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HTC Trinity release soon- my dream PDA

I am definitely gonna wait for this phone. but I am not sure with the Samsung processer, any commons?
http://www.slashphone.com/articles/show_more/71-4993-HTC-2006-Roadmap-Exposed.html?&page=8

fei886 said:
I am definitely gonna wait for this phone. but I am not sure with the Samsung processer, any commons?
http://www.slashphone.com/articles/show_more/71-4993-HTC-2006-Roadmap-Exposed.html?&page=8
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Hermes without a keyboard. Nice.
Look at the TyTyn/Hermes forum for any comments, or to ask questions, about the Samsung processor. I've not seen any complaints about it yet.

I sincerely hope that is a fake/mock up version of the Trinity. I suggest there is a chance given that the first site that image appeared on a cpl months ago is quite dodgey.
I think we would all agree this version of the trinity some months earlier is something to be hoping for:

The only issue with the Samsung is that it is an obsolete processor - it is ARMv4.
Intel have been using v5 for several users and v6 has either come out or soon will do.
This can effect support for some of the best apps. The main one I can think of is iPlay which is orders of magnitude better than any other media player - quality on my 2750 is far better that my v5 ipod. iPlay has legacy code to allow the old ogg / mp3 / wma support - but the later mp4 / aac / gapless support is only available with v5 and later.
Paul.

Then check this out:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5477.html
Btw, 400 MHz Samsung processor is equal to 520 MHz INtel. Intel processors, doesn't matter which ARM they use, they give mediocre performance.

ATT TILT (us) .VS. HTC TYTN 2 (euro)

I am very skeptical about the specs with my unit compared to the TYTN 2 euro device.. I have just purchased the ATT TILT and I am pretty sure that the capabilities may be a lot greater on the European version. The camera on the Tilt as far as, video recording is very bad & the fps is also sluggish. I saw a youtube clip with the HTC TYTN 2 (Euro) & the performance seems a lot better. The guy who made the clip on youtube proceeded to show the speed of his camera while recording and it looked like it was capped @ 30 fps.. Why are both devices around the same prices yet, are not receiving the same performance? I am new to this site & I am new to modifying my device I was wondering if their are performance cabs for my Tilt or If any of you guys have any tweaked out ROMS to help me with performance this would be a big help. Thanks Much - Cheemsz

cheemsz said:
I am very skeptical about the specs with my unit compared to the TYTN 2 euro device.. I have just purchased the ATT TILT and I am pretty sure that the capabilities may be a lot greater on the European version. The camera on the Tilt as far as, video recording is very bad & the fps is also sluggish. I saw a youtube clip with the HTC TYTN 2 (Euro) & the performance seems a lot better. The guy who made the clip on youtube proceeded to show the speed of his camera while recording and it looked like it was capped @ 30 fps.. Why are both devices around the same prices yet, are not receiving the same performance? I am new to this site & I am new to modifying my device I was wondering if their are performance cabs for my Tilt or If any of you guys have any tweaked out ROMS to help me with performance this would be a big help. Thanks Much - Cheemsz
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In term of hardware, there is no different except it missed a front conference camera. You are right, ATT Rom is sucks. You can do a limited tweak, but if you want to have an excellent performance on your Tilt, you can change the ROM. there are so many third party rom that you can find in this kaiser forum. I myself using a Duty's rom.

This vs That, Tweak this, Tweak That!!!!
Read through the Kaiser threads and you will find many comparisons. I even remember seeing Tilt vs iPhone.
Also read this first;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
And then this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314615

See the thing is.. I dont want the Dutty ROM.. its too much like the iPhone interface.. I just want the ATT Tilt interface with a better performance tweak I dont like the Dutty interface it really looks slow and a lot of people I have seen on youtube are using it.

When, and what phone!? Wait for 2010?

Isn't it a dilemma to buy a phone now. Constant fear of a better version coming out within a couple of months...
So far, a lot of eyes are on the n900 and the HD2. I am not too much of a fan of the Droid - and the Xperia 10 - well that still has potential.
But then we are expecting some Nvidia Tegra 2 based mobile phones as well - not only promising very good graphics performance for gaming - but good battery life.
Then there is always, albeit quite far off - the chance apple decide to do a decent update to the 3GS (I mean, last 2 years, have only been updates to the 3G, so its about time they do something great this year right? Especially with the huge amount of new technology available).
I am stumped, I mean, I really don't know what to do. Buy the HD2, or the N900 - or wait it out for the new phones Q1 2010, or wait Q2/3 2010.
I am looking for, a laptop replacement to be honest - something I can do my browsing and so fourth on comfortably - go on websites like mini clip without hassle - maybe have good game playability. Also, would like to use it for things like BBC iplayer etc - good video recording/camera - so in a way - it seems n900 seems suitable - but then what knocks you back is that it only has a 600 mhz processor, compared to the 1GHZ processors being available - as well as a couple of other shortcomings. Every phone seems to be missing some things - but I guess no one can expect a perfect phone . Do you think, if I wait for 6 months, I could be looking at a very decent laptop replacing phone? I am, at the moment, worried about the lack of battery life on these upcoming ones - which I hope will be amended in the near future?
I guess I am quite optimistic about the Nvidia Tegra 2 based phone - in fact I am just excited at what the possibilities will be - coming early 2010 - but at the same time - frustration - as everything seems to be getting updated really quickly...
So, what about you guys?

Welcome to forums
Well you can wait forever for the "perfect" device or decide that you can't wait any longer and buy one from the existent ones.
Also will depend on how much $ you wanna spent.
From the actual ones I can recommend:
The best with hardware keyboard: Touch Pro 2
The best with no hardware kb: HD2
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

Welcome to HTC XDA! As orb said, the HD2 & TP2 are the tops now...see their forum sections for detailed info on them...

What is the opinions of xda forumers on the n900? Potentially it could be huge?
One thing that annoys me about HD2 is - that it is too much makeup on 6.5 - if you get my drift? It is like it is trying to be something its not - while other OS's - seem "proper", I know it all sounds weird - I really don't know how to put it. It is like 6.5 has just had a haircut, beard trim etc to try to compete with the other OS's in terms of UI/touch screen compatibility.

Nokia perhaps is a good device but it has EDIT: maemo on it which I don´t really like...
I´ll recommend you an HTC WM device

orb3000 said:
Nokia perhaps is a good device but it has symbian on it which I don´t really like...
I´ll recommend you an HTC WM device
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n900 has Maemo 5 OS.

lolol
@ ma2k5
You wont get any unbiased info from these chaps....
They cant see past the HTC logo......I think Obr3000 gets paid to post sometimes, just posts.
Hi - I buy HTc
Htc
Htc
lolol - I jest - they are all good guys....
Its got worse here over last few years (no I am joking)
Seriously
Touch Pro 2 is a good device for web browsing when using Opera 9.5+ but it is in NO way a next gen device.
But - Opera 10 is now out and available on S60 V5 platform - which is already running on new hardware on devices from samsung and sony... his is a better browsing experience at the moment, it runs OMAP 3 platform with THAT 600MHZ processor you were talking about.
I have a Touch pro 2 and an OMnia HD - side by side the OMnia is faster and smoother when comparing opera builds. Albeit at a lower resolution.....
My touch pro 2 is not quite as good as I expected it to be.
My last HTC device - HTC advantage - bought what, 3 years ago seems to run at a similar pace to this NEW Touch pro 2. Versatile and good to hack but such shabby build, camera sucks cattle, not enough buttons until you open it....
BUT the support from THIS site means that the device is AMAZING!!!!
If it wasnt for XDA dev - the touch pro 2 would just not be viable for me.
The thing to keep in Mind is that Mhz means nothing nowdays.
My Core2Duo on my PC is 2.4 Ghz per core - but each core will still outperform my old P4 3 ghz chip/// as all the buses that transfer the data are many times faster on newer platforms, plus extra tech makes the comparison even less relevant.
What I am saying here is that the 1ghz qualcomm chipies aint going to worry OMAP 3 chips running at 600 + Mhz, performance will be similar.....
Personally, as an owner of many HTC devices AND Nokia AND Samsung Omnia HD if I had the choice now, I would go with the N900 as its new and I think its going to be a killer mature platform
Then again - if I didnt have this touch pro 2 - that can do virtually EVERYTHING I want it to - spotify last fm web ftp full network access - VNC - remote desktop Logme in, Web video downloader, BBC iplayer - My player supporting Hulu channel 4 on demand,
ZENONIA RPG BLISS!!! + all social networking u can do. - Then more than likely I would go for the touch pro 2 again - then look on enviously at the N900.....
The main thing is that I end up carrying another phone for camera and music as this touch pro seems to destroy connectors that convert to 3.5 and its pointless taking shots with it....
I say get a cheaper old Touch pro 1 for the time being (same Hardware as Touch pro 2 just no huge screen) - second hand for what £150 or something......then get a N900 on contract with data connection when your up for upgrade probably for very little $$
Then you will be in tech bliss

ma2k5 said:
n900 has Maemo 5 OS.
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Thanks for that correction
Anyway my thinking is the same, I´ll stay with WM

The only WM phone I am waiting right now is clamshell type with a powerful processor. I don't care who will make it first, HTC, Sony, Samsung, etc...

HTC HD 3..!!!

Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html

It's a fake.
The announced SnapDragon is the dual core version if I'm not wrong.
It's just a dream concept

But many websites are confirming it..!!!

heartsurfer008 said:
But many websites are confirming it..!!!
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for instance?
plus the specs are from here!!!

woow , good!

this is fail =/

Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !

danielhere said:
Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !
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If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!

heartsurfer008 said:
If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!
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I am afraid he is right.
New WP7 reminds me of crappy iPhone interface.
Instead of getting more features and opportunities they're copying Apple style.
Hopefully with WP7.3 we will get copy and paste and with 7.4 maybe multiasking.
I will go for Android when I will change my HD2.

heartsurfer008 said:
Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html
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The first item on the list says "1.5 GB Qualcomm Snapdragon.."
ZOMG!!11!! A PHONE PROCESSOR WITH A GIG AND A HALF OF COMPUTING POWER
..what? Does that make sense to you? No. Use your head next time, man

phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility

domineus said:
phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility
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I think the point was it says GB not ghz
Edit: Also if it was an official "document" or whatever it would say "Windows Phone Series 7" or whatever the official name is, not "Windows Mobile 7"

Those specs are obviously fake...1200x800 is not a supported resolution.

I think it's a fake ... but I hope so much that is true!
If the HD3 will keep the promises .. for me it will be the first PDA without the physical keyboard!
PS: Just this HD3 can make me leave my Touch Pro 2!

Seems like a rumor for now...but it could show up in the Fall.

I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.

chambo622 said:
I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.
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It's possible that the forthcoming HTC Obsession will actually be a merger between the HD and Diamond product lines - in other words that there won't be a direct successor to the HD2 at all.
And yes, the "HD3 specs" posted earlier are a very obvious fake. We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x480; we also know that no WP7S device will be able to use a removable memory card. I really wish people would stop creating threads about these "specs" - there must have been nearly a dozen different threads about them, now. They don't get any less fake for being posted multiple times.

Well have been using HD2 for a while & was just curious, so just started this thread..!!!
Hope we get WM7 or Android sooner on HD2..!!!

Shasarak said:
We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x4800;
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800x4800 ? Wow, that's one hell of a resolution

Since when is processor speed measured in GB? And wow they gone really far for 1 generation. from DVD qualitity to 1080p.
Also everybody is talking about HD3. Where is TP3? I want to see some new HTC models with HW KB.
Also i wish that HTC would make some tegra models instead of qualcomm. Maybe then they will provide better drivers.

720 p recording on HTC HD2

Can we record videos in 720P if we load android onto HTC HD 2 ?

To be polite NO
No because an android port is not possible yet, ( although it is linux with a pretty UI ), and our hardware cannnot do 720p unfortunately.

okay, but with the hd2's config, shouldnt it be able to do 720p video recording in its current setup itself? at 5 megapixels, the camera is decently equipped to handle 720p hd video, and of course i am guessing, but with a 1 ghz cpu, hd video should be possible?

Yes and no, its in the realm of the possible but currently not much is known about the camera, there have been tweaks in the past (like 7mp panorama shot) that turned out to not really work.
I would like to see it as much as you though, heres to hoping some of the devs want it too

all of us hd2 users have been cheated. HTC now released the same model albeit with 8mp camera, android and 720p video recording in the us. How crappy is that? and its unlikely that htc will be releasing updates for hd2. This sucks, we bought the flagship product of the company, and they dont even have the decency to release tweaks which should have been there in the first place. products that are 30% cheaper and with not even half the config can pull 720p video recording .

tamalsen said:
all of us hd2 users have been cheated. HTC now released the same model albeit with 8mp camera, android and 720p video recording in the us. How crappy is that? and its unlikely that htc will be releasing updates for hd2. This sucks, we bought the flagship product of the company, and they dont even have the decency to release tweaks which should have been there in the first place. products that are 30% cheaper and with not even half the config can pull 720p video recording .
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This one has no UMTS abilities ;-)

i don't understand why HD2 can't recording in 720p, he has the hardware capacity

Windows Mobile...
It's not a hardware limitation, the Snapdragon chip is more than capable of encoding and decoding 720p video. However, Windows Mobile does not support this in any shape or form. So as long as we're running Windows Mobile, no 720p for us, unless it's somehow hacked in...

we have 640i,
dont know about 720p. But i am pretty sure with the right camera drivers and htc hacks atleast 720i should be possible. But i guess no good the sensor of our hd2 is and if it can take so much pixels at that desired framerate

i loaded my htc hd2 with android froyo 2.2
turned on 720p recording, camera crashed
turned on any other recording format, it worked... so im guessing even if the Operating system allowed it, our hardware didnt...
on Windows Mobile, hell thats a no go for now

jcsy said:
i loaded my htc hd2 with android froyo 2.2
turned on 720p recording, camera crashed
turned on any other recording format, it worked... so im guessing even if the Operating system allowed it, our hardware didnt...
on Windows Mobile, hell thats a no go for now
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I think you are wrong. You forget that you are running a port of and OS. This Android port will never function as native Android phones. Compare the hardware of the HD2 with any of the 720p recording Android phones and you will see that there are no major differences, at least none that can affect recording. But remember that the bitrate of a video shot in 720p resolution is lower than the video of a hand held camera. All we have in the Android port is the work of people working with drivers and tweaking it. As buggy as it was in the beginning, the Android port got a lot better that it can be compared to native Android phones. Patience is a virtue

guys the new htc hd7 with win mobile 7 have the same camera 5 mp and she record on 720p

suicidal.banana said:
Yes and no, its in the realm of the possible but currently not much is known about the camera, there have been tweaks in the past (like 7mp panorama shot) that turned out to not really work.
I would like to see it as much as you though, heres to hoping some of the devs want it too
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my theory: technically it's a slr xD
I've been fooling around a bit with the camera and turned up with over 4000 pics taken in the last 3 months. i figured a few things out and will attach a few shots just to proof my theory 'bout the slr^^
edit: [i also realized a clicking noise while taking the shots, similiar to the noise a big slr makes]
and doesn't the dpi (96/128) take effect on HD recording/displaying?
just an idea^^

galati said:
guys the new htc hd7 with win mobile 7 have the same camera 5 mp and she record on 720p
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Yes, I have a Toshiba TG01 WinMO 6.5. Itcomes with the same 1GHz Snapdragon 8520 chipset. We also can't use HD 720p recording The HD7 has the SAME chipset as the HD2 and TG01, so it's definitely not a hardware limitation. I hope with the arrival of WP7 on HD2 will 'unlock' this feature. WE have good news on our TG01 forum. We are going to be expecting the first WP7Beta within the next few days

You can on the HD7.

i though this was an app >.> omg

hey guys!!!!
i just figured out that wp7 on the hd7 runs with more than 600 dpi, winmo 6.5.~ runs with 128 dpi. THAT is why we can't record in 720p!
i hope your not so disappointed afterall, since the hd2 is the first device known to run Mameo, Android, Ubuntu, WinMo an WinPhone. So just wait a few weeks 'til wp7 is ported!

hi quys i have android 2.2 froyo and it is possible qwga resolution, but on 720p it crashes, while recording it is all good, but on playback video is all pink,green...
question> Is continious focus in video mode possible and ported on HD2

Just flashed windows phone 7 on the HD2, I can confirm that 720p recording is real. No issues with recording or playing. It records in .mp4 with 1280x720 resolution. Try it

barbarosie_alexandru said:
Just flashed windows phone 7 on the HD2, I can confirm that 720p recording is real. No issues with recording or playing. It records in .mp4 with 1280x780 resolution. Try it
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see? i told you guys this has something to do with winmo 6 xD