spec wise, which is better? tytn, tytn or wing? - General Topics

Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Atlas

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so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
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Ray_jai said:
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so i assume the wing is better then them? since it's the last one.
also, where can i find the Atlas? my friend doesn't like the blue on the wing.
Thanks
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The atlas is the wing. The "non blue" version of the wing is the herald.

OOO, i see.
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how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
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Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
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how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas

T-Mobile Says the Processor is just fine.
Ray_jai said:
OOO, i see.
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how come the Wing's CPU speed is lower then the rest?
why do I have the feeling he put the list from > (greatest to least) and not <
Thanks
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The explanation that the T-Mobile officials gives for the Wing's 200mhz processor is that, the Wing dosen't need a 400mHz processor. The Tytn and Tytn 2 both have 3G support hence that requires a faster processor, but T-Mobile dosen't support 3G in first place so the processor power for that is uneccesary.

kweng_ca said:
The wing has an omap 850 which is god awful slow, its also got only 64mb's of ram. tytn2>tytn>atlas
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i really don't find it that slow, it works just fine for me. You might have too many things running at the same time or too many Start up items.

i did put the best first and
a faster cpu is always better
for video games and general performance
though kaiser is missing a driver so
it got some performance issues

Ray_jai said:
Hey guys,
My friend wants to get a PPC and he wants to know which phone is better spec wise.
like which one runs faster.
tytn, tytn 2 or wing?
if you know can you put them in order from < (least to greatest)?
Thanks
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There is no "best" one. If you want power then Tytn 2 is the best one. If you want looks and a slim phone then the Wing is. The Tilt(Tytn 2 in America) is also heaver than the wing. So you have a choice of look and feel v/s power. Also if you are planning to use T-Mobile, then some of the Tytn 2's features are useless, same with the first Tytn.

the wing prob also last longer on a charge
but specwise is prob a pure hardware feature and power question more of an usability or requirement question

Rudegar said:
the wing prob also last longer on a charge
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possibly, since a less powerfull processor requires less battery to run.

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Overclocking HTC Touch

don't know if this has been asked, but....
I know there is a overclocking util (BatteryStatus) for the older 200Mhz Touch.
But I got the CDMA HTC Touch (MP6900 ??) with the 400Mhz speed cpu, and the "BateryStatus" util does not work on it... actually it craped out the phone many times tonight... had to do many hard resets!! Crap !!
So.... is there a overclocking util for this version (runing windows mobile pro 6) any one know ???
thanks
Dweeb
Can't be done. A search would have told you that.
Dweeboid said:
don't know if this has been asked, but....
I know there is a overclocking util (BatteryStatus) for the older 200Mhz Touch.
But I got the CDMA HTC Touch (MP6900 ??) with the 400Mhz speed cpu, and the "BateryStatus" util does not work on it... actually it craped out the phone many times tonight... had to do many hard resets!! Crap !!
So.... is there a overclocking util for this version (runing windows mobile pro 6) any one know ???
thanks
Dweeb
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Why would you want to overclock it anyway? The battery usage would be increased and you would probably shorten the lifespan of the device....these things aint cheap you know
400 MHz in a pocket device like these is easily fast enough!
dont know if i agree with that... windows mobile isn't the best operating system because it's sloppy. so we need faster pocketpc's in all honesty.
even 400mhz isn't fast enough.
i'm also curious if its possible to squeeze just a little extra out of it (safely).
i love how my Touch works and how it's setup with windows mobile 6 and now this Manila 2D interface... but it's just always been slow. Even straight out of the box. I recently lost my phone and got a new one... Opened up the brand new one and it's just as slow as my other one.
i made registry tweaks too to increase ram usage and all those good things yo u can do there. no good in my opinion too slow for 2008... 2009 now.
great hardware. poor software. want to compensate for that by making the good hardware even better...
tom_m said:
dont know if i agree with that... windows mobile isn't the best operating system because it's sloppy. so we need faster pocketpc's in all honesty.
even 400mhz isn't fast enough.
i'm also curious if its possible to squeeze just a little extra out of it (safely).
i love how my Touch works and how it's setup with windows mobile 6 and now this Manila 2D interface... but it's just always been slow. Even straight out of the box. I recently lost my phone and got a new one... Opened up the brand new one and it's just as slow as my other one.
i made registry tweaks too to increase ram usage and all those good things yo u can do there. no good in my opinion too slow for 2008... 2009 now.
great hardware. poor software. want to compensate for that by making the good hardware even better...
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Hi dude, read your post and i wonder if you search the XDA for new 6.5roms esp "optimised" ? I heard XDA has most of the roms for "all" wm phone also uni roms. use the search engine found at the top under " search ". I have downloaded a "Touch" but forgot where they are located cos im a downloader, not a note writer
deranche said:
Hi dude, read your post and i wonder if you search the XDA for new 6.5roms esp "optimised" ? I heard XDA has most of the roms for "all" wm phone also uni roms. use the search engine found at the top under " search ". I have downloaded a "Touch" but forgot where they are located cos im a downloader, not a note writer
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So, what version of the Touch do you have?

OMG... what is this new phone Glofish DX900?

http://www.glofiish.com/news.asp?lang=3&page=1&id=81
OMG.... if it is as it say in the news, I want one
Anyone know anyting about this new phone?
why? Nothing revolutionary there ...... maybe great but the description is a bit vague to tell.
I know nothing.. Would like to know more
^^ here you go, check out this link.
It certainly looks like a decent spec BUT previous phones from GloFish have had problems with their ROM and practically zero cutomer support, try using a T-Mobile Sim card in one last years units and it won't work for a data connection - their customer support knew about the fault but did nothing to fix the issue. Its not something I would risk a few hundred quid on to be honest - Mike
Thanks for the link master athlon.....
Samsung S3C6400 533 MHz Processor... hummm... anyone knows if this processor has 3D inside like the Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor?!?!?!?
mikealder said:
GloFish have had problems with their ROM
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I have a prothet with WM6.1 not thank to HTC...
mikealder said:
practically zero customer support
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Compared to what? HTC kraiser costumer suporte? no 3D drivers? loooooool
ff2005 said:
Compared to what? HTC kraiser costumer suporte? no 3D drivers? loooooool
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Yeah, people do seem to beat up on E-Ten, even though I've never heard of an HTC phone working the way it should out of the box. I'm really excited about this phone, the specs are comparable to the Diamond, plus dual SIMs, plus a microSD slot, plus a real battery.
ff2005 said:
Thanks for the link master athlon.....
Samsung S3C6400 533 MHz Processor... hummm... anyone knows if this processor has 3D inside like the Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 Mhz processor?!?!?!?
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I looked it up here, and it doesn't say anything about 3D acceleration. It does support 2D acceleration, though.
Any one who has this phone. Comments on the performance please.
I wish HTC would produce a device with DVB-T, would make a nice pocket tv device
Knightro said:
Any one who has this phone. Comments on the performance please.
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It's very fast and responsive, uses SPB Mobile Shell like a lot of Glofiish devices. Alas, no accelerated 3D support but the Samsung processor DOES have accelerated 2D support.
VGA screen is crisp and clear, and dual SIM function is really good.
they are brave enough to come out with a unique dual sim WM device and I love it!
The ROM upgrade had been done only once? Guess its bec they are being bought by Acer so there's a little company adjustment of personnel or the like
Hi all,
I have a simple question: does it have a "standard" 3.5mm audio jack or a smaller 2.5mm one?
Thanks,
Davide
Says here that it's a 2.5mm jack.

Fastest HTC phone?

I currently have a Wing OCd to 247Mhz. I was wondering whats the fastest HTC phone out there? Processor-wise.
I preferably want one that xda-developers support, as I love the custom ROMS especially JustStable.
Anyone have any ideas? 500+Mhz pref?
I tried search function, but most questions were like G1 VS Iphone or the new toshi/samsung 1ghz phones. I would love a 1 GHz phone, but not if you guys dont make custom ROMs for it
EDIT: please include Mhz of processor if suggesting a phone. Thanks!
I believe the fastest processor HTC has used in their handsets so far is the Qualcomm 528MHz, but there are plans to release a handset (HTC Leo?) with the 1GHz snapdragon
From the ones actually on sale
Touch Pro 2
Diamond 2
I presume...
orb3000 said:
From the ones actually on sale
Touch Pro 2
Diamond 2
I presume...
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...or
Touch PRO
Diamond
They have the same processors.
Fastest phone is HTC Athena (624 mhz)
there are custom roms for it but not alot and not updated as frequent like Diamond.
D1ab70 said:
Fastest phone is HTC Athena (624 mhz)
there are custom roms for it but not alot and not updated as frequent like Diamond.
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And in a moment it will be Touch PRO
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
I'm waiting on the Leo...very bored with these current small CPU's!
cmstackar said:
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
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Read how the guy comments his achievement.. this time it seems to be faster. Of course there are lots of issues in this alpha-pre-alpha state. Lets hope he wont burn down the device
cmstackar said:
Higher clock speed does not always equal faster processor.
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true, but I bet any decent 800Mhz phone with custom ROM will beat the **** outta my Herald 201Mhz with custom ROM in terms of speed

Overclocking the HTC Touch Diamond 2

There a seller on ebay selling a HTC Touch Diamond 2 that is overclocked to 1GHz.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-HTC-Touc...ItemQQptZAU_Mobile_Phones?hash=item3efaa9c966
How do you overclock a HTC Touch Diamond 2
fake?
i don't thik you can
if it where possible it would shure drain your battery
it is olso no stock wm 6.5 because on the pic you see japanese combined wit english on the menu's
so i think its fake
greetz nem
edit : i am sure it can't be done
is normal speed is 528 MHz so you have 2 dubbel it
emails4me said:
There a seller on ebay selling a HTC Touch Diamond 2 that is overclocked to 1GHz.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-HTC-Touc...ItemQQptZAU_Mobile_Phones?hash=item3efaa9c966
How do you overclock a HTC Touch Diamond 2
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....its a fake; look at the stylus; its placed on the left side at the device!
lol
olso no zoom bar and the usb entrance is on the top insted of on the bottum
Wowww. What a phone. A topaz that faster than mine. Hahaha.
Must be a chlnese brand non htc device. Notice that there is no HTC text up on the phone.
I'm impressed.
For a moment I thought it was an actual TD2, but the volume control in place of the zoombar gave it away, along with the stylus. Pretty cool, though
Ok,Ok, its fake picture from ebay...But can somebody upload some cab for over- and under- clocking for our device...or some link for download ?
Thanks forwarding
Regards
miro666 said:
Ok,Ok, its fake picture from ebay...But can somebody upload some cab for over- and under- clocking for our device...or some link for download ?
Thanks forwarding
Regards
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Hmm. Overclocking is not possible i think.
opensea said:
Hmm. Overclocking is not possible i think.
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Not possible ? To bad...Maybe with them app we can improved battery life for our device.
EDIT: Will somebody try this app :
nueClockControl
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overclocking a cell phone? what's next, upgrading ram, installing nvidia video graphics cards and playing halo3? the nueclockcontrol program has 7065 downloads, but it doesn't seem like any of them are from xda, otherwise we would have heard something by now! "if it's too good to be true, then it probably is!"
nueclockcontroll can't overclock , it can only "underclock" :-(
but its a nice thread , maybe can anywhere "edit" the nueclockcontroll so we can overclock ?
i have se some HTC Kaiser what was OC to 728mhz < , so its possible , but nobody have a programm :-(
I would not even dare to *overclock* my phone.
What advantages would this have as the rest of the hardware is not designed for this ?
I think this will reduce the life span of your phone as well?
miro666 said:
Not possible ? To bad...Maybe with them app we can improved battery life for our device.
EDIT: Will somebody try this app :
nueClockControl
Regards
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a direct text of your link Although overclocking is not possible yet,
try to reed first
CommanderDuplex said:
nueclockcontroll can't overclock , it cans only "underclock" :-(
but its a nice thread , maybe can anywhere "edit" the nueclockcontroll so we can overclock ?
i have se some HTC Kaiser what was OC to 728mhz < , so its possible , but nobody have a programm :-(
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OK,OK....But underclocking is good for battery life...But bad for device speed....Resume: I hold on original processor speed 528 MHz
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I already fried one Artemis playing this silly overclock game..I got the what I call "fading to black screen syndrome". I was extremely lucky that my device was still under warranty and that HTC assistance couldn't detect it was my fault. So it is obvious that I absolutely NOT recommend to use such tools, also because the advantage you could take is nothing compared to the disadvantage of a even more poor battery life
sualc said:
I already fried one Artemis playing this silly overclock game..I got the what I call "fading to black screen syndrome". I was extremely lucky that my device was still under warranty and that HTC assistance couldn't detect it was my fault. So it is obvious that I absolutely NOT recommend to use such tools, also because the advantage you could take is nothing compared to the disadvantage of a even more poor battery life
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That is true....Maybe it, playing wit CPU clock speed, is reason because many coocked ROMs on ROM section our forum, have enormus battery drain usage...
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Same here... Overclocked my HTC Touch. And killed it after a while..
(fortunately my warranty did the job after that^^ )
The tool "BatteryStatus" overclocked and underclocked the phone dynamic so it was battery friendly and faster..
It works great if you don't go too far with the processor speed
[edit] The cooked ROMs here are not overclocked I guess.. It would be mentioned to what mhz the ROMs clock our devices.
Tool "Battery Status" ? Have you link or can upload cab ?
Do you mind on Battery Guard maybe ?
Regards
I used BatteryStatus to overclock my HTC Touch. On the Topaz it does not over/underclock the cpu...
(At least I didn't find the option to change cpu speed)
overclocking
I would apreciate the possibility of dynamicly overclocking the TOPAZ.
I don´t find it that fast though, having disabled htc-sense, using spb MS 3.5 instead.
Maybe have to downgrad to MS 3 ..
I was so glad having BatteryStatus installed on my htc ELF, usually running with 200MHZ.
overclocked dynamicly between 112 - 299 (turbo-, basic 273) and my little elf was damn fast but economicly working with its battery.
Any app simular to BS for the Topaz would be worth donating at least € 10,--
Regards

Android Phones or its just G1 and MT3G....

ok, about android phones is there a way to avoid slow/lag times after prolong usage? because it seems like my mt3g does NOT know how to "cycle" its own memory and then a week later, just like most rom's, it just suddenly SLOWS down. it pisses me off so much! when i began a new rom i could text and call quickly as the phone would normally and then eventually later on the week the most important part of my life my phone just feels like slowin down as if its under depression over something it REFUSES to forget! WTF is there to do to solve this???
diluvium said:
ok, about android phones is there a way to avoid slow/lag times after prolong usage? because it seems like my mt3g does NOT know how to "cycle" its own memory and then a week later, just like most rom's, it just suddenly SLOWS down. it pisses me off so much! when i began a new rom i could text and call quickly as the phone would normally and then eventually later on the week the most important part of my life my phone just feels like slowin down as if its under depression over something it REFUSES to forget! WTF is there to do to solve this???
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Just reboot then, either that or use a different rom...There's also the choice of getting a new phone too, you have to remember the MT3G is kind of like an upgraded G1, but with only more int memory....Same cheap 528 CPU and low 192MB RAM. Phones with these kind of specs cant help it if they slow down.
Ace42 said:
Just reboot then, either that or use a different rom...There's also the choice of getting a new phone too, you have to remember the MT3G is kind of like an upgraded G1, but with only more int memory....Same cheap 528 CPU and low 192MB RAM. Phones with these kind of specs cant help it if they slow down.
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Hi getting a MT3G 1.2 32A the new one with the same CPU MSM7200A ARM11 processor, and 288MB RAM as the HTC Hero my question is
Can it run hero roms or not ?
Thanks
zerodi said:
Hi getting a MT3G 1.2 32A the new one with the same CPU MSM7200A ARM11 processor, and 288MB RAM as the HTC Hero my question is
Can it run hero roms or not ?
Thanks
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any rom you can imagine, and it works just as well as the hero too.
jcarrz1 said:
any rom you can imagine, and it works just as well as the hero too.
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I wonder... could it be? Is it because they are exactly the same phone in a different shaped plastic container?
wow awsome news !!
Froyd on the 32A here we come yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa
zerodi said:
Hi getting a MT3G 1.2 32A the new one with the same CPU MSM7200A ARM11 processor, and 288MB RAM as the HTC Hero my question is
Can it run hero roms or not ?
Thanks
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It can but you still don't have working bluetooth (unless you use a different radio version which I haven't tried).
Binary100100 said:
It can but you still don't have working bluetooth (unless you use a different radio version which I haven't tried).
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Thats ok i never use bluetooth - maybe a few years ago on a nokia i did so i can live without that
Have you tried the latest froydvillian 1.4.3
on it ? Does it all work great ?
I love the form factor of the magic better than the Hero so when i saw there was a hero in a magic body i was chuffed

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