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Funambol Push Email

Anyone with any experience using Funambol? It's an open source push email solution. It seems to be the only Exchange competitor open source has to offer. I'm installing it now to my server so I'll post my experience. Any thing I should watch out for during the install?
Thanks

LMAO lack of interest apparently!

I tried myfunambol today... Setting up an account and installing everything was easy. Seemed to sync my contacts, calendar and tasks just fine... but I couldn't use more than one email account which was a bummer. But more importantly... the one email account I did use.. gmail... Would push the email to my device after about 5-10 minutes. It would notify me that there was new mail... but when I would go to the Funambol account (won't let you rename it in pocket outlook from what I could tell) it would say Sending/Recieving... and after it was done... there was nothing in my inbox. It did manage to get them after I clicked on Menu > Send/Recieve... but it was still spotty. I didn't get that "reliable" feeling from it.
I tried it for about an hour and even synced my Outlook on my desktop. The syncing of contacts and what not seemed fine... but the email didn't seem to work for me.
I'm on the 8525 btw.
I decided to just go back to mail2web for now... and just forward my work and my personal email to one email account. BAH!
I wish pocket Outlook would just support IMAP idle for gmail already... that and PPC PimBackup is all I would need.
Mark

funambol does actually support instant push, and as soon as the server sees new mail, your phone will sync it.
Your problem is that if you're using the my.funambol free hosted service, their server is only polling your email every 15 min.
Basically, you're notified as soon as the server has new mail for you, however the server only checks for you on 15 min intervals.
Why?
Because the public email servers (yahoo, gmail, aol, etc) dont like get pounded with constant email checking. I was told even blackberry servers check public servers on intervals for this reason (private domains will be instant tho).
If you have an ISP or private domain email, and you're nice to funambol's support team, you can ask them to set your account to check more often. I don't know if they'll do this for everyone, but they set mine to check every 1 min. Now the longest I have to wait for email to arrive is one minute, the actual time averages around 10 sec.
Or you can set up your own funambol server if you'd like...

Ah, that explains the delay.
I was hoping the Funambol server would implement IMAP IDLE connection to gmail so that the emails would be pushed much faster than a 15 minute polling. I'll have to do some more research.

Dishe,
You seem very knowledgeable about Funambol. Do you know if it support HTML email with the Windows Mobile plug-in? It is currently giving me plain-text, I thought maybe there was a setting I could do to change this. Thanks.

www.nuevasync.com
No joke, 1000x better than any other sync solution. Only works with Gapps, but I bet that's what 90% of you guys are looking for anyway.

TerryMathews said:
www.nuevasync.com
No joke, 1000x better than any other sync solution. Only works with Gapps, but I bet that's what 90% of you guys are looking for anyway.
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From their website, it does not seem to support push email (YET).

I checked out Nuevasync and it is awesome! It syncs contacts and calendar perfectly and doesn't require any software downloads. It uses activesync. Thanks a lot for the tip!

is really useful for me, I am glad to read it here.

Push email on Android

Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.

The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.

Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.

Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.

Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.

I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.

n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.

youbrokeit said:
according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(

I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.

issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?

Some of this needs to be done from a PC......

well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.

ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.

Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!

Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE

Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks

underperforming email application on Evo

Coming from BlackBerry, I have gotten worried several times already with my new Evo.
In my former Blackberry, also with Sprint, you sent me an email and before three seconds (specially on my Hotmail account) I would feel my Blackberry vibrating already. It was blazing amazing.
On my Evo, I have my email set to sync every 5 minutes, which is the max allowed by the settings. It's set for 5 minutes peak and not peak, and the 7 days of the week.
Last night at 11:30pm I received an email sent at 7pm. The time stamp on the email was 7pm, the email was received at 11:30pm. I saw it because I manually synchronized, otherwise..... This would have never happened with the BlackBerry (who own their own email servers, which have no equal, now I see).
4 hours 30 minutes is not acceptable. This is the worst example, but not the only one. Some of them took 2 hours, some 10 minutes, and about 75% are on time.
The sync is not working every 5 minutes as it should. It's like it just dies out. I have a strong 3G signal, so signal is not the issue.
My phone is still virgin (stock).
Exactly the same is going on with the Weather widget, it wasn't sync-ing, but now the sync settings grayed out on me. I can't even change the settings. The weather application works for me only when I manually sync, yesterday morning it was raining and there was a huge shining sun on my screen, so it's not accu---rate. This noon I still had a full moon on my screen.
I wonder what's going on.

K9 mail brah

Thanks. Installing k9Mail now....

Did u try exchange settings ?
It should push mail s instantly..

drgopoos said:
Did u try exchange settings ?
It should push mail s instantly..
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no, but I'll try... thanks!

Any change you use a gmail account? The gmail app sends a notification as soon as the e-mail is received, just like the blackberry. If not, perhaps you should forward your e-mails (from hotmail) to a gmail account and bypass the 5 minute syncing issue.
Also, if you're using a task killer, be sure you have your e-mails apps listed as "ignore" otherwise you might kill the syncing and automatic updating.

To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.

rdude said:
To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
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email app in andorid has to be refined more, especially push and sync.
I do get into some issues at times, but with froyo , hopefully its going to be solved.
( so far the best sync option for email for me has been my jaibrokeb iphone . no flames please. i am not an apple fanboy and i have never used blackberry )

parousia15 said:
Any change you use a gmail account? The gmail app sends a notification as soon as the e-mail is received, just like the blackberry. If not, perhaps you should forward your e-mails (from hotmail) to a gmail account and bypass the 5 minute syncing issue.
Also, if you're using a task killer, be sure you have your e-mails apps listed as "ignore" otherwise you might kill the syncing and automatic updating.
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Hi, thanks. Yes, I have a gmail account but that''s the one I just created for the market application. I have had that Hotmail account for about 10 years or more... That one worked perfectly with BBerry. I installed K-9 Mail, which looks great but keeps logging error messages "server allows to log in only once every 15 minutes." I configured this to sync every minute, so I get 15 error messages before it works (syncs). At least the HTC stock mail doesn't have that problem.
I may need to switch to gmail..at least some of the email traffic. I have a task killer but it doesn't kill the mail application or any other system appl. Just flickr, Facebook, Amazon MP3...

rdude said:
To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
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Thanks. With Exchange you guys mean an enterprise MS Exchange server, correct? which I don't have access to.
That's what I miss the most of my BlackBerry, the speed to get emails. I made tests with iPhones, Androids, and even Blackberry's on ATT and this Sprint BlackBerry was the best. Not even 3 seconds most of the time, using Hotmail.

Hotmail has recently released the exchange settings. U should try that

It keeps happening with this HTC stock email application. I have 3 different sorts of email accounts setup on it, and it seems that only the one on the foreground works, the other 2 in the background are asleep. If I get an email in one of those sleeping mailboxes, I don't even get a notification, led, nor sound, or anything. I just received an email from 7AM at this time, 1123AM, and just because I checked because I was curious, otherwise.... That prompted me to write this. Just out of frustration. One of those email accounts in the background is a Google account, and it didn't work. I will have to split them into different email applications according to the type of account, as suggested above. I have a strong 3G signal. It has to be something in the implementation. The task killer just kills those flickr, Amazon, Facebook, that's about it. It doesn't kill any system files. Not even google talk.
I'll keep investigating.

Update
In case somebody has the same problem, I am tracking down what's going on here.
Definitely, the problem is caused by one process the Task Killer....is killing...
I'm very surprised. The tasks that are being killed are mostly HTC programs that apparently shouldn't affect the performance of MAIL and WEATHER, but it does. Probably, this is also affecting the other issue I have, the setting of location services being permanently turned off.
Now, which application is it, that is obviously being used by MAIL and WEATHER?
Could it be FOOTPRINTS? Could it be HTC Facebook? Could it be AMAZON MUSIC STORE? Could it be SPRINT NAVIGATION? Or Qik?
Basically, those are the processes being killed.
The way I found out was killing the killer, and restarting all these applications. All of a sudden MAIL and WEATHER started working as expected. Mail refreshes every 5 minutes.
Maybe by killing one of those "dummy" programs above, also kills a thread of hidden processes being used by Weather and Mail.
Interesting.
(maybe somebody knows about this already here or in another forum).

Gmail and email

Yea it seems gmail never fails to give me my email notifications right on time, right when I receive mail I get a notification no more then 2 minutes later. But yahoo seems to never update and I get my email like 30 min to a hour later. So this must be droid telling me if I don't have gmail I won't get my notifications on time. Very bias of the android OS. And it sends nobody has a sure
fix for thus as I have searched the forums and have used k9 as well it all fails.
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Both GMail and Exchange mail support the feature called Push Email -- it pushes into your phone's inbox as soon as the mail server receives the email.
How do you setup your Yahoo email? I guess you used the POP3 email access which is pretty dumb and doesn't support push email (your phone has to check the mail server every so often to see if there is mail there.
There should be a Yahoo mail app created by Yahoo that also supports push email. You have to use that app in order to get the push email from Yahoo.
Hotmail now also supports push email via Exchange email support. So, no new email app needed.

I have one of my yahoo accounts set up on the yahoo app, but it only allows for one account as far as I know
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Then, call Yahoo and ask them to support multiple accounts. Yahoo, Gmail and hotmail all use properitary protocols for their email in addition to support the old POP3 protocol. Gmail and Hotmail have the added advantage of supporting Exchange ActiveSync. So, in order to take advantage of advanced feature like push email, you will need the native client from the respective email provider or use Exchange ActiveSync if there is support for it. It is not any kind of bais in Andriod OS. It is the fault of Yahoo falling way behind the technology curve. POP3 protocol is created like 20 to 30 years ago. Back then, emails often take days to reach the destination.
BTW, the phone's built-in email client only supports 2 Exchange accounts max. I know Gmail client supports multiple gmail accounts as well but not sure how many accounts it can support.

Yahoo does have an app, whether it's any good is a different story. I have tried both, the email app and the messenger app and they are very laggy, almost rendering the phone useless. Then again ymmv

Emails reappear after deleted

After deleting emails and after deleting from trash, they come back as new mail
Have tried setting up as imap and pop. Same either way. How to correct?

Yeah, noticed that too dude. It doesn't happens often, but it happens. It could be a bug on exchange services package, a service that gives commands to operate on email app and regulates everything you do in your mailbox, synchronizing them. I'm using an outlook.com account, and you? I'd like to know if this happens to everyone who's not using a gmail.com account or even to them

I used OWA, Nine, Aquamail, bluemail, enhanced email for all my exchange and active sync emails but none had issue. never liked the inbuild email app on any phone as thats just a basic one