Coming from BlackBerry, I have gotten worried several times already with my new Evo.
In my former Blackberry, also with Sprint, you sent me an email and before three seconds (specially on my Hotmail account) I would feel my Blackberry vibrating already. It was blazing amazing.
On my Evo, I have my email set to sync every 5 minutes, which is the max allowed by the settings. It's set for 5 minutes peak and not peak, and the 7 days of the week.
Last night at 11:30pm I received an email sent at 7pm. The time stamp on the email was 7pm, the email was received at 11:30pm. I saw it because I manually synchronized, otherwise..... This would have never happened with the BlackBerry (who own their own email servers, which have no equal, now I see).
4 hours 30 minutes is not acceptable. This is the worst example, but not the only one. Some of them took 2 hours, some 10 minutes, and about 75% are on time.
The sync is not working every 5 minutes as it should. It's like it just dies out. I have a strong 3G signal, so signal is not the issue.
My phone is still virgin (stock).
Exactly the same is going on with the Weather widget, it wasn't sync-ing, but now the sync settings grayed out on me. I can't even change the settings. The weather application works for me only when I manually sync, yesterday morning it was raining and there was a huge shining sun on my screen, so it's not accu---rate. This noon I still had a full moon on my screen.
I wonder what's going on.
K9 mail brah
Thanks. Installing k9Mail now....
Did u try exchange settings ?
It should push mail s instantly..
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Did u try exchange settings ?
It should push mail s instantly..
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no, but I'll try... thanks!
Any change you use a gmail account? The gmail app sends a notification as soon as the e-mail is received, just like the blackberry. If not, perhaps you should forward your e-mails (from hotmail) to a gmail account and bypass the 5 minute syncing issue.
Also, if you're using a task killer, be sure you have your e-mails apps listed as "ignore" otherwise you might kill the syncing and automatic updating.
To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
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To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
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email app in andorid has to be refined more, especially push and sync.
I do get into some issues at times, but with froyo , hopefully its going to be solved.
( so far the best sync option for email for me has been my jaibrokeb iphone . no flames please. i am not an apple fanboy and i have never used blackberry )
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Any change you use a gmail account? The gmail app sends a notification as soon as the e-mail is received, just like the blackberry. If not, perhaps you should forward your e-mails (from hotmail) to a gmail account and bypass the 5 minute syncing issue.
Also, if you're using a task killer, be sure you have your e-mails apps listed as "ignore" otherwise you might kill the syncing and automatic updating.
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Hi, thanks. Yes, I have a gmail account but that''s the one I just created for the market application. I have had that Hotmail account for about 10 years or more... That one worked perfectly with BBerry. I installed K-9 Mail, which looks great but keeps logging error messages "server allows to log in only once every 15 minutes." I configured this to sync every minute, so I get 15 error messages before it works (syncs). At least the HTC stock mail doesn't have that problem.
I may need to switch to gmail..at least some of the email traffic. I have a task killer but it doesn't kill the mail application or any other system appl. Just flickr, Facebook, Amazon MP3...
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To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
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Thanks. With Exchange you guys mean an enterprise MS Exchange server, correct? which I don't have access to.
That's what I miss the most of my BlackBerry, the speed to get emails. I made tests with iPhones, Androids, and even Blackberry's on ATT and this Sprint BlackBerry was the best. Not even 3 seconds most of the time, using Hotmail.
Hotmail has recently released the exchange settings. U should try that
It keeps happening with this HTC stock email application. I have 3 different sorts of email accounts setup on it, and it seems that only the one on the foreground works, the other 2 in the background are asleep. If I get an email in one of those sleeping mailboxes, I don't even get a notification, led, nor sound, or anything. I just received an email from 7AM at this time, 1123AM, and just because I checked because I was curious, otherwise.... That prompted me to write this. Just out of frustration. One of those email accounts in the background is a Google account, and it didn't work. I will have to split them into different email applications according to the type of account, as suggested above. I have a strong 3G signal. It has to be something in the implementation. The task killer just kills those flickr, Amazon, Facebook, that's about it. It doesn't kill any system files. Not even google talk.
I'll keep investigating.
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In case somebody has the same problem, I am tracking down what's going on here.
Definitely, the problem is caused by one process the Task Killer....is killing...
I'm very surprised. The tasks that are being killed are mostly HTC programs that apparently shouldn't affect the performance of MAIL and WEATHER, but it does. Probably, this is also affecting the other issue I have, the setting of location services being permanently turned off.
Now, which application is it, that is obviously being used by MAIL and WEATHER?
Could it be FOOTPRINTS? Could it be HTC Facebook? Could it be AMAZON MUSIC STORE? Could it be SPRINT NAVIGATION? Or Qik?
Basically, those are the processes being killed.
The way I found out was killing the killer, and restarting all these applications. All of a sudden MAIL and WEATHER started working as expected. Mail refreshes every 5 minutes.
Maybe by killing one of those "dummy" programs above, also kills a thread of hidden processes being used by Weather and Mail.
Interesting.
(maybe somebody knows about this already here or in another forum).
Related
Anyone with any experience using Funambol? It's an open source push email solution. It seems to be the only Exchange competitor open source has to offer. I'm installing it now to my server so I'll post my experience. Any thing I should watch out for during the install?
Thanks
LMAO lack of interest apparently!
I tried myfunambol today... Setting up an account and installing everything was easy. Seemed to sync my contacts, calendar and tasks just fine... but I couldn't use more than one email account which was a bummer. But more importantly... the one email account I did use.. gmail... Would push the email to my device after about 5-10 minutes. It would notify me that there was new mail... but when I would go to the Funambol account (won't let you rename it in pocket outlook from what I could tell) it would say Sending/Recieving... and after it was done... there was nothing in my inbox. It did manage to get them after I clicked on Menu > Send/Recieve... but it was still spotty. I didn't get that "reliable" feeling from it.
I tried it for about an hour and even synced my Outlook on my desktop. The syncing of contacts and what not seemed fine... but the email didn't seem to work for me.
I'm on the 8525 btw.
I decided to just go back to mail2web for now... and just forward my work and my personal email to one email account. BAH!
I wish pocket Outlook would just support IMAP idle for gmail already... that and PPC PimBackup is all I would need.
Mark
funambol does actually support instant push, and as soon as the server sees new mail, your phone will sync it.
Your problem is that if you're using the my.funambol free hosted service, their server is only polling your email every 15 min.
Basically, you're notified as soon as the server has new mail for you, however the server only checks for you on 15 min intervals.
Why?
Because the public email servers (yahoo, gmail, aol, etc) dont like get pounded with constant email checking. I was told even blackberry servers check public servers on intervals for this reason (private domains will be instant tho).
If you have an ISP or private domain email, and you're nice to funambol's support team, you can ask them to set your account to check more often. I don't know if they'll do this for everyone, but they set mine to check every 1 min. Now the longest I have to wait for email to arrive is one minute, the actual time averages around 10 sec.
Or you can set up your own funambol server if you'd like...
Ah, that explains the delay.
I was hoping the Funambol server would implement IMAP IDLE connection to gmail so that the emails would be pushed much faster than a 15 minute polling. I'll have to do some more research.
Dishe,
You seem very knowledgeable about Funambol. Do you know if it support HTML email with the Windows Mobile plug-in? It is currently giving me plain-text, I thought maybe there was a setting I could do to change this. Thanks.
www.nuevasync.com
No joke, 1000x better than any other sync solution. Only works with Gapps, but I bet that's what 90% of you guys are looking for anyway.
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www.nuevasync.com
No joke, 1000x better than any other sync solution. Only works with Gapps, but I bet that's what 90% of you guys are looking for anyway.
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From their website, it does not seem to support push email (YET).
I checked out Nuevasync and it is awesome! It syncs contacts and calendar perfectly and doesn't require any software downloads. It uses activesync. Thanks a lot for the tip!
is really useful for me, I am glad to read it here.
I was searching the forum, and elsewhere, and could not get a way of solving the issues..
Problem:
1. Exchange server (office related) is occupying 'push mail' using ActiveSync definitions. Works just fine.
2. Google APPS - although it can push mail, I have to connect as IMAP or POP account , losing push mail. Works fine as well..
However- recently I have a need to get notified right away when I get an email on my google account. I can use activeSync to push google, but my current exchange server does not have POP or IMAP. I tried changing the intervals of checking my google account (using IMAP) to every 5 minutes. That works kind of OK, but my battery drainage increased to a point I have to charge before i get back home.
I looked into solutions like Chronobilis, but it did not work. I need mainly emails, not calendar and contacts to be pushed (obviously). Even a paid service is nice, but I can not use a 3rd party service if my emails are sent to an un-authorized 3rd party server, especially if servers may reside outside the US.
Any ideas?
Possible solution...
Have you tried the SEVEN Beta Program? It does provide push email capabilities for free. I used it awhile back to have multiple email accounts from Exchange and Gmail pushed to my phone.
URL: http://community.seven.com/main.php
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However- recently I have a need to get notified right away when I get an email on my google account. I can use activeSync to push google, but my current exchange server does not have POP or IMAP. I tried changing the intervals of checking my google account (using IMAP) to every 5 minutes. That works kind of OK, but my battery drainage increased to a point I have to charge before i get back home.
Any ideas?
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I would try a demo of touchdown from the market it can activesync i dont recall if it can do multiple accounts or not but I thinks not but YMMV.
Seven ! that's it !!!
WOW...
Tried the solution offered , using SEVEN, and it is great. Was not only able to pusg Gmail and Exchange at the same time, but I am getting rid of ActiveSync I never liked...
Thanks guys. Prompt answer, and a damn good one too..
bigE
Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.
The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.
Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.
Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.
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Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(
I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.
issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?
Some of this needs to be done from a PC......
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!
Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE
Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks
I have over 400 emails and my phone only showing me 100 of them. Amyone else having this issue?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
I guess no one is having this problem?
I am suprised no one else having this problem, I guess I have a defective one.
I noticed this just a day ago. The POP emails seem to age off after 1 week or if they get deleted on the server.
My assumption is the email client on the phone is doing this; it should not, but there is no other reason for it. The only relevant email setting i can find is if the client should delete on the server.
I was starting to like Touchwiz, but Samsung really messed up the email client. I hope custom Roms give us a better email client.
I also have a problem with POP3 fetch. I have 1 Exchange, Gmail, and 3 POP3 accounts. Exchange works as it should, but the POP3 accounts seem to stop fetching overnight. Even manually refreshing doesn't work. I may have rebooted before or just waited... not sure.
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I also have a problem with POP3 fetch. I have 1 Exchange, Gmail, and 3 POP3 accounts. Exchange works as it should, but the POP3 accounts seem to stop fetching overnight. Even manually refreshing doesn't work. I may have rebooted before or just waited... not sure.
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I had the inverse problem. IMAP stoped retreiving my mail and POP3 worked
(I had 2 IMAP + 3 GMAIL)
Now 1 IMAP, 1 POP and 3 GMAIL
Email Client Is Too Slow
Why is the email client so dang slow?
It's slow in general but mostly when I go to delete emails.
If I select several emails for deletion they pop off one at a time every 5 seconds or so.
No other phone I've owned has ever taken this long to do something as simple as delete an email.
Is this a problem with just the Captivate and TouchWiz, or does it happen with other Android phones as well?
Will this be fixed in FroYo?
Also for some reason some e-mail clients like Eudora, has an issue with the stock e-mail app from Samsung, it does not have proper mail headers and Eudora will show up as gibberish. I have switched over to MailDroid and it seems to be a lot more responsive, less of a memory hog and actually has no problems with Eudora and other mail clients that require mime in the headers. As well as I got a -2 e-mail on an iMap account under the Samsung Stock E-mail app...
Cheers,
Charlie
I just can't get the mail app to sync. So the live tile has never shown anything, and it is on. It just never syncs! I have to check mail from my phone or open the gmail in the desktop browser. This is bad as this is my only computer.
Have you turned off notifications for mail somehow? Charms-Settings-Change PC settings-Notifications?
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Have you turned off notifications for mail somehow? Charms-Settings-Change PC settings-Notifications?
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no, I just checked again. They are on.
Do you use any mail accounts other than Gmail? If so, and those aren't working either, then there's some other problem.
However, if it's just Gmail, you can think Google for that. They disabled adding new devices using Exchange ActiveSync connections to Gmail a few weeks ago. Feel free to write them a nasty-gram about it; it seems a pretty dickish move on their part IMO (note that existing connections still work, they just don't allow new ones). Not that they're obligated to provide any such service, but bull**** like this is why I don't rely on "cloud" services to any extent that I can help it; when you don't control the service, you are at the mercy of service provider's whims.
As a work-around, enable IMAP access in Gmail settings, and then manually add the IMAP/SMTP account to your Mail app on the tablet. That should work fine, but you'll lose a lot of the integration benefits; things like contacts and calendars and such will need to use different services instead of all going through EAS.
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Do you use any mail accounts other than Gmail? If so, and those aren't working either, then there's some other problem.
However, if it's just Gmail, you can think Google for that. They disabled adding new devices using Exchange ActiveSync connections to Gmail a few weeks ago. Feel free to write them a nasty-gram about it; it seems a pretty dickish move on their part IMO (note that existing connections still work, they just don't allow new ones). Not that they're obligated to provide any such service, but bull**** like this is why I don't rely on "cloud" services to any extent that I can help it; when you don't control the service, you are at the mercy of service provider's whims.
As a work-around, enable IMAP access in Gmail settings, and then manually add the IMAP/SMTP account to your Mail app on the tablet. That should work fine, but you'll lose a lot of the integration benefits; things like contacts and calendars and such will need to use different services instead of all going through EAS.
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I have a yahoo account on it too. But that also doesn't work.
Have you tried syncing manually using the Mail app? Open the app, right-click or swipe from top or bottom, and select Sync. If it doesn't work, you should get an error message.
For what it's worth, my Surface RT happily syncs both my Gmail and Yahoo accounts, in addition to several others (my work account which is also over EAS but to an actual Exchange server, my old university account which is the same, and a personal IMAP account).
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Have you tried syncing manually using the Mail app? Open the app, right-click or swipe from top or bottom, and select Sync. If it doesn't work, you should get an error message.
For what it's worth, my Surface RT happily syncs both my Gmail and Yahoo accounts, in addition to several others (my work account which is also over EAS but to an actual Exchange server, my old university account which is the same, and a personal IMAP account).
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Yes, most of the time that works. I don't get an error message. But sometimes I know I have an email, because my phone will tell me. But I will hit sync like five times and I can't see any new emails.
started having the same problem
my mail app has also started having syncing issues... this is with both outlook and gmail!! it was working very well 3 days ago... does anyone have the same issues?!
I have the same problem. Mail stops auto syncing and live tile no longer works. Only way to fix it is to uninstall the app, reboot, reinstall and then it works again... for a while then stops syncing again =(
tboy2000 said:
I have the same problem. Mail stops auto syncing and live tile no longer works. Only way to fix it is to uninstall the app, reboot, reinstall and then it works again... for a while then stops syncing again =(
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Read the end of this article - particularly if you are syncing gmail from other devices in addition to the Surface - as you will be hitting the gmail single POP access problem: http://woodygems.wordpress.com/2007/01/24/hello-world/