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Dalvik Turbo - Apps 3 times faster

Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
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It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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sapphireHero said:
Ok, heres a link that made my day .. beside the 780 MHz hack
tinyurl.com /yckhmsl
(1 post, cant post any link so just remove the space in between)
It sounds really amazing. I would love see it floating soon in XDA with all the great roms here.
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Exciting to hear, and certainly more legitimate than the dumb 780mhz hoax.
Edit: LOL, Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚'s picture is hilarious.

Don't be expecting much out of it.....
"increases application execution speed by up to three times"
That REALLY is NOT that hard to do. You will note that they do NOT say 3-times across the board! It means that they found at least ONE glitch somewhere where something was running slower than it had to, and in THAT CASE, it results in a speedup with a factor of 3. Note that this particular speedup might result in a SLOW DOWN somewhere else (if they are morons). Second, this "Myriad" doesn't make me feel at all warm or fuzzy -- it feels like proprietary locked-in type nonsense. You know, they kind where this group of douchebags is trying to take over the entire platform by intentionally introducing proprietary incompatibilities.

lbcoder said:
Don't be expecting much out of it.....
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+1
Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind

Pfeffernuss said:
+1
Same as the 780Mhz cr*p. It's all in the mind
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major performance boost or no, work like this is what makes Android great. This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device and I, for one, am very pleased at this (pre-)announcement.
can't wait to see some benchmarks.

alapapa said:
This is the OHA at work to get the most out of every device....
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No it isn't. This is just some proprietary junk. If it were OHA at work, you'd see contributions being pushed back to the AOSP, which I guarantee you will NOT see here. All this is is a private fork of AOSP/dalvik that those douchebags are trying to SELL.

Myriad whosawhatsit is a founding member of the OHA, folks. I don't know what, precisely, this "Dalvik Turbo" is -- but I //do// know that Myriad was one of the companies involved in developing Dalvik itself. They specialize in virtual machine development.
I //suspect// that this is some special JIT process. But they then turn around and claim that the memory signature impact is low as well. So... who can say?

Sweet deal, buuuut.....
this should be interesting, it seems to me that we have an influx of tools, mods, scripts and hacks and no real new roms. I guess its in part due to the fact that too much is coming out too quick for it to all get implemented. We'll see how it goes.... Hopefully in the next couple weeks we'll see this and all the overclocking hacks integrated into some cool new roms.

So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.

Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚ said:
That's nice.
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****ING ROFL, +1 for you Zalgo.

tehseano said:
So if the processor isn't REALLY being pushed to 780....why does the heat increase? And if lowered, it decreases in temperate. How about the actual increases in speed...I have x2 G1's, and have physically used SuperD 1.8 on both, one at normal 528, the other are 700. Simple actions like moving through the app drawer (that both have 150 apps), the 700 moves much quicker, and isn't choppier. I've been playing with all sorts of actions on the G1, such as the launcher scrolling, playing video, etc, and the one clocked at 700 out performs every single time.
So you're saying everything I just mentioned is in my head? I'm not saying its a monumental increase, but there is a clear difference.
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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.

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No, my friend the speed you feel is very very real and not in your head at all.
People think that its fake cause they dont seem to like eugene, thats a story for a unknown time though. But do you mind telling me where you found the boot.img for Super-D, I would like to try it out.Only got to try it on eclair to see if LWPs would move faster.
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Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744

P_Dub_S said:
Here's what your looking for at the moment I set the max OC to 600 and I can tell a really nice overall speed improvement. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5576685&postcount=1744
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Thanks a million, I hope this will help game emulators out a bit.

No need to speculate about this as we will see one way or the other next week at MWC. Also guys lets not drag the OC debate into this thread as it's OT and there is enough flame in the thread dedicated for it.

I miss some facts for the "turbo vm".
it could be:
- optimize code (3x faster only with special benchmark...)
- jit compiler (longer startup times)
- jit + store the compiled code (seen on IBM mainframes)
- hot spot compiler (like the actual sun jvm)

I get a
Formatting SYSTEM:...
Copying files...
E:Can't symlink /system/xbin/bb/[[
E:Failure at line 59:
symlink /system/xbin/busybox SYSTEM:xbin/bb/[
Installation aborted.
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after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.

RFE said:
I get a
after doing a full wipe. What gives? Perhaps I need to try a different SPL or radio.
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Undervolt?

THIS THREAD IS MEANT FOR DEVS ON THE MATTER OF UNDERVOLT
According to the guy who made setcpu.
pershoot just changed the voltage used by adjusting the voltages (in mV) in the acpu_freq_tbl table in acpuclock-scorpion.c
So if we just edit the table in our own acpuclock-arm11.c(or acpuclock-arm11.c-OCing), that should give us undervolt?
It can't be that simple?
Code:
/* MSM7201A Levels 3-6 all correspond to 1.2V, level 7 corresponds to 1.325V. */
enum {
VDD_0 = 0,
VDD_1 = 1,
VDD_2 = 2,
VDD_3 = 3,
VDD_4 = 4,
VDD_5 = 5,
VDD_6 = 6,
VDD_7 = 7,
VDD_END
};
Thanks to kleranc for idea.
I should probably update this since it has been reincarnated for some reason. lol.
Regardless, this image will explain everything(thanks jus10o for the nice drawing):
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I have to be clear about a few things though:
Under my own testing, and from my own experiences; our processor isn't capable of exerting itself that much. So if you are using an undervolted kernel, it really only undervolts the higher frequencies as you can see in the table above. This is good and bad.
Good: Because you're not using that much juice from the battery and you keep a lower core temp
Bad: Because you may notice performance loss
It also has to be noted that not all processors will behave equally: you may experience no performance loss, or you may experience complete loss. It's a roll of the dice.
About lower frequencies and undervolting(from GSM Hero forum):
dipje said:
To all
Now, about the 'undervolting': A lot of talk and discussion has been going on in the kernel thread(s), and I think every kernel 'hacker' in the end ended up with pretty much the same frequency table and settings. Going lower than VDD_3 ended up in waking-issues or not-responding heroes. Some worked, most didn't. You see the ROMs here and there that used 19mhz and / or VDD_2 or lower now releasing updated versions with just a bit more juice and mhz during sleep, because some heroes really aren't waking up properly.
Or aging 7200 just needs a bit of juice apparently
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Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?

Mr. Biggz said:
Is the only benefit of undervolting better battery life?
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Well at higher-frequencies we'd benefit a lot on battery life. With just about everyone using Overclock kernels, this could really help out.
For some of us, battery life means a lot.

So phusson has a simple fix for dropping VDD levels.
Here
Name sounds familiar? Yeah he's the same guy who helped us get overlocking on our msm7k phones
So credit to him. Should have somthing ready by tomorrow.

if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.

Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Yes it would increase the heat, but no substantially. Besides, we wouldn't decrease the voltage too much. Finding just a "safe" undervolt to conserve battery(if it exists).

figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041

Kenpoman said:
if i am not mistaken lowering the voltage would increase the heat at high clock speeds. this is just a guess from my engineering background.
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Huh? Excuse me, but I have an engineering background too (materials science) and must have missed that lecture. What is the principle behind this? I'm really skeptical because I'm 99% sure from my years of PC modding experience that a lower voltage is synonymous with better battery life, longer life-time (opposite effect of over-volting), and lower temperatures.
There are no disadvantages other than instability, which only happens if your voltage is TOO low.
Edit: here's a source that backs my claim
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...es/235824-undervolting-guide.html#post3183068

Sparticuz said:
figured i should update since this has been done...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6885956&postcount=1041
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But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.

RE: c00ller
I have to agree with c00ller on this. As an engineer with a physics background, and more importantly, an avid PC overclocker, it is considered common knowledge that lower voltages produce less heat, decrease power consumption, and sacrifice stability at higher clock speeds.
Considering that some of our hero's can be clocked up to 768 mHz stable, undervolting should be doable to a reasonable extent. In fact, if somebody wanted to keep stock frequencies, ie up to only 528, a significant amount of undervolting could probably be accomplished.

foolforfood said:
But will this work on sense based ROMs? I know that the frameworks are different with AOSP ROMs. I've been wanting to do this for a while now but I have no expertise at all.
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Check out my blue echo rom later tonight. Decadence just built me a boot.img for my rom with oc/UV at 710 oc and free autokiller built in. Ill upload tonight and its a sense based rom

Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.

Bradart said:
Just for the sake of clarity:
Will this work on sense roms? (a simple yes or no will do)
Can this be worked into existing kernels?
If someone has a free second, if you want to throw the undervolting into darch's 710 kernel for fresh 2.3.3, i'll test it within 10 minutes of it being posted and throw my results out here.
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Read my post above urs. That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted. I'm running it now and it work just great

That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?

foolforfood said:
That sounds good, but I'm really really happy with my ROM setup, and just want to add in a UV kernel. Nothing against you Papa, but is there any way to get a flashable zip of just the kernel?
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Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight

Papa Smurf151 said:
Ill post it later. I'm at work right now and on my phone. I wasn't saying to use my rom. I was just saying it could be pulled from my rom once I add it tonight
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Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!

foolforfood said:
Awesome, you're fantastic! I'll be checking that out tonight then. Thanks!
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Don't thank me...thank decadence

Papa Smurf151 said:
That's the exact kernal that will be in my rom just undrrvolted.
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Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?

fwhite42 said:
Papa: Since there are multiple versions of all of these kernels at this point, I just want to be clear...
Is the undervolted kernel that you're going to post a mod of the "DarchKernelv4 710mhz with Free Memory Tweak For Fresh 2.1.1/2.1.2/2.3.3" ??
Some people were reporting possible issues with the FreeMem Tweak and there was talking rolling back to v3...so, are you basing off of v3 or v4? And am I correct in thinking that's the right kernel family?
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That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight

Papa Smurf151 said:
That is the exact kernal and its v4. I've been running it for a few days with no issues with the freemem killer. Now its been undervolted and ill post tonight
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Just to clarify kernel != ramdisk .
The kernel is #15 from darchdroid 2.7 from the uv.zip just thrown together with the ramdisk from 2.3.3. That equals the new boot.img.

[Q] please post your quadrant score

I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.

mingkee said:
I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I ran the first quadrant within thirty minutes of getting the phone, and it scored 2554 or something like that.
Just ran one and scored... 2463

you have to realize this is the same chip as the XOOM and Atrix but its powering a lower resolution so the quadrant scores will be higher BUT you're at a lower resolution. I have a Xoom and it gets 1800 while this gets 2500. I'd rather have a higher resolution than a higher score. Still you shouldn't have any problems playing games on here.

Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...

These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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Nobody seems to be getting hung up in this thread?

mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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After scoring 1700 with my Legend with data2ext, I realized that Quadrant scores don't necessarily don't mean much. What I want to see is how much this phone scores in GLBenchmark.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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I don't get your point. How does it mean nothing but also means it's fast? It's a benchmark test. The point of it is to gauge performance, nothing more. Would you have bought one if it scored 850? After all... its a meaningless number.

djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.

atkhobby said:
This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?

djmcnz said:
It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?

MWBehr said:
I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.

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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.

MWBehr said:
I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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Oh? That's quite interesting news to me, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer actually that its not ASOP, I was looking forward to that. Let's hope the cut is shallow and easy to clean.
I hear CM7 is running on x2x so this all may become moot?

Sorry, I didn't read further.. I see the answers here in the forum. Please ignore this post
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Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks

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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
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In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic

djmcnz said:
In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
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Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?

jlevy73 said:
Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
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Just one run...

quadrant score
My quadrant score with pauls modaco rom is 3200+ which i am extremely happy with. on stock rom i was getting 26-2700.

>_<
O2x owners get the hell out of our forum! Your devices are programmed differently than ours, you've most likely tweaked your devices in some way (who comes to XDA and does not do so?), and you're confusing the situation.
Out of the box, the G2x from T-MOBILE USA scores about 2400-2500 on Quadrant. End of story.

Question about quadrant scores!!!!

Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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ray7171 said:
Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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Depends, is your phone rooted? Or is it just running stock TW?
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ray7171 said:
Hello everyone I just have a quick question... What is the trick to get quadrant scores up above 5000? I've seen many people with high scores and I've tried everything and never got out of the 4000`s, actually every time I've ran quadrant, HTC one x beats out my device.
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who cares Its just a number. But if it means that much to you run it several times in a row, it will eventually mess up and give you a hugh fake number You can show all your friends
I got over 30,000 once on my dx and it was still choppy!

piiman said:
who cares Its just a number. But if it means that much to you run it several times in a row, it will eventually mess up and give you a hugh fake number You can show all your friends
I got over 30,000 once on my dx and it was still choppy!
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Yep, its a number, and trying to "increase" it to make the phone "faster" is dumb. If stock has a 1.5ghz clock and scored lets say 4800, Cm10 might be +/- 200 but on the same clock it cant score much higher..... without dumb modifications to fake it.

It is not dumb at all.. You are trying to optimize the performance of your phone.. Make sure battery power saving is turned off, close all applications, usually running after a fresh reboot help. Overclocking helps.
I scored this https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/527107_10151086780898557_1408887957_n.jpg

I was saying the number of 4800 as an example. And yes power saving lowers cpu clock I believe so that affects the score. I'm running a test on cm10 no overclock or anything to show what a true score is. of course overclocking makes it faster, thats not dumb but modifications geared to increase the actual score is silly.
Just got 4400.

These tools are used to give an estimate of how your device compares to other devices... That being said I am running Cleanrom/Cleankernel and get just about the same numbers all the time except for Linpack... I have my phone overclocked to 1800-1999 ghz and my scores are below but it depends on your hardware too... You might not be able to push some phones that high but mine is totally stable at these overclocks so I def have a keeper but my damn home button sticks so I am in the process of getting a replacement... Much love to Cleanrom though!! :good:
I also have no secrets as to make my score higher and even if I did that would be stupid!! IMO

Pretty much all developers will tell you quadrant and benchmarks do not (always) translate to real world performance.
That said: ROMs and kernels will affect scores.
CPU governors will affect scores
Overclocking your CPU will boost our score.
The current jellybean leaks is very fast - will give you scores of 5500+ if that's what our looking for.
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Why are people over clocking this phone? Is their anything on Android that really needs more power then a dual core S4 at 1.5ghz?

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Why are people over clocking this phone? Is their anything on Android that really needs more power then a dual core S4 at 1.5ghz?
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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?

tonu42 said:
Yep, its a number, and trying to "increase" it to make the phone "faster" is dumb. If stock has a 1.5ghz clock and scored lets say 4800, Cm10 might be +/- 200 but on the same clock it cant score much higher..... without dumb modifications to fake it.
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The point is Quadrant sucks and is unreliable, I wasn't kidding when I said I got a 30,000 once....Run it a few times in a row it gets a little better as you repeat. Different biuldprop settings can also make a big difference so different ROMS could easily have vastly different scores.. You couldn't see that +/-200 in real life anyways...... admit it you just want bragging rights :highfive: cooomme onnn admit it

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Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
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I run mine at 1.2 and honestly I can't tell a difference between 1.2, 1.5, and 2.1 beyond benches telling me it's faster.
Please excuse my Galaxy S III, it's a bit Paranoid.

Just for fun....I loaded unofficial cm 9/13 by invisiblek, antutu was 7383. I then loaded ktoonz kernel, it goes up to 8123 (did not overclock). There was someone oc'ed it and got >9000.
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tonu42 said:
Nope, not at all............ someone here please tell me why the phone isnt fast enough enough at 1.5?
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you dont belong here i think... you've missed the point entirely.
BECAUSE YOU CAN

Clienterror said:
I run mine at 1.2 and honestly I can't tell a difference between 1.2, 1.5, and 2.1 beyond benches telling me it's faster.
Please excuse my Galaxy S III, it's a bit Paranoid.
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I just run the phone at 1.0ghz to save on battery and apart from the occasional lag that comes with it, it's not that bad. Had my battery go over 2 days without a single charge due to the underclocking.
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Absolutely stock here. Don't get hung up over benchmark scores... they're only useful for comparing YOUR device before and after you make changes.
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If you REALLY want the best score (and I recommend this when you use a benchmark the right way... like I said, to measure the result of changes), restart your phone, let everything load, then run it. A bunch of background operations can and will slow things down.
But again... they're meaningless for the most part. I could run it again now and the numbers could be wildly different.

Quadrant scores mean nothing.

Maybe u guys just don't know how to test very well or thoroughly, or don't know what to look for. Benchmarks do help. If u know how to use them. No, they don't always show real world use. They should be used to determine the phones maximum. I use them for judging how well they will play through the hardest emulator game, or most intense Android game. It isn't the only thing I go by, but when figuring out new settings or trying to push a new kernel to its absolute max, it is useful as well.
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[ROM][LP5.1][tilapia|grouper]Resurrection_Remix_LP_v5.4.8-20150621 Unofficial

Click the above image to visit the official forum. There are documented details and the Donation link
This is an unoffical experimental build of ResurrectionRemix_LP for the Nexus 7(2012).
Latest 5.1.1_r3 (LMY48B)
Please refer to the tilapia thread for details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3031614

Awesome! My favorite rom and thanks for the 5.3.6 update.
Mike T

Is it stable for day to day?
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium

Thanks for the new release! Version 5.3.7 has been running great on my grouper, now will test version 5.3.8 and then probably sit tight until CM merges in LP 5.1.
Version 5.3.7 was an excellent release, stable with all the great extra features and the addition of being able to make a custom nav button for the power menu. I don't think any other custom rom has that feature yet but then again, I'm not checking/testing many other roms since you started building RR.
Thanks again for the great work and a great rom.
Mike T

Hi Daniel, thanks for the new 5.1 build. I believe it's the first CM12.1 based rom released for grouper/tilapia...Congrats! Thank you for your work on getting this done so quickly.
I haven't really tested very much, I'm on EST and I'm about to get some sleep. The one thing I initially came across is wifi/settings/advanced force closes.
Also, just for further info, I tried dirty flashing this over RR v 5.3.8 while also flashing Banks latest 5.1 gapps and I got multiple force closes of Google apps, like Gmail and Youtube. A clean flash solved the problem. I also noticed that on initial setup, it takes a fairly long time to process the google connection. It almost looks like it's going to hang. I think this is just something new with CM12.1, as I experienced the same behavior on another device with a CM12.1 based rom. Although in that instance, I had to skip initial setup and let it boot into the OS before setting up wifi and google account.
Thank again for the build, I'll be re-setting it up and testing it out over the next little while.
Mike T

webdroidmt said:
Hi Daniel, thanks for the new 5.1 build. I believe it's the first CM12.1 based rom released for grouper/tilapia...Congrats! Thank you for your work on getting this done so quickly.
I haven't really tested very much, I'm on EST and I'm about to get some sleep. The one thing I initially came across is wifi/settings/advanced force closes.
Also, just for further info, I tried dirty flashing this over RR v 5.3.8 while also flashing Banks latest 5.1 gapps and I got multiple force closes of Google apps, like Gmail and Youtube. A clean flash solved the problem. I also noticed that on initial setup, it takes a fairly long time to process the google connection. It almost looks like it's going to hang. I think this is just something new with CM12.1, as I experienced the same behavior on another device with a CM12.1 based rom. Although in that instance, I had to skip initial setup and let it boot into the OS before setting up wifi and google account.
Thank again for the build, I'll be re-setting it up and testing it out over the next little while.
Mike T
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Mike, keep us informed on how it runs please. I want to try CM12.1 myself, or any ROM based on it for that matter. I've had no luck with any 5.1 based ROM as of yet.
EDIT: Installed it myself as well, but it looks like it may take a very long time to restore the apps. Will report back later.

Please add the download link in the op, rather than to advertise your forum.......

I just wanted to say that after a day of use I find this to be a fantastic ROM. Far too bloated for me but I can debloat it myself. It seems to be stable and fast, but no faster than freakslim. I can't wait until I can figure out how to run this at 1.6ghz then I suspect it will be faster then anything else I have ever tried.
Very good ROM. I highly recommend people try it.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Im having fc with package installer any help would be thankfull

I downloaded the 5.3.9 version (md5 matched), flashed it and lockscreen would always stay black and unlockable. I thought it was a bug, and wiped and flashed again with no gapps. Started facing constant random reboots and I could no longer boot into TWRP, it would just stay at the TWRP splash screen. Fastboot flashed various versions of TWRP but no luck. The only option I had was to flash factory image and wipe off everything.

Scorpn let me know how it runs on 1.6 if good would you think it be as stable as freakslim?
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Scorpn let me know how it runs on 1.6 if good would you think it be as stable as freakslim?
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium
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Well, I don't think any of these LP roms are stable. Freaks ROM was never really stable for me, it was just very fast, fastest ROM so far, but its based on 5.0.2. I have not found one yet that I consider stable, not LP based anyway. And is there a kernel that overclocks for use on 5.1 ROMs? I have not tried M-Kernel because he has not updated it to 5.1 yet.
I was "thinking" about trying stock 5.1, but that is almost like me trying to live without breathing. Just the word "Stock" makes me cringe....

Has anyone found a way to overclock these 5.1 based ROMs yet? I really need my 1.5 ghz or 1.6 ghz back. Thanks

SkOrPn said:
Has anyone found a way to overclock these 5.1 based ROMs yet? I really need my 1.5 ghz or 1.6 ghz back. Thanks
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Try this one [emoji6]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920628
Works great for me [emoji106]
keep calm and have a Nexus

1haumann1 said:
Try this one [emoji6]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920628
Works great for me [emoji106]
keep calm and have a Nexus
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Hmm, that is a 5.1 based kernel? Strange that the OP completely left out that most important piece of info...

It's not 5.1 based but works
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Hmm, that is a 5.1 based kernel? Strange that the OP completely left out that most important piece of info...
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Please enlighten me which piece I left out?
I have already included the local_manifest.xml for building this rom. Same as the official Resurrection_Remix ROMs, I use the CyanogenMod kernel.
My Tilapia is a daily driver. Stability and battery life is my main concern. I tried M-kernel. It did't work without modification. I felt the back cover getting hot after a while. I don't think it is good for battery life. Anyway, if you think O/C is essential, just do your own mod. It is the fun part of Android. There are already a few good kernels waiting for you to test.
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Please add the download link in the op, rather than to advertise your forum.......
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Some of you guys must be come from a wealthy region and your parents are taking really good care of you. You may get whatever you want by shouting for mummy or daddy. I came from a poor family. My father died when I was at grade school. My mother don't have the resource and education rising us to be some fat and self retarded kid who complaining for an extra mouse click. Most of the time, I have to figure out things myself.
In the real world, we can't get everything we want. We can get something if we are working hard for it. It's time to grow up.
Someone from my Tilapia thread suggested me to add a thread here. I think its a good idea but I don't want to update two separate threads with the same content. So I just included a link.
I cherish a few nice words, a thank or a report (even if it's mean) but I don't think I need this kind of virtual publicity. I would follow RR as genuine as possible, I don't think I can fulfil every need. So I just give my thread one star.

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Please enlighten me which piece I left out?
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Sorry Daniel, I wasn't talking about your OP (Your OP is fantastic), I was talking about the Bricked kernels OP not mentioning something important, but I now realize its not mentioned for a good reason. lol
Oh, and yes running 1.5ghz or 1.6ghz (my preferred mhz) as was intended by NVIDIA, (1.5 Ghz is NOT an overclock, it is the Tegra3 sweet spot and what the Engineers intended this CPU to run at), but 1.2ghz is a under-clock and can introduce unseen instabilities. Instead, if I limit the device to two cores at 1.5ghz which is all Android uses/needs anyway and using my own settings I get a device that gives me more battery life and a rom that feels twice as fast at everything. The ONLY reason it has a QUAD core cpu, is because Specs sell, even though the engineers knows that Android does not need four cores, the fact is if they introduce an 8 core device, it would greatly sell just because it has 8 cores. The Quad Spec was simply for selling more of them at the time, NOT for a performance boost. There is no reason why we can't have more stability, more battery life and more speed, I just need the settings present so I can dial that in... By the way 1.2ghz on four cores burns more power then 2 cores at 1.5ghz, but 1.5ghz on Android is faster then 1.2ghz, on my N7 anyway. So, I just prefer to utilize the cores more efficiently, that's all. This device needs more mhz, not more cores. My N7 is super stable at both 1.5 and 1.6ghz, and it is only when I try 1.7ghz that it loses any stability. All CPU's get warm when turned on (I worked for Intel for a very long time, I know this), so if I can feel the heat on the back that just tells me the Thermal Interface is working efficiently. Its not a sign that something is wrong with the device.
Anyway, I'm not a Software developer, I'm an Intel Electronics Technician by trade, so I don't want to try and build my own kernel, I get a headache if I stay at the screen too long anyway, haha. Which is why I asked if someone knew of a 5.1 based kernel that already had more settings potential. Its perfectly OK if one isn't available yet, but I can still ask around? I been here at XDA since before the Android days (Windows Mobile first brought me here) and the one thing I learned is that this place is intended for asking questions. I have hundreds of helpful posts spread out over nearly 8 years, so I "should" have the right to ask if a kernel exists that suits my device and usage patterns better. Right? :good: It was just a friendly question anyway.
Your OP is great, and your ROM is awesome Daniel. I just want to "try" and get more out of it like I did with all the previous ROMs I have used. Thanks :good:
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Try this one [emoji6]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920628
Works great for me [emoji106]
keep calm and have a Nexus
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Thanks for turning me on to that Kernel. I though it wouldnt work so I just avoided trying it. Thanks again bud :good:

SkOrPn said:
Sorry Daniel, I wasn't talking about your OP (Your OP is fantastic), I was talking about the Bricked kernels OP not mentioning something important, but I now realize its not mentioned for a good reason. lol
Oh, and yes running 1.5ghz or 1.6ghz (my preferred mhz) as was intended by NVIDIA, (1.5 Ghz is NOT an overclock, it is the Tegra3 sweet spot and what the Engineers intended this CPU to run at), but 1.2ghz is a under-clock and can introduce unseen instabilities. Instead, if I limit the device to two cores at 1.5ghz which is all Android uses/needs anyway and using my own settings I get a device that gives me more battery life and a rom that feels twice as fast at everything. The ONLY reason it has a QUAD core cpu, is because Specs sell, even though the engineers knows that Android does not need four cores, the fact is if they introduce an 8 core device, it would greatly sell just because it has 8 cores. The Quad Spec was simply for selling more of them at the time, NOT for a performance boost. There is no reason why we can't have more stability, more battery life and more speed, I just need the settings present so I can dial that in... By the way 1.2ghz on four cores burns more power then 2 cores at 1.5ghz, but 1.5ghz on Android is faster then 1.2ghz, on my N7 anyway. So, I just prefer to utilize the cores more efficiently, that's all. This device needs more mhz, not more cores. My N7 is super stable at both 1.5 and 1.6ghz, and it is only when I try 1.7ghz that it loses any stability. All CPU's get warm when turned on (I worked for Intel for a very long time, I know this), so if I can feel the heat on the back that just tells me the Thermal Interface is working efficiently. Its not a sign that something is wrong with the device.
Anyway, I'm not a Software developer, I'm an Intel Electronics Technician by trade, so I don't want to try and build my own kernel, I get a headache if I stay at the screen too long anyway, haha. Which is why I asked if someone knew of a 5.1 based kernel that already had more settings potential. Its perfectly OK if one isn't available yet, but I can still ask around? I been here at XDA since before the Android days (Windows Mobile first brought me here) and the one thing I learned is that this place is intended for asking questions. I have hundreds of helpful posts spread out over nearly 8 years, so I "should" have the right to ask if a kernel exists that suits my device and usage patterns better. Right? :good: It was just a friendly question anyway.
Your OP is great, and your ROM is awesome Daniel. I just want to "try" and get more out of it like I did with all the previous ROMs I have used. Thanks :good:
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Thanks for turning me on to that Kernel. I though it wouldnt work so I just avoided trying it. Thanks again bud :good:
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Thanks for the info!
My tab runs on max. 1.3G and it would take longer to generate the same among heat as in 1.5G. I assume that's normal.
In this case, I'll download and study the manual for Tegra3. If I can, I might add higher frequencies to the kernel's table. It seems doesn't hurt to have extra choices.
Further info. are welcome.

Harpratap said:
I downloaded the 5.3.9 version (md5 matched), flashed it and lockscreen would always stay black and unlockable. I thought it was a bug, and wiped and flashed again with no gapps. Started facing constant random reboots and I could no longer boot into TWRP, it would just stay at the TWRP splash screen. Fastboot flashed various versions of TWRP but no luck. The only option I had was to flash factory image and wipe off everything.
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I have the same problem.