How well does this operate on the sensation? How smooth is the playback of 1080p MKVs? Also, can I play this on rockplayer for example or diceplayer and connect it up to my TV and watch it over HDMI?
Thanks.
Really? No-one?
JellyXDA said:
Really? No-one?
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Well I'm not sure if you know this but there are currently no accessories for MHL that can be utilized in the Sensation. Therefore, it can't be connected to a TV yet which explains why nobody is answering your question. Wait for the MHL dongle to come out and I'm sure people will start saying something.
trying to play 720p mkv just on the phone and its dropping alot of frames.
Tried QQ player and rockplayer but still not enough power to decode the movie in software.
May have to convert the file to mp4 to allow the hardware acceleration!
will try over the weekend and let you know
As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
daivik said:
It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
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But can it play 1080p MKV?
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But can it play 1080p MKV?
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I'll test this and get back to you later. I'm sure I've got a 1080p mkv somewhere on my PC.
I'm pretty sure the Sensation's software isn't optimized. I think when we see some custom ROMs (e.g. Android Revolution by mike1986) we may be able to play MKV's
I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Thanks a lot for testing that out, much appreciated. A lot more useful than the guesstimates made by others in this thread.
My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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your test file is mp4. so rock or stock or any other player works same way.
(using embedded media player module)
if you test MKV/H.264-High/DTS or Flac encoded files, you can find differences.
MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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point is mkv container is not recognised by the sensation default video player, so although the video stream should be played back via hardware decoding it is not.
Most other players that do recognise .mkv files use software decoding, which is fine for AVI (DivX/XviD) or low bitrate h264 files, but at higher bitrates the frames start droping.
Diceplayer is good because after it splits the MKV audio/video streams it recognises that the h264 video stream can be decoded via hardware, this allows much higher bitrates to be played smoother and should consume less battery as the cpu is not thrashing its nuts off.
It may be that in a future software update MKV are supported by the default player, as it is on the SGS2
I wonder if Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod could play 1080p MKV with Diceplayer or similar, on the Sensation. Would be utterly fantastic if they could!
I'd like to see playback on an OC'd sensation/gs2
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Hello Guys,
I have used both Vegant and Latest TNT 2.2 and both lag while I play 720P .mp4 encoded videos downloaded from youTube, I'd like to know if its a software or hardware limitation? Does anyone else have the same problem with 720 .mp4 files from youtube? Does it lag (as in audio and video lose sync - audio plays faster than video).
ive incoded some 1080p bluerays using handbrake normal preset H.264. container mp4 also had to do this with 1080p .mkv files couldn't even get them to play otherwise. after that they played great on my tablet
The Tegra 2 chipset cannot handle h264 encoded as high profile. Main profile works fine. I know this confuses some people, but grab the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and you can see how your file is encoded.
MP4 containers seem to work best, although I believe Rockplayer can play MKV's with hardware acceleration.
i have some videos that are in the mkv format. i tried using rock player, but the video looks laggy and there's a discrepancy between the video and audio. it seems that the audio is ahead of the video. or is there a way to increase the frame rate for this format. i've tried almost every player in the market that came up under mkv and nothing that works right. my avi files work great though
I've tried all different players that play mkv and they are all laggy and the video is pixulated. I think the gtab is just not capable of playing them. But don't be sad the glorious opacity wont play them either results are the same.
Matt
i've been using rebox.NET found here http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET, it basically re-muxes and converts audio to mp4 format from mkv, i've only tried 720p video so far, plays fine in rock player
I was reading the other day that an andriod version of VLC is being worked on. Hopefully that will do us right.
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i've been using rebox.NET found here http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET, it basically re-muxes and converts audio to mp4 format from mkv, i've only tried 720p video so far, plays fine in rock player
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is this something you do on the tablet or you need to do it on a comp first?
why can't someone take the video player that comes with the archos101 and port into the gtablet? archos101 plays .mkv and just about everything else and I think the .apk is easily obtainable through archos101. I am not sure if the video player is what makes .mkv's work or if there is some system codecs involved. I used to have the archos101 and it did play .mkv's nicely.
yo do the conversion on the pc first, doesn't take but a couple minutes
The Archos player is probably optimized to the hardware inside the Archos which is different from ours.
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why can't someone take the video player that comes with the archos101 and port into the gtablet? archos101 plays .mkv and just about everything else and I think the .apk is easily obtainable through archos101. I am not sure if the video player is what makes .mkv's work or if there is some system codecs involved. I used to have the archos101 and it did play .mkv's nicely.
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I think a couple people have looked at doing that without success. I know I love the player on my little Archos5. It plays very nice, and also has the built-in upnp capability.
MKV (Matroska) support is compiled into stagefright/opencore on the devices that support it (Along with AC3, DTS, etc). It isn't just build into the player app.
Remember that matroska is just a container. being able to parse video streams out of an MKV won't magically give the Tegra2 enough beef to render 5.1aac+h.264 High-profile 1080p, in fact with the Tegra2 userspace libs in their current state you'll be lucky to get 1080p Main profile and only sure of playing Baseline profile.
Look at the video you want to play if its already High profile 1080p it will _never_ play on a Tegra2 device.
Remux (not re-encode) the MKV into an MP4 container, it it still doesn't play nothing short of updates from nvidia will change that.
ArcMedia
I've been using arcMedia and it runs flawlessly. Here's the apk. runs directly from Astro file manager. Long press on the video file, open file using archmedia. check the default box and every video file opened by arcMedia directly.
EDIT: I apologize, the title should have been "Best 720P MKV Video Player"
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Dice Player so far seems to be the top player for 720P .mkv video files. Handles them flawlessly and there's never a sync issue. The only down side is the free version is only good for a few days and if you want to keep using it you have to pay $5.
If you are looking for something free, the next alternative is Kascend Video Player. It also does a good job with 720P .mkv files just that the menu system is a bit screwy and it ignores your brightness settings and will play videos at full brightness.
Additionally, as far as just a regular .mkv player goes(non 720P), RockPlayer is really nice.
Other players as you guys listed below; MX Player, Mobo Player, QQ Player, etc... all of those are decent to but will not handle 720P properly. they'll either play and not show the video or play out-of-sync. You have to use Dice Player or Kascend Video Player for 720P.
have you tried v player? I don't usually play 720p, but for all the t.v. shows and movies I watch it works fine.
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have you tried v player? I don't usually play 720p, but for all the t.v. shows and movies I watch it works fine.
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that doesn't handle 720P either.
if you don't care about 720P, but want to play .mkv, RockPlayer is very good.
if you don't care about 720P or .mkv, then Seaman Player is great.
MX Player and MoboPlayer work great with MKV...try those.
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MX Player and MoboPlayer work great with MKV...try those.
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Mobo player hands down best I've seen.
tbolt ^_^_^
QQPlayer is good for mkv or pretty much anything else you throw at it.
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Just downloaded QQplayer seems to work great on GG Anime releases. I will test out some other mkv's I have thanks a bunch
sorry dudes, the thread was supposed to be for 720P .mkv playback. i edited the original post but it won't let me change the subject title.
dice use less cpu ( it uses HW video decoder ) so, you can save your battery..
and dice gives better picture quality.
I wanna use Dice I might try the trial and see how well it plays then buy it 5 bucks is alot lol
Does Dice Player uses HW decoding on divx/xvid files too?
can the tf 101 play back HD videos in 720p or 1080p with good performance? so far ive treid .mkv, .wmv and .mp4 108ßp files but all of them were way too slow or didnt play at all - is there something one has to do in orderto play HD movies, or is the tf101 too weak?
I've played 720p MKV's and MPEGs with reasonable performance on the stock ROM, but whenever i try to play anything 1080p the wheels start coming off. AFAIK b/c the transformer doesn't have a 1080p screen it won't be able to play 1080p videos (or if it can, it has to downsize them) and that's why it goes haywire whenever i try
In my own experience, I've found that using .avi format encoded with h246 codec (I use TVC) works surprisingly well. I've only converted 720p vids and they run damn smooth. Haven't tried 1080p. Don't need to really. More pixels and I think my eyes might bleed.
Hope that helps. Except the bleeding eyes part.
720p (either mkv, avi or mp4) works okay when using player capable of HW decoding, like MX or Dice Player. I'm not sure about 1080p, but i doubt it would work with acceptable performance.
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720p works okay when using player capable of HW decoding, like MX or Dice Player. I'm not sure about 1080p, but i doubt it would work with acceptable performance.
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Ah yes! Very true. Be sure to go to the Market and download "Mobiplayer" and all its codecs. That's your best video player for the tablet right there. That's what I use to play my files. TF definitely can play these resolutions, but it depends on the format, like on any device.
Rumor is that 1080p Main/Low profile works with HW decoding, but not the High profiles.
Mx video player or dice works well. Some mkvs play better on dice and vice versa
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Hey folks, I was trying to watch a video on my TF101 that I made with my Galaxy S II today, it's a 1920x1080 17Mbit/sec h264 video file. MX player won't play it in hardware. Any way to fix that?
Try Dice Player with the tegra plugin.
Freemake Video Convertor
Easiest converter I've used....take your 1080p file select 720p mkv or what ever other extension and press convert. Might look into the audio settings a bit more tho. (I haven't yet) but the audio comes out not as loud...
Then use MX video...with HW video and SW audio.
Also this might save you time if you try the converter...don't use the Android setting...didn't work for me...wasted 4 hours (slow laptop).
Swyped using my Pinky
I really didn't want to have to transcode the video.
Diceplayer didn't work, even with the plugin. It was a stuttery, frame dropping mess. At least in MX, it plays in super slow motion.
For me, BS Player seems to be the best for playing HD mkv files.
It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.
Did you try playing it in S/W mode? I've had to use it for 1280x720 videos on my TF101 and Captivate with MX.
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It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.
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Argh, sorry. I really suck at multitasking.
I was just transfering a mkv file over to my Transformer when I wrote that comment. lol
What I meant to say was that BS Player seems best for me to play HD movies (with big file size).