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[Q] Watching Videos?!

hi, anyone watch movies and that on thier phone? just wondering what the optimum video size would be to get a good picture and make it less flickery! and the best programs to use to convert the size of the movie?
Cheers
Hon

anyone?? surely someone must know??

Streaming or stored video files, basically you can use the same parameters and the same tools. I describe streaming only.
Use VLC to stream the video via Wifi or Edge to your phone.
An excellent client is Coreplayer (only 20 bucks)
On VLC set transcoding params like this:
video codec: mpeg4 (alternatively you could use h264)
video bitrate: 300-400kbs (wifi) ; 100-200kbs (edge)
resolution 320x240
audio codec: mp3
audio bitrate: 48-64kbs
container: ts (transport stream)
VLC can stream everything including live TV from TV/Sat cards and also from settop boxes.
If you wonna play files from memstick transcode your videos to files with the wifi parameters.

i used TCPMP with my vox oc'd to 252mhz
it can play most videos stored on my mSD (tv. eps and things of that sort) without having to convert
if i do need to convert, just make sure it's at 320x240

sorry i didnt specify, it is stored movies. cheers

A friend is considering this phone as an upgrade and I'm also interested in finding out about how good video playback on this phone works. Can you install freeware codec packs to support DivX, Xvid and all the other common formats on it like you can with the bigger PDA-style phones? Is its CPU speed enough for it to decode the videos without stutter? Is its built-in player good enough or would I need a third-party app?

I tried it. I think the optimum is Divx or Mpeg4, 320*240 and 512 kbit/s with 44 khz stereo audio. It can be played more than 100 % speed. (TCPMP benchmark).

manveruppd said:
A friend is considering this phone as an upgrade and I'm also interested in finding out about how good video playback on this phone works. Can you install freeware codec packs to support DivX, Xvid and all the other common formats on it like you can with the bigger PDA-style phones? Is its CPU speed enough for it to decode the videos without stutter? Is its built-in player good enough or would I need a third-party app?
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Depends. If you don't use H/264 / AVC, then, it'll work just great. With AVC, you'll need to stick to CorePlayer and not even then will you 100% frame rate with higher bit rates / resolutions.

I did a tutorial on this
search for "Video Recoding Tutorial - Video Settings" in this forum

Rock video player

Removed due to permission.
Found a very nice video player, it can't do full 720p mkv's but it's just a matter of cpu and such, it can play them just at 5fps lol
i'm trying to put on a 700mb avi and a vob to check if they work, a smaller(300mb) avi works excellent!
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forgot the file, oops.
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It plays large avi's just fine, and it "plays" vob's, only problem is that it can't cache the vob to play it so it will only play the first 5sec
Original thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6746765#post6746765

mrono said:
Found a very nice video player, it can't do full 720p mkv's but it's just a matter of cpu and such, it can play them just at 5fps lol
i'm trying to put on a 700mb avi and a vob to check if they work, a smaller(300mb) avi works excellent!
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forgot the file, oops.
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It plays large avi's just fine, and it "plays" vob's, only problem is that it can't cache the vob to play it so it will only play the first 5sec
Original thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6746765#post6746765
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wont install, get an error, "There is a problem parsing the package."

This worked great for me. I have been looking for a player that would play the various file types I have and so far this seems to work great on the EVO.

Thanks for the link! I love that it will stretch video to fit the full screen, perfect.
I'm encoding all my video with a maximum of 480 horizontal resolution, seems to play back well at this rate.

movie:
MKV
H264 High profile, 720x304 @ 405Kbps @ 24FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz
perfect quality
14 to 20 FPS
tv show:
AVI
DivX 5, 704x384 @ 1,097Kbps @ 24 FPS
MP3, 48KHz @ 128Kbps
perfect quality
22 - 24 FPS
anime:
MKV
H264 High profile, 848x480 @ 302Kbps @ 24FPS
AAC, 48KHz
lots of artifacts
no subs (ASS, Advanced Sub Station)
8 to 15 FPS
handbrake:
MP4
H264 Baseline profile, 800x448 @ 3,120Kbps @ 30 FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz @ 151 Kbps
perfect quality
13 to 16 FPS
Artbeats 720p HD Demo:
MP4
H264 Main profile, 1280x720 @ 5,994Kbps @ 30 FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz @ 66Kbps
perfect quality
3 to 6 FPS
Artbeats 1080p HD Demo:
MP4
H264 Main profile, 1920x1080 @ 10Mbps @ 30FPS
AAC, 44.1KHz @ 192Kbps
perfect quality
1 to 3 FPS
VERDICT: I found myself a nice DivX/xVid player, and a "backup" h264 player

It works very well, but in the original thread it was removed due to lack of permission from the author: seems like a leaked release.
Since this is a very GREAT piece of work, I suggest to remove it from here too, contact the author and give willings for an official beta support to him.

@ngel said:
It works very well, but in the original thread it was removed due to lack of permission from the author: seems like a leaked release.
Since this is a very GREAT piece of work, I suggest to remove it from here too, contact the author and give willings for an official beta support to him.
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Yeah I did that :/

best avi player out there, finally a seriuos leak of android has been resolved.

Mod. edit: As already stated this is a beta, publishing it would be warez as the developer didn't consent it's distribution. Pls wait for the official release.
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Which best software for X10i full screen video conversion

hey guys
tell me which is the best software for X10i full screen video convertor..
i want software which convert video to full screen ...for my x10i
thank you

i use this

realunited123 said:
i use this
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Is that converter fast? Cause all of the video converters seem to take very long.. How long on avg will it take to convert 1hr of video?

realunited123 said:
i use this
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thanks
i will try it

Imtoo HD is best for me, can setup 854x480 full screen.
Sed from my X10i @BKK

With Rockplayer from the Android Market you woun't ever have to convert a video again. It plays all formats including mkv out of the box!
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk

I use SUPER ©

Yes use Rockplayer
After second "Rockplayer" - it really does away with having to spend hours converting "most" movies

somebody really still converting?

Yes, I still do it, because movies take less space on my SD card once they are in MP4 (with the right format) instead of original format.
I cannot change movies every nigth, I have to store 6 or 7 for the week... (and music, and pictures, and...)

thank you
thank you guys
i will try it all..
and yaa instead of direct copy i prefer to convert it becoz it take less memory on my SD card thats why

but you can save much time with bigger sd-card an the rockplayer...

XperiaX10iUser said:
I use SUPER ©
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+1 for super and it rocks...

So which media player is good to play HD video in MP4 format? Rockplayer or Super?

Guys,
I have tried handbrake to encode and Rockplayer, realplayer beta to playback the below video clip :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPbozRomX4
With no success and the video become stuck when it reached : 2:44
Let me know if anyone can overcome this problem, thanks.

chongbh said:
So which media player is good to play HD video in MP4 format? Rockplayer or Super?
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SUPER is NOT a media player, its a video converter to use in your PC.

on my X10i (unbranded) the SE Mediascape video player plays better than Rock player, the sound is in sync more than Rock player for example.
I have also used "IM TOO" but found it very slow. (1.5 hours to encode a 30 minute episode of Alan Partridge.
I now use WinX DVD Ripper winxdvd d0t c0m (no I dont work for them).
If this is spyware or whatever please let me know, but in encodes a DVD film in 45 mins (even a Disney one with all that special encoding)
My question is....
"what is the ultimate setting for encoding a DVD to MP4 for the X10i?
Please do not reply if you are just guessing, the X10i does not like frame rate 30 for example..
thanks

x2 on using Super as the video convertor. It's free and it offers more features than most other video convertors.
but with RockPlayer (and yxplayer for some files) I no longer need to convert. my 16gb only stores documents, some pictures, and videos but no mp3 since i'd rather listen to streaming internet radio than download mp3s.
the "best" video setting will depend on how you rate video quality. imo, for smoothness and when you are watching movies, i'd go with 23 fps or less, and have high bitrate but reduced resolution (above half the resolution of the lcd display).
video conversion speeds depends mainly on your video converting settings (format, bitrate, resolution, etc.) and your CPU power, not the software.. just fyi.

I am currently using xmedia recode.
I use the settings for the Motorola Milestone when converting, as for some reason the X10 settings mess the audio up.
Pretty quick, and audio/visual sync is spot on

It doesn't matter what to use.
for example, I convert films from my 720p/1080p hd collection, using parameters, such as 854x480 resolution, 160 kbit audio bitrate and 1000-1200 kbit video bitrate.
And it looks like I watch a real hd video! The picture is perfect! Enjoy
Oh, and I noticed, that it's better to use h264 codecs with *.mkv container than mpeg4 with .mp4 and .avi
RockPlayer is the best for my monster-like videos Avatar with 1200 video bitrate and near 2gb file size works without any lags. This is the power of nice program code (thx for RockPlayer devs) with the connection of Snapdragon processor

Question: Movies on cappy?

i got some 700mb avi movies and dropped it on my phone. it said it could not play. do i need to resize it or is it an encoder issue? maybe the file size is too big? idk!
thanks

What player are you trying to use?

use rockplayer or vplayer, I had played 2.7gb mkv 720p movie with no issue.

kamesen said:
i got some 700mb avi movies and dropped it on my phone. it said it could not play. do i need to resize it or is it an encoder issue? maybe the file size is too big? idk!
thanks
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Try the program "handbrake" with high profile settings

Are you using a custom rom? Because I have been watching 700 mb .avi and great big hd .mkv with no problem, on both stock and newest cognition. Only format I HAVE had a problem with is m2ts.

I use PavTube Ultimate Blu-Ray Converter to make Xvid MP4 files out of my discs. They work great on the Captivate. I played around with different settings and there really isn't much visual difference between using the native 800x480 resolution compared to HD rez, but the difference in file size is significant.

I get the same issues with some AVI's in both Rockplayer and the stock player on the stock rom. Haven't tried movies since flashing to Cognition 2.3b7. MKV's don't typically play in rockplayer, the few that have skipped a ton, or they would play with no audio. Not sure what you guys are doing to your movies to make them play. All of my videos are encoded properly, and play on my WD TV Live just fine. The WD is a good test of media quality for rips.

The WD TV Live also can play pretty much any audio and video codec you throw at it.

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The WD TV Live also can play pretty much any audio and video codec you throw at it.
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There have been mkv's that have not played correctly on it, so if it's not encoded properly, the WD is a good test, from my experience.

I have some 700mb xvid movies on my phone and they play fine on stock rom w/stock player. But I highly recommend vplayer for video and rtsp watching.

Yep. Gave Handbrake a shot. Works like a charm. Will download vplayer and check it out
thanks fellas

What kind of settings are you guys using for your conversions?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

followed the settings outlined on this webpage:
http://www.knowyourcell.com/samsung/samsung-captivate/captivate-guides/513592/how_to_convert_videos_and_transfer_them_to_the_samsung_captivate.html
Requirements:
Installed copy of Handbrake software
Video files and or DVD of your choice
Samsung Captivate with microUSB cable
Step I: Launch the Handbrake application on your computer and select the video source
In the menu on the right-hand side, select the iPod Legacy preset (figure 1)
Select your video source by clicking on the Source dropdown menu (we used a DVD for our testing purposes)
Select the destination and name for the file once it has been converted (both the .mp4 and .m4v extension work for the Captivate)
Confirm that the container is set to MP4 File and that Large file size, Web optimized, and iPod 5G support are unchecked
Step II: Adjust Handbrake's Video Settings
Picture Tab:
Uncheck Keep Aspect Ratio
Set the Captivated Width and Height (the Captivate supports a maximum of 800 x 480 pixels)
Video Tab:
Confirm the Video Codec is set as H.264 (x264)
Framerate (FPS) should be set to Same as source
Under Quality, select the Avg Bitrate (kbps) and change it to 1500
Step III: Adjust audio settings
Confirm the Audio Codec is AAC (faac)
Mixdown should be set to Stereo
Change the Samplerate to 48
Change the Bitrate to 160
Step IV: Save as a preset for future use
Click on the Presets menu and select New Preset
Enter Captivate in the dialog box and click Add
"Captivate" will now be saved as a preset and listed on the right hand side in Handbrake to be used in the future
Step V: Convert the video and copy to your Captivate
Click on the Start button in Handbrake
A command line/DOS window will open and start to process the video conversion
Once the conversion is done, mount your Captivate on to your computer via USB
Once mounted, create a folder named Video in the root folder on the Captivate
Copy converted file into the Video folder
That's it! The converted video can now be played on your Captivate using the Gallery app. It should look fantastic on the Captivate's screen as long as the original source was of good quality.
A few things to keep in mind when converting video:
The Captivate does not like video file sizes over 2GB (the settings in Step II should help insure that the file size is kept under 2GB)
Your converted video will only be as good as the source video
If your source is over 800 x 480, you must be sure to set the width and height to a maximum of 800 x 480 as noted in Step II

chirs said:
use rockplayer or vplayer, I had played 2.7gb mkv 720p movie with no issue.
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ditto. no problems with xvid or mkv files of that size.
i hate converting! all i want is drag, drop and play.. easy as that.
On Assonance 4.3 o/c to 1300 mhz

I actually converted like 20 movies or so for my phone but I dont think Im allowed to post the links to them here lol.

I don't know what went wrong, I can just say I'm running same cog rom you are and so far .mkv, .avi and .mp4 work just fine for me on the stock vid player :-/
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Tried Handbrake using the settings above and the video was garbage. I'll stick with Pavtube as it converts anything I throw at it in any format without issue and it does Blu-Ray, as well. Looks like 1500 bit rate is the sweet spot for good video quality and manageable file size.

I believe all you have to click is High profile on the right side , that is it

malicenfz said:
I actually converted like 20 movies or so for my phone but I dont think Im allowed to post the links to them here lol.
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I don't think u would need to convert any vids for the captivate. Captivate by itself plays a variety of formats

Actually, since I'm ripping mostly Blu-Ray discs, they DO need to be converted. And I did a check ripping standard DVD to both mpg2 and mp4. A 50mb mpg2 rip was about 3:40 (min:seconds) whereas the same settings ripped to mp4 was closer to 4:20. Over the span of a complete movie, the mp4 conversion will yield a smaller file size.

[Q] Best format for video

What is the best for playing movies? I plan to rip some from Dvds, and wondered what would play best. I am using Vegan 3. I dont know much about divx vs other codecs.

I use mp4 I have 22 video and they only take 20gb of space. I have heard of guys using .mov but I think it is a full 1080 few so it will probably use a lot more space. I think mp4 is only 720 capable

JoeMofknDot said:
I use mp4 I have 22 video and they only take 20gb of space. I have heard of guys using .mov but I think it is a full 1080 few so it will probably use a lot more space. I think mp4 is only 720 capable
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I want to convert some mkvs and some DVDs to mp4 for an up coming trip, has anyone used handbrake? If so what profile or preset are you using?

jamesgf said:
I want to convert some mkvs and some DVDs to mp4 for an up coming trip, has anyone used handbrake? If so what profile or preset are you using?
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Handbrakes stock settings work fine for me I tried anyvideoconverter but converted files gave corrupt error

Depends on the source. DVD = standard video, so I would actually recommend Xvid in an AVI container. They play very nicely, plus it's a pretty standard format. And for problematic AC3 audio, you can use an app like Rockplayer. MKV also works nicely in Rockplayer. Or you can even encode to MP4 if you want iPod / iPad compatibility.
For High-Def, I would personally recommend MP4 (h263), only because h264 is so problematic. I use Handbrake and then alter the iPad Profile from h264 to MP4 (h263) and it works very nicely on our device. Yes, it's not "standard" so my files are really only for this device or my PC.

I'm not an expert on video formats or ripping/converting. However, I've spent the last couple of days (off and on) trying to find the best way to get vids on the gTab. As of this morning, the best option I've found is using Pazera. I used the "Video to iPod" converter with the following settings:
Output file format
MP4 (MPEG-4/AAC)
Bitrate: 1000 kbit/s
FPS: 30
Audio - Left it in "Auto"
Advanced Settings
Resolution: 1280 x 720 - HD720
The quality looks really good. No issues with the audio either. My only problem is the file size is 1.2GB. The vid I converted was 2 1/2 hours but I still think I want the file size around 500 to 700MB. I'm going to adjust the settings some more and see if I can find the balance between video quality and file size. It just takes an hour or so to convert it so this may take a few days.
I hope this is helpful to everyone. If anyone else has any experience with Pazera and can recommend good settings, I'm all ears!

Sly Soft's AnyDVD to rip and them AnyDVDMobile to convert (I use ipad's default settings on the mobile conversion and they work great - I use those settings b/c I my kids use the same rips for the ipod touch and it comes out as something they all can use (rather than keeping multiple copies for each device).

I have been using this to convert HD video into something the hardware decoder can play without issue:
Code:
INPUT="My_movie.mkv"
OUTPUT="My_movie-gtab.mp4"
ABITRATE=64k
VBITRATE=1500k
RESIZETO="-s 1024x576"
ffmpeg -strict experimental -y -i $INPUT -f mp4 $RESIZETO -vcodec libx264 \
-vpre default -vpre ipod640 -acodec aac -ab $ABITRATE \
-ac 2 -b $VBITRATE -threads 0 $OUTPUT
1000k for the video bitrate would net you about 480M/hour, with 1500k at about 700M/hour (which is fine by me).
The RESIZETO will work for 720p and 1080p content as it's resizing for the longer width. If you have SD content (DVDs) just comment out the RESIZETO. If you have something that is anamorphic (check ffmpeg -i $FILENAME) you will need to do your own math, or just leave it and up the bitrate. A good rule of thumb for high quality is:
0.14 * Height * Width * frames/sec
So 0.14 * 576 * 1024 * 29.97 = 2477260bps, or ~ 2500k, about 1.1G/hour
adjusting the number downward will reduce quality, but it's a choice between video quality and size at this point.
I have tested this with a few videos (Big Buck Bunny, originally 1080p content) and with some 720p videos. 1500k worked out really well.

Great info ckelly33 and ckelly. I'm starting to think the question is more on "what are the acceptable formats". Everyone is different and the output they are looking for is just as different. I'm still trying for 500 to 700MB.
I tried again and I think I've got it like I want it. Need to test it some more. On the last conversion I noticed a button for max file size. That got me right where I want to be!

ima_UNC_fan said:
Great info ckelly33 and ckelly. I'm starting to think the question is more on "what are the acceptable formats". Everyone is different and the output they are looking for is just as different. I'm still trying for 500 to 700MB.
I tried again and I think I've got it like I want it. Need to test it some more. On the last conversion I noticed a button for max file size. That got me right where I want to be!
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So far, It has accepted mp4 and avi containers (I prefer mp4), as well as mp3/aac for audio and h.264(main profile). Reports from roebeet says h.263 works as well. I have not tested xvid yet. I had issues with ac3 audio, so I don't think it supports that.
Of all of those, h.264 is a very very high quality codec, so I would recommend trying to use h.264/aac for encoding if at all possible.