I'm an early adopter of the N1. My G1 will now only have wifi connectivity and I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use. I think the desire for that kind of optimization will only grow as people start replacing their first loves. I might be completely off-base, I have been up for a couple days. I'm not even sure what I want when I say optimization. But I didn't know what I wanted from custom roms when I got my first G1 and now I can't wait until Cyanogen drops his first full rom for the N1.
I see where you are comming from.. as I LOVE my G1 and at the same time lusting for the N1. I would like to have another use for the G1, something like a media center remote.. or anything.
I think this is a good idea and look forward to some of the dev responses.
You dont need a special rom for it without service. If you dont have service then phone and the like just wont work. Uninstall what you dont want. But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.
i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
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garok89 said:
i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
furthermore - wrong section
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lol.. OMG dude your sig is so right. I used to love helping people with anythign electronicall or software related... Since I joined here I realized, noone wants help... they want someone to hold their hand and do it for them. Bunch of ungreatfull spoiled brats.
Sorry, but this will get moved or deleted anyway lol
thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)
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thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)
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Classic! I love the auto-response...
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But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.
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If the device no longer needs to maintain the functionality of a phone, the door is even wider open. It could, for example, be a rom with debian cooked in, or it could be something like no6969el described.
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Really? This is not the place to discuss a certain type of rom?
I think the both of you are too closed minded.
you are asking a question, not contributing to the good of the android community
they answer is simple - yes...but pointless
i am far from close minded - i am always up for expanding the capabilities of my phone....not detracting from them like this idea
you can use the phone as a media centre remote with the aid of a simple app on the market
you can disable mobile data and use only wifi
you can reprogram the call button to do whatever you want
you can install debian/ubuntu rather easily and use it with vncviewer
all these things can already be done using stock android - nevermind having to modify it
Nothing I have said or asked has detracted from android. Asking questions has its place in development, it causes thinking. Re-purposing old gen hardware happens, sometimes with fantastic results. First generation android devices, like the G1, have many possibilities other than telephony.
I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use.
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i do believe that is asking a general question
anyway, i am not here to argue... i just feel that the original question belonged in the QnA section
I am hoping I can get step by step instructions so I can put custom roms on my HTC sensation. Do I need a new radio? S-off? Recovery? I'm a little scared but I definitely want the most out of my phone. Please be as detailed as possible and please don't assume I know anything. Thank you for your time, info, and patience.
Search. Read. There's like 10 posts like this every day.
There is a detailed sticky in the development section.
I mean seriously what more do u want? If ur scared don't do it.
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Really? Don't think that was necessary. I'm just trying to get detailed instructions. Ive searched and read. Most posts are very nice but they assume you know the basics. Just want an "front to back" if possible.
Dude seriously, there is a guide just for noobs if you search. Nobody is gonna flash it for you son.
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The guide is as detailed as possible, what else do you need? How to press a button? How long to press it?
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Wow... never mind. I have looked and looked and maybe I just haven't came across the right post. I'm trying people. Forgive me for being ignorant I guess. Guess saying please and thank you is no longer appreciated. Forget it. Geez...
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Wow... never mind. I have looked and looked and maybe I just haven't came across the right post. I'm trying people. Forgive me for being ignorant I guess. Guess saying please and thank you is no longer appreciated. Forget it. Geez...
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You asked a question which is answered at least once or twice everyday, what do you expect? On top of that there's a sticky thread on the development section which only needs copy and pasting.
Sent from my own custom Rom for sensation. 200mb free :3
2 PEOPLE JUST TOLD U WHERE TO FIND THE THREAD! ARE U SERIOUS.?!?!?
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There is a link in the development section. I followed it and did everything in about 1-2 hours. Good luck. I found that the biggest hurdle in the process was my computer detecting the phone. So if you need drivers go download the HTC Sync.
I am in need of a guide on how to go pee in the toilet in my house. Any help?
Any way, here is a good idea. If there is something that you are having a hard time understanding. Like the meaning of a word. Let's take for instance the word s-off. All you have to do is open a browser and type in Google. What is s-off. You will get a definition for it. So, go to the sticky in the forums that explains how to root and
ROM your cell. And open a separate browser and use it to understand the words that you are having a hard time knowing. I had a problem in the beginning also. I am the type of person that needs to know why and how instead of just doing what the directions plainly spell out for us. It's not that I couldn't do it without knowing why things are the way that they are. I just needed the comfort of the knowledge behind it all. And now, I am desperately trying to figure out how to become a developer. All while raising a family and working ridiculous hours. But, I have a so called smart phone. And a tablet. So, basically I have a plethora of knowledge at my finger tips at almost any time. You have to understand some people's frustration with these questions. It gets dauntingly overwhelming more and more every day. The forums are not welfare. They are not something to be taken lightly. And we are never to expect that everything should be handed to us. If some one here was to explain in absolute detail and hold your hand through the entire process. You would not learn much and you would not get the most out of your phone. You can only get the most out of it when you feel the satisfaction of knowing that you put some real time into getting it to work just so for your needs. Otherwise, you will truly not appreciate it. Also, if hand holding went on every day, then it would become an expectation of every other no dev that they deserve help. Kind of like the majority of life long welfare recipients. They get offended when it gets taken away and they feel entitled to it. I know, because I know some one that views it that way. Because things have been handed to them almost all there life. It's not cool. Now, go and read until you are confident that you can do this. It truly is a very easy thing. It seems overwhelming. But when you look back, you will say to turn self. Realty? I actually tried to get people to help me to do this? You will feel ashamed. But at the same time you will feel accomplished and will be able to possibly give back to the community in some way. Any way, that is just how I see it.
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If you put that much energy into being helpful as you just did being a jerk, maybe people like me would see how easy it really is. I've successfully flashed roms on my hd2, im just a little intimidated by the whole s-off thing so bite me. Thanks xdalite for being civilized. To everyone else, I'm a woman who is slightly hesitant to risk bricking a $400 phone. I realize everyone takes that risk, but because I only know how to do it one way, I wanted comments that were directed toward me and not on a general post. I'm not an idiot. Forgive the little people, oh wise ones.
MAn just click the Link in my signature and get to the guide. ITS NOOB PROOF!
I apologise on behalf of other users . everyone was a noob once, android, what the hell is android??? that what i said exactly 10 months ago. never used it before that, ive come a long way now!
If you follow the guide, the risks are very minimal.
Whatever u do, do not do step 5 of the guide, there is a risk of bricking, i semi-bricked but recovered.
steps 1 - 4 of my guide
i have yet to find someone who has bricked it using those steps, and i dont think u will be the first either
Thank you so very much. I'm going to try it today. Seriously ... thanks so much.
Jaytronics said:
I am in need of a guide on how to go pee in the toilet in my house. Any help?
Any way, here is a good idea. If there is something that you are having a hard time understanding. Like the meaning of a word. Let's take for instance the word s-off. All you have to do is open a browser and type in Google. What is s-off. You will get a definition for it. So, go to the sticky in the forums that explains how to root and
ROM your cell. And open a separate browser and use it to understand the words that you are having a hard time knowing. I had a problem in the beginning also. I am the type of person that needs to know why and how instead of just doing what the directions plainly spell out for us. It's not that I couldn't do it without knowing why things are the way that they are. I just needed the comfort of the knowledge behind it all. And now, I am desperately trying to figure out how to become a developer. All while raising a family and working ridiculous hours. But, I have a so called smart phone. And a tablet. So, basically I have a plethora of knowledge at my finger tips at almost any time. You have to understand some people's frustration with these questions. It gets dauntingly overwhelming more and more every day. The forums are not welfare. They are not something to be taken lightly. And we are never to expect that everything should be handed to us. If some one here was to explain in absolute detail and hold your hand through the entire process. You would not learn much and you would not get the most out of your phone. You can only get the most out of it when you feel the satisfaction of knowing that you put some real time into getting it to work just so for your needs. Otherwise, you will truly not appreciate it. Also, if hand holding went on every day, then it would become an expectation of every other no dev that they deserve help. Kind of like the majority of life long welfare recipients. They get offended when it gets taken away and they feel entitled to it. I know, because I know some one that views it that way. Because things have been handed to them almost all there life. It's not cool. Now, go and read until you are confident that you can do this. It truly is a very easy thing. It seems overwhelming. But when you look back, you will say to turn self. Realty? I actually tried to get people to help me to do this? You will feel ashamed. But at the same time you will feel accomplished and will be able to possibly give back to the community in some way. Any way, that is just how I see it.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
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Thank you so much. I know it has to be frustrating for everyone when noobs ask questions over and over and i get it, but trust me, its not laziness or ignorance, its just the will to be thorough and informed just as you mentioned. Thanks again.
I just got the MT4GS after being a long time MT4G user and I'm wondering if it is worth it to root as there is currently no CM or stable Virtuous Rom which is what I used on the MT4G. Any helpful opinions are much appreciated.
micahman said:
I just got the MT4GS after being a long time MT4G user and I'm wondering if it is worth it to root as there is currently no CM or stable Virtuous Rom which is what I used on the MT4G. Any helpful opinions are much appreciated.
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If Virtuous is what you like then I'd say yes, go for it and root. The Virtuous ROM might be in beta here in the MT4GS forums but it was smokin' fast and stable enough when I used it. I'm sure an official release is just around the corner anyway. good luck and welcome to the MT4GS family!!
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If Virtuous is what you like then I'd say yes, go for it and root. The Virtuous ROM might be in beta here in the MT4GS forums but it was smokin' fast and stable enough when I used it. I'm sure an official release is just around the corner anyway. good luck and welcome to the MT4GS family!!
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Thanks for the feedback and welcome, good enough reason for me. One thing I do like a lot on stock is the camera app, is that included in the beta or is there a flashable mod?
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Thanks for the feedback and welcome, good enough reason for me. One thing I do like a lot on stock is the camera app, is that included in the beta or is there a flashable mod?
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Yes sir, the Doubleshot camera app is included.
micahman said:
I just got the MT4GS after being a long time MT4G user and I'm wondering if it is worth it to root as there is currently no CM or stable Virtuous Rom which is what I used on the MT4G. Any helpful opinions are much appreciated.
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Root it. Then you can:
Enhance your gps ability because of the generic gps file that's coded very poorly (in fact wrongly ... T-Mo doesn't maintain a good SUPL server, and if you're not on the T-Mo network your AGPS isn't working in stock configuration...well, maybe a little, but not anything worth mentioning. )
Flash a better security update to fix the big-brotheresque HTC spy mode (htcloggers.apk). HTC released an update to patch their security hole, but they are still monitoring everything you do with the device. Flash Undeadk9's security patch to just cut them off at the knees instead, or uninstall htcloggers.apk ( and other file I can't remember at the moment )
Change your hardware key files and re-map some buttons to be more useful.
Flash custom ROMs, as you're aware...
Play with the upcoming kernel files from myself and others...( give us time to make it stable )
...and so much more!
Generally do the things with the device that you've paid for that you should be able to do. Why spend all this money on something, and only use like 60% or less of what it can do?
If you're here and posting, then you should probably just go ahead and root it. It won't be long after you've been poking around in here reading through all the things we have been/are doing with the device before you'll go for it.
Check the sticky at the top of the general section to get a good handle on where to go first and what to read through. Take the time to read through the threads ( I know they are long ) - you'll see what all the problems were that people encountered, and how they were solved. Even if you don't run into the problems, at least you'll learn a whole lot and understand your device much, much more intimately.
...and if you get stuck, we're here to help. Many of us have been through this whole process countless times before, and are willing to lend a hand - just don't post random questions in the dev section and everything will be good.
Welcome to our little corner of the XDA universe - you'll love this device!
Blue6IX said:
Root it. Then you can:
Enhance your gps ability because of the generic gps file that's coded very poorly (in fact wrongly ... T-Mo doesn't maintain a good SUPL server, and if you're not on the T-Mo network your AGPS isn't working in stock configuration...well, maybe a little, but not anything worth mentioning. )
Flash a better security update to fix the big-brotheresque HTC spy mode (htcloggers.apk). HTC released an update to patch their security hole, but they are still monitoring everything you do with the device. Flash Undeadk9's security patch to just cut them off at the knees instead, or uninstall htcloggers.apk ( and other file I can't remember at the moment )
Change your hardware key files and re-map some buttons to be more useful.
Flash custom ROMs, as you're aware...
Play with the upcoming kernel files from myself and others...( give us time to make it stable )
...and so much more!
Generally do the things with the device that you've paid for that you should be able to do. Why spend all this money on something, and only use like 60% or less of what it can do?
If you're here and posting, then you should probably just go ahead and root it. It won't be long after you've been poking around in here reading through all the things we have been/are doing with the device before you'll go for it.
Check the sticky at the top of the general section to get a good handle on where to go first and what to read through. Take the time to read through the threads ( I know they are long ) - you'll see what all the problems were that people encountered, and how they were solved. Even if you don't run into the problems, at least you'll learn a whole lot and understand your device much, much more intimately.
...and if you get stuck, we're here to help. Many of us have been through this whole process countless times before, and are willing to lend a hand - just don't post random questions in the dev section and everything will be good.
Welcome to our little corner of the XDA universe - you'll love this device!
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Wow, thank you for all the info, I am very grateful. I've noticed there are a few threads detailing how to root but can you tell me which one would be the best and most reliable? Thanks again for all the info, especially about that HTC spy stuff, I had no idea.
micahman said:
Wow, thank you for all the info, I am very grateful. I've noticed there are a few threads detailing how to root but can you tell me which one would be the best and most reliable? Thanks again for all the info, especially about that HTC spy stuff, I had no idea.
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I used theunlockr.com to root it, worked like a charm and has a video walk throu.. which I'm a big fan of. Easier to follow. but the only difference is to flash modoco cwm not revolutionary.. so you can flash undeadK9's roms.. id suggest senseless.
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I used theunlockr.com to root it, worked like a charm and has a video walk throu.. which I'm a big fan of. Easier to follow. but the only difference is to flash modoco cwm not revolutionary.. so you can flash undeadK9's roms.. id suggest senseless.
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Thanks man! Got it rooted and running senseless! So far so good!
Not to contradict Shady's advice, especially since it seems like it worked for you, but i've previously and still do recommend against going to a third party web resource outside of XDA to root the device.
The reason being is that a lot of us did everything from the information available here, and we are familiar with the processes and common problems people run into following the guides posted here in the forums.
If you post questions about problems or an issue you run into, you run the risk of slow or no support because of the unfamiliarity the majority of us here have with outside methods and resources.
I know off the top of my head I could post a helpful response to someone having a problem with a method described here. For an outside resource...i'd probably have to go look it up, maybe download somehing, and probably try the method before being able to help.
Then i'd have to dig into the code of whatever offering was in question, to ensure it wasn't doing anything I didn't want it to do before installing anything.
Ultimately, this is a lot more time and trouble then just digging into my memory or looking up a specific thread to verify something, and also probably provide a link to the specific post that addresses the problem.
I'm hitting overtime consistently on my night job, and still picking up hours at my day job, and honestly would rather commit the level of time necessary to troubleshoot an outside resource on something more personally productive, like digging deeper into kernel source or something.
Just a thought to keep in mind as you (and others in the future) wander around here. I promise that everything you need to root your phone and install custom ROMs and such is right here in the MT4GS forums. (excepting the need to go to the revolutionary resource for S-OFF).
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Cm7 just dropped like a bomb
sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
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With a follow up by Official CWM Recovery. Today was a good day.
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Blue6IX said:
Not to contradict Shady's advice, especially since it seems like it worked for you, but i've previously and still do recommend against going to a third party web resource outside of XDA to root the device.
The reason being is that a lot of us did everything from the information available here, and we are familiar with the processes and common problems people run into following the guides posted here in the forums.
If you post questions about problems or an issue you run into, you run the risk of slow or no support because of the unfamiliarity the majority of us here have with outside methods and resources.
I know off the top of my head I could post a helpful response to someone having a problem with a method described here. For an outside resource...i'd probably have to go look it up, maybe download somehing, and probably try the method before being able to help.
Then i'd have to dig into the code of whatever offering was in question, to ensure it wasn't doing anything I didn't want it to do before installing anything.
Ultimately, this is a lot more time and trouble then just digging into my memory or looking up a specific thread to verify something, and also probably provide a link to the specific post that addresses the problem.
I'm hitting overtime consistently on my night job, and still picking up hours at my day job, and honestly would rather commit the level of time necessary to troubleshoot an outside resource on something more personally productive, like digging deeper into kernel source or something.
Just a thought to keep in mind as you (and others in the future) wander around here. I promise that everything you need to root your phone and install custom ROMs and such is right here in the MT4GS forums. (excepting the need to go to the revolutionary resource for S-OFF).
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Very true. They use a lot of information found at xda to build their guides off of thou. And a video tutorial is always nice, for me anyways. but yeah.. don't expect support from theunlockr.com.
I always go their, sometimes their outdated or wrong. But still gave me a general idea and I was able to use multiple guides to give me the correct process..
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I'm glad I was able to find this thread, cause I've been wondering whether or not it would actually be worth it to root a MT4GS or not. And ya, I can agree that for the most part, rooting has more benefits than problems. And I always have gotten the same answer when asking that question about other devices, "Just root it; you'd have to be crazy not to; nothing compares to a rooted phone, etc...". So I gave in and rooted my MT3G 1.2 (w/ the headphone jack on top). After a while I noticed some definite problems: a few important features were gone, also it was impossible to update G. Maps (because of being rooted), and finally the worst scenario of all: not being possible to un-root the device. I must have tried 10 times, following the directions to the T and repeatedly getting the same failure error. I was finally able to find someone else with a similar problem who posted their solution. Tried, waited, failed. Fully bricked, I mean not even a flicker or a battery light would come on after that. Fortunately, I was able to lie to customer service and convince them to do a warranty exchange (Aeon-1, T-Mobile-0) so I got a replacement and haven't rooted since.
So I guess my point is, I'm actually scared to root my new MT4GS for the sake of potentially not being able to unroot it if need be. But, so far from what I've read it looks like it is reversable if I ever need to. I was likely considering using theunlockr.com's method due to clearly stated, and easily understood instructions. I wish I could say the same about the posts I've read @ XDA regarding rooting instructions.
-Which rooting methods are guaranteed to be un-rootable? That option is crucial, if I ever need to go back to stock or do a warranty exchange (for all those people who were gonna say "Why the hell would you ever consider unrooting?)
-So some people suggest ClockworkMod Recovery, others don't seem to care. I ask, is there any real difference between the two? And why?
-Also, which are the best/most stable roms you would suggest? Because I've done the trial and error thing before, comparing several different roms, and I never seemed to find anything worthwhile. (Also, I checked CyanogenMod's site and either I'm blind or they don't have a single rom for the MT4GS)
-I think you somewhat answer the question regarding features of the stock camera being available after rooting. But I need to know: After rooting, is the camera going to be the same as the stock one, including ALL available features (SweepShot, ClearShot HDR, Burst Shot, Macro, Night...)? And is that camera program featured within all rooted roms, or does it have to be installed seperately?
-And ditto that question in regards to G-Maps.
-And finally this may seem like a n00b question, but I've still never gotten a clear answer: How/When can a Nandroid Backup be performed? I know that it would be a safety precaution in case I ever f*cked up my device and needed to restore, but I've never been able to find clear, accurate, and relevant instructions on how to nandroid backup or even nandroid restore.
So I apologize for asking so many questions, especially since I imagine they seem redundant and novice. However, I have rooted phones before so I'm not a complete n00b; I'm just trying to be VERY thorough this time around, to avoid any potential for error. Thank you in advance for your time.
-Colton
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I'm glad I was able to find this thread, cause I've been wondering whether or not it would actually be worth it to root a MT4GS or not. And ya, I can agree that for the most part, rooting has more benefits than problems. And I always have gotten the same answer when asking that question about other devices, "Just root it; you'd have to be crazy not to; nothing compares to a rooted phone, etc...". So I gave in and rooted my MT3G 1.2 (w/ the headphone jack on top). After a while I noticed some definite problems: a few important features were gone, also it was impossible to update G. Maps (because of being rooted), and finally the worst scenario of all: not being possible to un-root the device. I must have tried 10 times, following the directions to the T and repeatedly getting the same failure error. I was finally able to find someone else with a similar problem who posted their solution. Tried, waited, failed. Fully bricked, I mean not even a flicker or a battery light would come on after that. Fortunately, I was able to lie to customer service and convince them to do a warranty exchange (Aeon-1, T-Mobile-0) so I got a replacement and haven't rooted since.
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Sorry to hear that didn't work out so well. I think you'll find that your MT4GS experience will be a lot better.
Check the link to my backup thread in my signature. Read through it, and feel free to ask any questions in that thread you may have. I or another will be happy to help you clear them up.
Link: Backups - After Rooting, before ROMing, take this step
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So I guess my point is, I'm actually scared to root my new MT4GS for the sake of potentially not being able to unroot it if need be. But, so far from what I've read it looks like it is reversable if I ever need to. I was likely considering using theunlockr.com's method due to clearly stated, and easily understood instructions. I wish I could say the same about the posts I've read @ XDA regarding rooting instructions.
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Yea, everything tends to happen first here, so trying to keep it all organized as things change and develop is difficult at times, much too convoluted at others.
Basically, you need to take your bootloader from S-ON to S-OFF. Do this with the Revolutionary exploit. It installs CWM 4.0.0.8 during the process.
Then you need to make a nandroid backup. (see my backup thread)
Then you should upgrade to the official Clockworkmod Recovery, replacing 4.0.0.8 that was installed with the S-OFF exploit. The version is 5.0.2.7
Dev section link for the official CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329160
Once you do that, you should already have the superuser.apk you need for rooting that you found when you got the Revolutionary S-OFF tools. You can either have done it then, or now.
I'd wait until after getting the official CWM first, simply because that makes your first nandroid backup as fresh as it can be. It's up to you when you do it.
And that's basically it.
You now have a stock, rooted phone that you can start to play with. I'd say play with it for a little while on the stock ROM before switching to another, that way you'll get a feel for what you gain or lose, and if the various trade-offs are worth it.
Before doing any of that stuff, though, read through this thread:
Read this before posting. MT4G Slide Compendium
That will get you a little more familiar with the terminology, and provide helpful links to start exploring what you need to know.
Also read as much of this thread as you can stand:
S-OFF for Retail (S-ON) Devices, NOTE ADDED 8/17/11
This S-OFF for retail is the thread that officially announced the Revolutionary exploit for S-OFF here. The links in the OP will take you to where you need to go to get it.
If you get through that one, then this is a follow up:
PERMANENT-ROOT (NEW!) & Temp-Root (v2) for any MT4GS (Windows)
The temp-root thread is a bit confusing, because before we got S-OFF you could root the phone until you rebooted it. Once the Revolutionary S-OFF method was out, this thread also ran tandem with the official announcement thread. Because it was also dealing with temp root, it led to a lot of confusion.
There is some really good info in that thread, but I recommend reading the official release thread first. It'll make more sense that way, and you may not even have to check the temp-root thread.
(again, this lends to the evolving nature of what we're learning here - hard to keep it organized as it grows.)
Also, this thread: How To Turn S-Off, Install MoDaCo Clockworkmod Recovery, and Install a Rom For Dummie
Was written as a summary on how to get S-OFF and Root, because of how convoluted and looong the two previously mentioned threads got.
Once you hit this point, you're basically set.
My next move would be to install busybox, which you can find in the market, then immediately flash the Security patch to fix a glaring security flaw created by HTC.
At this point i'd make another nandroid backup.
@eon said:
-Which rooting methods are guaranteed to be un-rootable? That option is crucial, if I ever need to go back to stock or do a warranty exchange (for all those people who were gonna say "Why the hell would you ever consider unrooting?)
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They are all un-rootable, but once you go from S-ON to S-OFF that's a one-way trip. Several people have reported exchanging their devices after returning to stock with an S-OFF bootloader without issue.
This is returning to T-Mobile, though, it's questionable if HTC will accept a return directly of a device with an S-OFF bootloader.
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-So some people suggest ClockworkMod Recovery, others don't seem to care. I ask, is there any real difference between the two? And why?
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As mentioned, upgrade to the official Clockworkmod recovery as soon as possible. From here on out it will be the only supported recovery.
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-Also, which are the best/most stable roms you would suggest? Because I've done the trial and error thing before, comparing several different roms, and I never seemed to find anything worthwhile. (Also, I checked CyanogenMod's site and either I'm blind or they don't have a single rom for the MT4GS)
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I'm working on releasing the updated version of Bulletproof right now, actually, and you'll like that one. Should be out in a day or so. The original developer is moving on and is handing it off to me.
I've just spent the last....dunno how long working at it, and needed to take 5 and clear my head. Cruised through the XDA MT4GS forums as i'm winding down for a break, and you caught me at a good time to give a response.
CM7 just got officially put on hold, but with your interest in the camera you probably wouldn't have gone for that right away. It's an alpha release, and we are very excited to have official CM support for the device, but since Ice Cream Sandwich ( Android 4.0 ) source code was just released, the CM team is focusing on that and it's likely to be a while before the CM7 for our phone sees an update.
Honestly, i'm more excited that they are focusing so exculsively on Ice Cream Sandwich, because that means a lot more for all the phones and devices beyond just our own version of CM7.
I'll leave other ROM recommendations to others who will surely come through here and tell you more about them.
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-I think you somewhat answer the question regarding features of the stock camera being available after rooting. But I need to know: After rooting, is the camera going to be the same as the stock one, including ALL available features (SweepShot, ClearShot HDR, Burst Shot, Macro, Night...)? And is that camera program featured within all rooted roms, or does it have to be installed seperately?
-And ditto that question in regards to G-Maps.
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Pretty much all of the ROMs will support both the Camera app (in its entirety, included in the ROM) and Google maps.
The alpha port of CM7 is the only one (pretty sure) that doesn't support the camera, because the camera is tied into the sense frameworks. CM7 has no Sense components to it, and it was stated very clearly in the thread that it never will. The CM team and their ROM is worth losing the camera app over to a lot of people, and they are the lone exception to the "no camera app" stigma.
Keeping the camera app is one of the things that has been driving development around here, and very few people were willing to use or invest time in making a ROM that would exclude it.
I should take this time to point out that the stock gps configurations are, well, flat out wrong. Misconfigured, and it doesn't work well.
Myself and another developer independently spent a lot of time working on fixing this issue, and when we realized what each other were doing we also realized that we had the piece of the puzzle the other needed to make it work.
We released a collaboration that solved the problem, which you can find here: GPS lock too long or not at all? Try this
If you want to know how my half of the puzzle works, that thread will explain it in almost excrutiating detail. I recommend my patch over the other developers, as he is no longer with us and I will only be continuing support in my thread.
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-And finally this may seem like a n00b question, but I've still never gotten a clear answer: How/When can a Nandroid Backup be performed? I know that it would be a safety precaution in case I ever f*cked up my device and needed to restore, but I've never been able to find clear, accurate, and relevant instructions on how to nandroid backup or even nandroid restore.
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Just cruise through my backup thread. Post 1 is an adb method, post 2 is the nandroid method. If you have any questions, post them in that thread and help us try to maintain some kind of order (hah!)
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So I apologize for asking so many questions, especially since I imagine they seem redundant and novice. However, I have rooted phones before so I'm not a complete n00b; I'm just trying to be VERY thorough this time around, to avoid any potential for error. Thank you in advance for your time.
-Colton
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Honestly, don't ever worry about asking too many or too long of a question, as long as you don't post the question itself as a new thread in the development section of the MT4GS forums.
I'm sorry to hear it took such a bad experience for you to become as cautious as you are, but now that you're long past it you are much better off.
I'd much rather see someone ask questions, read some stuff, ask more questions, and then act on knowledge then just go and do and then say "I broke it, what do I do".
I'm happy to help either way, but if the information is there already then reading it before you start is much better then retroactively. Save the "how do I fix it" for uncharted territory learning things that aren't already common knowledge.
Again, part of the problem is that information is so convoluted because we keep adding to it as we learn new things. You can't really structure it before you know what it's going to be.
Myself and a few others have been trying to put effort into organizing things, but it's really a monumental task and i'd like to develop new things more so then catalogue what we already know. It's a crappy balance, but I try to put equal time to developing and organizing/answering questions.
I hope this helped you out some, I know I didn't completely cover it all but it should give you some things to chew on and help you sift through the data by spending more time on the relevant parts. Even then it's still a lot that you should know.
Don't be afraid to ask questions, one of the reasons I go into such depth is because people can correct me precisely where i'm wrong if I am about something.
You learn more when you're willing to admit you don't know something, then to pretend you do for whatever reason. Asking the right questions depends on being honest about what you do and don't know with yourself, so fire away.
I've got to get outside for a few minutes, then get back into coding, but someone else will come along and add to this soon enough.
Take care!
Well I definitely very much appreciate your prompt, and very detailed response to my many questions. I've been reading over what you've written plus the links over the past day. The main issue I have is digging through each thread looking for relevant information, while trying not to get sucked into each and every tangent post/link/info. I lost track of how many hours I've wasted reading irrelevant info which I initially thought actually had something to do with what I was after. And now a day later, I have my desk covered in reference notes (which are no longer comprehensible) and I'm more confused than I was before.
There are plenty of issues I have with forums in general. First of which being, organization seldom exists. Its like going into a library with a single question about 'how to change a tire', and leaving with 15 random, heavy books on quantum theory and black-matter, because apparently someone implied they were somehow related (I'm referring to other people, not you). Discouraging to say the least. I thought this would be more black-and-white; more simple. When 'Android' was new, rooting was simple (less ways to re-invent the wheel).
I'm walking away from this for now. The headache isnt worth it (I literally feel like I got skull-f*cked by god himself). But thank you for your help and feedback.
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I just got the MT4GS after being a long time MT4G user and I'm wondering if it is worth it to root as there is currently no CM or stable Virtuous Rom which is what I used on the MT4G. Any helpful opinions are much appreciated.
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Yes it is DEFINITELY worth it... Root away my friend and welcome to the MT4GS family. This phones kicks ass and we are expanding every day like wildfire
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium
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I'm walking away from this for now. The headache isnt worth it (I literally feel like I got skull-f*cked by god himself). But thank you for your help and feedback.
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Hah, yea, XDA is like that all over - just the nature of the beast.
This is not the quick-answer type of home, yet from a developers point of view there is no better place on the internet for android/phone development information and help.
It really does all start here, and the journey of discovery is much more prized and worthwhile then the actual end result. In that respect the way XDA is, is the way it should be.
Sometimes the best way to come to grips with something is to forget about it for a little while. Let your mind work it over running in the background, and when you bring it back into focus you'll have a better hold on what you need, and what you still have to learn.
Again, feel free to ask any questions you may have and we'll do the best we can to get you set in the right direction.
Ya, it was like mass overload the other day; it was like trying to make a PBJ sandwhich, then realizing I have to bake my own bread from scratch, grind up peanuts into butter, and somehow pick my own berries for jam, etc...
Anyways, I read over some of those topics again and some of it makes a little more sense. But still, some of those threads are so damn long, Im not gonna read each and every post from top to bottom of the thread, at least not yet. But the main issue I've realized is definitely going to be a problem is the fact that turning S-Off is irreversible. There is absolutely no method of turning S-On after its been turned off, which doesnt seem to make any sense; I figure, if you are able to flip a light-switch on, its only obvious you should be able to flip the switch off. So why is the 'S-Off' method a one-way path? And is this problem going to be fixed?
I read a bunch of articles and tutorials on 'unrooting' the MT4GS, and each one says that it will change the phone back to the stock factory condition it was in before rooting. Of course, once I scroll down and keep reading comments, everyone says that there isnt a way to turn "S-ON". SO, how the hell would someone be able to root their phone while still ever having the option to do a warranty exchange? Unrooting is great cause it gets you most the way there. But I've been reading that when T-Mobile recieves the phone, they send it to HTC for inspection/repair, and thats where they look at all the software/firmware/h-boot/recovery/S-ON Versions to make sure they are at factory specs. So once again, even though it is possible to "unroot" the MT4GS if need be, it still impossible to fully go back to factory standard (which is exactly what I was worried about).
Thats ****ty cause I was actually willing and ready to start rooting via theunlockr.com's method (cause its a hell of a lot easier than any tutorial in these forums, it does it the same way, its just easier to understand). BUT, that S-ON/S-OFF snafu is enough for me to reconsider. As I'm sure there are tons of benefits to rooting and therefore I may not ever want to unroot, I still may need to for the sake of the warranty exchange. And believe me when I say that I NEED to have the ability to exchange; I've had to exchange the MT4GS 5 times within 3 consecutive weeks because each one I recieved in the mail had some physical manufacturer defects. And since the most recent replacement is a refurb, I need to leave that Warranty-Door open in case I need to exchange.... again.
By the way, I forgot why S-Off was required in the first place. Is it possible to remain rooted without S-Off???
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Ya, it was like mass overload the other day; it was like trying to make a PBJ sandwhich, then realizing I have to bake my own bread from scratch, grind up peanuts into butter, and somehow pick my own berries for jam, etc...
Anyways, I read over some of those topics again and some of it makes a little more sense. But still, some of those threads are so damn long, Im not gonna read each and every post from top to bottom of the thread, at least not yet. But the main issue I've realized is definitely going to be a problem is the fact that turning S-Off is irreversible. There is absolutely no method of turning S-On after its been turned off, which doesnt seem to make any sense; I figure, if you are able to flip a light-switch on, its only obvious you should be able to flip the switch off. So why is the 'S-Off' method a one-way path? And is this problem going to be fixed?
I read a bunch of articles and tutorials on 'unrooting' the MT4GS, and each one says that it will change the phone back to the stock factory condition it was in before rooting. Of course, once I scroll down and keep reading comments, everyone says that there isnt a way to turn "S-ON". SO, how the hell would someone be able to root their phone while still ever having the option to do a warranty exchange? Unrooting is great cause it gets you most the way there. But I've been reading that when T-Mobile recieves the phone, they send it to HTC for inspection/repair, and thats where they look at all the software/firmware/h-boot/recovery/S-ON Versions to make sure they are at factory specs. So once again, even though it is possible to "unroot" the MT4GS if need be, it still impossible to fully go back to factory standard (which is exactly what I was worried about).
Thats ****ty cause I was actually willing and ready to start rooting via theunlockr.com's method (cause its a hell of a lot easier than any tutorial in these forums, it does it the same way, its just easier to understand). BUT, that S-ON/S-OFF snafu is enough for me to reconsider. As I'm sure there are tons of benefits to rooting and therefore I may not ever want to unroot, I still may need to for the sake of the warranty exchange. And believe me when I say that I NEED to have the ability to exchange; I've had to exchange the MT4GS 5 times within 3 consecutive weeks because each one I recieved in the mail had some physical manufacturer defects. And since the most recent replacement is a refurb, I need to leave that Warranty-Door open in case I need to exchange.... again.
By the way, I forgot why S-Off was required in the first place. Is it possible to remain rooted without S-Off???
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not permanently. you'd have to temp-root every time you reboot.
Revolutionary is about the easiest way to root a phone in existence so I'm not sure why you're so scared... assuming you have adb working, it's literally as easy as plugging your phone in and opening a single file in the Revolutionary zip archive. everything is done for you. as long as you don't download their faulty recovery (it will ask you if you want to... just say no), it's literally the easiest rooting method available that I've ever seen.
don't make it too complicated. I certainly believe in having all of your bases covered, especially when it comes to potentially screwing up a $500 bundle of plastic, metal and silicone, but rooting is not a big deal anymore.
many people will tell you that they have received warranty replacements after sending in S-OFF/rooted phones. my best guess would be that HTC/Tmo randomly pick phones to "thoroughly check" and the majority don't receive this type of treatment.. and even if they find a rooted device, there's no telling whether or not they will deny your replacement.
I received a warranty replacement (faulty hardware buttons, the leds never turned off) for my gal's rooted MT4GS simply by installing the stock rom and recovery, but still with Revolutionary's hboot installed. No issues whatsoever. I'm not saying it's "right" and I'm not guaranteeing you the same result, just offering my first-hand experience.
here's how you can obtain perma-root and s-off in ~10 minutes. no complicated guides:
www.revolutionary.io
download installer, enter serial # to get your code.
open archive and find the installer... let it run.
when it's done, you'll be rooted and s-off with a custom hboot. say "no" to the download recovery option and manually flash the official CWM recovery, or modaco's 4.0.0.9 recovery image. (either should be fine, although roms are going to start coming out that may have issues with the 4.0.0.9 modaco recovery so cwm is probably your best bet)
if not being able to flip the S-OFF switch back to S-ON at this point is something you can't get over, this isn't for you. personally, I spent $500 on this phone and I'm going to do whatever the hell I want to it, and if TMO and HTC have a problem with that, I will happily take my business elsewhere.
Its not rooting that I'm worried about, its the possibility of having to do (yet another) warranty exchange and being caught sending back a warranty-void device. And since I just found out that my premium phone insurance extends my warranty for an indefinite amount of time, I imagine that i will undoubtedly be exchanging this phone sometime in the future. I can only hope that by then either the S-Off thing has been fixed or T-Mobile announces they no longer care. I can see both happening, honestly.
Rooting is going to be the easy part, if/when I decide to do it. The last things I havent yet figured out are:
-Which Rom(s) I'm going to try. When I compare most roms side by side, they all seem vaguely identical. I remember Cyanogen having the option of fully customized visual aspects/themes, as well as tons of settings/features that werent offered through other roms. But the problem with CM is that, as you said before, the several camera options/modes in the stock rom are not being used by CM. I'm looking for a rom that is, above all, stable; lightweight/fast; includes all camera features of stock rom; and if apps like gmaps wont be included, I'd like to be able to find something that is comparable, or even better if possible. If not, I really hope the market allows gmaps to be installed on a rooted device (a while back on my rooted phone, the install of gmaps would always fail) Also, you had mentioned that you were nearing completion of a Rom of your own, so I might read up on that as well.
-I read up on that article on micro sd cards regarding speed comparisons, so I ended up running the benchmark app on my pc and found that my SanDisk 8bg Class 4 was (apparently) faster than my currently used Samsung 16gb Class 2, which sucks cause I like having more space than I use. But anyways it got me thinking, I realize that speed is important for file-transfers and also running apps that have been moved to the sd, but I could have sworn I remember someone talking about how they had rooted and then installed their OS/Rom onto their SD card instead of the phone itself. I dont know if I read that wrong or not. And if that was accurate, then I want to know if there is truly any benefit from doing that or not.
-Also, in regards to sd cards, I remember last year when I had a rooted MT3G with Amon Ra's recovery, there was an option to throw in partitions. Almost everyone I talked with on here told me to add a partition. Then after a few updates to the recovery, I noticed new options in the partition section: Ext.2, Ext.3, and Ext.4 as well as the options to select the partition size and "swap" size. I never did understand what exactly the difference (if any) between "Ext.2, Ext. 4.... etc" was.
And as far as the "swap" size, I remember there being a LOT of debate over what exactly this number should be. Some people started suggesting outrageously high numbers, while others explicitly explained to not do that, because apparently the lower the number the faster it becomes. Ok, so if thats the basic concept, great. But I still never did find any reliable information regarding "swap" size.
So ya, those are the final questions/issues that have been bugging me. Any advice/help is greatly appreciated.
Hi all. I'm jumping over to this forum due to the fact my vibrant finally died on me : ( So I picked up the new mytouch, which brings me to the question....can I root and apply custom roms using the same methods as the slide...? I haven't seen anywhere about mods for this Ph I'm assuming cause its new. the new mytouch has potential and I definitely need to get rid of this horrible bloatware. Thanks in advance for any help.
you mean the htc glacier? despite the looks it's a totally different phone and you should head over to its specific forum...
or perhaps you meant the mytouch by lg... then you are out of luck afaik
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you mean the htc glacier? despite the looks it's a totally different phone and you should head over to its specific forum...
or perhaps you meant the mytouch by lg... then you are out of luck afaik
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No I just picked up the lg mytouch 4g not the HTC glacier.
Here you go. :3
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Here you go. :3
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Thx. That's what I was doing wrong. I was leaving out the "lg." Wow.
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
Richard Rahl said:
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
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Your fine pal. We're here to help you. congratulations on your first smartphone being an Android!!!
Sent from my ICS Splashed using Tapatalk
Richard Rahl said:
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
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i'd suggest you don't mess with stuff you don't need/don't know... there's a lot of technical stuff to know and you not knowing basically anything but wanting to unlock root and flash is the perfect recipe for some regrettable actions.
just get an unlock code for about 10 bucks and you're all set...
Richard Rahl said:
Hi,
I'm a n00b. Sorry.
I'm buying my very first smartphone. I've had a nokia or samsung flipphone for the past 8 years...simple phones. just call, text etc etc...didn't even bother taking pictures, WHEN i could figure out HOW.
Anyway, so the phone is the T-MOBILE MYTOUCH 4G (WHITE) by LG.
This is the closest forum I could find...so mods/staff, PLEASE don't ban me or fine me for the questions here...
I see the above posts about rooting.
Well first I want to UNLOCK my phone so I can take it to Europe...blah blah blah. I realise that I will have to pay some stupid 10+$ fee to get the unlock code...I have til Tuesday to endlessly google on a way to do it free...before my phone arrives.
Ok, I don't know what a ROM is or what ROOTING does for me...but I assume it's good...can someone PLEASE HELP ME...and is rooting this mytouch 4g white phone by LG a good idea?
Thanks so much in advance!
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No devotional chant for you, "Lord Rahl."
Seriously, download this guide. Read it. Love it.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Your fine pal. We're here to help you. congratulations on your first smartphone being an Android!!!
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Thank you
Braccoz said:
i'd suggest you don't mess with stuff you don't need/don't know... there's a lot of technical stuff to know and you not knowing basically anything but wanting to unlock root and flash is the perfect recipe for some regrettable actions.
just get an unlock code for about 10 bucks and you're all set...
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Thank you & I respect where you are coming from. I know I don't know anything about the Android world...I certainly didn't want an iPHONE as I don't like anything Apple...I'm a PC guy. I like to know what's going on when I'm working on a computer..NOT have it done for me Love the learning curve.
To further explain...I am assuming by rooting the phone I can upgrade the OS to the 4.0 Android system?...is that possible? From what I understand I'd only have the 2.2 that's already given...it's 2 point something IF I recall correctly.
IDEALLY, I'd have loved to have had a WebOS phone...but alas, HP farked it up and discontinued their products this past year...ah well.
So yes, still interested in rooting my phone to customise things
ALSO, since I'm getting this phone...I've read in many parts how people replace panels on the phone so they don't see the T-Mobile (for example) logo on the phone...etc etc...what do you folks suggest? What would be the best protection device for this phone? (I just found out a little while ago that UPS is delivering it 1 day early! Sometime today...so I should have it in my hands tonight when I get home from work...) I'm so excited!!
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No devotional chant for you, "Lord Rahl."
Seriously, download this guide. Read it. Love it.
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I love devotional chants Where's my Kahlan or Cara when I need one!!! hahaha
Will check out your links and reply tonight when I get home! Thanks buddy!
Richard Rahl said:
Thank you
Thank you & I respect where you are coming from. I know I don't know anything about the Android world...I certainly didn't want an iPHONE as I don't like anything Apple...I'm a PC guy. I like to know what's going on when I'm working on a computer..NOT have it done for me Love the learning curve.
To further explain...I am assuming by rooting the phone I can upgrade the OS to the 4.0 Android system?...is that possible? From what I understand I'd only have the 2.2 that's already given...it's 2 point something IF I recall correctly.
IDEALLY, I'd have loved to have had a WebOS phone...but alas, HP farked it up and discontinued their products this past year...ah well.
So yes, still interested in rooting my phone to customise things
ALSO, since I'm getting this phone...I've read in many parts how people replace panels on the phone so they don't see the T-Mobile (for example) logo on the phone...etc etc...what do you folks suggest? What would be the best protection device for this phone? (I just found out a little while ago that UPS is delivering it 1 day early! Sometime today...so I should have it in my hands tonight when I get home from work...) I'm so excited!!
I love devotional chants Where's my Kahlan or Cara when I need one!!! hahaha
Will check out your links and reply tonight when I get home! Thanks buddy!
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If you're looking for some high-performance ROMs, head over to RootzWiki and check out Undeadk9's work.
Sent via smoke signal.
As I come through the slyph for a quick breath of fresh air...I must report that I just finished reading the 25page manifest that you asked me to read/download...thanks for that. Was a good read.
NOW you mention ROM's...it was briefly touched upon in the PDF file...do I understand this to mean I need to use a ROM to customise the operating system?
Ok...let's do this step-by-step if you can bear with me PLEASE.
At some point I'm supposed to be getting my phone TODAY...it hasn't arrived yet, even though UPS says online that they did. After a few frustrating calls, it turns out the "loaner" driver cheated the system by saying he delivered it when he never did...
AFTER I get my phone, of course I need to get acclimated to it. Should I assume that I must UNLOCK it first by paying some 10$ fee online?...and THEN going on to ROOT the phone?
I just checked, and it turns out my phone is shipping with 2.2...these days I hear Ice Cream is the new flavour (4.0)...which is what I'd like it to get upgraded to..and from there start getting apps that I know I'll use...like an RSS feed app to find out WHEN something is available on the net...(as an example).
Look forward to hearing from you sir! Thanks again for being kind enough to respond and putting up with this n00b
Richard Rahl said:
As I come through the slyph for a quick breath of fresh air...I must report that I just finished reading the 25page manifest that you asked me to read/download...thanks for that. Was a good read.
NOW you mention ROM's...it was briefly touched upon in the PDF file...do I understand this to mean I need to use a ROM to customise the operating system?
Ok...let's do this step-by-step if you can bear with me PLEASE.
At some point I'm supposed to be getting my phone TODAY...it hasn't arrived yet, even though UPS says online that they did. After a few frustrating calls, it turns out the "loaner" driver cheated the system by saying he delivered it when he never did...
AFTER I get my phone, of course I need to get acclimated to it. Should I assume that I must UNLOCK it first by paying some 10$ fee online?...and THEN going on to ROOT the phone?
I just checked, and it turns out my phone is shipping with 2.2...these days I hear Ice Cream is the new flavour (4.0)...which is what I'd like it to get upgraded to..and from there start getting apps that I know I'll use...like an RSS feed app to find out WHEN something is available on the net...(as an example).
Look forward to hearing from you sir! Thanks again for being kind enough to respond and putting up with this n00b
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Alright now I would love to help you out sir.
Let us clarify that you are purchasing the mytouch 4G by LG, not the htc mytouch 4g slide. And not the htc mytouch 4g.
I do not believe there is a very extensive development happening for the lg phone because it is a new copycat of the original mt4g. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
While the specs are rather similar, the internal workings of the phone, firmware, kernel, roms... Are most likely written completely differently.
Do not expect to be able to use anything you find in these forums. Nor the mytouch 4g (glacier) forums.
Sorry I believe you don't have a choice but to pay for the unlock code they provide. I'm not even sure you will be able to root that phone without directions made directly for that phone. Nothing in the mt4gs forums will be compatible.
You've got a chance in the glacier forums but I recommend asking around before you start messing with your lg phone, or risk bricking the phone.
Even if you are getting the lg 4g slider, its not even using the 1.2 ghz dual core processor. The specs are still closer to the mt4g either way, not the mt4gs
Edit: sadly I do not expect your phone to get an ota update for android 4.0, for a very long time if ever. Hopefully you get some luck and a community of people with your device have accumulated somewhere so that some development starts happening for you to try out newer versions of android... But when that does happen, odds are that the roms for your phone will be unstable because of the small community inevitably not having enough developers. I recommend always using the stock rom, if you want to enjoy top of the line technology, get the mt4gs, or maybe a better phone that will definitely get an official cyanogen mod 9, or is sold stock with android 4.0.
All that being said. Your purchase was not bad, spec wise. But if you are looking for aftermarket technology to make the phone 5x better, trade for a different phone.
The beauty of having an android phone is that it is open source. With aftermarket roms, you can push any phone to its limits and get the most out of what you paid for.
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^ thank you for that. I'm not much into the (no offence) "geeky" side of all these ROMs and CUSTOMISATIONS...don't get me wrong...I'd love to get the most of this. I bought this phone, because it was cheap...that's the ONLY reason. I did NOT see a reason to pay hundreds upon hundreds for the current top-of-the-line phone. Just wanted a decent phone that did nice things for free or very close to it. I had been holding off for a very long time on getting a smartphone...this is my INTRO to your world. I signed a 2-year contract extension with T-Mobile.
IN the meantime, I shall be monitoring these pages and hopefully MOST of you beautiful geeks will scream "this phone is a must-have"...and THEN I'll shell out the bucks for a phone I could easily replace with what I have now.
I feel I want to spend money on a phone that will actually be GREAT for 2 years...ideally, that's when I feel personally I should upgrade to the next latest & greatest.
Yes this is the mytouch by LG...NOT the slide. It's got a black face, white back...3 "home" buttons on bottom.
MY misdelivered phone from yesterday thanks to a stupid UPS Driver, found its way into my hands this morning @ 6am while getting in my car...a great neighbour of mine knew when I left the house and walked my missing package over. So today of course I need to get jiggy with my phone and see how everything works, before I even think of UNLOCKING the phone
I shall keep you apprised and thanks again for the above information...it was VERY helpful...some of your words of course are "foreign" to me, so I'll keep asking these very "dumb" questions...i hope you all can put up with it for a bit. Til this evening after I finish my work -day...ciao.
^upon purchasing this phone I was almost as clueless as you. But the reason I chose mt4gs is that it is futureproof. 1.2 dual core processor will run android 4.0 beautifully.
Since I purchased the phone I've been on these forums checking up on things atleast once a day if not 5x a day just so I'm up to date on things. It kind of gets addicting when everyone is trying to contribute their 2 cents to make the phone the best that it could be
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leoilios said:
^upon purchasing this phone I was almost as clueless as you. But the reason I chose mt4gs is that it is futureproof. 1.2 dual core processor will run android 4.0 beautifully.
Since I purchased the phone I've been on these forums checking up on things atleast once a day if not 5x a day just so I'm up to date on things. It kind of gets addicting when everyone is trying to contribute their 2 cents to make the phone the best that it could be
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The op has a mytouch 4g from lg, not the slide.