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There are so many roms around there an one thing I cannot find is at a fundamental level,(user level) what do we gain out of using the hero rom rather than the regular g1 OS?
Is there a killer app that only works on hero? is the hero interface, better? majorly different? would like to know, please?
Could you really not find it, or did you not look? This isn't even remotely close to being in the correct section either..
To sum it up however, HTC's "Sense UI" that is implemented on HERO is essentially a home replacement (like openhome, ahome, etc...). It features many graphical enhancements as well as widgets that are not available on the stock android builds.
This link will tell you everything you need to know:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/epic fail/scooters61/EpicFail.jpg
Its mostly cosmetic. Everything in HERO looks better than standard ota 1.5 android. I weighed the options of running HERO ROM or Cyanogen and HERO came out on top. I just love the way HERO looks. I love it so much, that I gave up use of my blue tooth headset.
.....the only thing I can suggest is to do some research on a "proper" installation of a HERO ROM and experience it for yourself.
toxtrepla:
to the first point, yes I looked, there is no site, thread that just has that simple explanation. I'm sure it's there, it's just buried.
Point 2. yeah, your right. my thinking was this is a forum full of hero and non-hero roms, so it would be good here, but really, I could have put it elsewhere. Thank you very much for the info.
miketaylor00:
Thanks for the pic.
SG_Shadow:
Thanks for the info. I will have to check it out. as soon as I get time to clean out my sdcard.
thanks all again.
If it were only the eye candy.... What sets Hero apart is the way it integrates your social network in one place. Right now there's support for Twitter, Facebook, Flickr, Plurk, Picassa, Google, and your Exchange contacts. All of those can be merged, so say, if your friend Sally from work ([email protected]) has a twitter and facebook account, you can exchange tweets quickly and the phone will notify you they're from Sally. Also, you're out and trying to decide which pair of shoes you should get for Saturday night's ball, and you can't decide, you snap a quick picture, uploaded to your facebook (right from the camera app) and then tweet Sally to help you choose, be quick, though, your wife's almost back
@rkimbal45
What the first guy meant was you didn't look to see they have a Q&A section for what you asked, which was a question... From my point of view you have no investigative skills which led you to asking this question and not being able to find the proper place to ask it.... but hey who really post their questions in the Q&A now-a-dayz?
PS. Q&A=Questions and Answers
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This link will tell you everything you need to know:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/epic fail/scooters61/EpicFail.jpg
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There are so many roms around there an one thing I cannot find is at a fundamental level,(user level) what do we gain out of using the hero rom rather than the regular g1 OS?
Is there a killer app that only works on hero? is the hero interface, better? majorly different? would like to know, please?
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Theres an obscure little search engine website that only a few people use so i can see how you may not of searched for your answer there yet, its called !!!!!!! GOOGLE !!!!!!!.............
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Did some searching and found nothing relevant, I'm thinking because nothing like it may not exist. I have a friend who just sold his Droid x for a thunderbolt and he really liked the blur Widgets. I've been kind of talking up the HTC platform but sense isn't cutting it for him. Are there any blur like widgets anyone knows of? I didn't see anything in the market, he particularly liked the news feeds that updated on there own and let you add multiple feeds to one desktop icon.
Any suggestions are appreciated thanks all
Look in this forum and market, there are all here
Hey guys,
New user here (and a CS major), so I know a little bit about what rooting and flashing is, however have NEVER done it, so implementation wise, I'm very naive about how to do it, and I definitely don't want to mess my phone up. My first Android device was purchased in November of last year with the MyTouch 4G. Made a great decision. Decided to upgrade to a G2X just recently, got it in Friday, purchased the docks for it today (which yes, I am slightly disappointed with)....but I miss the HTC Sense ROM.
Basically I'm wondering if the HTC Sense ROM is smoother and if anybody is using it on the phone yet. Any feedback would be great. Thanks guys!
Also, is there any way to change what the "hard" buttons on the front are set to do? If I rooted it could I change what these buttons did. I'd like to use the 'genius' button that HTC has on their MyTouch 4G instead of search.
I've also read through some of the threads about rooting and flashing to a new ROM. Basically is there anything I should know being a newbie when it comes to flashing and changing the ROM on it? Any hints or tips?
Thanks again!
There are no roms for the G2x yet.
This includes steps for Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050534
Once you have root access, you can go into the Market and download "Rom Manager".
This will download and install a custom Recovery Console which allows flashing.
Again, the phone is so new, there are no available Roms available at this time. We do have Root and Recovery which is 2/3 the way there.
Again, so I'm a little new to this whole rooting stuff, so there is no HTC Sense that will work with this phone because I have found some downloads, but I'm just not sure if they would work.
Again, I'm new here, so I don't know if this is one of those things I will have to wait a while for or what...any idea based on past phones?
GSUFan513 said:
Again, so I'm a little new to this whole rooting stuff, so there is no HTC Sense that will work with this phone because I have found some downloads, but I'm just not sure if they would work.
Again, I'm new here, so I don't know if this is one of those things I will have to wait a while for or what...any idea based on past phones?
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I also love HTC Sense. It's the only thing I miss about the MyTouch 4g. I'm not sure which ROMS you are referring to, but there are no ROMS available for our phone yet, including Sense ROMS. I'd be very careful about flashing anything until you're comfortable with the steps, and lingo.
Got the G2X last week, upgraded from a virgin G1. I am also new to the root world. I have been browsing around the site here for the last couple of days. There is a wealth of information here, but it is a little overwhelming... Is there a thread/sticky/website that goes over the basics for a beginner. I apoligize in advance for being a newb.....
Thanks,
Mike
GSUFan513 said:
Again, so I'm a little new to this whole rooting stuff, so there is no HTC Sense that will work with this phone because I have found some downloads, but I'm just not sure if they would work.
Again, I'm new here, so I don't know if this is one of those things I will have to wait a while for or what...any idea based on past phones?
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you really,really,really, need to STOP, and read. not being an ass. but, you're saying you've found some downloads,yet have no idea what they are. ???? or what phone they're for. or if they'll brick your phone. the devs are working on things to make it super simple for people like you to root and install roms. do them a favor by reading. and then, read a little more. ask some questions. post them in the correct section. and take peoples advice. that's the best advice i can give you. and, read the stickies at the top of threads.
WorldWide60 said:
I also love HTC Sense. It's the only thing I miss about the MyTouch 4g. I'm not sure which ROMS you are referring to, but there are no ROMS available for our phone yet, including Sense ROMS. I'd be very careful about flashing anything until you're comfortable with the steps, and lingo.
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I actually work for T-Mobile, I feel pretty comfortable with what I'm doing, and have no qualms about flashing but I will be careful as always about it. Yeah, I REALLY miss the messaging portion and genius button of the mytouch. Would love to get those two options back....
Also about my second question, when flashed does it change the outter "hard" buttons too? For instance instead of search could I use the search button as a genius button?
snp304 said:
Got the G2X last week, upgraded from a virgin G1. I am also new to the root world. I have been browsing around the site here for the last couple of days. There is a wealth of information here, but it is a little overwhelming... Is there a thread/sticky/website that goes over the basics for a beginner. I apoligize in advance for being a newb.....
Thanks,
Mike
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In time I think there will more guides/stickies. Unfortunately for you guys, I think the majority of the people that bought a G2x came from previous phones that they were flashing, rooting, and modding. You're in the right spot. XDA is definitely the best place to learn.
GSUFan513 said:
I actually work for T-Mobile, I feel pretty comfortable with what I'm doing, and have no qualms about flashing but I will be careful as always about it. Yeah, I REALLY miss the messaging portion and genius button of the mytouch. Would love to get those two options back....
Also about my second question, when flashed does it change the outter "hard" buttons too? For instance instead of search could I use the search button as a genius button?
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so far, there's a hack to map the search button to the camera app. it works great. and the same button snaps pics if you like.
I hate HTC sense, and every other android skin for that matter, although certain tidbits of TouchWiz are nice. You won't find sense on the g2x anytime soon, it's designed for HTC phones specifically, so porting it to a different brand would be very difficult and tedious.
GSUFan513 said:
I actually work for T-Mobile, I feel pretty comfortable with what I'm doing, and have no qualms about flashing but I will be careful as always about it. Yeah, I REALLY miss the messaging portion and genius button of the mytouch. Would love to get those two options back....
Also about my second question, when flashed does it change the outter "hard" buttons too? For instance instead of search could I use the search button as a genius button?
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As was said before, there are no custom ROMs out yet. Once they start coming in, I'd ask that question to the devs so they could potentially make that an option
WorldWide60 said:
In time I think there will more guides/stickies. Unfortunately for you guys, I think the majority of the people that bought a G2x came from previous phones that they were flashing, rooting, and modding. You're in the right spot. XDA is definitely the best place to learn.
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thanks, gotta say, that I love the phone, of course coming from a virgin G1, who wouldn't. Looking forward to learning and making it even better.
Thanks for the feedback guys, I found what I was asking. Sorry if this thread was in the wrong location, I guess I'm just antsy to see some HTC Sense ROMS.
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you really,really,really, need to STOP, and read. not being an ass. but, you're saying you've found some downloads,yet have no idea what they are. ???? or what phone they're for. or if they'll brick your phone. the devs are working on things to make it super simple for people like you to root and install roms. do them a favor by reading. and then, read a little more. ask some questions. post them in the correct section. and take peoples advice. that's the best advice i can give you. and, read the stickies at the top of threads.
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Nice job not being an ass *blinks*, I HAVE read the stickies, and spent the past hour or so looking through threads, just looking for a little clarification. I didn't realize that there were different ROM for different Phones. (Thought it might be like Windows to PCs, doesn't matter on the manufacturer of the PC, you can install windows on it as long as it meets bottom end reqs) If I had understood that, I wouldn't have asked the question.
And don't act like I'm not Tech savvy. I fix computers as a side job, I'm a developer and about to graduate with a Computer Science degree from a good nationally certified university. But I haven't worked in phone development at all, so this stuff is something I'm learning about. Again, I was just asking a few questions, don't get your panties in a wad.
You wont see a sense rom anytime soon, this isnt a htc device. Return the phone and wait for the htc sensation
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sorry bout the "treating you like a newb" lol. i'm just a techie, no dev skills. you probably know more crap than me. i just see "2 posts" and questions about how to root as "oh no, this guy\girl is going to brick their phone!"lol
no offense intended. i just come off the wrong way sometimes.
huntman21014 said:
You wont see a sense rom anytime soon, this isnt a htc device. Return the phone and wait for the htc sensation
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Yea I don't think we'll see a Sense rom but anything can happen. Usually people with Sense and the Genius button go the other way (want a dedicated search and pure android)
The good thing is Sense can be replicated to a certain degree using themed launchers. There are even iPhone themed launchers. I use Launcher Pro because they have several special widgets that function and behave much like some of the Sense variants. The recent release of Launcher Pro has added themes to the mix, and are already lots of "Sense" themed Launcher Pro widgets and dock styles.
As far as the Genius button, I've never used it. I DO know that the Search key is awesome and allows searching in most apps. Also you should download "Google Voice Search" (not Google Voice, that is Visual Voicemail) and map it to a long press of the search button. Then you can just press and hold and say, "map pizza" or "call mom" or "text girlfriend hey I'm running late. see you in 30 minutes."
Hey!
Sense is not impossible, but you're probably not going to see it for a looong time if it does ever happen. HTC's software mantra is "lock-and key"-- only HTC branded phones have the correct permissions/drivers/guts in general to flash Sense ROMs. I've been waiting for one on the Vibrant since release. They got one booting, but it's far from stable and the whole project has been abandoned due to difficulty.
I second the "read, read, read" theme. Go to the vibrant or atrix or nexus s forum for example. (any comparable smart/superphone will do). Read THOSE stickies/posts/comments in alllll the sections. You have to get a feel for the lingo around here. This website comes complete with its own independent subculture. Which is unfortunately titled "geek".
I would say the most important part to learning however, is trying... and then totally ****ing it up and freaking out aaaand, since you don't want to have a $200 brick on your hands, you are forced by circumstance to learn :] As a word of encouragement, I've been from vibrant to nexus one and back and I find that even with all the ass-backwards stuff I did the first time I tried making/flashing zips/unlocking bootloaders/using fastboot for the first time etc., it's actually pretty damn hard to brick a phone beyond repair if you have half a brain.
CS major eh? Went to carnegie mellon myself. The place was full of them :] Being that the g2x has no ROMs, you're a cs major and you're most likely monetarily bound to an open source phone os for the next 2 years, why not download the android sdk and start cookin' up some ROMs yourself??? I've been told by people who do it that it's not that hard to learn. Carpe Diem my friend.
Any questions? PM me. The community around here used to be really really cool and helpful and informative. Now it kind of sucks :/
tired of being a leacher decided to finally sign up and start sharing, well today i was lurking and i found a whole dump of ICS apps (forgot were sorry) but dont worrie almost every app isnt able to work yet (they were just released last night) people are working on them.
but one app that did work was "Phonesky.apk" which is the market i just renamed it Vending.apk set the permissions with root explorer restart and it works perfect, i havent rly tested much with it, looks the same cant relly say if its faster or not. but here it is.
anyone has any useful info on this please post and if its worthy i will add it to this post
RyanFabbro said:
tired of being a leacher decided to finally sign up and start sharing, well today i was lurking and i found a whole dump of ICS apps (forgot were sorry) but dont worrie almost every app isnt able to work yet (they were just released last night) people are working on them.
but one app that did work was "Phonesky.apk" which is the market i just renamed it Vending.apk set the permissions with root explorer restart and it works perfect, i havent rly tested much with it, looks the same cant relly say if its faster or not. but here it is.
anyone has any useful info on this please post and if its worthy i will add it to this post
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The new market 3.2.0 you collected from the Rom dump was leaked few weeks ago.
There are a numbers of posts regarding this. If you haven't seen anything yet, go through the post below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297040
You really got butt-hurt over him posting this, 'ey? Relax dude. Reposts really don't make that big of a difference worth popping a blood vessel over.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
A guy that did a reposting criticized another for reposting his repost lol
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thanks guys for not flaming me except that first poster lol, i just found this and seen that the ICS package was released last night (were i found it) and i put them all on my phone and this was the only one that was any good that actually worked, i wasnt aware this was already posted and im sry for the repost but, atleast those who didnt catch it have a chance to get it from me. =P
The funny thing is, if he hadn't come in here acting like a tool bag, this thread probably would have died already and been buried. His attack on you posting the apk makes me wonder if his version is modified... Yours comes up a different size, which obviously means one of you changed something about the app before posting it. I saw someone mention in his thread that his is "different" than other market apps in some way (can't remember exactly). So his attack on you has me wondering if maybe he had tampered with it and sees yours as a threat since any one looking at both will notice there's a size difference between the two.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
Yeah, dude needs to relax. Your intention was to help. No need for all the caps. And if he's so concerned about the XDA rules, surely he knows that it's also a violation to present oneself as a mod, i.e. telling people what they can and cannot post Whenever people complain about XDA it's people like that that's always the top complaint.
I didn't intended to hurt anyone
First of all let me make it clear that, i didn't intended to hurt anyone nor try to pretend as a moderator.
I just gave an advice to the OP to search the forum before posting something.
I didn't imagine you guys put flame on me. What did i do to you guys for insulting me like this?
If you thought I was pretending as a moderator, I apologize for the same......
febycv said:
First of all let me make it clear that, i didn't intended to hurt anyone nor try to pretend as a moderator.
I just gave an advice to the OP to search the forum before posting something.
I didn't imagine you guys put flame on me. What did i do to you guys for insulting me like this?
If you thought I was pretending as a moderator, I apologize for the same......
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Honestly, I was the all caps
I appreciate the edits you've made to your original post, it's much better now. It's just that, it's good to remind people to search and show them where the matter has already been covered but we should try and be respectful and helpful about it. Your original post came across as much too harsh a response, considering that the OP was genuinly trying to be helpful.
Droidificator said:
The funny thing is, if he hadn't come in here acting like a tool bag, this thread probably would have died already and been buried. His attack on you posting the apk makes me wonder if his version is modified... Yours comes up a different size, which obviously means one of you changed something about the app before posting it. I saw someone mention in his thread that his is "different" than other market apps in some way (can't remember exactly). So his attack on you has me wondering if maybe he had tampered with it and sees yours as a threat since any one looking at both will notice there's a size difference between the two.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
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lol, yeah mines the default one from the whole ICS dump i found i still have all the ICS apps but they dont work, havent checked to see if there was a fix yet
febycv said:
First of all let me make it clear that, i didn't intended to hurt anyone nor try to pretend as a moderator.
I just gave an advice to the OP to search the forum before posting something.
I didn't imagine you guys put flame on me. What did i do to you guys for insulting me like this?
If you thought I was pretending as a moderator, I apologize for the same......
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I think the problem was two-fold. First, you used all caps for part of your post originally, which implies you're yelling, and you were aware that you used caps since only part if it was capped. Second, your avatar is off putting. It gives the air of authority (to me, anyway), which I think just amplified the use of caps lock in your original post.
Thanks for changing your post, it is much friendlier now.
But do you have an answer to why the two supposedly identical apk's are different sizes?
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
The market in my link & that of OP are both 2.5mb. So where did you noticed the size difference????
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The market in my link & that of OP are both 2.5mb. So where did you noticed the size difference????
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Yours is 2,46 MB big, his is 2,49 MB - a difference of 30 KB.
I have also noticed the size difference and, obviously, the content difference.
So I've searched all over the forums about this. I'm trying to find some skins. I'd look for themes, but those aren't so ROM-independent, from what I can tell. Or maybe I just don't know.
The whole point is, I'm trying to find something skin-like to flash. Someone else asked about it a while ago, and they were told to look in the Themes and Apps section, but there is almost nothing in there. Looked on the market, found nothing.
Is there something that makes skins really hard to make? I'm hoping to find something that'll work with the Sense 3.5 ROM's I've been using. Can anybody point me in the right direction, or maybe suggest what else I might be looking for?
Untill m10 tools are updated to support sense 3.5 im afraid there is only the HTC Skins from HTC Sense
Download HTC skin from hub extract root explorer use as template
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Simple enough answer, thank you. So basically, there is no "easy" way to make them, so they're not being made yet. That makes sense, and at least I wasn't crazy and missing them then