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What is all the obsession over dual core phones?

I have to ask: Why does everyone want a dual core phone which cant even currently be used?
I say it cant be used because dual core processors cant be used on Android 2.3 Gingerbread/Linux kernel 2.6.35, there is only multi-core processor support in A3H/L2.6.36 (only avaliable (officially) on tablets). We will see problably support in in "A4I"/"L3.6.37" for both phones and tablets.
So whats everyones obsession? The only thing you are problably gaining is a SLIGHT speed boost (not even close when a kernal that supports it is released) and more battery drain.
On a counterside this could bring good marketing to Google: They release "A4I", current dual core phones get a HUGE speed boost and everyone praises Google. Could work good for them.

Interesting, I never knew Gingerbread couldn't support dual cores on phones. Good info, I guess I'll keep my Evo for another year.

It's pretty easy to compile the kernel to use multi core processors. The current one may not, but hold your judgement until it's actually released.

crazy25000 said:
It's pretty easy to compile the kernel to use multi core processors. The current one may not, but hold your judgement until it's actually released.
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So true............. Currently 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of users AND developers of applications can and are willing to complie a custom kernel not used by the rest and use/make multi core supported applications with its multi core supported kernel.

I guess progress has to begin somewhere?

i don't think i'll ever need / want a dual core phone for my daily rutine, my SGS is perfect for me, what more could you need from a phone? don't think they'll be able to fit jet packs on them any time soon...

riahc3 said:
So true............. Currently 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of users AND developers of applications can and are willing to complie a custom kernel not used by the rest and use/make multi core supported applications with its multi core supported kernel.
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What I'm saying is the kernel can easily be compiled by Google or Samsung and used as the stock kernel on the GSII.

maranello69 said:
i don't think i'll ever need / want a dual core phone for my daily rutine, my SGS is perfect for me, what more could you need from a phone? don't think they'll be able to fit jet packs on them any time soon...
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Yeah its logical to think like that but 3 years ago who thought you need phone with such big screen and processor/RAM almost match PC speed?
As someone said somewhere they have to start but interesting thought by thread creator

ksavai said:
Yeah its logical to think like that but 3 years ago who thought you need phone with such big screen and processor/RAM almost match PC speed?
As someone said somewhere they have to start but interesting thought by thread creator
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Honestly those arent needs either. But as of right now the only purpose of a dual core phone is to brag.

[Q] LG optimus 3d (RAM 512 = too little?)

I have seen other phones that are dual core too, i.e the Evo 3d, motorola atrix, but with 1gb ram. When it comes to gaming, and not just counting the 3d aspect of it. Will the 512 mb of ram be enough to run even upcoming games. Can this device stand newer games that other phones like the htc evo 3d might have no problem handling? Share some thoughts on this. thnx

omfg AGAIN???? :/
512mb are ABSOLUTELY enough!!!
just look at this review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEE65bNN8mc&feature=player_embedded
8 apps open and phone still fast

While the dual channel technology might bring some small performance benefits, 512MB will remain 512MB.
Current games should be no problem at all, but upcoming games (utilizing the unreal or unity engine for example) will definitely step up in terms of texture amount+resolution and general amount of data (see recent news of Shadowgun for example).
This could become a disadvantage at a certain point, but we´ll have to wait for some hard numbers when the time will come.
But i´m confident that the optimus 3d can keep up at least for 1 year (until we actually experience noticeable performance disadvantages with more advanced and complex games aimed at the Tegra3 Platform and other upcoming chipsets).

I have experienced some lock up'freezing issues when play the included games in 3D. I rooted my phone, so i dont know if its due to that or if its just due to the fact its a developer phone and the software is not final. I still love this phone, very fast and i get 8mb average dl's on Tmo here in the Bay Area(Hayward).

Could someone who has a pre release O3D unit have a look and see how much free ram is available after start-up please? (i'm an android newbie, not sure if this is possible on LG androids in general, without a specific app?) Just wondering how much ram the system leaves you to use....?
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Ian

i'm confused here...
i was under the impression that the concept here was tri-dual (dual core, dual channel memory, DUAL RAM) resulting in there being 1gb of ram configured as 512mb per core?
is that not what's happening?

It´s supposed to be 256|256 ^^

that's a bit dissappointing then.
however, as has been pointed out, it doesn't seem to affect overall performance much. i can see it being a hinderance to the future longevity o the phone though. a newer-than-gingerbread version of android on the horizon which will undoubtedly demand for higher specs could see this become a problem.

According to the presentation it's supposed to be memory for gpu and memory for system

Has anybody with a pre or final relase O3D managed to find out how much free ram is available after a cold start up please? (i.e no apps/games running, only a task manager) If it's something like 200 - 250mb then that should be ok i guess, HTC seem to think that amount is ok on their sensation, and that started with 768mb..... Sense 3 seems to be a bit of a resource hog, it seems.....
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Ian

i saw in a videopreview,about 340mb free.

nic85 said:
i saw in a videopreview,about 340mb free.
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Thanks for this, if you could provide a link or something i'd be grateful 340mb available is better than i'd hoped for
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Ian

can't find that,but i have this
http://www.batista70phone.com/2011/05/video-recensione-lg-optimus-3d-by-batista70phone/
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300+meg of free ram is loads and there will probbaly be more if you kill off some of the crappy stock services that you might not need, for example google talk.

hefonthefjords said:
300+meg of free ram is loads and there will probbaly be more if you kill off some of the crappy stock services that you might not need, for example google talk.
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nd remember its an old software the latest as we speak is June the 5th so things must be getting better,I need this phone now its getting really tough every day trolling the web for info sad muppets we are well me anyway

cheltenham2004 said:
nd remember its an old software the latest as we speak is June the 5th so things must be getting better,I need this phone now its getting really tough every day trolling the web for info sad muppets we are well me anyway
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if it gets delayed again

hehe, agreed. i'm just fed up of my current phone. too old/not powerful enough for gingerbread and locked bootloader so only a poor port of cyanogenmod with an un-customisable kernel. long overdue time for new toys.

hefonthefjords said:
hehe, agreed. i'm just fed up of my current phone. too old/not powerful enough for gingerbread and locked bootloader so only a poor port of cyanogenmod with an un-customisable kernel. long overdue time for new toys.
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Sounds like you have the motorola milestone

totally.
it's like motorola gave me a gold brick and the punched me in the face every day since.

If an O3D is supplied directly from a network, and comes loaded with their bloatware, will this affect the amount of free ram available?
Thanks
Ian

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[Q] DUAL BOOT??? Q/A's
I am a definite fan of both WP7 and Android both for their social integration and the development and customization abilities. So ive heard alot of poeple talking about the dual boot and most are basically trash talking the idea. But me on the other hand as well as many other poeple would agree that any phone whether it may be WP7 or android, anybody with enough knowledge to be able to unlock and root both would love to be able to enjoy what they want when they want. I mean the soul purpose of development no matter what phone or OS is the ability to push this technology to its limits,going as far as our hardware will go and letting people have what really isnt meant to be, as far as us as cutomers with any service and the limitations they come with. And i know this idea would have many supporters who would love to donate in hopes of one day having the best of both worlds. i have the samsung focus and ive done alot of research on this phone and anybody can look it up that this phone is basiclly the same identical phone as the samsung google nexus s, the only real difference is the OS capabilities that you get with android on the nexus. ive compared both and well hardware, camera mp's and capabilities (well the nexus doesnt have face detection), screen res, and even screen size is the same even made with the same type of glass(gorilla that is at least confirmed by samsung via twitter). My question, if the phone is essentially the same,would it be possible to dual boot the nexus stock 2.3 rom or even any custom that the nexus has or had and maybe even ice cream sandwich like i know the nexus will soon have or if not already have?. But im also keepin in mind that those roms would have to be customized and remade to work around the focuses WP7.5 OS with dual boot.

I like both as well, but the only way you can do this is to buy an HTC hd2.

pmb1903 said:
[Q] DUAL BOOT??? Q/A's
I am a definite fan of both WP7 and Android both for their social integration and the development and customization abilities. So ive heard alot of poeple talking about the dual boot and most are basically trash talking the idea. But me on the other hand as well as many other poeple would agree that any phone whether it may be WP7 or android, anybody with enough knowledge to be able to unlock and root both would love to be able to enjoy what they want when they want. I mean the soul purpose of development no matter what phone or OS is the ability to push this technology to its limits,going as far as our hardware will go and letting people have what really isnt meant to be, as far as us as cutomers with any service and the limitations they come with. And i know this idea would have many supporters who would love to donate in hopes of one day having the best of both worlds. i have the samsung focus and ive done alot of research on this phone and anybody can look it up that this phone is basiclly the same identical phone as the samsung google nexus s, the only real difference is the OS capabilities that you get with android on the nexus. ive compared both and well hardware, camera mp's and capabilities (well the nexus doesnt have face detection), screen res, and even screen size is the same even made with the same type of glass(gorilla that is at least confirmed by samsung via twitter). My question, if the phone is essentially the same,would it be possible to dual boot the nexus stock 2.3 rom or even any custom that the nexus has or had and maybe even ice cream sandwich like i know the nexus will soon have or if not already have?. But im also keepin in mind that those roms would have to be customized and remade to work around the focuses WP7.5 OS with dual boot.
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can you provide at least a proof before you claim that both device are identical? getting spec sheet from the internet is not the same as getting the tech sheet from manufacturers.

of course i know there not completly identical since they were built for 2 totally different operating systems, well i mean they dont have the same brand name of processor but regardless there still 1gz, based on the specs ive seen same phone released one month after eachother just different housing and a curved screen. But i have looked at a bunch of tech review sites and im very fimiliar with custom roms and the rooting process of android as ive done many but i know very little about WP7 besides the fact that i forced the mango update via zune. i mean i know completly how to use the focus,but just not in the extent of chevron,interpop or in depth dev.

and why hd2, is there something in particular about that device or is it just the one that the only dual boot available and was designed for. the focus is a newer phone with a newer OS. Im guessing another dual boot would have to be developed because there 2 different phones or is it an HTC thing and the sense UI mixed with win mobile that only allows that certain dual boot capability.

The Focus and Nexus aren't the same
pmb1903 said:
and why hd2, is there something in particular about that device or is it just the one that the only dual boot available and was designed for. the focus is a newer phone with a newer OS. Im guessing another dual boot would have to be developed because there 2 different phones or is it an HTC thing and the sense UI mixed with win mobile that only allows that certain dual boot capability.
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The HD2 is a powerful device. The HD7 is a slight redesign of it. The Evo 4G and Inspire 4G are a very slight redesign of it. I think the HD2 also had an unlocked boot loader, so it can be hacked to run nearly any OS (Android, MeeGo, Ubuntu, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, and I even saw one with Windows 95)
pmb1903 said:
[Q] DUAL BOOT??? Q/A's
I am a definite fan of both WP7 and Android both for their social integration and the development and customization abilities. So ive heard alot of poeple talking about the dual boot and most are basically trash talking the idea. But me on the other hand as well as many other poeple would agree that any phone whether it may be WP7 or android, anybody with enough knowledge to be able to unlock and root both would love to be able to enjoy what they want when they want. I mean the soul purpose of development no matter what phone or OS is the ability to push this technology to its limits,going as far as our hardware will go and letting people have what really isnt meant to be, as far as us as cutomers with any service and the limitations they come with. And i know this idea would have many supporters who would love to donate in hopes of one day having the best of both worlds. i have the samsung focus and ive done alot of research on this phone and anybody can look it up that this phone is basiclly the same identical phone as the samsung google nexus s, the only real difference is the OS capabilities that you get with android on the nexus. ive compared both and well hardware, camera mp's and capabilities (well the nexus doesnt have face detection), screen res, and even screen size is the same even made with the same type of glass(gorilla that is at least confirmed by samsung via twitter). My question, if the phone is essentially the same,would it be possible to dual boot the nexus stock 2.3 rom or even any custom that the nexus has or had and maybe even ice cream sandwich like i know the nexus will soon have or if not already have?. But im also keepin in mind that those roms would have to be customized and remade to work around the focuses WP7.5 OS with dual boot.
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CPU:
Focus: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
HD2: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
Nexus: 1.2 GHZ Dual Core
Display:
Focus: WVGA (800x480) Super Amoled
HD2: WVGA (800x480) TFT LCD
Nexus: 720P (1280x720) Super Amoled
Screen Size:
Focus: 4.0"
HD2: 4.3"
Nexus: 4.65"
Front Camera:
Focus: None
HD2: None
Nexus: 1.3mp
RAM:
Focus: 512MB
HD2: 448MB
Nexus: 1024MB
They are definitely not the same phone. Windows Phone only supports WVGA, so it won't even work properly on the Nexus. Windows Phone doesn't even support dual core processors, so if it did work, it would be slow (1 core, 600mhz). The HD2 is more similiar to the Focus then the Nexus is.

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YES. if and only if the phones have
1. identical hardware 100% identical hardware down to the pcb, hardware keys camera models, (delimited by availability of driver)
2. and program loader (to write the os to the internal storage) is available for both os,
3. as well as someone actually splices the bootloaders (both bootloadrs for both os - something like magloader)
4. and both filesystem can exist in a single internal disc and accessed by both OS
5. and drivers for both OS's are readily available.
last but not least
6. someone (with the capacity to understand in manufacturing and programming a consumer device with full know-how in driver writing, coding, file system access bla bla bla owns a jtag writer) actually wants to do it.

pmb1903 said:
and why hd2, is there something in particular about that device or is it just the one that the only dual boot available and was designed for. the focus is a newer phone with a newer OS. Im guessing another dual boot would have to be developed because there 2 different phones or is it an HTC thing and the sense UI mixed with win mobile that only allows that certain dual boot capability.
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hd2 was already windows mobile, and from what I've heard someone happened to get a test release of wp7 so that kind of fell into their lap.
Android is open source, so if there is enough interest it can be done, though with the hd2 there was a lot more to the story...
It is truly a one of a kind device, chances are you won't see any other dual booting phones for wp7 and android

aminy23 said:
The HD2 is a powerful device. The HD7 is a slight redesign of it. The Evo 4G and Inspire 4G are a very slight redesign of it. I think the HD2 also had an unlocked boot loader, so it can be hacked to run nearly any OS (Android, MeeGo, Ubuntu, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, and I even saw one with Windows 95)
CPU:
Focus: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
HD2: 1.0 GHZ Single Core
Nexus: 1.2 GHZ Dual Core
Display:
Focus: WVGA (800x480) Super Amoled
HD2: WVGA (800x480) TFT LCD
Nexus: 720P (1280x720) Super Amoled
Screen Size:
Focus: 4.0"
HD2: 4.3"
Nexus: 4.65"
Front Camera:
Focus: None
HD2: None
Nexus: 1.3mp
RAM:
Focus: 512MB
HD2: 448MB
Nexus: 1024MB
They are definitely not the same phone. Windows Phone only supports WVGA, so it won't even work properly on the Nexus. Windows Phone doesn't even support dual core processors, so if it did work, it would be slow (1 core, 600mhz). The HD2 is more similiar to the Focus then the Nexus is.
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He was comparing the Focus with Nexus S, not Galaxy Nexus.

[Q] Why is iPhone still faster than any Android Quad-Core Phone?

Hi,
my friend and I are comparing which Phone is better.. The iOS Phones or the Android Phones.
In my opinion an iPhone is not a real Smartphone because you can't really do nothing with it..
There is just a damn Appdrawer without a damn Home screen.
Just Apps and some other notification stuff.
An Android Phone has almost everything that you need. You can even Update a Ps3 system with just an Android Phone.
You can build your own system and run your Rom with your taste.
But why the hell has the iPhone 5 still compared to HTC One X or Sony Xperia Z a better Benchmark result?
I mean the iPhone got a Dual core with just 1 Ghz per Core. But it beat a Quad-Core Phone.
For example I got a Sony Xperia S and how you know it has a 1,5Ghz Dual-Core hardware. And STILL the iPhone runs Asphalt 7 or Shadowgun: Deadzone better than the Xperia S
How that can be possible??

xShottaZx said:
Hi,
my friend and I are comparing which Phone is better.. The iOS Phones or the Android Phones.
In my opinion an iPhone is not a real Smartphone because you can't really do nothing with it..
There is just a damn Appdrawer without a damn Home screen.
Just Apps and some other notification stuff.
An Android Phone has almost everything that you need. You can even Update a Ps3 system with just an Android Phone.
You can build your own system and run your Rom with your taste.
But why the hell has the iPhone 5 still compared to HTC One X or Sony Xperia Z a better Benchmark result?
I mean the iPhone got a Dual core with just 1 Ghz per Core. But it beat a Quad-Core Phone.
For example I got a Sony Xperia S and how you know it has a 1,5Ghz Dual-Core hardware. And STILL the iPhone runs Asphalt 7 or Shadowgun: Deadzone better than the Xperia S
How that can be possible??
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To answer the question in title.
Iphones would seem faster because its software is only written for one device.. the Iphone.
When you build the hardware and the software you able to really optimise it for that device.
This would be possible with Android but for a device manufacture would take far to much work at the lower levels of android itself, and they simply do not have the time or resources to do that (After all we do want updates within 6 months of google pushing them).
If you however get a Nexus device built for stock Android you will see what android can do

zacthespack said:
To answer the question in title.
Iphones would seem faster because its software is only written for one device.. the Iphone.
When you build the hardware and the software you able to really optimise it for that device.
This would be possible with Android but for a device manufacture would take far to much work at the lower levels of android itself, and they simply do not have the time or resources to do that (After all we do want updates within 6 months of google pushing them).
If you however get a Nexus device built for stock Android you will see what android can do
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Yes and Java android implementation has a really time spent garbage collector, IOS programs are written over Objective C with just in time memory management.
No garbage collector = faster app

The on-the-surface reasons are a fast and capable CPU and GPU, but mainly the fact that apps have a very limited ability to run in the background. There are more technical reasons, as mentioned above, but that's the gist of it.
iOS's efficiency and performance comes from its heavy software limitations.

Okay, so mainly it has to do with optimizing the hardware with the software right?

xShottaZx said:
Okay, so mainly it has to do with optimizing the hardware with the software right?
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Yes, and like I said, heavily disallowing apps from running in the background.

I bet thats also the reason why macs are seen as such intuitive machines compared to pcs. Windows is made for any pc while mac os is strictly built for mac. :good:

Omega Supreme said:
I bet thats also the reason why macs are seen as such intuitive machines compared to pcs. Windows is made for any pc while mac os is strictly built for mac. :good:
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Macs use the same parts as PC's. It's just that they say, "Alright, these are the parts we're going to use this year. We only need drivers and software compatible with these parts. Anything extra is up to the manufacturers." It's the same thing with Windows, but like you said, just a wider array of devices and parts.
Intuitiveness has nothing to do with hardware and interfacing software; it has everything to do with aesthetics and software design.

Okay thanks for your answers guys

for me, Iphone is only good for old people, who doesnt really care about their gadget, they only use it for show off, without knowing the "true" potential of their phone.
with android, we could squeeze the juice from the phone out untill its screaming, lol, and our device will worth every dime and penny we spent, like many of people only know that they have Intel i7 processor without knowing that their i7 processor can beat up so easily with Overclocked core 2 Quad processors.
just my 2 cents though

There's more to it than benchmarking though. I actually carry and use both devices. My DNA is a good bit faster than my iPhone with some processes. Other things the iPhone is faster with. But as stated above, the apple hardware and software is highly optimized, which is why iPhone users don't see force closes or random reboots except for the occasional rare extreme problem.
They both have their pros and cons, there's a lot of young people also that the iPhone fits better than android.
There's a lot of people in this world that think differently than me. I did not see the dialer or keyboard on my DNA until after it was unlocked and rooted and had a custom rom and kernel overclocked. I didn't realize until later that I didn't even open much on the interface until after I had installed the software I wanted. Lots of people wouldn't want to take an off contract 700 dollar device and blindly void the warranty, but that's all I bought mine for is the hardware and ability to build my rom and interface to fit my needs.
Sent from my DNA... S-Off like a baws

apple not only manufactures its own software, but also hardware, hence it has better control to customize their hardware according to the software or vice versa.

ob7125 said:
apple not only manufactures its own software, but also hardware, hence it has better control to customize their hardware according to the software or vice versa.
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Apple doesn't manufacture anything. Most of their components come from Samsung and other manufacturers like Qualcomm. They work ONLY on the software.

i think you are wrong.
zacthespack said:
To answer the question in title.
Iphones would seem faster because its software is only written for one device.. the Iphone.
When you build the hardware and the software you able to really optimise it for that device.
This would be possible with Android but for a device manufacture would take far to much work at the lower levels of android itself, and they simply do not have the time or resources to do that (After all we do want updates within 6 months of google pushing them).
If you however get a Nexus device built for stock Android you will see what android can do
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i saw the nexus 5 benchmark fight with the iphone 5s, NEXUS 5 can't reach near iphone 5s , actually i don't understand how is this possible and i don't believe that optimization makes iphone to this much faster, when we are looking forward the case of samsung galaxy note 3 and iphone 5s just an optimization can't beat the 8 core and 3Gb ram with 1.3gh 2 core with 1gb ram, may be the precision is the key

[P999 CAN HOPE????]Android 4.4 Support To Devices With As Little As 512MB Of RAM

If you've used Android 4.1 or later on a phone or tablet with 1GB of RAM, you know things can get a little tight in the memory department. That's what makes newer and slightly underpowered devices like the Lenovo Yoga a little disappointing. Google has decided to trim the fat with Android 4.4 in an initiative they've christened "Project Svelte." This isn't a single change, it's a wide range of additions to the Android API and optional hardware configurations designed to make KitKat run smoothly on devices with as little as 512MB of system memory.
According to the new 4.4 developer page, Project Svelte starts with recommendations and options targeted at device manufacturers. Specifically:
Dalvik JIT code cache tuning
kernel samepage merging (KSM)
swap to zRAM
tune out-of-memory levels for processes
set graphics cache sizes
control memory reclaim
When it comes to pure software, core processes have been trimmed to use less memory and protect system memory from hungry apps. Android will also launch concurrent services in sequence instead of all at once to prevent slowdown. Imagine it as cleaning out the Startup folder in Windows, except that it's all happening behind the scenes. Developers also have access to the new ActivityManager.isLowRamDevice API, allowing memory-hogging features to be enabled and disabled as needed. Google will be integrating this feature into its own first-party apps, so even those with more powerful hardware should see at least some benefit.
Project Svelte isn't going to magically make older devices compatible with 4.4 - even Google's own Galaxy Nexus (with 1GB of RAM) isn't getting an official update, likely because of the aging OMAP SoC. But this will hopefully help devices like the original Nexus 7 and Nexus 4, not to mention upcoming low-end phones that will launch with 4.4, to better handle resources as apps become more hardware intensive.

Not happening man lol
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

You shouldn't expect anything from LG, and now that almost all the Devs have given up on the g2x, I too have realized that there is no hope for the g2x.
But although this phone got screwed pretty bad, if it wasn't for this phone I would have never known about the xda community and the joy of rooting, and for that I am grateful.
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

Same here, Knotes. If it wasn't for stock 2.3.4 gingerbread driving me insane with its lag, inconsistency and overall weak performance I would have never stumbled upon XDA and have rooted my phone to make it a somewhat halfway decent device (thanks to the amazing devs we've had) lol.

Sadly, I don't use my G2X anymore, I've gone back to using my Nokia E73/Mode Blackberry clone semi-smart phone which uses the obsolete Symbian OS, doesn't have a touch screen, has a real keypad, and does what I need adequately such as Skype, GPS with maps (I recently used it in Italy for a month), Wifi and phone calls. It has great battery life, very good audio quality, great cell radio range, easily fits in my pocket, is extremely well made and durable ( it fell from the roof on top of the 3rd floor of my house, while I was trimming tree branches, onto a concrete sidewalk and bounced into some bushes and only had a few scratches on the bezel at the top left corner. I do use a currently cheapest available Asus Android 7" tablet, that cost $150 new and runs Android 4.2.2 and it has had 3 updates since I bought it 2 months ago. It gets used when I need an app that runs on Android and to surf the net. I will never buy a new Android phone again and definitely not an LG at all, even used, because of what happened to the G2X.

No no and no g2x is dead period
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Build a new CM11 ROM
Hi there !!! What if someone could actually build one Rom for p999 .... Even Huawei y201 Pro that is working on 512 MB ram has a CM11 based kitkat 4.4.2 rom available. It would be great if someone comes out and do this.:good:

It can be done but nobody can figure out the radio issue so it would be WiFi only. That is what killed this phone.

ROM for P999
Hi !!! This looks real sad. I am using CM 10.1 based on Jellybean 4.1.1 and it looks stable enough and so does the WIFI. Is there any newer version than this that is more stable? I checked the All ROMS thread but the newer ones are all buggy

Darth Tyranius said:
Hi !!! This looks real sad. I am using CM 10.1 based on Jellybean 4.1.1 and it looks stable enough and so does the WIFI. Is there any newer version than this that is more stable? I checked the All ROMS thread but the newer ones are all buggy
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No that's pretty much it. There's a trick you can do to flash p990 roms, I'm not sure how much development they have going on over there. I actually don't have this phone anymore but if you use one of their nvflash utilities you basically can repartition your phone like theirs except for the radio which doesn't work anyway. If you're up for it there's been a few people who have done it. I make no guarantees. Godspeed.

Thanks For the heads up !!! I will head to the Optimus 2x section and see what i can find there ....