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[APP] Rock divx player , divx , xvid , mkv , rmvb

search "rock divx player"

To get placebo streaming working do the following (my ftp transfers at around 3mb per second to my phone so YMMV)
1. Setup filezilla server on pc (or another ftp app)
1.1 Adjust windows firewall if running it.
2. Install ANDFTP from market and punch in details for your ftp server
3. Log into ftp server select the file to transfer, if encountering errors like I was change the mode from "passive" to "active"
4. Once transfer has started click HOME so the transfer continues, if you hit back it will end the transfer
5. Open the Divx Player
6. Launch the .avi you are currently transferring
7. Sit back and enjoy!!!
I am also trying to get cifs share on my sdcard working so can stream direct but having no luck, would love someone with more experience to provide some feedback.

Media Play:
MKV
* H264 High profile, 720×304 @ 405Kbps @ 24FPS
* AAC, 44.1KHz
* perfect quality
* 14 to 20 FPS
Tv show:
* AVI
* DivX 5, 704×384 @ 1,097Kbps @ 24 FPS
* MP3, 48KHz @ 128Kbps
* perfect quality
* 22 – 24 FPS
Anime:
* MKV
* H264 High profile, 848×480 @ 302Kbps @ 24FPS
* AAC, 48KHz
* lots of artifacts
* no subs (ASS, Advanced Sub Station)
* 8 to 15 FPS
Handbrake:
* MP4
* H264 Baseline profile, 800×448 @ 3,120Kbps @ 30 FPS
* AAC, 44.1KHz @ 151 Kbps
* perfect quality
* 13 to 16 FPS
Artbeats 720p HD Demo:
* MP4
* H264 Main profile, 1280×720 @ 5,994Kbps @ 30 FPS
* AAC, 44.1KHz @ 66Kbps
* perfect quality
* 3 to 6 FPS
Artbeats 1080p HD Demo:
* MP4
* H264 Main profile, 1920×1080 @ 10Mbps @ 30FPS
* AAC, 44.1KHz @ 192Kbps
* perfect quality
* 1 to 3 FPS

I downloaded an apk for rock divx player, but when installed its called Demo player. Is there a different apk which is a full version, or is this it?
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That is the full version, why it's called Demo player I can only speculate.
Maybe its originally a tech demo to show it being possible, then turned out to work pretty well?
Who is the dev of this app?

dan.expo said:
That is the full version, why it's called Demo player I can only speculate.
Maybe its originally a tech demo to show it being possible, then turned out to work pretty well?
Who is the dev of this app?
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probably the people who produced the rockchip processor as i believe that this player is build for the rockchip processor

view site soyandroide

Fantastic app, I can't believe that they achieved this frame rate with out hacking the kernel.

couldn't find it on the market. if it's free, can someone post the apk?

I will try.. thanks for your info..

Can anyone suggest the best combination of player and video file compressing application to crunch video files down to phone size for the HTC Desire?

cosmicharade said:
Can anyone suggest the best combination of player and video file compressing application to crunch video files down to phone size for the HTC Desire?
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Since the desire is running on snapdragon and coupled with this rock player (or "Demo Player", you should be able to play 1280*720 videos without any issues. But if you want to have a smaller video file, use any video conversion application to compress it to a smaller resolution, say 800*400? (e.g. of an app will be WinAVI mp4 converter. worth every penny since i'm using it for my psp, ipodtouch, android. good conversion speed too)

could someone upload the apk file? I can't find this app anywhere =(

bob61320 said:
search "rock divx player"
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You sir, are my hero....
I came from Winmo and missed Coreplayer dearly for all my .avi, .flv, and .3gp needs.... I did not have the patience to convert over a hundred videos, but now they play fine in this player. And the Coreplayer team says they can't put Core out for Android without a new kernel or something I don't remember what but it sounded like a bogus excuse

this app works great. does anyone know where it came from? everywhere i search is just megaupload/rapidshare/etc. links. it would be nice to keep track for updates

info5i2002 said:
e.g. of an app will be WinAVI mp4 converter. worth every penny since i'm using it for my psp, ipodtouch, android. good conversion speed too)
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How much is it? I think I'll get it if it is good like you say. How big are files on average for a movie or TV episode? Quality ok?

It is exactly the RockPlayer leaked just a few days ago with a modified icon. It looks like somebody got this leaked version and changed the icon, then put it on internet. As one developer of RockPlayer, I strongly condemn this behavior.

This plays .avi files almost perfectly, but it has trouble with .ogg and mkv. Ogg files drop and shutter in framerate. Mkv couldn't process audio.
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How much is it? I think I'll get it if it is good like you say. How big are files on average for a movie or TV episode? Quality ok?
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Quality is about >90% of original file. Size wise, at the same resolution but lowered bitrate, approximately 4-6mb per minute depending on the bitrate and settings. Its $29.95 by the way.

thankyou soo much been looking for something like this!

What software do you use to play 1080p mp4 movies?

I tried RockPlayer Lite and some other players in the market but none work.
Please help.

vitalplayer?

Try doubletwist. Plays mp4

junks2010 said:
I tried RockPlayer Lite and some other players in the market but none work.
Please help.
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It's not really just a question of what player - it's a question of what 1080p mp4 files too. Tegra 2 is extremely limited in what it will play back in a 1080p mp4 so how the mp4 is encoded matters as well. I think I read somewhere that it's baseline profile only...and that's with hardware acceleration. Software only, I'm guessing that no file of that size will play - it's too many pixels to push around.
And Rockplayer is my mp4 player of choice (to the extent I actually registered for it to get rid of the ads and the R). In hardware mode, it doesn't bat an eye at my 720p mp4s in main profile.

Judo Jeff said:
It's not really just a question of what player - it's a question of what 1080p mp4 files too. Tegra 2 is extremely limited in what it will play back in a 1080p mp4 so how the mp4 is encoded matters as well. I think I read somewhere that it's baseline profile only...and that's with hardware acceleration. Software only, I'm guessing that no file of that size will play - it's too many pixels to push around.
And Rockplayer is my mp4 player of choice (to the extent I actually registered for it to get rid of the ads and the R). In hardware mode, it doesn't bat an eye at my 720p mp4s in main profile.
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x2. If the 1080p video is encoded the right way, even the vanilla player will play it.
I've been using h263 1080p / 720p MP4's and they work well. Even some MKV's will work with the vanilla player, if encoded a certain way.

roebeet said:
x2. If the 1080p video is encoded the right way, even the vanilla player will play it.
I've been using h263 1080p / 720p MP4's and they work well. Even some MKV's will work with the vanilla player, if encoded a certain way.
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Any luck getting h264 1080p to play? Any specific software you recommend to convert files to appropriate encoding?

I've had success in the past doing it and watching 1080p .mov movie trailers but haven't done so since I've upgraded to TnTLite 5.0. I would recommend Handbrake for encoding and then playing with it. From using Mediainfo on them, I think they were Level 4.1 main profile with 2 reference frames, no Cabac.
I found this on fudzilla from google (I can provide a link if needed)
First of them is H.264 with sub standards Baseline Profile (B frames) — 1080p/20Mbps, Main Profile (B Frames, CAVLC) — 1080p, Main Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction) — 720p/6Mbps and High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction).
Tegra 2 also supports High Profile (B Frames, CABAC, no weighted prediction), MPEG-4 (Simple, B frames and ASP Profiles) — 1080p/8Mbps, H.263 (Profile 0) — 720×576/4Mbps, DiVX (DiVX 4/5) — 1080p/8Mbps, XviD (XviD Home Theater) — 1080p/8Mbps, MPEG-2 (Main Profile @ Main Level) — 720×576/10Mbps, VP6 (simple and advanced profile) — 720p30/2Mbps, Sorenson (simple and advanced profile) — 720×576/4Mbps, JPEG up to 80 Mpixel per second.
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Caveat - 1080p encoding is slow and the files are big. Unless you are doing 1080p encoding for some other purpose, I wouldn't do it just to play on the G-Tab. It really seems to be stretching the limits of the technology. I prefer to do a really good quality 720p encode instead. They look equally good on the G-Tab at a smaller file size - and on a 60" plasma I still can't tell that they're worse. I had floated my encode parameters for handbrake somewhere back in this section.

vitalplayer, vanilla player? What is better, what supports more formats and it is more convenient?

absorbers said:
vitalplayer, vanilla player? What is better, what supports more formats and it is more convenient?
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The only luck I've had with hardware accelerated video (the high-def stuff) is Rockplayer or vanilla player. Don't like the lack of file browsing you get with the vanilla player. You can get around that by using a file explorer to open your videos instead of the gallery.
I have a couple of mkvs that Rockplayer won't play (SD ones at that), so maybe an experiment is in order!

[Q] Can Nexus S play smoothly 720p video?

There are plenty of posts on the net discussing whether Nexus S is able to record 720p however nobody is talking about whether Nexus S actually _can_ play 720p And when I tried it, it didn't went well.
I downloaded some 720p trailer (mov format), transcoded it using Handbrake to mp4 (I used some iPod/iPhone profile, I just set the resulution and quality to be preserved) and I copied both of them to my Nexus S.
Default video player can play only the mp4 file and the picture is very choppy. MoboPlayer can play both of them, but the mov file only in "soft decoding" mode. Funny is that the mov file is _much_ smoother than the mp4 file, it's not perfect but it looks almost as good as on my pc.
What am I doing wrong? I thought there should be some kind of hw acceleration for mp4 files...
Later I downloaded some 720p trailer directly in mp4 and it played well and very smooth. But the bitrate was just about 2500 kbps whereas the bitrate of the mp4 I was talking about before was about 6500 kbps... which I guess is the reason why it played so choppy. So 6500 kbps is too much and my Nexus S just can't play video in that quality?
And the last thing, the mov file uses the same codec as mp4 file (h264) so why the default player can play only mp4 files?

Playing 1080p MKVs over HDMI

How well does this operate on the sensation? How smooth is the playback of 1080p MKVs? Also, can I play this on rockplayer for example or diceplayer and connect it up to my TV and watch it over HDMI?
Thanks.

Really? No-one?

JellyXDA said:
Really? No-one?
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Well I'm not sure if you know this but there are currently no accessories for MHL that can be utilized in the Sensation. Therefore, it can't be connected to a TV yet which explains why nobody is answering your question. Wait for the MHL dongle to come out and I'm sure people will start saying something.

trying to play 720p mkv just on the phone and its dropping alot of frames.
Tried QQ player and rockplayer but still not enough power to decode the movie in software.
May have to convert the file to mp4 to allow the hardware acceleration!
will try over the weekend and let you know

As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.

redbullcat said:
As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.

daivik said:
It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
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But can it play 1080p MKV?

redbullcat said:
But can it play 1080p MKV?
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I'll test this and get back to you later. I'm sure I've got a 1080p mkv somewhere on my PC.

I'm pretty sure the Sensation's software isn't optimized. I think when we see some custom ROMs (e.g. Android Revolution by mike1986) we may be able to play MKV's

I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.

Dwin-d said:
I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
EDIT:
Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly

rumpleforeskin said:
Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
EDIT:
Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Thanks a lot for testing that out, much appreciated. A lot more useful than the guesstimates made by others in this thread.

My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!

bcpk said:
My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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your test file is mp4. so rock or stock or any other player works same way.
(using embedded media player module)
if you test MKV/H.264-High/DTS or Flac encoded files, you can find differences.

MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.

bcpk said:
MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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point is mkv container is not recognised by the sensation default video player, so although the video stream should be played back via hardware decoding it is not.
Most other players that do recognise .mkv files use software decoding, which is fine for AVI (DivX/XviD) or low bitrate h264 files, but at higher bitrates the frames start droping.
Diceplayer is good because after it splits the MKV audio/video streams it recognises that the h264 video stream can be decoded via hardware, this allows much higher bitrates to be played smoother and should consume less battery as the cpu is not thrashing its nuts off.
It may be that in a future software update MKV are supported by the default player, as it is on the SGS2

I wonder if Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod could play 1080p MKV with Diceplayer or similar, on the Sensation. Would be utterly fantastic if they could!

I'd like to see playback on an OC'd sensation/gs2

Full HW video decoder : BSPlayer is THE player!

Hi,
BSPlayer realease his software for Android.
Pro :
Real HW decoder for most formats (even 1080 files)
Gallery - like browing, including panorama
Video playlist
Timer to shutdown the player...
Cons
Doenst support Dock media's key (play/pause)
For seeking, you must use the slider, if not, it revert to begining
PS : I have mobo player and mx player, even files thoses to last cant play, BSplayer play them smooooooothly
You have to download also the ARMv7 plugin
Have a try, it's free (ads)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bsplayer.bsplayeran.cpu.armv7v&feature=search_result

Posted aggain? Oh, well.

Still... Nothing can play 1080p :'( !!
Really disappointed !! Galaxy S II and Galaxy Note both can play 1080p but transformer doesn't...

It's supporting Videplayback over SMB. Sry Diceplacer but this is a must have for me.
xMini said:
Still... Nothing can play 1080p :'( !!
Really disappointed !! Galaxy S II and Galaxy Note both can play 1080p but transformer doesn't...
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It's Tegra 2 fault.

xMini said:
Still... Nothing can play 1080p :'( !!
Really disappointed !! Galaxy S II and Galaxy Note both can play 1080p but transformer doesn't...
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I disagree. All of my movies are ripped straight from Blu-ray and are 1080p and play via MX player or Dice Player.

The best video player is stock. The smoothness cannot be beat by any 3rd party video player. I've tried MX and Dice and they are only as good or worse than the stock player. The only reason to use a 3rd party video app is if you want the extra UI features or if you are unwilling to transcode/remux MKV to MP4.
Anyone who tells you that DicePlayer/MX Video/BS Player can play any 720p MKV they throw at it is probably watching some pirated movie with crappy warez scene encode settings. I have quite a few 720p MKV/MP4 movies that are unwatchable using the stock player because they stutter so much. The revered DicePlayer is even worse than stock with these movies, and so is MX and BS.
Don't get your hopes up.
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I disagree. All of my movies are ripped straight from Blu-ray and are 1080p and play via MX player or Dice Player.
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I am tired of hearing people imply that MX Video Player or DicePlayer are responsible for successful playback of their movies. If your files are MP4 (which can easily be converted from MKV using VidsOpt), they will play as good and usually better with the STOCK PLAYER.
Also, what encode settings did you use and what is the average bitrate of the movie? I doubt the encode is transparent. It'd be interesting to see a source>encode screenshot comparison.

it doesnt even start to play .mkv so its worthless. Sure would be nice to have a great mkv player.

GetLaid said:
The best video player is stock. The smoothness cannot be beat by any 3rd party video player. I've tried MX and Dice and they are only as good or worse than the stock player. The only reason to use a 3rd party video app is if you want the extra UI features or if you are unwilling to transcode/remux MKV to MP4.
Anyone who tells you that DicePlayer/MX Video/BS Player can play any 720p MKV they throw at it is probably watching some pirated movie with crappy warez scene encode settings. I have quite a few 720p MKV/MP4 movies that are unwatchable using the stock player because they stutter so much. The revered DicePlayer is even worse than stock with these movies, and so is MX and BS.
Don't get your hopes up.
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I am tired of hearing people imply that MX Video Player or DicePlayer are responsible for successful playback of their movies. If your files are MP4 (which can easily be converted from MKV using VidsOpt), they will play as good and usually better with the STOCK PLAYER.
Also, what encode settings did you use and what is the average bitrate of the movie? I doubt the encode is transparent. It'd be interesting to see a source>encode screenshot comparison.
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Despite what your tired of hearing MX Player plays videos better than the stock player IMO but that's just me. That's what's nice about visiting the market is that you can find apps that are better and better than the last including stock for all facets of the tablet. Just like IMO ADWLauncher EX is better than the stock launcher. It's just the order of things and how they work. If you prefer stock player over all others than by all means. Everybody has what's good for them and you go with it.

I don't understand. First you say that the stock video player is the best;
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The best video player is stock. The smoothness cannot be beat by any 3rd party video player. I've tried MX and Dice and they are only as good or worse than the stock player. The only reason to use a 3rd party video app is if you want the extra UI features or if you are unwilling to transcode/remux MKV to MP4.
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...and then you say this in the same post
I have quite a few 720p MKV/MP4 movies that are unwatchable using the stock player because they stutter so much.
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You make no sense here.
The stock video player has terrible codec support. For a high-powered device like the TF101, I shouldn't have to transcode my files to a very specific format just to get the stock player to play them.
Personally, I use VLC. A pre-alpha version was released a couple of months back, and it's great. It plays every video file I've thrown at it and doesn't stutter at all.

Can you link the apk for the VLC you're using? I found a "noneon" build of it on this site, and the playback is absolutely horrendous. It is far, far worse than the stock player. Is this the same compile you are using? These are the specs of the video I used:
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 8.66 GiB
Duration : 2h 30mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 8 242 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:10:38
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:10:38
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 12 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2h 30mn
Bit rate : 8 072 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 19.8 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.365
Stream size : 8.48 GiB (98%)
Title : VidsOpt_0.1.5
Writing library : x264 core 68 r1183M f21daff
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=12 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=esa / subme=9 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=8072 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=50000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:10:38
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:17:10
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2h 30mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 168 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 250 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 180 MiB (2%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:16:58
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-10 00:17:10

really? That's the same build I'm using and I'm finding it perfectly fine. Weird.

Thanks for the heads up on BS player. Indeed it is playing most of the 720p content off my server without issues, I say just above Dice Player and what makes it better than Dice is it is FREE. The interface is fugly like some highschool kid with crayons but who cares as long as the decoding engine works. For some reason MX player never plays anything off my network but plays local content good, strange.
Got rid of Dice, will probably delete Mobo player and rock as well, too many players . . . .

AcIdC0R3 said:
Don't sweat it, he's just trolling because it's better than what he's getting and he uses the stock player which is sub-par to MX or Dice players. So far I've seen what his settings are and mine are better so he feels he has to troll. Go home troll.
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Your encode settings suck, that's why you aren't experiencing the issues that I am. I care about transparency, and you, for whatever reason, obviously do not. You could really tell you knew what you were doing when you called your 1080x800 encode 1080p. 1080p is at least 1920x800...you are missing several hundred lines of resolution. Please, post some source vs encode screenshots. You can do this with VLC Media Player by pressing Ctrl-Alt-S.

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Your encode settings suck, that's why you aren't experiencing the issues that I am. I care about transparency, and you, for whatever reason, obviously do not. You could really tell you knew what you were doing when you called your 1080x800 encode 1080p. 1080p is at least 1920x800...you are missing several hundred lines of resolution. Please, post some source vs encode screenshots. You can do this with VLC Media Player by pressing Ctrl-Alt-S.
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Evidently you don't have your game on when it comes to getting your settings correct since you seem to be having issues and I don't. You're trying to make your TF perform beyond it's specifications. As I said before those were my old settings and as I now use DVD Catalyst with higher bitrates that I have even higher quality videos as I did before. If you would stop hating for a moment and actually read the posts that people place maybe you would learn something.
Sometimes the best thing to do is go back to what works and make your way from there. HERE is a post that has a guide that should get you to making decent videos for the TF.
Good luck.

I know that I am pushing the limits of the TF, but this is so I can achieve transparency of my encode to the source. We are approaching this from two different directions. I am more concerned about transparency and you are more concerned about being within the TF's playback specs while sacrificing quality. If you would look at a source vs encode screenshot comparison you would see this. My point still stands that the stock player is better than MX/Dice/BS for transparent videos that push the TF's limits with high quality encode settings.

If you transcode, then you're already sacrificing quality. We're dealing with lossy formats here.
If you also have to hard-mux the subs, then loss of quality is just staggering.
More on topic, BSplayer introduced their own hardware decoding engine in newest release and it's now on par with DICE player (and noticeably ahead of stock player hardware decode and all other crap players that use it (MX, etc.). It also have better subtitle compatibility.
Sadly, seeking implementation is very bad (to put it kindly) and it still lacks subtitle correction due to framedrops, so that occasional framedrops will cause your subs drift out of sync.

hey, im trying bsplayer with some 720p files and works great. the only problem is that when doing hdmi tv out the subtitles show in the tablet but not in the tv. anyone having same issue?
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i think it has something to do with overlay and last ota updates... dice player is doing the same. didnt have this problem before.

pinkster said:
hey, im trying bsplayer with some 720p files and works great. the only problem is that when doing hdmi tv out the subtitles show in the tablet but not in the tv. anyone having same issue?
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It happens when you use hardware decoding, if you turn it to software the subtitles show up but the video plays slow .. PM me if you find a solution please !

people should stop doing this. the stock player is fine when playing supported format. but what other ppl want is a player that play mkv files smoothly. till now, only dice player does it well, and I say this because tested it myself.

Newest BSPlayer is as good as DICE (builds from nov2011 and above). Test it out.