Hello Guys,
I have used both Vegant and Latest TNT 2.2 and both lag while I play 720P .mp4 encoded videos downloaded from youTube, I'd like to know if its a software or hardware limitation? Does anyone else have the same problem with 720 .mp4 files from youtube? Does it lag (as in audio and video lose sync - audio plays faster than video).
ive incoded some 1080p bluerays using handbrake normal preset H.264. container mp4 also had to do this with 1080p .mkv files couldn't even get them to play otherwise. after that they played great on my tablet
The Tegra 2 chipset cannot handle h264 encoded as high profile. Main profile works fine. I know this confuses some people, but grab the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and you can see how your file is encoded.
MP4 containers seem to work best, although I believe Rockplayer can play MKV's with hardware acceleration.
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i have some videos that are in the mkv format. i tried using rock player, but the video looks laggy and there's a discrepancy between the video and audio. it seems that the audio is ahead of the video. or is there a way to increase the frame rate for this format. i've tried almost every player in the market that came up under mkv and nothing that works right. my avi files work great though
I've tried all different players that play mkv and they are all laggy and the video is pixulated. I think the gtab is just not capable of playing them. But don't be sad the glorious opacity wont play them either results are the same.
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i've been using rebox.NET found here http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET, it basically re-muxes and converts audio to mp4 format from mkv, i've only tried 720p video so far, plays fine in rock player
I was reading the other day that an andriod version of VLC is being worked on. Hopefully that will do us right.
ILA970JOSH said:
i've been using rebox.NET found here http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET, it basically re-muxes and converts audio to mp4 format from mkv, i've only tried 720p video so far, plays fine in rock player
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is this something you do on the tablet or you need to do it on a comp first?
why can't someone take the video player that comes with the archos101 and port into the gtablet? archos101 plays .mkv and just about everything else and I think the .apk is easily obtainable through archos101. I am not sure if the video player is what makes .mkv's work or if there is some system codecs involved. I used to have the archos101 and it did play .mkv's nicely.
yo do the conversion on the pc first, doesn't take but a couple minutes
The Archos player is probably optimized to the hardware inside the Archos which is different from ours.
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why can't someone take the video player that comes with the archos101 and port into the gtablet? archos101 plays .mkv and just about everything else and I think the .apk is easily obtainable through archos101. I am not sure if the video player is what makes .mkv's work or if there is some system codecs involved. I used to have the archos101 and it did play .mkv's nicely.
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I think a couple people have looked at doing that without success. I know I love the player on my little Archos5. It plays very nice, and also has the built-in upnp capability.
MKV (Matroska) support is compiled into stagefright/opencore on the devices that support it (Along with AC3, DTS, etc). It isn't just build into the player app.
Remember that matroska is just a container. being able to parse video streams out of an MKV won't magically give the Tegra2 enough beef to render 5.1aac+h.264 High-profile 1080p, in fact with the Tegra2 userspace libs in their current state you'll be lucky to get 1080p Main profile and only sure of playing Baseline profile.
Look at the video you want to play if its already High profile 1080p it will _never_ play on a Tegra2 device.
Remux (not re-encode) the MKV into an MP4 container, it it still doesn't play nothing short of updates from nvidia will change that.
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I've been using arcMedia and it runs flawlessly. Here's the apk. runs directly from Astro file manager. Long press on the video file, open file using archmedia. check the default box and every video file opened by arcMedia directly.
There are plenty of posts on the net discussing whether Nexus S is able to record 720p however nobody is talking about whether Nexus S actually _can_ play 720p And when I tried it, it didn't went well.
I downloaded some 720p trailer (mov format), transcoded it using Handbrake to mp4 (I used some iPod/iPhone profile, I just set the resulution and quality to be preserved) and I copied both of them to my Nexus S.
Default video player can play only the mp4 file and the picture is very choppy. MoboPlayer can play both of them, but the mov file only in "soft decoding" mode. Funny is that the mov file is _much_ smoother than the mp4 file, it's not perfect but it looks almost as good as on my pc.
What am I doing wrong? I thought there should be some kind of hw acceleration for mp4 files...
Later I downloaded some 720p trailer directly in mp4 and it played well and very smooth. But the bitrate was just about 2500 kbps whereas the bitrate of the mp4 I was talking about before was about 6500 kbps... which I guess is the reason why it played so choppy. So 6500 kbps is too much and my Nexus S just can't play video in that quality?
And the last thing, the mov file uses the same codec as mp4 file (h264) so why the default player can play only mp4 files?
Is this phone powerful enough to play Full HD videos? 1080p?
If it is, could you play smoothly YouTube 1080p rips? High bit rate .mkv files?
And what player you use for full HD playback?
dont think it will... altough i can play 720p mkv very smoothly with Diceplayer !! did test a couple 1080p which wasnt that smooth....altough i heard that converting into .mp4 results into much better playback because of native support
Of course it can play 1080p videos.
Using the standard Gallery, it can play the 1080p videos that the camcorder records, and it can (so far) play any 1080p MP4 video that I put on the SD-Card or stream from my media server.
There will be some file formats that it won't play, of course, but that's a problem with the format rather than the resolution.
It will also play 1080p MP4 videos through my Sony Bravia TV via DLNA.
abuserkadayf, sjgore, thank you.
sjgore, I see you got HTC Desire too. And it have trouble playing some 720p mkv, never been able to make it play any 1080p. MoboPlayer is the best all around player from point of format support, speed and UI. But there is like a dozen players that based on FFmpeg library around(VPlayer, QQplayer, VitalPlayer, RockPlayer etc...). Was wondering if new generation of hardware is able to support 1080p to the point that there is no need to **** mind about how fast particular video player and choose one solely based on convenience of use and price...
Never tried 1080p on my Desire. 720p was fine, including 720p videos taken using the camcorder in CM6 (720p wasn't in CM7 for some reason).
I haven't even tried any 3rd party players from the Market on the Sensation yet, everything so far has been achieved with what comes built into the phone (ie. just Gallery).
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Never tried 1080p on my Desire. 720p was fine, including 720p videos taken using the camcorder in CM6 (720p wasn't in CM7 for some reason).
I haven't even tried any 3rd party players from the Market on the Sensation yet, everything so far has been achieved with what comes built into the phone (ie. just Gallery).
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Camcorder 720p clip are H.264 720p Baseline. 1st gen. snapdradon ( QSD8260 ) can play 720p Baseline profile.
but most of 720p/1080p movies are H.264 High profile level 3~5.
If file format is MP4(H.264+AAC), stock player can play .
Many of HD movies are MKV/AVI format and audio codec is AC-3(5.1ch) or DTS or Flac.
ffmpeg base player can not play HD ( 720p/1080p ). Decoding & rendering need too much CPU power.
If you want to play HD(with DTS/AC-3/FLAC + MKV/AVI) clips, use diceplayer.
How well does this operate on the sensation? How smooth is the playback of 1080p MKVs? Also, can I play this on rockplayer for example or diceplayer and connect it up to my TV and watch it over HDMI?
Thanks.
Really? No-one?
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Really? No-one?
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Well I'm not sure if you know this but there are currently no accessories for MHL that can be utilized in the Sensation. Therefore, it can't be connected to a TV yet which explains why nobody is answering your question. Wait for the MHL dongle to come out and I'm sure people will start saying something.
trying to play 720p mkv just on the phone and its dropping alot of frames.
Tried QQ player and rockplayer but still not enough power to decode the movie in software.
May have to convert the file to mp4 to allow the hardware acceleration!
will try over the weekend and let you know
As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
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It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
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But can it play 1080p MKV?
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But can it play 1080p MKV?
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I'll test this and get back to you later. I'm sure I've got a 1080p mkv somewhere on my PC.
I'm pretty sure the Sensation's software isn't optimized. I think when we see some custom ROMs (e.g. Android Revolution by mike1986) we may be able to play MKV's
I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Thanks a lot for testing that out, much appreciated. A lot more useful than the guesstimates made by others in this thread.
My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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your test file is mp4. so rock or stock or any other player works same way.
(using embedded media player module)
if you test MKV/H.264-High/DTS or Flac encoded files, you can find differences.
MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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point is mkv container is not recognised by the sensation default video player, so although the video stream should be played back via hardware decoding it is not.
Most other players that do recognise .mkv files use software decoding, which is fine for AVI (DivX/XviD) or low bitrate h264 files, but at higher bitrates the frames start droping.
Diceplayer is good because after it splits the MKV audio/video streams it recognises that the h264 video stream can be decoded via hardware, this allows much higher bitrates to be played smoother and should consume less battery as the cpu is not thrashing its nuts off.
It may be that in a future software update MKV are supported by the default player, as it is on the SGS2
I wonder if Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod could play 1080p MKV with Diceplayer or similar, on the Sensation. Would be utterly fantastic if they could!
I'd like to see playback on an OC'd sensation/gs2
Hey folks, I was trying to watch a video on my TF101 that I made with my Galaxy S II today, it's a 1920x1080 17Mbit/sec h264 video file. MX player won't play it in hardware. Any way to fix that?
Try Dice Player with the tegra plugin.
Freemake Video Convertor
Easiest converter I've used....take your 1080p file select 720p mkv or what ever other extension and press convert. Might look into the audio settings a bit more tho. (I haven't yet) but the audio comes out not as loud...
Then use MX video...with HW video and SW audio.
Also this might save you time if you try the converter...don't use the Android setting...didn't work for me...wasted 4 hours (slow laptop).
Swyped using my Pinky
I really didn't want to have to transcode the video.
Diceplayer didn't work, even with the plugin. It was a stuttery, frame dropping mess. At least in MX, it plays in super slow motion.
For me, BS Player seems to be the best for playing HD mkv files.
It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.
Did you try playing it in S/W mode? I've had to use it for 1280x720 videos on my TF101 and Captivate with MX.
Sent from my Captivate
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It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.
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Argh, sorry. I really suck at multitasking.
I was just transfering a mkv file over to my Transformer when I wrote that comment. lol
What I meant to say was that BS Player seems best for me to play HD movies (with big file size).