Qualcomm vs Intel Xscale, HTC vs Atom - General Topics

Need Help guys, confused which one is better..
I heard that the Qualcomm proc. is GPS compatible, but not Intel Xscale..
which one is faster anyway.. looking forward buying HTC Tytn II or Atom Life Pure..

ncex said:
Need Help guys, confused which one is better..
I heard that the Qualcomm proc. is GPS compatible, but not Intel Xscale..
which one is faster anyway.. looking forward buying HTC Tytn II or Atom Life Pure..
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Where did you here Intel Xscale is not compatible with GPS? The Fujtisu-Siemens Loox N-series all have Intel CPUs and GPS.

they use an external chip xscale dont have gps on chi the qualcomm does

Rudegar said:
they use an external chip xscale dont have gps on chi the qualcomm does
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Which one is better performing and has more overclocking capabilities?

just lol.
forget about quallcomm forget about samsung.
htc is killing pda by mounting these ****TY cpu's.

nothin said:
just lol.
forget about quallcomm forget about samsung.
htc is killing pda by mounting these ****TY cpu's.
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let me disagree: Samsung's later, 5xxx/6xxx series CPU's (coming in iPhones and the latest E-TEN devices) are far better than the ARM9 4xxx series ones.

i was thinking about existing REAL devices with wm0x...

htc does use some ****ty ass CPU

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Overclock Treo 750v CPU?

Is there a program out there that would effectively overclock the Treo's CPU?
nope not yet. I contacted the developer of XCUPScalar who told me the proc was not yet supported.
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Summary: Pocket PC Magazine Best Software 2006 Finalist! Managed CPU scaling approach based on CPU load! Supports Intel® XScale™ and Bulverde™, Samsung® S3C24xx™ and Texas Instruments® OMAP™ processors.
Requirements: Any XScale (PXA21x, PXA25x or PXA26x), Bulverde (PXA27x), Samsung S3C (S3C2410, S3C2410A, S3C2440, S3C2440A or S3C2442) or TI OMAP processor, PPC2002, WM2003/WM2003SE or WM5 device.
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Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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Any way to remove the icon on the bottom of the Today screen?
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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it looks good, i'll try it
hb88xx said:
Seems to work for me under WM6 as well!!
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What speed are you running at now on your 750 once you've overclocked it? Does it affect the battery life?
...and are you truly getting any significant performance benefit for the (I assume reduced) battery life trade off?
Does ths program work on treo 750..? Everyone as reported that it does but when I go to purchase it it says not supported for treo 750...?

TI OMAP850 vs INTEL PXA27X

This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
gzprophet said:
This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
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I'm not really sure what you mean - do you mean if the CPU has enough computation power to execute other tasks while the GSM is active?
If you have followed my articles (most importantly, the ones concerning recording phone calls), you already know the answer: yes, the CPU has the power to execute almost anything else. I haven't made exact CPU usage benchmarks (with acbTaskMan), but I don't think the CPU usage of the GSM module is higher than, say, 20% on a 416 MHz XScale.
it all depends on yr usage. and what u do with yr pda phone.
omap is good for battery life, if u just do appointment & task, simple mp3 leisure yes its for u (dun think abt video)
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices but have customize the chip so that u can choose between PERFORMANCE or BATTERY LIFE. appears in XDA IIi (htc/ppc2003), STEALTH (gigabyte/wm5), Zinc (asus/wm5/6), Atom Life (quanta/wm5/6), Flame (arima/wm5). so far only o2/asus/gigabyte have such feature for their pda phone.
so if you like multifunction/tasking(skype/msn/wifi/internet radio/surfing). get a good device, like ATOM LIFE
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
Tabbe said:
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
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Also add the new Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. It seems hardware manufacturers are switching to it and ditch at least the not very multimedia-friendly Samsung. (I bet something similar will alos happen to XScale, unless they manage to radically reduce their power consumption.)
Tabbe said:
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
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f-ing idiots should just keep their mouths shut. It's 208MHz, you moron. And the guy is asking about processor division of resources, not saying he wants Intel. GOT THAT? or do you need further translation?
raymondu999: I'm gonna ask you to control yourself next time. Such attitude will not be tolerated here. Thank you.
"while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices "
o2 is a phone company they dont make phones the oem phones from other companys
afaik the omap850 is not a real dual-core cpu, because both cores are not the same. one is used for normal apps and the OS and a simpler one takes care of the GSM part.
So... OMAP850 is a Simple Processor for GSM + 200 Mhz Processor for apps
Then my doubt is how Intel manage this, if a device has a spec of processor 416mhz , this 416mhz are for GSM and Apps.
I read in some posts that Intel processors has troubles to manage GSM-APPS-WIFI etc.
intel dont magede gsm and wifi
it's handled by 3th party chips i believe
it would simply see them as IO devices

samsung vs qualcomm ?

Hi, i wanted to ask which processor is faster:
The 400mhz Samsung of the Tytn or the 400mhz Qualcomm of the Tytn II ?
What are the advantages of each processor?
I heard that the samsung has a better connection to the flash, but i couldn't find much information in the web. Thx!
i would like to know that too.....
me too...
but i think the advantage (only of the chipset, not the devices with the chip!) of qualcomm are the all-in-one-chip-technology..
its all in one chip.. the gpu, fm-radio, gps, and so on....
According to Adama over at Brihthand, the Samaung chip is slightly faster than the MSM7200 and exactly the same speed as the MSM7500. Not sure where he gets his megaflop test data.
nEuDy said:
me too...
but i think the advantage (only of the chipset, not the devices with the chip!) of qualcomm are the all-in-one-chip-technology..
its all in one chip.. the gpu, fm-radio, gps, and so on....
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... and, currently, the lack of proper driver support....
however, I'd still go with the Qualcomm.
Samsung better see here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSOheP9fYMk

OMG... what is this new phone Glofish DX900?

http://www.glofiish.com/news.asp?lang=3&page=1&id=81
OMG.... if it is as it say in the news, I want one
Anyone know anyting about this new phone?
why? Nothing revolutionary there ...... maybe great but the description is a bit vague to tell.
I know nothing.. Would like to know more
^^ here you go, check out this link.
It certainly looks like a decent spec BUT previous phones from GloFish have had problems with their ROM and practically zero cutomer support, try using a T-Mobile Sim card in one last years units and it won't work for a data connection - their customer support knew about the fault but did nothing to fix the issue. Its not something I would risk a few hundred quid on to be honest - Mike
Thanks for the link master athlon.....
Samsung S3C6400 533 MHz Processor... hummm... anyone knows if this processor has 3D inside like the Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor?!?!?!?
mikealder said:
GloFish have had problems with their ROM
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I have a prothet with WM6.1 not thank to HTC...
mikealder said:
practically zero customer support
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Compared to what? HTC kraiser costumer suporte? no 3D drivers? loooooool
ff2005 said:
Compared to what? HTC kraiser costumer suporte? no 3D drivers? loooooool
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Yeah, people do seem to beat up on E-Ten, even though I've never heard of an HTC phone working the way it should out of the box. I'm really excited about this phone, the specs are comparable to the Diamond, plus dual SIMs, plus a microSD slot, plus a real battery.
ff2005 said:
Thanks for the link master athlon.....
Samsung S3C6400 533 MHz Processor... hummm... anyone knows if this processor has 3D inside like the Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor?!?!?!?
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I looked it up here, and it doesn't say anything about 3D acceleration. It does support 2D acceleration, though.
Any one who has this phone. Comments on the performance please.
I wish HTC would produce a device with DVB-T, would make a nice pocket tv device
Knightro said:
Any one who has this phone. Comments on the performance please.
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It's very fast and responsive, uses SPB Mobile Shell like a lot of Glofiish devices. Alas, no accelerated 3D support but the Samsung processor DOES have accelerated 2D support.
VGA screen is crisp and clear, and dual SIM function is really good.
they are brave enough to come out with a unique dual sim WM device and I love it!
The ROM upgrade had been done only once? Guess its bec they are being bought by Acer so there's a little company adjustment of personnel or the like
Hi all,
I have a simple question: does it have a "standard" 3.5mm audio jack or a smaller 2.5mm one?
Thanks,
Davide
Says here that it's a 2.5mm jack.

HTC Touch Pro 2 with old Processor?!

Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.
Well, I understand your annoyance with an old processor, and although I'm definitely getting the TP2 if I can, I would certainly prefer a faster clock speed, maybe 628 mHz or higher. What I don't understand is where you are getting the chip measurements. Are you refering to this spec's page?
Dave
Hi,
yes, your refering spec's website is right. PDADB has auso the same spec. I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor. :-( I hope this is a misstake on the website.
chrigiboy said:
...I don't know, why i've got to pay for a new mobilephone with a old processor...
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You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.
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You don't... You can wait a month or two till the Touch Pro 3 comes out, which will probably have the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01. Seems like htc is releasing new devices every few months or so now, so wait a little while and what you want will be available soon.
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I do hope you are wrong, because if you are not I will keep waiting for the next phone to come out and never upgrade my phone until year 2050...
For me it is the same too. I won't even take a glance at any phone with only 624MHz on it. I need something faster. I have an HTC Universal (524MHz), and I think that was slow after loading all my applications. The same goes with my HTC Advantage X7510 (624MHz). An open application runs fine, but you will notice how slow a QUALCOMM processor is upon opening the application.
I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.
... the new Snapdragon 1ghz processor like the Toshiba G01...
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wow! this phone looks beautiful. any1 knows the price already?
I dont think they will do any change in next 8-12 months after the release on TP2 which clearly targeted for bussiness user (Email,calls, battery live) Anyhow I do think the next Touch HD will be in the level of Toshiba G01 and targeted mainly on multimedia (games,movies etc.)
cktlcmd said:
I really think the combination of HTC and Qualcomm processors are not a good match. I promised myself, I won't buy another HTC device if it has a QUALCOMM processor in it.
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It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...
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It has to be something else thats causing the problem, not just the HTC/Qualcomm combination.
The HTC T-mobile G1 is very responsive and fast and uses the same qualcomm cpu, also the Xperia X1 is using it and I've read it outperforms the Diamond/Touch Pro in multimedia department. HTC developed the X1 aswell.
I'm confused...
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When you say HTC T-Mobile G1, are you referring to ANDROID OS? That alone is a big difference. Unfortunately, I like Windows Mobile better at the moment for an all around OS with a wide variety of free and 3rd party applications.
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department. But looking at Xperia videos, it is still slow, especially at opening and starting applications. I bet it will even be slower upon performing multi-task applications running in the background.
I read at Brighthand that the new HTC THOTH will also have a Qualcomm processor but it would be a 1GHz processor. So I guess, we will see by next year how HTC will use these powerful processors, or maybe they will cripple it in some way. They always find something to screw-up. So I guess we will have to wait.
cktlcmd said:
With regards to X-Peria, it's made by SONY which specializes on multimedia, so that is no surprise at that department.
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I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.
owziee said:
I really thought HTC made the xperia for SONY.
Anyway my point was that the xperia is using the same qualcomm cpu like the diamond/pro for example and the xperia outperforms them both in multimedia performance. And if I'm wrong about the xperia made by HTC then ok you are right.
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No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.
chrigiboy said:
Hello,
can anyone explain me, why does the HTC Touch Pro 2 get a older Processor like HTC Touch Pro 1? HTC Touch Pro get a Qualcomm MSM7201A with 65nm (less Battery) and the HTC Touch Pro 2 have a Qualcomm MSM7200A with 90 nm (need more Batterypower), this Processor is over 2 Years old!!! Is there a misstake on the Website of the specification on HTC?
Thanks for your answer.
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Hey, the Touch Pro uses a cdma msm7501a cpu which was made last year.
The Touch Pro 2 uses a msm7600 cdma cpu from 2007.
The TP uses a newer cpu than the atp2.
cktlcmd said:
No you are right, maybe I should had made it clear, the XPeria is made by HTC, but Sony definitely has something to do with it's multimedia capabilities. Sony would not just let HTC make something and not have any control over it.
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The Sony Xperia is based on the same cpu as the Touch Pro. Look it up in wikipedia.

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