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Qualcomm vs Intel Xscale, HTC vs Atom

Need Help guys, confused which one is better..
I heard that the Qualcomm proc. is GPS compatible, but not Intel Xscale..
which one is faster anyway.. looking forward buying HTC Tytn II or Atom Life Pure..

ncex said:
Need Help guys, confused which one is better..
I heard that the Qualcomm proc. is GPS compatible, but not Intel Xscale..
which one is faster anyway.. looking forward buying HTC Tytn II or Atom Life Pure..
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Where did you here Intel Xscale is not compatible with GPS? The Fujtisu-Siemens Loox N-series all have Intel CPUs and GPS.

they use an external chip xscale dont have gps on chi the qualcomm does

Rudegar said:
they use an external chip xscale dont have gps on chi the qualcomm does
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Which one is better performing and has more overclocking capabilities?

just lol.
forget about quallcomm forget about samsung.
htc is killing pda by mounting these ****TY cpu's.

nothin said:
just lol.
forget about quallcomm forget about samsung.
htc is killing pda by mounting these ****TY cpu's.
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let me disagree: Samsung's later, 5xxx/6xxx series CPU's (coming in iPhones and the latest E-TEN devices) are far better than the ARM9 4xxx series ones.

i was thinking about existing REAL devices with wm0x...

htc does use some ****ty ass CPU

spec wise, which is better? tytn, tytn or wing?

Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Atlas

Thanks
so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
Thanks

Ray_jai said:
Thanks
so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
Thanks
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The atlas is the wing. The "non blue" version of the wing is the herald.

OOO, i see.
Thanks
how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks

Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
Thanks
how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas

T-Mobile Says the Processor is just fine.
Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
Thanks
how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The explanation that the T-Mobile officials gives for the Wing's 200mhz processor is that, the Wing dosen't need a 400mHz processor. The Tytn and Tytn 2 both have 3G support hence that requires a faster processor, but T-Mobile dosen't support 3G in first place so the processor power for that is uneccesary.

kweng_ca said:
The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas
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i really don't find it that slow, it works just fine for me. You might have too many things running at the same time or too many Start up items.

i did put the best first and
a faster cpu is always better
for video games and general performance
though kaiser is missing a driver so
it got some performance issues

Ray_jai said:
Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks
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There is no "best" one. If you want power then Tytn 2 is the best one. If you want looks and a slim phone then the Wing is. The Tilt(Tytn 2 in America) is also heaver than the wing. So you have a choice of look and feel v/s power. Also if you are planning to use T-Mobile, then some of the Tytn 2's features are useless, same with the first Tytn.

the wing prob also last longer on a charge
but specwise is prob a pure hardware feature and power question more of an usability or requirement question

Rudegar said:
the wing prob also last longer on a charge
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possibly, since a less powerfull processor requires less battery to run.

HTC Touch Pro 2 with old Processor?!

Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.

Well, I understand your annoyance with an old processor, and although I'm definitely getting the TP2 if I can, I would certainly prefer a faster clock speed, maybe 628 mHz or higher. What I don't understand is where you are getting the chip measurements. Are you refering to this spec's page?
Dave

Hi,
yes, your refering spec's website is right. PDADB has auso the same spec. I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor. :-( I hope this is a misstake on the website.

chrigiboy said:
...I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor...
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You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.

SomethingWicked said:
You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.
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I do hope you are wrong, because if you are not I will keep waiting for the next phone to come out and never upgrade my phone until year 2050...

For me it is the same too. I won't even take a glance at any phone with only 624MHz on it. I need something faster. I have an HTC Universal (524MHz), and I think that was slow after loading all my applications. The same goes with my HTC Advantage X7510 (624MHz). An open application runs fine, but you will notice how slow a QUALCOMM processor is upon opening the application.
I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.

... the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01...
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wow! this phone looks beautiful. any1 knows the price already?

I dont think they will do any change in next 8-12 months after the release on TP2 which clearly targeted for bussiness user (Email,calls, battery live) Anyhow I do think the next Touch HD will be in the level of Toshiba G01 and targeted mainly on multimedia (games,movies etc.)

cktlcmd said:
I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.
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It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...

owziee said:
It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...
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When you say HTC T-Mobile G1, are you referring to ANDROID OS? That alone is a big difference. Unfortunately, I like Windows Mobile better at the moment for an all around OS with a wide variety of free and 3rd party applications.
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department. But looking at Xperia videos, it is still slow, especially at opening and starting applications. I bet it will even be slower upon performing multi-task applications running in the background.
I read at Brighthand that the new HTC THOTH will also have a Qualcomm processor but it would be a 1GHz processor. So I guess, we will see by next year how HTC will use these powerful processors, or maybe they will cripple it in some way. They always find something to screw-up. So I guess we will have to wait.

cktlcmd said:
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department.
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I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.

owziee said:
I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.
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No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.

chrigiboy said:
Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.
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Hey, the Touch Pro uses a cdma msm7501a cpu which was made last year.
The Touch Pro 2 uses a msm7600 cdma cpu from 2007.
The TP uses a newer cpu than the atp2.

cktlcmd said:
No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.
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The Sony Xperia is based on the same cpu as the Touch Pro. Look it up in wikipedia.

Fastest HTC phone?

I currently have a Wing OCd to 247Mhz. I was wondering whats the fastest HTC phone out there? Processor-wise.
I preferably want one that xda-developers support, as I love the custom ROMS especially JustStable.
Anyone have any ideas? 500+Mhz pref?
I tried search function, but most questions were like G1 VS Iphone or the new toshi/samsung 1ghz phones. I would love a 1 GHz phone, but not if you guys dont make custom ROMs for it
EDIT: please include Mhz of processor if suggesting a phone. Thanks!

I believe the fastest processor HTC has used in their handsets so far is the Qualcomm 528MHz, but there are plans to release a handset (HTC Leo?) with the 1GHz snapdragon

From the ones actually on sale
Touch Pro 2
Diamond 2
I presume...

orb3000 said:
From the ones actually on sale
Touch Pro 2
Diamond 2
I presume...
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...or
Touch PRO
Diamond
They have the same processors.

Fastest phone is HTC Athena (624 mhz)
there are custom roms for it but not alot and not updated as frequent like Diamond.

D1ab70 said:
Fastest phone is HTC Athena (624 mhz)
there are custom roms for it but not alot and not updated as frequent like Diamond.
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And in a moment it will be Touch PRO

Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.

I'm waiting on the Leo...very bored with these current small CPU's!

cmstackar said:
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
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Read how the guy comments his achievement.. this time it seems to be faster. Of course there are lots of issues in this alpha-pre-alpha state. Lets hope he wont burn down the device

cmstackar said:
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
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true, but I bet any decent 800Mhz phone with custom ROM will beat the **** outta my Herald 201Mhz with custom ROM in terms of speed

HTC HD 3..!!!

Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html

It's a fake.
The announced SnapDragon is the dual core version if I'm not wrong.
It's just a dream concept

But many websites are confirming it..!!!

heartsurfer008 said:
But many websites are confirming it..!!!
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for instance?
plus the specs are from here!!!

woow , good!

this is fail =/

Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !

danielhere said:
Yes, the new HD3 will be complete magic with WP7 :
-no copy and paste, YAY !
-no multitasking, YAY !
-no microSD card, YAY !
Everybody can use it, even 90 yeard old grandmas !
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If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!

heartsurfer008 said:
If what you say is true then it'll suck..!!!
HD2 rocks then..!!!
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I am afraid he is right.
New WP7 reminds me of crappy iPhone interface.
Instead of getting more features and opportunities they're copying Apple style.
Hopefully with WP7.3 we will get copy and paste and with 7.4 maybe multiasking.
I will go for Android when I will change my HD2.

heartsurfer008 said:
Well lot of rumors goin on the net, anyone have any idea if if HD 3 is for real..???
Well there are loads of sites which give you the detaisl when googled, this is 1 of them
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/01/26/htc-hd3-specs-leaked.html
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The first item on the list says "1.5 GB Qualcomm Snapdragon.."
ZOMG!!11!! A PHONE PROCESSOR WITH A GIG AND A HALF OF COMPUTING POWER
..what? Does that make sense to you? No. Use your head next time, man

phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility

domineus said:
phone processors are at 1 ghz and so far maximum processing power is 1.3 ghz overclocked so its not out of the realm of possibility
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I think the point was it says GB not ghz
Edit: Also if it was an official "document" or whatever it would say "Windows Phone Series 7" or whatever the official name is, not "Windows Mobile 7"

Those specs are obviously fake...1200x800 is not a supported resolution.

I think it's a fake ... but I hope so much that is true!
If the HD3 will keep the promises .. for me it will be the first PDA without the physical keyboard!
PS: Just this HD3 can make me leave my Touch Pro 2!

Seems like a rumor for now...but it could show up in the Fall.

I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.

chambo622 said:
I'm sure there will be a successor to the HD2 running Windows Phone 7 Series, but I think they will choose a different name than HD3 considering it's a completely new OS. And it will definitely have a screen res of 800x480, no higher.
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It's possible that the forthcoming HTC Obsession will actually be a merger between the HD and Diamond product lines - in other words that there won't be a direct successor to the HD2 at all.
And yes, the "HD3 specs" posted earlier are a very obvious fake. We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x480; we also know that no WP7S device will be able to use a removable memory card. I really wish people would stop creating threads about these "specs" - there must have been nearly a dozen different threads about them, now. They don't get any less fake for being posted multiple times.

Well have been using HD2 for a while & was just curious, so just started this thread..!!!
Hope we get WM7 or Android sooner on HD2..!!!

Shasarak said:
We now know that WP7S doesn't support resolutions higher than 800x4800;
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800x4800 ? Wow, that's one hell of a resolution

Since when is processor speed measured in GB? And wow they gone really far for 1 generation. from DVD qualitity to 1080p.
Also everybody is talking about HD3. Where is TP3? I want to see some new HTC models with HW KB.
Also i wish that HTC would make some tegra models instead of qualcomm. Maybe then they will provide better drivers.