont have 2.3.3, and you are dreaming about 4.0?

Well let me read the cards...errrr
Some one is flying high. Anyways I can't see why not with a little magic of the dev community.
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i'm shire it will come also for o3d by lg or through the great developers in this forum.
but why do you what it already? maybe it's crap? i doubt it but maybe....
and one of the golden rules:
be patient, good things need their time

I wouldn't be surprised if 4.0 won't run on this phone due to the ram, even if it does its going to be well into next year before we get it, I would be surprised if we have it for next summer judging how far behind LG are now, this phone and the Optimus X2 should have launched with Gingerbread.

if cyanogen support this device, there will be 4.0 for us

the already support this device

typhex said:
if cyanogen support this device, there will be 4.0 for us
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but 3D will be useless without the drivers for the cameras and the screen

mmace said:
but 3D will be useless without the drivers for the cameras and the screen
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True but all the S3D core code it open to the devs thanks to TI as I understand it.
Also it's not even sure it's called 4.0, they haven't set a version number have they? and the number is just a indicator, the jump from 2.3 will be stuff like optimization in the system for dual core, and people still talking about too little RAM is just poppycock.
Most likely performance for the O3D will be better with Ice Cream Sandwich, might even beat all other phones as it's (so far) the only one with dual RAM and dual Channels which keeps the dual-core CPU from being bottlenecked by the rest of the system.

I have to admit, this talk of "ooooh it might not run version xx.yy of Android" or "ooooh what if the new uber fantastic app doesn't work because it ONLY has 512MB RAM" makes me laugh.
Why? Well lets look at what the problems have been in the past:
OS Partition is too small:
This was a problem when the OS was written to fit inside the small flash built-in to the CPU package. As the OS has gotten bigger this had to be solved one way or another. I'm not sure of the specifics, but I think its enough to say this is solved now.
Not enough RAM:
Fitting an advanced OS into 64MB or even 256MB of RAM is tricky, especially when the core OS is based on code from PCs with a lot more RAM than that and the luxury of a swap partition.
However 512MB was the turning point on PC where RAM became less of an issue and in the right configuration you could live without swap. So logically this should hold true, probably moreso, for Android. Because Android until recently was already running in 128MB/256MB without the advantage of swap space.
No Drivers:
Many are open source, we are also working with hardware a lot more standardised than it once was.
I can see from a glance that there are a lot of similarities between my N900 at the hardware level and the O3D. If you are dealing with devices that are basically upgrades of old hardware designs, drivers are a lot easier to deal with - especially if they are open source.
Lack of GPU or certain CPU instructions:
Many older devices could not handle newer Android because they lacked a proper GPU or the CPU did not have the right instructions. This is similar to what happened on PC for a while, when multimedia suddenly became big. Like on the PC once all these multimedia instructions became commonplace it was no longer really an issue. I believe we are at the same place now with high-end Android hardware.
So I really would be surprised to find a newer version of Android outright not be able to run on the O3D, for quite some time.